The Holberg Debate 2017: "Propaganda, Facts and Fake News" with J. Assange, J. Pilger & J. Heawood

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  • At the 2017 Holberg Debate, Julian Assange, John Pilger and Jonathan Heawood discussed the presence of propaganda in news and social media, and its democratic implications.
    About 00:11:00 Julian Assange
    About 00:56:00 Questions for Julian Assange
    About 01:19:00 Jonathan Heawood
    About 01:43:00 John Pilger
    About 02:17:11 Las Q&A Session
    Is there an escalating war of information that is threatening our democracy and our ability to make informed decisions?
    The event took place at the University of Bergen, Norway, on December 2nd, 2017.
    About the speakers:
    Julian Assange joins the panel via videolink. Assange is an award-winning journalist and the founder and editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks. He is also a programmer, cryptographer, author and activist. Founded in 2006, WikiLeaks has published millions of leaked documents and several videos. This includes logs that relate to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the controversial “Collateral Murder” video from Iraq, U.S. diplomatic cables, and election campaign related e-mails from the Democratic National Committee and from Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, John Podesta.
    Jonathan Heawood is the CEO and founder of IMPRESS, the only press regulator to be recognised as independent and effective under the Royal Charter in the United Kingdom. He has previously worked as a journalist and human rights campaigner, and he is a former director of English PEN. Heawood has written on free speech and regulation for various publications, including The Encyclopedia of Twentieth-Century Fiction, Critical Quarterly, Journal of Media Law, Ethical Space and Communications Law.
    John Pilger is an Australian journalist, author and documentary film-maker. Pilger has covered military, political and cultural conflicts around the world for more than five decades, and his criticism of American, Australian and British foreign policy is strongly reflected his documentaries and writings. He worked at the Daily Mirror from 1963 to 1986 and wrote a regular column for the New Statesman magazine from 1991 to 2014. Pilger has won numerous awards as a journalist and film-maker, and he is one of only two people to win British journalism’s highest award twice.
    The Holberg Debate 2017 is a collaboration between the Holberg Prize, the Fritt Ord Foundation and Norwegian PEN (Western Norway).
    www.holbergprisen.no/en/holber...

Komentáře • 539

  • @HolbergPrize
    @HolbergPrize  Před 7 měsíci +3

    Don't miss the 2023 Holberg Debate on December 2. Anil Seth, Tanya Luhrmann and Rupert Sheldrake will debate the question: "Does Consciousness Extend Beyod Brains?" czcams.com/video/ofSUaZOW9h8/video.html
    Feel free to follow the event page on Facebook: facebook.com/events/315569814476878
    More information on the Holberg Prize webpage: holbergprize.org/en/2023-holberg-debate-does-consciousness-extend-beyond-brains

  • @banjocracy
    @banjocracy Před 6 lety +108

    John Pilger, please live for ever. We need you.

    • @wardropper
      @wardropper Před 5 lety +24

      Assange too, for that matter.

    • @rebelxapologist4505
      @rebelxapologist4505 Před 5 lety +17

      I wouldn't wish eternal life here on Earth to our heroes for anything. How about we become the heroes we respect? Carry their light and thus carrying on their mission. We are John Pilger, we are Julian Assange, we are WikiLeaks...we ARE THE LIGHT! :)

    • @michaelwsperry
      @michaelwsperry Před 3 lety +2

      JP supports brutal dictatorships around the world.

    • @anastar37
      @anastar37 Před 2 lety +5

      Julian Assange, please live forever too!

    • @anastar37
      @anastar37 Před 2 lety +8

      @@rebelxapologist4505 It's just an expression of how much we need intelligent analytical voices like this.

  • @olivierma2691
    @olivierma2691 Před 3 lety +49

    Heart breaking to see Julian Assange coughing every ten seconds...

    • @DJ-Brownie-UK
      @DJ-Brownie-UK Před rokem

      what is this "signal" of fake coughing that I see a lot of the time , it really bugs me

    • @freemenofengland2880
      @freemenofengland2880 Před rokem +4

      That was in the good old days before he was sent to a solitary confinement block of a maximum security prison without trial.

    • @ghandb
      @ghandb Před rokem +5

      @@DJ-Brownie-UK What is the signal of fake coughing that really bugs you? He's clearly deteriorated from his imprisonment in the Ecuadorean Embassy up to that point combined with the stress of knowing the US was conspiring to destroy him. He stutters, loses his train of thought, and you can hear him struggling to suppress the cough while he's speaking. If what you're saying is he pulling an act, he should get an Oscar for the rest of his life for juggling all those fake patterns while speaking on a topic.
      If you're saying he's bullshitting, I find that incredible given that he's not been caught lying publicly at any time as far as I understand it. He's the gold standard for honesty adrift in a vast sea of bullshit and lies.

    • @DJ-Brownie-UK
      @DJ-Brownie-UK Před rokem

      @@ghandb Go back to sleep Numb Nuts. Julian Paul Hawkins as he was born before he became Ass-ANGE(L) is an Actor who performs various dramatic scenes in front of cameras to keep desert heads like yours engaged and entertained. Just in case you also didn't know Wrestling is fake too. sorry to burst your bubble but hey there's always time to grow up

    • @Rotwold
      @Rotwold Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@ghandb his behaviour reminded me of myself when I was depressed and had many issues stemming from PTSD.
      I started having tics (breathing pattern, coughing, eye movement), trouble forming sentences, losing focus every 10 seconds etc. Thankfully I've been able to train most of it away after treatment. I hope Julian will one day be able to focus on living a healthy life without fear.

  • @mkmason2002
    @mkmason2002 Před 5 lety +50

    I pray for Julian as he has imprisoned himself for the sake of truth. What a hero!

  • @deborrastrom8559
    @deborrastrom8559 Před rokem +53

    Watching this In 2022, How clearly we can see Assange today even more. What a courageous human being. Prayers & blessings to him & his family & wife & children & supporters.

    • @andyboa8107
      @andyboa8107 Před 8 měsíci

      He did for Putin more than any westerner, glory to him, glory to Russia!

    • @mariq9918
      @mariq9918 Před 5 měsíci

      Watching Nov 2023. It is obscene to witness the UK Authotities refusal to adhere to the UN Arbitary Detention convention sees Julian still incarcerated in Belmarsh Prison, solitary, without charge...pending Court decision on his appeal against extradition to US for trial on espionage charges.
      Thorough exposure of the flight from Rule of Law by UK Authorities combined with a lethal misinformation campaign dpearheaded by MSM in UK US Sweden Australia NZ ×+
      Popular uprising activism working for Julian's freedom

  • @johnsnowman6170
    @johnsnowman6170 Před 5 lety +65

    John Pilger. A Reporter with integrity and conscience.

  • @mdreifuerst
    @mdreifuerst Před 6 lety +49

    Julian is an amazing person who we feel is very truthful and whats to help us all with the truth

  • @carmelroach730
    @carmelroach730 Před 5 lety +24

    I feel so sorry for this brave man how can the uk say there for human rights when they treat a man like this because he tells the truth they dont want there lies of what they do in our name

  • @Derbauer
    @Derbauer Před 5 lety +29

    Julian, continue to shine light on the lust for power

  • @massoud1325
    @massoud1325 Před 6 lety +27

    He is the best in this century, He is trying to save us against criminals

    • @eveelsbury8341
      @eveelsbury8341 Před rokem

      massoud... i dont understand extactly what he is saving us from. I don't understand how Assange fits in the picture. please help. I hear the news bashing him on one chanel and praising him on the other channel but no one says what is it he did that was so good or bad... Can you explain?

  • @diannacokinos5499
    @diannacokinos5499 Před 6 lety +20

    Most people don't want the truth...Sad... Julian a true Hero ,Thank you from American

    • @eveelsbury8341
      @eveelsbury8341 Před rokem

      Diana... I dont understand why Julian Assange is a hero or a criminal. What did he do? What did Assange say that is substantive... everyone seems to speak in generalities... and I have no idea what opinion to form. Thanks for letting me know..

    • @diannacokinos5499
      @diannacokinos5499 Před rokem

      @@eveelsbury8341 maybe not hero in one since but a truth teller yes. We were being lied to in the USA about people being killed, when Obama was in office . But I guess to some he is bad for letting us know. Also telling us about Hillary Clinton and DNC. But the bad and good players are so blended together in the USA. I think JA should not have any charges in the USA and let he go on with his life.I don't think him and I are of like mind in politics not sure. Time to thank him for his standing up for truth and let him live his life now as a free man.

  • @darryllcampbell3342
    @darryllcampbell3342 Před 6 lety +38

    I wish more people would open their eyes to this.

  • @Behave96743
    @Behave96743 Před rokem +48

    As I listen to Asange, I feel like turning off all forms of media and embrace my early morning walks, my hard bound books and my fifty year collection of vinyl for entertainment, and personal survival. Time to let go of all electronic devices and grow my magic garden into a community space for conversation with neighbors and friends. Thank you for this new awareness and enlightenment.

    • @DSimonJones
      @DSimonJones Před rokem +4

      When war comes to your door you will look back on this comment and weep

    • @christinefischer2137
      @christinefischer2137 Před rokem +3

      @@DSimonJones he still is correct. or what other alternative do you propose?

    • @ArundoTrad
      @ArundoTrad Před rokem +2

      The problem is you cannot let your devices go or you will cease to be able to function in any meaningful sense

    • @christinefischer2137
      @christinefischer2137 Před rokem +3

      @@ArundoTrad that's a bit exaggerated. There is plenty of meaningful existence without electronic devices. What exactly is there to lose?

    • @ArundoTrad
      @ArundoTrad Před rokem +2

      @Christine Fischer access to your bank account and every other service. A bit naive to think it will go any other way.

  • @audeo313
    @audeo313 Před rokem +18

    Thank god people with integrity and conscience still exists

    • @ttrons2
      @ttrons2 Před 8 měsíci

      Look what they have done to him. All illegal but a warning to other real journalists. I don't even know why we bother with elections.

  • @stephencyang6628
    @stephencyang6628 Před 6 lety +37

    Well done! Julian and Pilger, my favourite journalist-truth-teller and writer; now commentator.

  • @johnnewhouse1235
    @johnnewhouse1235 Před 6 lety +43

    Greatest respect to two titans of our times: John Pilger and Julian Assange. You dare to speak truth to power. John Pilger is a man of the greatest integrity and warm humanity. John has always courageously and outspokenly been a voice for the neglected, repressed and mistreated. John, you are truly a voice, an outstanding voice in our world and times for compassion, wisdom and the warmest embrace of what it is to be human at our best. Thankyou to all three speakers and the organizers.

  • @andymaka6280
    @andymaka6280 Před 5 lety +19

    Good piece here. Must watch again. The Aussies should be proud.

  • @minininjalove4205
    @minininjalove4205 Před 2 lety +14

    Love you Julian. I miss you. This world is agonizing without you.

  • @toomuchadvice
    @toomuchadvice Před rokem +65

    Watching this again now 5 years later brings shivers to my spine as to how eerily accurate John Pilger's vision of how things would progress into the current Ukrainian conflict manipulated by by NATO propaganda.

  • @OMGAnotherday
    @OMGAnotherday Před 5 lety +28

    I feel physically sick listening to how we have been manipulated and all the deaths!

  • @kinky_Z
    @kinky_Z Před 6 lety +52

    Wow. John Pilger's speeches ALWAYS bring me to tears. Soooo good!

  • @oreilly1237878
    @oreilly1237878 Před 4 lety +14

    The main stream media is the metaphorical equivalent of a sewer running directly running through your living room.

  • @GreenChic8
    @GreenChic8 Před 6 lety +48

    am i the only concerned about his cough + health? Love you Assange,

    • @BogushCh
      @BogushCh Před 6 lety +2

      Are you saying you're a doctor and capable of diagnosis by watching someone through a monitor screen?

    • @robertdavidson4418
      @robertdavidson4418 Před 6 lety +1

      + Peter Martyn I'm not a doctor, but I came to the same conclusion; if he'd been very ill I doubt he would have attended the conference; it's just observation! To assume more is to be a bit of a drama queen o dingbat.

    • @diannacokinos5499
      @diannacokinos5499 Před 6 lety +3

      Praying for his health and freedom and emotions....

    • @robertdavidson4418
      @robertdavidson4418 Před 6 lety

      + Dianna Cokinos. Yup, that's gonna solve all his problems for him - 'laudable motives, but little grasp of reality!

    • @mkmason2002
      @mkmason2002 Před 5 lety +2

      ANY Mom can diagnose a cold.

  • @Moonshinebaby1000
    @Moonshinebaby1000 Před rokem +45

    I was proudly working at BBC News in the early nineties on the technical side, recording journalists’ reports as they came in. Being of Serb origin I listened with interest to the reports about the war in the former Yugoslavia. I’m not a ‘political’ person by nature but this matter was close to my heart. When I noticed that completely unverified anti Serb reports were being aired I was in shock. A lot of those reports turned out to be completely incorrect. Yet there was never any apology. The Serbs were totally demonised, and still are to this day. The UK has written it’s version of history and it’s teaching it in our schools pointing the finger of guilt firmly at those ‘genocidal Serbs’ to justify it’s bombing of innocent civilians and illegal trespass by building it’s enormous NATO base on Serbian land in Kosovo. It disgusts me how righteous the West paints itself to be while ruining other lands and lives.
    Now I see the same thing happening with Russia and it’s people.
    In conclusion: whatever the MSM say, the truth is probably the opposite. As Pilger says ‘The crimes of America never happened’. When you think that the US is the only country to throw not one, but two nuclear bombs on innocent civilians in Japan and NOONE was punished ! How can they talk about taking Putin to their court of human rights when they do far more evil acts?

    • @michael511128
      @michael511128 Před rokem

      There was a 2016 NHK documentary called Executive Non-Decision telling from declassified archived documents that Truman didn’t give the orders to drop the bombs, he wasn’t involved before FDR died and killing women and children civilians just didn’t make sense. He didn’t like to be framed for the crime. The military gave the order then reported to him giving him no choice but to read from the script. But the documentary stopped there. Well, who gave the order to the military in the first place? Who invested in the Manhattan Project and owned the bombs? This remains to be classified, probably forever. But that wasn’t hard to figure out. Since WW1 JP Morgan was the designated financier of both domestic and foreign governments. At Wall Street they organised other bankers and industrialists of their investments. There weren’t that many tycoons back then. Many books have talked about them. In order to promote the bomb they must drop them in battle to prove their worth. There were bomb planes as well as film planes. The second bomb changed target from Tottori to Nagasaki due to cloud covering that probably wouldn’t affect the bombing but the filming. Afterwards they sold more than 50,000 bombs in 50 years and still going. What profitable business!

    • @thesilkpainter
      @thesilkpainter Před rokem

      Far more evil acts? Really? I want Bush and Blair in front of a court. I was on the streets before that irak war began and while it was going on. I know it was all a bout the bloody oil. But just as then I am also now protesting Russia's war of aggression. What a pathetic leader Putin is. He could have waited . NATO was weakening, Us was dithering and is turning inwards. He did not need to kill his brothers. I think China has influenced him. Xi is another super ego in this earth who thinks he is the state. Never put all the power in one man's hand. And here finally I agree,: the media should to be free and independent but: as long as the media are run by humans..it will never be totally neutral. If the media are run by algorithms: it will be worse.

    • @Nine-Signs
      @Nine-Signs Před 8 měsíci +7

      2011 Syrian war propaganda was the last time I have ever watched BBC news or paid for a tv licence.

    • @1000_Jeezai
      @1000_Jeezai Před 5 měsíci

      Well said

    • @maccjw
      @maccjw Před 5 měsíci

      I'm pleased for you as you got to see and hear 1st hand the perfidious BBC at work, question everything, my best wishes to you.

  • @kamelmebh9420
    @kamelmebh9420 Před 6 lety +5

    I have to admit Sir j. Assange will be remembered for many years to come, extremely lucky gentleman.Respect to him. We want to end the Zionist state occupation of Palestine please.

  • @joegrez
    @joegrez Před 6 lety +26

    Imagine what we had to endure before having to endure corporate news disseminated to our homes unimpeded and unchallenged on a daily basis. Thank God for people and sources like these. What a sobering piece of information.

  • @twominutetips
    @twominutetips Před 5 lety +15

    A MOST EXCELLENT video - thank you so much.

  • @damirserban
    @damirserban Před 6 lety +8

    John Pilger talk on Yugoslavia and Irak is more than a clear truth, and it is visible now, almost 20 years later after both countries are looted disturbed and displaced from history

  • @slwnky
    @slwnky Před 5 lety +11

    Free Julian let him get health care!!!!!!

  • @beastofsteel
    @beastofsteel Před 3 lety +7

    I wish they would not interrupt Julian when he speaks.

  • @kedy9469
    @kedy9469 Před 5 lety +10

    John pilger. Thankfully we still have Independent journalism, we must hold on to the likes of John and James Corbett.

  • @evazezulova7091
    @evazezulova7091 Před 5 lety +6

    THANK YOU, HEREOS!!!

  • @bazs7669
    @bazs7669 Před rokem +13

    This is a remarkable video, it should be essential viewing for all journalists, press barons and politicians in the world. John Pilger is an icon.

    • @custossecretus5737
      @custossecretus5737 Před rokem +2

      You would think this was an invasion of privacy.
      But it’s a useful tool for control.

  • @azadrasheed497
    @azadrasheed497 Před 2 lety +11

    Please share this with all your friends especially Americans British Canadians Australians, EU Nations, Africa, Asia.

    • @Dr.Spatula
      @Dr.Spatula Před 7 měsíci

      So not Russia and the entire continent of South America?

  • @victoews6842
    @victoews6842 Před 6 lety +14

    This debate should be part of every high schools curriculum in all NATO countries

  • @a.d.5121
    @a.d.5121 Před rokem +5

    John Pilger is a living legend for truth seeking, I admire you full heartedly for being the light in the darkness for five decades! I wish you take care and live a long life to see the world is changing into a hopeful and better one, the hegemony imperialist is in fact collapsing in front of our eyes right now!

    • @salvadorvizcarra769
      @salvadorvizcarra769 Před 7 měsíci

      Yup... Now, please check out these FACTS that are on the Web: "In 250 years of existence as a nation, the US has fought against 29 sovereign countries. (In Fact, since 1785, we have been involved, for 231 years, in some kind of war. And this wars, against all varieties of nations. From going against the Sultan of Morocco, to invading the tiny island of Grenada, 1983. Well, this means that in our entire history, we have only had 17 years of peace, and even fewer, cuz here the almost 5 years of our Civil War (Union/Confed 1861‒1865), are Not counted, since this war was not with another country, but against us. And the wars against the Native Nations of America either are not counted, for the same reason). Anyway: We fought against 29 countries. We have "Grown" 711 the size of our territory from the original 13 colonies. Our Economic, Political and Military development was established thanks to the Piracy, the Slavery, the Massacres, the Opium Trade or Cocaine Traffic, and the Weakness of many abused sovereign nations. We have provoked with total impunity, 12 Genocides and 9 Massacres, ‒inside and outside our own borders‒, and Assassinations of Gov’t. Leaders, Coups d'État and Economic Blockades in 6 UN member nations. Between 1947 and 1989, the US tried to change other nations gov’ts 73 times. It includes 66 covert Ops. And 7 overt ones. In Civil Wars: The US has taken advantage of and intervened without justification in the following Civil Wars: In Marquesas Island. (Massacre. 1813). US Forces seize Nuku Hiva Island (French Polynesia 1813), and establish here «The First US Naval Base», in the Pacific. This historical fact is important, cuz in 1813, the US had NO Territorial Land nor Maritime Rights in the Pacific Ocean, until 1848, when the US seized California and other Mexican territories facing the Pacific. In Haiti. (1813 and 1901 and then 1915-1919-1934-2001). In the Philippines. (1898-1902. Genocide. One Million people dead). In Hawaii. (1889 and 1890-1893 and 1901). In Cuba. (1898 and 1901-1902 and 1906 and 1913 and 1952 and again 1960). In Island Guam and Island Wake (1898-1899 and 1902-1905). In Island of Samoa. (1898-1899). In Puerto Rico. (1898-1902 to 2023 LOL). In Colombia. (1899-1902 and 1948). In Mexico. (1836 and 1847, and 1859-1861 “Cortina Wars”. And 1875 "Las Cuevas War”. And 1886 and 1904 and 1914 and again in 1916-1917 against “Pancho Villa”). In Russia. (1918-1920). In the "Republic Banana Wars" of Central America. (Massacre. 1912-1934). In Dominican Republic. (1916-1924 and 1965-1966). In Honduras. (1903 and 1912 and 1919 and 1924-1925 and again 2009). In Venezuela. (1936 and 1945 and again in 1948). Military Coup in Peru. (1948 and 1967). In China. (1856-1859, and 1899-1901, and 1913 and 1933, and again in 1945-1946-1949). Military assistance to Chinese rebels in Taiwan. (1951-1952). In Korea. (1871 and 1950-1953). In Iran. (1953). Coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh. (Massacre). In Vietnam. (1959-1975. Massacre and Genocide.). In Albania. (1949-1953 and 1955). In Panama. (1856, and 1903, and 1964-1968, and again 1989). In Brazil. (1950 and 1959 and 1964 and again in 2016). Coup and Intervention in Guatemala. (1944, and 1954, and 1966, and again 1982-1985). Coup against Patrice Lumumba and Intervention in Republic of the Congo. (Massacre. 1960- 1961). Coup and subsequent Fascist regime in Greece. (1967). The Hunting for Che Guevara, in Bolivia. (1968). US Military assistance in the Coup in Bolivia (Copper Mining Co. 1971). The “Bombing of Laos”. (1971-1973). Terror in Uruguay. Support for the regime of Juan María Bordaberry. (Genocide. 1973). Support for the regime of Moboth, in Zaire (Genocide. 1974). Attack on Cambodia. (Kampuchea. 1975). Democratic Republic of the Congo “Simba Rebellion”. (Massacre. 1964-1967 and 1975). Entry of US Troops into Nicaragua. (1928-1932 against Augusto Sandino, and 1937 and 1972-1973, and 1984-1987 and again 1995). Coup in Chile against Salvador Allende. (Genocide. 1973-1976). Argentina (1976-1986). Armed conflict between the Saharawi Arab Republic and between Morocco. (1976-2002). Support for the cannibal Jean-Bédel Bokassa, in Central African Republic. (Genocide. 1979). Military assistance to the rebels of Yemen and Oman. (1978-1979). Military assistance in El Salvador, special operations. (Genocide. 1980-1992). Military assistance to Iraq. (1983-1990). We, the US, assistance Saddam Hussein against Iran. (More than half a million deaths in ten years. 1980-1990). Support and funding of the Khmer Rouge of Pol Pot. (Genocide 1980-1982). In Angola-Namibia. (Massacre. 1980-1981-1984). Intervention in Grenada (1983). Here, in Grenada, the US Rangers attack lasted 6 hours, since the tiny Island has no Army, no Navy nor Air Force. The Ranges fought against 287 fearsome Police Officers. Actually, half of these Cops, cuz the other half had not yet come to work the afternoon shift. LOL. In Chad, support the Dictator and Genocide François “Ngarta” Tombalbaye. (1960-1972 and Intervention 1982-1986 and 2007). In Egypt, in the “Arab Spring” (2010-2012). Coup in Equatorial Guinea. (1994-1997-2007 and 2021). Coup in Peru against Pedro Castillo. (2022-2023). In Bosnia. (1994-1995 and 2006). In Burkina Faso. (2015 and 2021)... In Libya, Niger, Chad, Mozambique, Zambia, in Gabon (Gabon It is a small country at the western end of Central Africa. In just 4 years, 2019-2022, Gabon has suffered 9 Coups d'état. In 8 of these Coups, the US has intervened in one way or another). In Kenya, Oman, Palestine, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Mali, Jordan, in Kosovo, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, in Afghanistan, etc. And… Oh! Yeah: In Ukraine. What's so "Proud" about being a nation of Looters and Criminals? .

  • @deborrastrom8559
    @deborrastrom8559 Před rokem +9

    I Remember reading about Pilgers work & hearing his take on world events thru the Daily Mirror ( even as I was young in age, I was taught to respect honest/ investigative journalism early in life.) He therefore inspires us all to want to promote truth 😉 against the lies told to us Daily.
    Seems I should investigate all the good works Jonathan Heawood has done, What a great panel you have here! Thankyou.

  • @salamah9973
    @salamah9973 Před 3 lety +3

    Wish you will long life n be safe, Bless you always

  • @alexandraedwards7315
    @alexandraedwards7315 Před 6 lety +101

    Julian kicking ass with words of truth.

    • @klam77
      @klam77 Před 6 lety +5

      the establishment press ELECTED Trumpf! Unprecedented pre election spotlight was given him for FREE. b/c the establishment WANTS majority party (whoever they are) to have 100% unison and block vote to push through the 1% corporate agenda. Thats why democrats CHOOSE to be hibernating now. They know how the money is to be made: Just wait for the overwhelming backlash so that then THEY can collect money from the same 1% when their time comes and have 100% unison block dem vote to push through further the corporate agenda. It's a nice joke. It's a total drama. fake.

    • @rebelwithacause5217
      @rebelwithacause5217 Před 6 lety +10

      John Pilger acts as if we, the people can determine for ourselves who is telling us the truth just because we have the internet. I assume that he knows just how much disinformation is out there! I am retired and I cannot stay on top of it all. How are working people with families supposed to do it? We can basically discount whatever mainstream news is telling us but on the opposite side is disinformation from all sides! On top of that we are trying to navigate what news is relevant to our health, the education of our children, etc. How can we possibly discern, or form an opinion on world news when there are so many voices out there?

    • @TheRustedBucket
      @TheRustedBucket Před 6 lety +3

      I agree so much, the effort involved in being able to sort right from wrong is becoming harder, because there is so much noise (fake news) to wade through, to find the closest approximation of the truth.

    • @Dream-Academy
      @Dream-Academy Před 6 lety +4

      Yes Wikileaks has changed the game however as an eloquent presenter of reality John Pilger is a far more impressive speaker and writer.

    • @Dream-Academy
      @Dream-Academy Před 6 lety +5

      He's not acting.... he is pointing out the way..... the information is there .. follow the money and the power and it's fairly easy to see what is likely to be true. Firstly do not believe anyone including John Pilger. Question everything. Even if one media stream was faithful it would inevitably become corrupted since as it gains more power that power will corrupt it.

  • @davidcoomber4050
    @davidcoomber4050 Před 6 lety +15

    Assange looks unwell the strain of his inhuman imprisonment beginning to show

    • @zedstar0
      @zedstar0 Před 9 měsíci

      YOU SHOULD SEE HIM NOW! AN ABOMINATION BY THE TWO MOST FAKE DEMOCRACIES ON THE PLANET!

  • @keirozj
    @keirozj Před 6 lety +38

    Extraordinary Conference and Debate !!! Congratulations !!!

    • @enriquediaz7135
      @enriquediaz7135 Před 5 lety

      Buenas noches Jorge. No dominó el inglés pero si mi interés por este tipo de información.
      Jhon Pilger y otros verdaderos periodistas deben ser escuchados. Sabes si este vídeo existe doblado al español?

  • @renevitos7936
    @renevitos7936 Před 6 lety +8

    Pilger discussing Burma. Spot on.

  • @raphaelbernard7954
    @raphaelbernard7954 Před 6 lety +12

    These flowing words need to be told to the poor in local halls John Pilger etal so the people can come out in the streets

  • @solveigsokcanic5724
    @solveigsokcanic5724 Před 6 lety +9

    JULIAN IS NOT WELL, HAS BEEN PENNED UP FOR YEARS, & SHOULD BE RELEASED ON GROUNDS OF ILL HEALTH. HIS ONLY CRIME HAS BEEN SEEKING THE TRUTH!!,

  • @zehrajafri9252
    @zehrajafri9252 Před 2 lety +7

    So much unadulterated truthfulness, no wonder the lie monsters fear his freedom.Free Assange.

  • @AaronHahnStudios
    @AaronHahnStudios Před 5 lety +6

    Here's how stupid the world is...Jennifer Lawrence trips up stairs, Millions of hits on you tube from that, but this... 64,000 odd. Weird isn't it.?!

    • @hw-rg7gn
      @hw-rg7gn Před měsícem

      Mr. Pilget's otherwise well-documented list of atrocities is horribly marred by his sadly propaganda-laden diatribe against Ukraine...the words could have been written by Putin. Literally fake news.

  • @fritigerngothic4352
    @fritigerngothic4352 Před 6 lety +34

    Thank you, Julian Assange, take care of your health. Get a black belt or something.

    • @tapolna
      @tapolna Před 6 lety +2

      So terribly tragic how the international establishment treats Assange for merely his desire to deliver the truth

    • @hornetobiker
      @hornetobiker Před 4 lety +1

      @@tapolna Merely?Desire? lol

  • @sl0motionje
    @sl0motionje Před 6 lety +37

    Great speech John pillger

    • @tapolna
      @tapolna Před 6 lety +3

      1:48:35 "... So much is devoid of evidence these days. Yet, evidence is the root of real journalism. But, who needs evidence when you're running a witch hunt or a campaign of rumors or hearsay? ..." This is followed with example after example of such witch hunts and campaigns and their tragic consequences. ... Yes, Pilger gave an excellent speech and we should listen very closely.

    • @Dream-Academy
      @Dream-Academy Před 6 lety +1

      The pride of Australia

    • @pabloshaciendos3914
      @pabloshaciendos3914 Před 6 lety +1

      Pilger ‘s speech should be worldwide shown to all of us humans

  • @carmelroach730
    @carmelroach730 Před 5 lety +5

    We can not let this man be treated like this anymore he is not well this british gorvement are so evil

  • @MariettaFarley
    @MariettaFarley Před 6 lety +6

    I agree, for the most part, with J. Pilger.

  • @Moonshinebaby1000
    @Moonshinebaby1000 Před rokem +5

    We need more journalists like John Pilger. Sadly, he’s a breed that is nearly dead, as is the truth - though I try to search for that to save my sanity. Most people in the West don’t care about the truth and that to me is alarming. They just seem to want to have fun constantly for fear the truth will depress them too much and they won’t be able to cope.
    Once people get used to being lied to and controlled it’s almost impossible to go back. I feel like Winston living in his Orwellian world. Talking about what’s happening with others makes me feel like I’m a modern day party pooper. Pass the salt dear…

  • @guylatour3612
    @guylatour3612 Před 5 lety +10

    Bravo aux trois intervenants très méritants pour leurs engagements et leurs travails respectifs, et particulièrement à Monsieur John Pilger pour son émouvant discours dénonciateur des intrigues et agissements des vrais fomenteurs et producteurs de "fake news".
    Partagé !

  • @tinacolby1392
    @tinacolby1392 Před 6 lety +8

    Earnest.....I was raised that Trust is Earned not a Given, Truth will STAND, a lie must be re created, over and over and is a Replica, never never an Original. Be yourself.

  • @bridgetcooney234
    @bridgetcooney234 Před rokem +3

    Wonderful debate so much wisdom from experience 👏👏free Assange 💚🤍🧡 ✌

  • @Stella.J.000
    @Stella.J.000 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great to see this... wow.. Humanity is catching up with these phenomenal journalists! One of a kind for sure.. xx...

  • @uuubeut
    @uuubeut Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this debate.

  • @virtualgran2980
    @virtualgran2980 Před 6 lety +7

    veteran John Pilger shows the emperor has no cloths.

  • @Joker-cc5nv
    @Joker-cc5nv Před 6 lety +30

    for the hard working, MSM deceived, people ...
    about 00:11:00 Julian Assange
    about 00:56:00 questions for Julian
    about 01:19:00 Jonathan Heawood
    about 01:43:00 John Pilger
    about 02:38:00 Now aday's History, 'quality'

    • @PMunkS
      @PMunkS Před 6 lety +4

      John Pilger's key note address was masterfully presented; intellectually emotional in the sense that this horrible truth hurts. Not just for the MSM-mesmerized masses, but encouragement for those who demand more of journalism and the criminal kleptocrats posing as public officials. Thanks for breaking down the presentation into constituent markers J oker. I've gotta listen to Pilger's segment again.

    • @Joker-cc5nv
      @Joker-cc5nv Před 6 lety +3

      John Pilger is a living 'Giant' just as Julian Assange is! I'm thankfull to live in time's of this incredible great Hero's!
      The flower-power people turned into the evil, corrupted ones! Sad but true

  • @kimshaw-williams
    @kimshaw-williams Před 8 měsíci +2

    Brilliant summing up by Mr. Pilger...we are lucky to have access to this....

  • @kingsleysmith1279
    @kingsleysmith1279 Před 6 lety +5

    Serena Shim. an example of a real journalist..... a matyr for truth...... true bravery
    .

  • @sl0motionje
    @sl0motionje Před 6 lety +15

    Why I say the Monopoly is that this peaches one of the greatest speeches ever from some of the greatest people ever and nobody will ever really hear it and the people that do here it will not really get their voice be actually heard by the media a couple of us may slip by but it's a small number to the 7.3 billion people in the world

  • @klubsvetnikov8290
    @klubsvetnikov8290 Před 6 lety +8

    Welcome the concept of HobergPrize in the conference due to choice of 2 great personalities.

  • @nigelcowie6883
    @nigelcowie6883 Před 6 lety +4

    I was brought up to believe that John Pilger was an extremist, and not to be believed because he wrote for the Daily Mirror - how wrong I was.

  • @ravenman2011
    @ravenman2011 Před 6 lety +5

    Tänk om en enda journalist eller makthavare orkade lyssnade till detta. Tror jag tyvärr inte, Sverige i synnerhet. Tack Norge!

  • @katarinaaram588
    @katarinaaram588 Před 4 lety +3

    What do we do to our heros?

  • @butlincat1507
    @butlincat1507 Před 3 lety +2

    #FreeAssange !!

  • @stormyjim48
    @stormyjim48 Před 6 lety +12

    Thanks for Sharing!!!

  • @sherrivonch6044
    @sherrivonch6044 Před 6 lety +3

    There is a balance that needs to be maintained worldwide.

  • @jack-805
    @jack-805 Před 2 měsíci

    the world is blessed to have John Pilger in it

  • @sherrivonch6044
    @sherrivonch6044 Před 6 lety +5

    Pretty sure Assange had no intention of hurting anyone and there are some who manipulate and don't realize they do it. I am pretty sure education was his intent.

  • @minininjalove4205
    @minininjalove4205 Před 3 lety +8

    i miss Julian's free speech.

  • @wolfgangvonlichtenstein5222
    @wolfgangvonlichtenstein5222 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Individuals who care for truth. Amazing to think in 5 years how important these men and their moral compass is/was so important. If only we had more strong and integrals operating within media and academia.

    • @salvadorvizcarra769
      @salvadorvizcarra769 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Please check out these FACTS that are on the Web: "In 250 years of existence as a nation, the US has fought against 29 sovereign countries. (In Fact, since 1785, we have been involved, for 231 years, in some kind of war. And this wars, against all varieties of nations. From going against the Sultan of Morocco, to invading the tiny island of Grenada, 1983. Well, this means that in our entire history, we have only had 17 years of peace, and even fewer, cuz here the almost 5 years of our Civil War (Union/Confed 1861‒1865), are Not counted, since this war was not with another country, but against us. And the wars against the Native Nations of America either are not counted, for the same reason). Anyway: We fought against 29 countries. We have "Grown" 711 the size of our territory from the original 13 colonies. Our Economic, Political and Military development was established thanks to the Piracy, the Slavery, the Massacres, the Opium Trade or Cocaine Traffic, and the Weakness of many abused sovereign nations. We have provoked with total impunity, 12 Genocides and 9 Massacres, ‒inside and outside our own borders‒, and Assassinations of Gov’t. Leaders, Coups d'État and Economic Blockades in 6 UN member nations. Between 1947 and 1989, the US tried to change other nations gov’ts 73 times. It includes 66 covert Ops. And 7 overt ones. In Civil Wars: The US has taken advantage of and intervened without justification in the following Civil Wars: In Marquesas Island. (Massacre. 1813). US Forces seize Nuku Hiva Island (French Polynesia 1813), and establish here «The First US Naval Base», in the Pacific. This historical fact is important, cuz in 1813, the US had NO Territorial Land nor Maritime Rights in the Pacific Ocean, until 1848, when the US seized California and other Mexican territories facing the Pacific. In Haiti. (1813 and 1901 and then 1915-1919-1934-2001). In the Philippines. (1898-1902. Genocide. One Million people dead). In Hawaii. (1889 and 1890-1893 and 1901). In Cuba. (1898 and 1901-1902 and 1906 and 1913 and 1952 and again 1960). In Island Guam and Island Wake (1898-1899 and 1902-1905). In Island of Samoa. (1898-1899). In Puerto Rico. (1898-1902 to 2023 LOL). In Colombia. (1899-1902 and 1948). In Mexico. (1836 and 1847, and 1859-1861 “Cortina Wars”. And 1875 "Las Cuevas War”. And 1886 and 1904 and 1914 and again in 1916-1917 against “Pancho Villa”). In Russia. (1918-1920). In the "Republic Banana Wars" of Central America. (Massacre. 1912-1934). In Dominican Republic. (1916-1924 and 1965-1966). In Honduras. (1903 and 1912 and 1919 and 1924-1925 and again 2009). In Venezuela. (1936 and 1945 and again in 1948). Military Coup in Peru. (1948 and 1967). In China. (1856-1859, and 1899-1901, and 1913 and 1933, and again in 1945-1946-1949). Military assistance to Chinese rebels in Taiwan. (1951-1952). In Korea. (1871 and 1950-1953). In Iran. (1953). Coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh. (Massacre). In Vietnam. (1959-1975. Massacre and Genocide.). In Albania. (1949-1953 and 1955). In Panama. (1856, and 1903, and 1964-1968, and again 1989). In Brazil. (1950 and 1959 and 1964 and again in 2016). Coup and Intervention in Guatemala. (1944, and 1954, and 1966, and again 1982-1985). Coup against Patrice Lumumba and Intervention in Republic of the Congo. (Massacre. 1960- 1961). Coup and subsequent Fascist regime in Greece. (1967). The Hunting for Che Guevara, in Bolivia. (1968). US Military assistance in the Coup in Bolivia (Copper Mining Co. 1971). The “Bombing of Laos”. (1971-1973). Terror in Uruguay. Support for the regime of Juan María Bordaberry. (Genocide. 1973). Support for the regime of Moboth, in Zaire (Genocide. 1974). Attack on Cambodia. (Kampuchea. 1975). Democratic Republic of the Congo “Simba Rebellion”. (Massacre. 1964-1967 and 1975). Entry of US Troops into Nicaragua. (1928-1932 against Augusto Sandino, and 1937 and 1972-1973, and 1984-1987 and again 1995). Coup in Chile against Salvador Allende. (Genocide. 1973-1976). Argentina (1976-1986). Armed conflict between the Saharawi Arab Republic and between Morocco. (1976-2002). Support for the cannibal Jean-Bédel Bokassa, in Central African Republic. (Genocide. 1979). Military assistance to the rebels of Yemen and Oman. (1978-1979). Military assistance in El Salvador, special operations. (Genocide. 1980-1992). Military assistance to Iraq. (1983-1990). We, the US, assistance Saddam Hussein against Iran. (More than half a million deaths in ten years. 1980-1990). Support and funding of the Khmer Rouge of Pol Pot. (Genocide 1980-1982). In Angola-Namibia. (Massacre. 1980-1981-1984). Intervention in Grenada (1983). Here, in Grenada, the US Rangers attack lasted 6 hours, since the tiny Island has no Army, no Navy nor Air Force. The Ranges fought against 287 fearsome Police Officers. Actually, half of these Cops, cuz the other half had not yet come to work the afternoon shift. LOL. In Chad, support the Dictator and Genocide François “Ngarta” Tombalbaye. (1960-1972 and Intervention 1982-1986 and 2007). In Egypt, in the “Arab Spring” (2010-2012). Coup in Equatorial Guinea. (1994-1997-2007 and 2021). Coup in Peru against Pedro Castillo. (2022-2023). In Bosnia. (1994-1995 and 2006). In Burkina Faso. (2015 and 2021)... In Libya, Niger, Chad, Mozambique, Zambia, in Gabon (Gabon It is a small country at the western end of Central Africa. In just 4 years, 2019-2022, Gabon has suffered 9 Coups d'état. In 8 of these Coups, the US has intervened in one way or another). In Kenya, Oman, Palestine, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Mali, Jordan, in Kosovo, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, in Afghanistan, etc. And… Oh! Yeah: In Ukraine. What's so "Proud" about being a nation of Looters and Criminals? .

  • @solocyclist3993
    @solocyclist3993 Před 8 měsíci +2

    John Pilger a true global humanitarian ❤

  • @LanaMici
    @LanaMici Před rokem +2

    I can't believe so little ppl watched this. Every single person has watch this

  • @silversurfer4441
    @silversurfer4441 Před 2 měsíci

    I marvel over how sometimes the best writers aren't always the best speakers. FREE ASSANGE!!!!

  • @dragszes
    @dragszes Před 3 lety +2

    Assange in 2017 talking about big tech medding i french election and here we are today

  • @Juan-ud3if
    @Juan-ud3if Před rokem +6

    Assange is a great human being, a Hero of our times, how helpless are the millions of people for wnome he's suffering, that they can not get him freed, amd can never get his life back. Such a huge loss to the World's masses, their Champion shut away so he can't provide them with the truth that can affect them, even their life or death.

  • @HolbergPrize
    @HolbergPrize  Před rokem +22

    On December 1, 2022, John Mearsheimer and Carl Bildt will debate the war in Ukraine, Russia, China and global security. Watch the livestream and submit questions for the panel.
    holbergprize.org/en/2022-holberg-debate-will-fear-keep-us-safe

    • @mosebophil8085
      @mosebophil8085 Před rokem

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      @mosebophil8085 Před rokem +1

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      @mosebophil8085 Před rokem

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    • @oddjobbob8742
      @oddjobbob8742 Před rokem +3

      Everyone should watch Professor Mearsheimer mop the floor with Bildt.

    • @MarkLee1
      @MarkLee1 Před rokem +3

      Is there a recording of this?

  • @danielwest2186
    @danielwest2186 Před 6 lety +2

    Spot on friends .

  • @sherrivonch6044
    @sherrivonch6044 Před 6 lety +3

    When has manipulation never not been used by humanity? Independent thinking (questioning) is not bad.

  • @rp3875
    @rp3875 Před rokem +2

    Brilliant speakers all of them

  • @nzmpa1
    @nzmpa1 Před 6 lety +1

    The Truth.

  • @thespartan8476
    @thespartan8476 Před 3 měsíci

    2:07:20 it was great to see J. Pilger laugh, indeed.
    Thank you John Pilger.
    You indeed will be remember as one of the Best from the Rest.

  • @robertberger8981
    @robertberger8981 Před 2 měsíci

    After beautiful speaches and applaud nothing will change and everything will stay the same.

  • @HolbergPrize
    @HolbergPrize  Před 2 lety +4

    Don't miss the 2021 Holberg Debate on December 4. Topic: Identity Politics and Culture Wars. Panel: Judith Butler, Cornel West and Glenn Greenwald. Moderator: Simon Critchley. Submit your quesitons for the panel now. facebook.com/events/268888201777741/

  • @lenablochmusic
    @lenablochmusic Před 5 lety +3

    American democracy is built on this model: "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind. " "If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? The recent practice of propaganda has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits." - Edward Bernays (1928).

    • @jasonuren3479
      @jasonuren3479 Před rokem +1

      Everyone should read _Propaganda_ today.

    • @glennplumb2313
      @glennplumb2313 Před rokem +2

      Thomas Jefferson created the electoral college to control mob rule so America has never been a democracy yes they have a democratic voting system but the majority are ignored and a small minority decide, Mob rule was a real concern in the 17th century
      But mob rule is the majority rule the fundamental requirement to be classed a Democracy

  • @stevosd60
    @stevosd60 Před 2 lety +2

    295 comments in 3years - that shows how important this isn't to the great unwashed. That is the real problem.

  • @jeffh8872
    @jeffh8872 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This should be heard I can't believe 218 k views i wish the whole world could hear this

  • @hitchensghost
    @hitchensghost Před 6 lety +3

    thanks for the upload, i liked the list of contents. I wish Julian Assange had received and distributed the real story of 9/11. I liked the other speakers too, but this was not a debate.

  • @lucymacgillicuddy9488
    @lucymacgillicuddy9488 Před rokem +2

    Pilger tells exactly why they are afraid of Assange.

  • @claudiamitchell9237
    @claudiamitchell9237 Před 6 lety +3

    FREE JULIAN !

  • @catmovies1476
    @catmovies1476 Před rokem +1

    Free Julian Assange He never comes up short.

  • @GDawg2K2
    @GDawg2K2 Před rokem +1

    Spectacular expose!

  • @coshyno
    @coshyno Před 7 měsíci +1

    Even way back then Assange was already foreseeing the downfall of the unipolar world ! FREE ASSANGE !

  • @GueveraianKingsian
    @GueveraianKingsian Před 8 měsíci +1

    prescient and an existential threat to illegitimate dastardly established order: yet he is behind bars and murderers of flesh and truth itself, walk free and are yet elected-dystopian already no? bless this brother and his fam and friends.

  • @uuubeut
    @uuubeut Před 6 měsíci +1

    J. Assange, J. Pilger Humanity owes you debt that can never be repaid

  • @christinefischer2137
    @christinefischer2137 Před rokem +1

    1:21:17 that is sth i have been convinced of for a long time: humans can´t organize in numbers bigger than what constitutes a small village. things simply go corrupt. my conclusion is: de-globalize. decrease world-wide trade (step-by-step, not all at once, i know that would lead to incredible suffering), the goal is to go back to a regional life style where you reap what you sow.

  • @karenhodges7545
    @karenhodges7545 Před rokem

    Bravo. Thanks you

  • @ArundoTrad
    @ArundoTrad Před rokem +1

    A question unfortunately Julian didn't answer was vital in my opinion, related to the cost benefit analysis of wikileaks. Id love to have heard his answer.

  • @heidismith8970
    @heidismith8970 Před 8 měsíci

    How right he was.