Did you switch to the 16-tooth gearbox sprocket yet? I preferred it even at 650cc but at 865 it’s a necessity. I also did the YSS upgrade kit but removed the damping rods and enlarged the holes from 2mm to 8mm. (There’s some debate about whether or not you need to drill the damper rods but I think it’s essential for proper oil flow.) Right now I’m running a set of shrouded Hagons in the back. They add a note of authenticity but they’re only slightly superior to stock. I’ll replace them eventually with something from Ohlins.
Thanks for the info on the suspension! I haven't decided which way to go yet, ohlins or yss, all the others I know are too expensive, we'll see. I'm still using the stock sprocket and I find it ok for now but I don't do long distances lately, mostly city riding and short trips and I'm enjoying the acceleration.
Well, I just switched to a 16-tooth sprocket and I just have to admit how stupid it was of me riding the 865 for so long with the 15-tooth stock sprocket. It IS a necessity! I'm preparing a video about chain and sprocket change.
I watched a video where they compare a 865 & a 650 with high comp pistons & cam.The 650 upgrade reved out hard & retained the smoothness of gearbox but had to learn to ride properly with the high rev up high & slow down low so have to rev it out in each gear which equals fun. The Big bore 865 has alot more grunt but 1st was harder to find & lost smoothness of the R.E 650 gearbox but the power was there everywhere & this was in Australia & the 865 was built by Reverlry but sure it still had stock throttle bodies. The 650 high Comp pistons & cam bike made a more practical bike but is less powerful especially low down but revs out & is alot cheaper to build.Also Reverlry Cycles has a Powertronic which they have programmed along with Powertronic & copyrighted which extends the rev limiter which increases the fun with either the 865 or 650 High Comp pistons & Cam especially the 650 High Comp pistons & cam.The 650 has a clutch upgrade too but because there's less tourqe the gearbox is still smooth. Rekluse do a clutch up & they also do a more advanced clutch upgrade which has manual & auto function & press button to swap between them which the auto mode would smooth out gear changes & good if in a hurry. If you live Australia Reverlry do throttle bodies upgrade & big valve head which work on both the 650 & 865 but pricey.Add the throttle bodies on the 650 at a later date when afford it. Sure would be great to live in Ausie or have there products in your own country.The standard 865 build after run in is 59-60hp but with Reverlry parts like head,throttle bodies, Powertronic if want to extend rev limiter 65-70hp is possible at a price though.
Thanks for the info. I'm aware of the Revelry cycles but the throttle bodies and big valve head raise the game too much and I'm very far from Australia! For now I'm happy with the bike as it is, but we'll see in the future!
Is it worth the upgrade? Is there vibrations? Did it cost too much etc etc. All I can see is it roars like a lion and runs like a cheetah. The answer to all of the questions, twist the throttle and its all worth it, you will have all your answers. Well done K :)
Did the same mods to my Continental GT: S&S 865 kit, cam, clutch, freer air filter, power commander, 2>1 pipes, etc. But I only got 55 hp on the dyno. Maybe needs more tuning. Upgraded front fork springs only. Replacing the pipes gave a big weight reduction and more performance--but at the cost of noise. Neutral is still hard to find. An extra tooth on the front sprocket is pulled easily. Only nitpick now is that cheap rear brake foot lever--an aftermarket unit is available for the Interceptor but, alas, not for the GT.
Hi, I understand that it runs fine after the mods, right? About the dyno results I think the best way to get a good idea of what really happened is to compare before and after results from the same dyno, did you do that? Then its the tuning and also, very important, cam timing. Did you do the conversion yourself?
@@ksmotoshed7961 Thanks for responding. It runs great. No dead spots or surprises in the fuel mapping. Before and after runs on the same dyno were 42 > 55. I outsourced the bore job to Revelry in AU; a local (US) builder did the rest. I need to return to the shop soon for valve adjustment; my Enfield dealer refused the job when I told him about the S&S cam. Are the clearances the same as stock, do you know? Will ask them about cam timing. Overall, the engine puts out more power than the bike can manage. So I'm inclined to leave things alone and just enjoy it.
@@williamhannas9342 you are welcome. That's great! 42 to 55 hp is a big improvement for this engine, what about torque? The clearances for the S&S cam are the same as stock according to the S&S manual. I agree, the most important thing after all is to enjoy it!!
I thought about it and I asked a few others who did the 865 and they used the S&S pistons as they came with no problems so I decided to put them on without removing any material. The vibration I got with this mod doesn't feel like it's gonna cause any problems but we'll see in the long run. As for the brake pads I'm about to try some new brembo sintered. Thanks for your comment!
@@ksmotoshed7961 glad to hear about the upcoming video. I have two of the S&S 750cc kits and the first thing I noted was the Weisco 83.5mm pistons are heavier than the stock 78mm. In TRUE engineering that may be deliberate, but I doubt it.
Hi, it’s the renthal enduro low, I have a video about it for more details, check it out here: czcams.com/video/ItARqliPPbU/video.htmlsi=uhOcmb4bOc-E-0p3 Thanks for watching!
Honestly I haven’t done the math yet. It should be around 3000€, maybe a bit more. I’m planning to do a video though, with a detailed cost break down for the parts and for the tools I used. I have all the receipts. We’ll see. Thanks for watching!
@@ksmotoshed7961 in the U.S, I spent less than $1,500 including the S&S kit, machine shop charge, a few stock R.E. parts such as the 8 cylinder head bolts, cylinder base gasket etc. This Includes an S&S cam. Counting the out-the-door price of my INT650 in May of 2020 (5,949) I am at less than $7,500.
@@frederickwoods5943 I live in Greece and I got the S&S kit fitted in a new cylinder block from Hitchcock's UK. That's the main difference I think and also the fact that after Brexit we have to pay customs for orders from UK to other parts of Europe. Anyway I'm glad to hear that it doesn't cost a fortune in the US! What did you do for the fuelling?
@@ksmotoshed7961 the increase of 95cc's to 743cc can be more easily handled by the stock fueling than the jump to 863cc; that is another 215cc's over stock. Only the Triumphs can claim 865cc with their longer stroke, the S&S/Weisco pistons loose one cubic centimeter per cylinder (67.8mm stroke vs 68mm on the Triumph). Lots of good information in your videos, anxious to see more.
Did you switch to the 16-tooth gearbox sprocket yet? I preferred it even at 650cc but at 865 it’s a necessity. I also did the YSS upgrade kit but removed the damping rods and enlarged the holes from 2mm to 8mm. (There’s some debate about whether or not you need to drill the damper rods but I think it’s essential for proper oil flow.) Right now I’m running a set of shrouded Hagons in the back. They add a note of authenticity but they’re only slightly superior to stock. I’ll replace them eventually with something from Ohlins.
Thanks for the info on the suspension! I haven't decided which way to go yet, ohlins or yss, all the others I know are too expensive, we'll see.
I'm still using the stock sprocket and I find it ok for now but I don't do long distances lately, mostly city riding and short trips and I'm enjoying the acceleration.
Well, I just switched to a 16-tooth sprocket and I just have to admit how stupid it was of me riding the 865 for so long with the 15-tooth stock sprocket. It IS a necessity!
I'm preparing a video about chain and sprocket change.
This video captures the sound brilliantly , and what a glorious soundtrack this bike has
Yes, I love this sound! Thank you!!
In other words to install the kit you should really have the crank, pistons and rods balanced to minimize or eliminate vibration.
I watched a video where they compare a 865 & a 650 with high comp pistons & cam.The 650 upgrade reved out hard & retained the smoothness of gearbox but had to learn to ride properly with the high rev up high & slow down low so have to rev it out in each gear which equals fun.
The Big bore 865 has alot more grunt but 1st was harder to find & lost smoothness of the R.E 650 gearbox but the power was there everywhere & this was in Australia & the 865 was built by Reverlry but sure it still had stock throttle bodies.
The 650 high Comp pistons & cam bike made a more practical bike but is less powerful especially low down but revs out & is alot cheaper to build.Also Reverlry Cycles has a Powertronic which they have programmed along with Powertronic & copyrighted which extends the rev limiter which increases the fun with either the 865 or 650 High Comp pistons & Cam especially the 650 High Comp pistons & cam.The 650 has a clutch upgrade too but because there's less tourqe the gearbox is still smooth.
Rekluse do a clutch up & they also do a more advanced clutch upgrade which has manual & auto function & press button to swap between them which the auto mode would smooth out gear changes & good if in a hurry.
If you live Australia Reverlry do throttle bodies upgrade & big valve head which work on both the 650 & 865 but pricey.Add
the throttle bodies on the 650 at a later date when afford it.
Sure would be great to live in Ausie or have there products in your own country.The standard 865 build after run in is 59-60hp but with Reverlry parts like head,throttle bodies,
Powertronic if want to extend rev limiter 65-70hp is possible at a price though.
Thanks for the info. I'm aware of the Revelry cycles but the throttle bodies and big valve head raise the game too much and I'm very far from Australia! For now I'm happy with the bike as it is, but we'll see in the future!
@@ksmotoshed7961 Yes I wouldn't bother with that big valve head & throttle bodies very expensive what you have is plenty.
@@ruahinesrider Kia ora bro, hope your enjoying your trident 660.👍
@@dev8546 Chur bro it's going really good.
I would buy a RE just for how good they sound👍.
Is it worth the upgrade? Is there vibrations? Did it cost too much etc etc. All I can see is it roars like a lion and runs like a cheetah. The answer to all of the questions, twist the throttle and its all worth it, you will have all your answers. Well done K :)
I can't agree more! It all comes down to that in the end, if it makes you smile with every twist of the throttle!! Thank you @Dev!!
Did the same mods to my Continental GT: S&S 865 kit, cam, clutch, freer air filter, power commander, 2>1 pipes, etc. But I only got 55 hp on the dyno. Maybe needs more tuning. Upgraded front fork springs only. Replacing the pipes gave a big weight reduction and more performance--but at the cost of noise. Neutral is still hard to find. An extra tooth on the front sprocket is pulled easily. Only nitpick now is that cheap rear brake foot lever--an aftermarket unit is available for the Interceptor but, alas, not for the GT.
Hi, I understand that it runs fine after the mods, right? About the dyno results I think the best way to get a good idea of what really happened is to compare before and after results from the same dyno, did you do that? Then its the tuning and also, very important, cam timing. Did you do the conversion yourself?
@@ksmotoshed7961 Thanks for responding. It runs great. No dead spots or surprises in the fuel mapping. Before and after runs on the same dyno were 42 > 55. I outsourced the bore job to Revelry in AU; a local (US) builder did the rest. I need to return to the shop soon for valve adjustment; my Enfield dealer refused the job when I told him about the S&S cam. Are the clearances the same as stock, do you know? Will ask them about cam timing. Overall, the engine puts out more power than the bike can manage. So I'm inclined to leave things alone and just enjoy it.
@@williamhannas9342 you are welcome. That's great! 42 to 55 hp is a big improvement for this engine, what about torque? The clearances for the S&S cam are the same as stock according to the S&S manual. I agree, the most important thing after all is to enjoy it!!
Very clever man 👏 can tell that it really wants to Go😊 i am getting the Super meteor very soon Here in New Zealand
Thank you! I hope you get your new bike soon!
Well anytime you overbore you should try to remove material to make piston weight equal to stock pistons.Better brake pads will help much .
I thought about it and I asked a few others who did the 865 and they used the S&S pistons as they came with no problems so I decided to put them on without removing any material. The vibration I got with this mod doesn't feel like it's gonna cause any problems but we'll see in the long run.
As for the brake pads I'm about to try some new brembo sintered. Thanks for your comment!
Nice! My Dream!
Thank you!!
Great video and great job with the 865 kit. My question is did you keep the stinger 2 into 1 exhaust?
It does sound good.
Take care and ride safe.
Thank you! Yes, I did keep the stinger. It works great, no problems whatsoever! Cheers! Ride safe!
I guess that with the big bore kit you will get more vibration in particular because the balancer is designed for the 650 setup
Yes, I believe so and the S&S pistons are heavier that the stock. I'm preparing a short video with S&S vs stock piston weight comparison!
@@ksmotoshed7961 glad to hear about the upcoming video. I have two of the S&S 750cc kits and the first thing I noted was the Weisco 83.5mm pistons are heavier than the stock 78mm. In TRUE engineering that may be deliberate, but I doubt it.
Nice!
Thank you!
can you tell me the model of your renthal handlebar= Thanks
Hi, it’s the renthal enduro low, I have a video about it for more details, check it out here: czcams.com/video/ItARqliPPbU/video.htmlsi=uhOcmb4bOc-E-0p3
Thanks for watching!
Top speed?
please can you do 0-100 speed test .
Sure, it’s on my list. I’ll do it!
easy,it'll be slow.
I am sure the fuel efficiency has gone down, any idea about how much?
Hi, I give some fuel consumption info in this video czcams.com/video/jLdDsgXpr2g/video.htmlsi=lqJ8KlhK841EJh3c
Thanks for watching!
It's a monster now, bro, compared to stock
Yeah! It’s a beast! Thanks for watching!
Next, am thinking of turbo's, tell me, will it work?
@@kamalhassan7628 in theory it would work, but there are a lot of implications and I wouldn't do it to this bike anyway, even if I knew how to do it!
@@ksmotoshed7961 would you please do a acceleration video? like how much time does it take to do 100km/h from 0.
@@kamalhassan7628 sure! It’s in my list. I’ll do it soon!
Did you run top speed test ?
Not yet, but it feels that it will easily hit the rev limiter in 6th gear with standard gearing. So I suppose this will be the limiting factor.
What indicators are you using?
Check out this video, there is a link in the description. czcams.com/video/klaZVOnUU30/video.html
How much hp did it increase
It was 42hp stock and now it's at 58hp.
Are you telling me there is more vibration with a bigger engine? !!!!! 😮😅
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Hi whats the effect on fuel economy? Normally it gives around 23-25 km per litre. How much drop after big bore upgrade?
Hi, its around 20 km/l now. I'm planning to include detailed info about the 865 fuel consumption in one of my next videos! Thanks for watching!
Total investment cost..? Thank you 😎
Honestly I haven’t done the math yet. It should be around 3000€, maybe a bit more. I’m planning to do a video though, with a detailed cost break down for the parts and for the tools I used. I have all the receipts. We’ll see. Thanks for watching!
@@ksmotoshed7961 in the U.S, I spent less than $1,500 including the S&S kit, machine shop charge, a few stock R.E. parts such as the 8 cylinder head bolts, cylinder base gasket etc. This Includes an S&S cam. Counting the out-the-door price of my INT650 in May of 2020 (5,949) I am at less than $7,500.
@@frederickwoods5943 I live in Greece and I got the S&S kit fitted in a new cylinder block from Hitchcock's UK. That's the main difference I think and also the fact that after Brexit we have to pay customs for orders from UK to other parts of Europe. Anyway I'm glad to hear that it doesn't cost a fortune in the US! What did you do for the fuelling?
@@ksmotoshed7961 the increase of 95cc's to 743cc can be more easily handled by the stock fueling than the jump to 863cc; that is another 215cc's over stock. Only the Triumphs can claim 865cc with their longer stroke, the S&S/Weisco pistons loose one cubic centimeter per cylinder (67.8mm stroke vs 68mm on the Triumph). Lots of good information in your videos, anxious to see more.
@@frederickwoods5943 thank you! I appreciate the info you share as well!
so you're trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. these R E. bikes are cheap bland underpowered waste of space.
Absolute rubbish. The Interceptor is a great fun bike to ride... I feel you are in a minority group fella