A bunch of Geth Primes dropping out of the sky and mopping up the Reapers, then turning around to say they're Allied Assistance. I wish there was a scene of that.
Multiplayer, all geth squad.... so much fun. For all that it was annoying that you had to do it, the multiplayer was actually fun. All Krogan squad just headbutting everything to death....
2 Years Later but I still feel the same. Considering we've seen how a Geth drop looks like. So just imagining them fall in the middle of combat and start attacking Reapers. Lmao.. would have been bad ass if there was a battle where your war assets had their usefulness notice aside from dialogues and emails.
I wish we were able to physically see the effects of all the war assets, or at least the major additions, towards the end of the game. Like imagine in the final assault on Earth’s reapers, we get a short cutscene of Quarian Marines using Guerilla and ambush tactics to trap and kill squads of reaper troops. Or having a marching gunline of Geth mow down enemies as Primes drop on top of them. Or a unique cutscene where we see Quarian soldiers modified with Geth Software and Hardware, moving and fighting like a Spartan from the Halo Universe
the "allied assistance" message always makes me smile cause the Geth act so innocent. Geth have no understanding of grudges, hate, or fear, now that they have been formally accepted as members of the galaxy, they think everything is cool and they are so eager to help their new allies, meanwhile everyone is still terrified of them.
It has been mentioned in the game that organics fear their creations (synth) will eliminate their creators after they realize their creators flaws (inefficient thinking, energy consumption, etc)
@@anders8461 And that is where mass effect answer saying something quite logical, if you creat fully evolved AIs they are still innocent AIs.. they do not have have pitty, remorse or fear, but that also means they don't have hatred, disgust, or feelings of superiority. Geth were simply put on war because they asked if they had souls, and to that I answer if you are intelligent enough to question your own actions or your own existence, of course you have one. Organic and synthetic life arent meant to be eternal enemies. The get were simply too innocent, like a child asking something to it´s father, which is also heartbreaking when LEGION show us that some get were even willing to sacrifice themselves to save some quarians. They never wanted a war, they wanted to live together since the beginning.
And for those who wanna mention the story that JAVIK says about the zha´til are NOT similar, he clearly says that people used enhancements that corrupt their entire bodies making them monsters. So no, he was wrong, geth were learning AI´s with no trace of organic life since the beginning, they weren't corrupted nor transformed physically, they simply evolved in intelligence by the ways the quarians allowed them. Lets not confuse monster cyborgs with innocent child-like AI.
@@farenhaid13421 also, those words were from Javik, and came after a war between the Jha'til and the Prothean empire. Even if they were being entirely honest and not propagandizing the situation, the zha'til were also under the influence of Reapers. These circumstances aren't as clear-cut as they said, because there's always extenuating circumstances.
@@TheDancerMacabre no, synthesis is what the catalyst wanted, not what the reapers wanted. The reapers were programmed to destroy and record all organic life, synthesis was only possible because the Reapers had failed in their function. The Catalyst controlled the Reapers, but did not reveal it's full plans and ideas to them. Synthesis pacifies the Reapers just as much as control because it results in them being reprogrammed to no longer be hostile. The difference is that Control has them reprogrammed and forcibly controlled by Shepherd, who replaces the Catalyst, but Synthesis has the Reapers self-reprogram due to all the new information presented to them and their old programming and function being rendered obsolete.
I did not buy Javik's dlc, and I am happy. I don't trust him. Javik would throw half my allies away because that's not the way they did things in his cycle.
@@arbiterskiss6692 Yeah, Legendary Edition is my first playthrough with Javik, and my god he is an asshole. I still keep him with me though. He's a funny asshole. Don't like how he bashes Tali though.
She comes to love Joker especially when we pick Synthesis ending, which is the best ending for me. But for Legion, she can relater herself to him and during Legion's time on board Normandy, EDI is the only other synthetic and the only other person who would talk to Legion aside Shepard and Tali. Losing Legion is like losing a friend from the same race.
I like to think that when Tali goes back to Rannoch after the war, the geth help her build a new home. Because of her friendship with Legion, opposition to the war, and her service with Shepard, she's seen as a hero by the geth.
Jarvik is a product from another time: "during his cycle" as he so often says like the boomer he is, the prothean empire was a singular entity. The protheans didn't do diplomacy, just conquest and submission, any other civilization was either subservient or a threat to be delt with. His statement is of course wrong, but it was true for him.
Well... Against other type of war... Javik maybe can be wrong. But not in the war with Reapers. Javik is correct through and through when it comes to the war with reapers especially when we never know what does Crucible can do.
Javik does come from a late-war stage. If we compare the reaper war with World War 2, nearing the end of the war, say, Germany had plenty of people to draft into its armies with them scraping the barrel - issue was, due to the destroyed war industry they didn't have the guns to arm them all. The Reapers would be doing the same thing, destroying the Prothean industrial capacity. That's why he's so focused on plentiful guns I think. In the meantime, at the start of WW2, most countries were struggling with *manpower*, everyone's industries had the capacity to overproduce guns, but with laxer conscription and less mobilisation, didn't have the people to give those guns. Diplomacy can provide those people.
It's all in the dimensions! The Tardis is an example of it to the extreme but I think that it must have started out looking like a normal ship but probably had the outside changed so the Doctor could move freely without drawing too much attention
@@martinmcgeejr3729 No, the Tardis, and it's sister ships produced by the timelords, have always been outside of the regular dimensions. That's just how advanced the timelords are.
man i wish legion didn't die in me2 so i could have the peace for them, i had everyone alive but him QQ and my last save was hours away from that mission...
Legion didn't really die. His program separated and install themselves into Geth collective. So in a sense: Legion lives on: as all Geth now has Legion in them.
And in the control ending Shepard becomes a deity-like entity. In the synthesis he becomes the procreator of the new DNA that unified synthetics and organics and also sacrifices his life for that to happen. In both cases he may be considered saint, so Garrus is right.
Problem is synthetics (Geth ) and organics wants you to kill Reapers. You are a soldier and your orders are stopping and destroying reapers. Not joining them. Two endings in here is about your choice. Destroy ending is what galaxy wants from you.
Kaidan: That was quite the negotiation you pulled off." Me: Yeah threatening an entire species with extinction if they don't back the f*** off and stand down is one hell of a negotiating tool.
i believe they actually secretly believe Shepard. It's just that they need to calm their people and restore their faith in Council's leadership, so they thought they need to publicly discredit Shepard... while secretly try to prepare (eg: Turians did develop Thanix). Politics are funny.
@@gendoruwo6322 also there's the part in Andromeda where the council is mentioned to "privately beginning to wonder" whether Shepard was actually right.
I'll give you that troop transport, but ammo? The reapers? And I'd suspect the reapers wouldn't worry about repairs, they themselves would self repair easy enough, and as their armies are all stolen from the enemy I dunno about rearming.
You have to remember that as cool as MassEffect is, it's not SupCom. Even the reapers dont have mater-energy-mater transformations nailed down to be functionaly cost free. They need refined ores and elements if they want to rebuild parts, then have those parts properly formed. Fuel is another major supply line concern. Reapers do have a very self-sustaining army, but they do need atleast a FEW things to be delivered around.
Not to mention the primary Reaper weapon: it fires molten metal. Unless they're cannibalizing themselves (which even with sheer Reaper size wouldn't last *that* long), they're going to need resupplying of whatever raw materials/metal they use. Also, all of the arms and non-organic components of shock-troops...
primarily troop transportation: eg: collect reaperized batarians (cannibals), collect reaperized Asari (Banshees), etc, need to relocate them as needed.
"Reaper supply lines"?! Da Fuck? ME3 got many things wrong but trying to act like the reapers were anything like an actual military and not a godlike machine apocalypse race that would wipe out planets in a matter of minutes will always be the dumbest. Sovereign cruised through an entire fleet no problem but a massive horde of them can be held back over a long period of time? Bullshit.
They probably meant the indoctrinated/converted force of reaper cannon fodder that at the time was doing most of the fighting on systems where the reaper presence wasn't strong. As strong as the reapers are, they're not invincible, and Sovereign class reaper vessels are at their most vulnerable due to their mass when they land on a planet or other structure with a gravity field such as the Citadel.
A bunch of Geth Primes dropping out of the sky and mopping up the Reapers, then turning around to say they're Allied Assistance. I wish there was a scene of that.
Multiplayer, all geth squad.... so much fun.
For all that it was annoying that you had to do it, the multiplayer was actually fun.
All Krogan squad just headbutting everything to death....
@@BlackLiger788
All those headbutting is essentially saying the Reapers to shut it, because they're back in business and it's staying.
2 Years Later but I still feel the same. Considering we've seen how a Geth drop looks like. So just imagining them fall in the middle of combat and start attacking Reapers. Lmao.. would have been bad ass if there was a battle where your war assets had their usefulness notice aside from dialogues and emails.
Another geth crewmate would have been great
I wish we were able to physically see the effects of all the war assets, or at least the major additions, towards the end of the game. Like imagine in the final assault on Earth’s reapers, we get a short cutscene of Quarian Marines using Guerilla and ambush tactics to trap and kill squads of reaper troops. Or having a marching gunline of Geth mow down enemies as Primes drop on top of them. Or a unique cutscene where we see Quarian soldiers modified with Geth Software and Hardware, moving and fighting like a Spartan from the Halo Universe
the "allied assistance" message always makes me smile cause the Geth act so innocent. Geth have no understanding of grudges, hate, or fear, now that they have been formally accepted as members of the galaxy, they think everything is cool and they are so eager to help their new allies, meanwhile everyone is still terrified of them.
It has been mentioned in the game that organics fear their creations (synth) will eliminate their creators after they realize their creators flaws (inefficient thinking, energy consumption, etc)
@@anders8461 in Mass effect I'm sure they could help fix those flaws.
@@anders8461 And that is where mass effect answer saying something quite logical, if you creat fully evolved AIs they are still innocent AIs.. they do not have have pitty, remorse or fear, but that also means they don't have hatred, disgust, or feelings of superiority. Geth were simply put on war because they asked if they had souls, and to that I answer if you are intelligent enough to question your own actions or your own existence, of course you have one. Organic and synthetic life arent meant to be eternal enemies. The get were simply too innocent, like a child asking something to it´s father, which is also heartbreaking when LEGION show us that some get were even willing to sacrifice themselves to save some quarians. They never wanted a war, they wanted to live together since the beginning.
And for those who wanna mention the story that JAVIK says about the zha´til are NOT similar, he clearly says that people used enhancements that corrupt their entire bodies making them monsters. So no, he was wrong, geth were learning AI´s with no trace of organic life since the beginning, they weren't corrupted nor transformed physically, they simply evolved in intelligence by the ways the quarians allowed them.
Lets not confuse monster cyborgs with innocent child-like AI.
@@farenhaid13421 also, those words were from Javik, and came after a war between the Jha'til and the Prothean empire. Even if they were being entirely honest and not propagandizing the situation, the zha'til were also under the influence of Reapers. These circumstances aren't as clear-cut as they said, because there's always extenuating circumstances.
Pacify the Reapers and we'll make you a Saint, I'll hold you to that Garrus
Shepard: *ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL! NOW, HARBINGER, THIS WILL HURT YOU... A LOT!*
synthesis
Synthesis is exactly what the reapers wanted...
control is what pacifies the reapers
@@TheDancerMacabre no, synthesis is what the catalyst wanted, not what the reapers wanted. The reapers were programmed to destroy and record all organic life, synthesis was only possible because the Reapers had failed in their function. The Catalyst controlled the Reapers, but did not reveal it's full plans and ideas to them. Synthesis pacifies the Reapers just as much as control because it results in them being reprogrammed to no longer be hostile. The difference is that Control has them reprogrammed and forcibly controlled by Shepherd, who replaces the Catalyst, but Synthesis has the Reapers self-reprogram due to all the new information presented to them and their old programming and function being rendered obsolete.
Javik: It is difficult to trust a species that hides behind masks
Me: Javik they will literally die without them
I did not buy Javik's dlc, and I am happy. I don't trust him. Javik would throw half my allies away because that's not the way they did things in his cycle.
@@arbiterskiss6692 you misspelled “out the airlock”
@@arbiterskiss6692 Yeah, Legendary Edition is my first playthrough with Javik, and my god he is an asshole.
I still keep him with me though. He's a funny asshole.
Don't like how he bashes Tali though.
@@arbiterskiss6692 I just wish there was a dialogue option to throw it back in his face and ask “where did Prothian tactics get them?”
@@christopherfleetwood5252 Ouch. That’s colder then the airlock.
EDI sounded really sad when she was talking about legion :'(
L1T1T she have a crush on legion
Because she can relate to Legion, as a synthetic.
She comes to love Joker especially when we pick Synthesis ending, which is the best ending for me. But for Legion, she can relater herself to him and during Legion's time on board Normandy, EDI is the only other synthetic and the only other person who would talk to Legion aside Shepard and Tali. Losing Legion is like losing a friend from the same race.
After that, Quarians started looking for new greeting, cause Kelah se'lai was little misplaced (meaning: By the home world I hope to see one day).
"By the homeworld I am grateful to walk its soil once more" sounds like a good one
@@floricel_112 Maybe the Geth could answer something along the likes of "By Legion, whose sacrifice made it so"
I like to think that when Tali goes back to Rannoch after the war, the geth help her build a new home. Because of her friendship with Legion, opposition to the war, and her service with Shepard, she's seen as a hero by the geth.
"Diplomacy doesn't win wars"
Actually it does.It gains you allies who will help you when you need.
Jarvik is a product from another time: "during his cycle" as he so often says like the boomer he is, the prothean empire was a singular entity. The protheans didn't do diplomacy, just conquest and submission, any other civilization was either subservient or a threat to be delt with.
His statement is of course wrong, but it was true for him.
Well... Against other type of war... Javik maybe can be wrong. But not in the war with Reapers. Javik is correct through and through when it comes to the war with reapers especially when we never know what does Crucible can do.
Javik does come from a late-war stage. If we compare the reaper war with World War 2, nearing the end of the war, say, Germany had plenty of people to draft into its armies with them scraping the barrel - issue was, due to the destroyed war industry they didn't have the guns to arm them all. The Reapers would be doing the same thing, destroying the Prothean industrial capacity. That's why he's so focused on plentiful guns I think.
In the meantime, at the start of WW2, most countries were struggling with *manpower*, everyone's industries had the capacity to overproduce guns, but with laxer conscription and less mobilisation, didn't have the people to give those guns. Diplomacy can provide those people.
"diplomacy doesn't win wars"
_Renegade and paragon Shepard says otherwise_
to legion he will be missed
Ah. Traynor. Inquisitor.
The geth pulse rifle was always my favorite
The Normandy is like the Tardis: it's bigger on the inside...
It's all in the dimensions! The Tardis is an example of it to the extreme but I think that it must have started out looking like a normal ship but probably had the outside changed so the Doctor could move freely without drawing too much attention
@@martinmcgeejr3729 No, the Tardis, and it's sister ships produced by the timelords, have always been outside of the regular dimensions. That's just how advanced the timelords are.
7:08 by far my favorite email form the game
11:19 "We'll bang. Ok?"
How about I get some steak sent up?
man i wish legion didn't die in me2 so i could have the peace for them, i had everyone alive but him QQ and my last save was hours away from that mission...
we'll bang.....okay
Legion didn't really die. His program separated and install themselves into Geth collective. So in a sense: Legion lives on: as all Geth now has Legion in them.
@@gendoruwo6322 he meant in the suicide mission
7:40 -7:56 = control/syntesis ending.
And in the control ending Shepard becomes a deity-like entity. In the synthesis he becomes the procreator of the new DNA that unified synthetics and organics and also sacrifices his life for that to happen.
In both cases he may be considered saint, so Garrus is right.
Problem is synthetics (Geth ) and organics wants you to kill Reapers. You are a soldier and your orders are stopping and destroying reapers. Not joining them. Two endings in here is about your choice. Destroy ending is what galaxy wants from you.
@@ladyselin35 since when has Shepard followed orders they didn't want to?
5:25 Javik: "It is difficult to trust a species that hides behind masks."
LoL i guess hes talking about us 😂
Is it just me or I don't remember Diana Allers having *THAT* hot of a body.
Kaidan: That was quite the negotiation you pulled off."
Me: Yeah threatening an entire species with extinction if they don't back the f*** off and stand down is one hell of a negotiating tool.
i wonder if the council listened to shepard at the start of mass effect 1 and prepped would this turn out differently
i believe they actually secretly believe Shepard.
It's just that they need to calm their people and restore their faith in Council's leadership, so they thought they need to publicly discredit Shepard... while secretly try to prepare (eg: Turians did develop Thanix).
Politics are funny.
@@gendoruwo6322 Most likely to prevent public from panicking.
@RubiiX if you remember correctly turians and humans had limitations on quantity of drednoughts, if they wanted to prepare the could
@@gendoruwo6322 also there's the part in Andromeda where the council is mentioned to "privately beginning to wonder" whether Shepard was actually right.
@@user-fv3io4yb9s on the ratio of dreadnoughts. They could build more, just turians needed to build more than humans.
Hey @Denny Ayard , can i use an excerpt from this video in a video piece i am gonna make(i'll credit you,of course)?
Could Kaidan usurp command of the Normandy from Shepard if he wanted to? I'm curious since they are both Spectres and Kaidan outranks Shepard?
Sad that we don't want to leave Tali behind so we choose the destroy option.
But instead she left us
Why do the reapers need/have supply lines
troop transportation, ammunition, supplies to repair/re-arm.
I'll give you that troop transport, but ammo? The reapers? And I'd suspect the reapers wouldn't worry about repairs, they themselves would self repair easy enough, and as their armies are all stolen from the enemy I dunno about rearming.
You have to remember that as cool as MassEffect is, it's not SupCom. Even the reapers dont have
mater-energy-mater transformations nailed down to be functionaly cost free. They need refined ores and elements if they want to rebuild parts, then have those parts properly formed. Fuel is another major supply line concern.
Reapers do have a very self-sustaining army, but they do need atleast a FEW things to be delivered around.
Not to mention the primary Reaper weapon: it fires molten metal. Unless they're cannibalizing themselves (which even with sheer Reaper size wouldn't last *that* long), they're going to need resupplying of whatever raw materials/metal they use. Also, all of the arms and non-organic components of shock-troops...
primarily troop transportation: eg: collect reaperized batarians (cannibals), collect reaperized Asari (Banshees), etc, need to relocate them as needed.
One of these days i will find a way to make peace between the quarians and the geth
There is a peace scoreboard that you need to have at least five points
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"Reaper supply lines"?! Da Fuck? ME3 got many things wrong but trying to act like the reapers were anything like an actual military and not a godlike machine apocalypse race that would wipe out planets in a matter of minutes will always be the dumbest. Sovereign cruised through an entire fleet no problem but a massive horde of them can be held back over a long period of time? Bullshit.
They probably meant the indoctrinated/converted force of reaper cannon fodder that at the time was doing most of the fighting on systems where the reaper presence wasn't strong. As strong as the reapers are, they're not invincible, and Sovereign class reaper vessels are at their most vulnerable due to their mass when they land on a planet or other structure with a gravity field such as the Citadel.
You faked the genophage cure, didn’t you? This playthrough doesn’t count.