Tractor Toothbar Torture Test - Who Makes the Best Cutting Edge?
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- Tractor Toothbar Torture Test - Who Makes the Best Cutting Edge?
Here are all of the videos in our tractor tooth bar series
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Tooth Bar Vs Factory Bucket Edge - Is It Really Worth the Money?
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Heavy Hitch Install
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Here are all of the videos in our tractor tooth bar series
Comparisons
The Ultimate Toothbar Comparison Video
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Tooth Bar Comparison - Bxpanded Vs Everything Attachments
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Tooth Bar Vs Factory Bucket Edge - Is It Really Worth the Money?
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Installs
Heavy Hitch Install
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Pirhana Install
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Wicked Bucket
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Installing bucket hooks
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Wild to me that people would give this guy grief about how he did each test with each bar. Hes out there digging holes in his yard to help us make a more informed decision. I for one appreciate the time, money, and resources you put into making these videos. Ill be looking at the Piranha Bar.
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exactly!!
This is the exact type of tooth bar comparison that I’ve always wanted to see and I really like that you included the factory bucket in your tests! Without owning anything but the stock bucket, I always expected that the Heavy Hitch would be the clear winner based on other reviews I’ve seen, but all of your findings make perfect sense. Thank you for taking the time (and money) to make and share this video for all of us on CZcams! Also, Happy Father’s Day, Brock!
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Happy Father’s Day
I have the HeavyHitch. The big reason I got it over the others was ease of installation and removal as in my size (48") it is a clamp on solution. It really goes on and off quick and easy. I primarily use it for braking up ground in the wooded areas around my home and large rock removal. It works well for those jobs. Moving loose stone like trap rock or smoothing a surface, I go with the plain bucket.
Thanks Brock for taking one for the team in that heat. I bought the Heavy Hitch for my 1025r’s 49” bucket and have never used it. Sitting brand new in the corner. Now after watching your video I’m never going to use it. Posting it for sale today. Thank you!
Yeah, not as big of cutting boost as I would’ve thought and kind of awkward getting used to the geometry of the teeth when pushing
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Wow Brock, I know how much time that must have taken! And I salute your willingness to open yourself up to the flak that will likely come from ardent fans of each blade. Great comparison. Also, love the final version of the thumbnail! 👍😎
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Thanks Brock. This the best and broadest comparison I’ve seen. I have the piranha bar and leave in on all the time on my Kioti CK3510. It offers a lot of bang for the buck. Thanks for all of your time and effort in your videos!
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It looks like we have a clear winner! I'm a bit surprised, but due to your diligence we now know the answer. Thanks for all of your hard work, and I hope you have a great Father's Day!
I was kind of surprised myself.
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Dude! Your work with this comparison was more than worth it…as you mentioned between 22:00-22:30. Kiddos for going out of your way to bring us this information. You personally saved me a bunch of time and money making the RIGHT decision on a blade.
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Great job as usual! Your content is very educational . Keep up the good work Brock!
Thanks for the encouragement
Thanks for the time and effort to bring us this video Brock! Before watching this video I figured the Piranha bar would win. It is what I would choose! Anyone ever sharpened a shovel and felt the difference? It makes sense!
Exactly.
Thanks for this video! My Piranha tooth bar came yesterday and I am excited to put it on today. Your video helped me to decide which one to buy! Again, thanks!
This is a great video Brock and should save tractor owners a lot of money and heartbreak. 👍 I've run a stock bucket for years and will probably continue to do that, but that the Bxpanded Piranha tool bar looked great in all your tests....especially for skimming grass. G
Definitely excels at peeling sod, but you can accomplish about anything you need to just a bucket. Especially if you have other tools for specific task, like a backhoe, stump bucket or grapple
Man you go to big lengths to test and show the differences in products. Thanks. Takes a lot of time. You and Tractor Time with Tim is where it’s @. 💐👍
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Brock,
Thanks for doing these tests, I know the time and effort that went into that was extensive. Not to mention all the diesel fuel used for this….. I was eyeballing the piranha tooth bar for a while now. I hadn’t even considered the other ones. This video pretty much affirms my suspicion of it being the right choice for me. Keep up the good work!
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I have the piranha. You can’t expect it to make a lot of difference. But it depends what you’re using it for, as shown in the video. It’s easier to skim off sod with it than without it. And if that were the only benefit, I’d say that doesn’t justify the cost. But…
I leave mine on most of the time. One thing it does that wasn’t mentioned is protect your factory edge. Helps prevent bending. Helps prevent wear. I’m very happy with it after managing my expectations. I did have to change my back-dragging technique with it on.
Awesome review, your review just saved me some money, and that’s what I wish all reviews would do. But some reviews get to the end and say they all work ok, it’s like they are worried about making some supplier mad!
You have saved a lot of people a ton of money with these bar/ bucket comparison vids.. Me included, thanks a bunch guy! Be cool, freezerburn'
I have a HH toothbar and I agree with your assessment from your testing. One thing that I appreciate about it over the stock edge (or other toothbar solutions on the market) is that the length of the teeth makes it like a set of mini-forks which are very useful for utilizing the bucket for picking up and moving large irregular-shaped objects like stumps. The HH toothbar plus bucket hooks plus chains = I can easily move pretty much anything that the loader can lift regardless of weird shapes or oversized dimensions that normally wouldn't actually fit in the bucket itself. I have "real" forks as well, but not having to swap out between the bucket and the fork frame etc for 99% of that kind of stuff is a major win for my weekend warrior projects.
You’re not the only one who has mentioned that advantage from them sticking out further.
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Have a 72" Wicked on a light material bucket. Wanted to add strength and get through my solid clay that was just stalling the tractor before (Mx5200). It does great ripping brush as well. I have never compared anything other than factory, but a definite upgrade in my rocky clay. Good review
Thanks for the comparison test. After 1 year with the paronia bar it's the best digging and brush cutter
Ever for my cx2510 koiti it makes my tractor a working machine!!
You did a great job with this review, thank you.
A big reason I bought the Heavy Hitch Toothbar several years ago, was to help pry out the multitude of rocks on my property. I know, bad for the loader. It does do better than the factory bucket. But the best tool for rocks is, a 6ft, hand-powered pry bar! The pry bar has tremendous leverage, and can dig out deeply burried slab rocks - that the tractor can't touch.
I do like the HH Toothbar better than stock bucket, for moving logs and brush. And, my bolt-on pallet forks fit right over the HH bar - very convenient. But, I constantly stuggle to keep the HH bar from loosening - and literally falling off. Now, my HH bar - sits in the barn unused...
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I really appreciate the information! I was wondering if I needed one. No chance of me trying those options and you have done the work for me. Subscribed.
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Great video man! Really liked to see the comparison, testing proves it all!
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Thank you for the video. I have a Pirahna bar, but we did not get it for the digging as much as we got it for how ridge it looked. I did not want to bend the stock buck in the middle, and I felt that that bar would be the best. Yes, we have dug with it, and it works great for that also. Keep up the great work, thanks again
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for a very thorough review. It confirmed my choice with the BX.
Awesome video. I will eventually get a tooth bar and your video is exactly what I needed to help my decision. Surprisingly, my stock bucket cutting edge is doing a pretty good job at digging.
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I thought you did a great job on the pros and cons of each tooth bar. I looked long and hard for a video like this back 2016 and never really found one. So thank you for doing this video.
I bought the piranha tooth bar in 2016 for a JD 1025r and have had zero complaints. I would buy another one when the time comes to buy another tractor.
It’s a great product
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Great video and I really appreciate your time and efforts in making this video. I was previously convinced that the Wicked Edge was the way to go and very close to purchasing one from Everything Attachments. I watched other videos and EA Wicked Edge performed well and I was convinced that was the way to go. Your video was a great unbiased comparison and I learned how each tooth bar performed compared to the others. Thank you again and I look forward to watching your other videos.
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Thank you for all the effort you put into this comparison video. Very good information, honest assessment and interesting to watch.
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Brock, This is the best Tooth Bar video i have seen to date. I bought a piranha Edge and love it. I did a lot of research before buying and came to the same conclusions you did. Thanks for another Great Learning Video>
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Thank You Brock , your efforts are appreciated by many many of us !
That's why we like it , that's why we're here ! And that's WHY we will be watching the next one....
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Thanks for the kind words
This is the coolest video I've seen in awhile. Great Job, you've got a subscriber in me.
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Great video. This is no doubt the best as far as how they function in common scenarios that many compact tractor owners would use them for. I have a 3046R deluxe cab and use my bucket to, move compost around frequently, and as my compost is on a large concrete slab, a smooth bucket is actually preferable. However, I also use it to move dirt given to me by road crews back to a hole I’m filling in the back of our property, and when scooping dirt that is not on concrete, it seems like a tooth bar would help, though after watching your video, I’m not sure now, though te Pirhana seems like the winner.
3046 with a cab is a sweet machine.
Thinking about scraping off concrete you definitely would not want the heavy hitch or you would just need to be prepared to take it on and off
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I throughly enjoy your video!
AWESOME VIDEO! GREAT WORK AND HELPED ME MAKE UP MY MIND. THANKS.
I am very impressed by your video and test methodology. Your experiments, data, and categories of comparison would make it a Research paper (one of the better ones) in a peer review journal for this stuff! Thank you. Thank you. I am a new owner of a JD 1025R and was about to help a neighbor clear some over grown brush. I could not have asked for a better review. I will look at your other videos. Congratulations on this work.
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I have the Piranha bar for my Kubota B3350, and one of the main reasons i bought was just to strengthen the bucket so i don’t do something thing stupid and bend it up. I also put a medium sized piece of angle along the the top of the bucket to support my square hitch and chain hooks. No worries about bending the bucket now. I also love the performance of the tooth bar, it never fails to impress. Good job on the comparison
Thanks for sharing. I did the same thing on top of my bucket before adding the grapple on the top
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Great test Brock.
Thanks Hank
Excellent video, 🙏🏼
Nice video Brock. I’ve had a piranha in the past and was happy with it. Was wondering is there something “much” better out there. You saved me time and money today. Good video keep it up.
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Glad I found you! Another CZcamsr agreed with your finding and that led me to investigate further. I didn’t know about BxExpanded until recently, I will be placing an order with them next week when I get my new Yanmar SA424. Thank you for all you did!
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Great video Brock. I’m sure this video involved a lot of time and money spent. Great video for others to compare and decide which one is right for them.
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Thanx for making this video. Great work. You saved me a lot of money and frustration. I had the Heavy Hitch tooth bar on my wish list. I saw the Piranha and wondered if it would be just as good at the lower price. Thanks to you I don't have to find out the expensive way.
This video is a couple of years old and I’m still using the piranha. Definitely happy with it.
This was a very informative and well put together video. Thank you.
I completely agree. I have done the regular tooth bar similar to heavy hitch and Piranha bar. Heavy hitch has its application. Piranha digs and does everything well. It excels with dirt work. Nice job Brock. Maybe your best vid. Thanks.
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Thank you for making this video! I am going to attempt to do some grading with my stock bucket, but if I decide I need a tooth bar, I will definitely be buying the prana bar after watching this video. Again, thank you so much!
Thanks. I still use the piranha bar on my bucket
Great review!
Thanks for the video! It was helpful for me. From what your testing shows, the biggest difference between them all is price. Marginal pluses and minuses. For myself, clearing small trees and brush, digging in hard, compacted soil, protecting my bucket, and price I would go with the Bxpanded. 👍🏼
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Really appreciate your work this comparison. Definitely helped me decide on the piranha for my property. Objective as anyone could be and answered most of my questions - someone pay the man! You may be dirt bias though ;) Depending on the time of year mine's snot and rock or cement and rock. Stay blessed and thanks again!
I have owned a Kubota B21 for 13 years and finally bought a Piranha tooth bar for it a few years ago. I can't believe the difference it made. I felt like I had a completely different more powerful tractor for loading work. The physics behind the design makes total sense why it was the best. It's all about sharpness and angle of attack. The Piranha has sharp edges throughout coupled with an angled approach of those edges appearing to be about 45 degrees. Imagine trying to cut a chunk of cheese with a knife by forcing the knife edge squarely through the cheese. It would require far more power to do this rather than pushing the knife through at a 45 degree angle. The other tooth bars tested have too much flat leading edges approaching the soil 90 degrees from the tractor's approach direction. The Wicked bar does have jagged edges, but they are very small and too close together such that they undermine their potential to deliver optimal cutting. I think the Piranha bar has the best balanced and simple design. I just purchased a Kubota L47 for larger work and ordered another Piranha of course.
I researched thoroughly before buying my Piranha and have been very happy with it. Nice comparison.
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I have been happy with it
Keep putting these videos up my friend. im loving them. hitting subscribe now!!
I had to give you a thumbs up like the video thanks for the help.
Thanks for the comparison review and sharing your time with us.
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I know how much time these videos take, so thank you for putting in the time to help all us noobies out. I'm deciding on my first tractor, so the toothbar is of interest.
Good luck with the tractor purchase
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Thanks for a nice comparison. Happy Father’s Day!
Happy Father’s Day
Great job! Thanks for the honest assessment!
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Thanks for this video. I bought two Piranha bars. Keep up the good work.
The tested are not exact but you definitely get the point. The video is excellent. It helped me 👍
Like your video, I have the heavy hitch for my 2028R, got a good deal on it, the tooth bars are all in the way you're going to used it ,the heavy hitch is good when digging out roots or brush, keep the great videos.
I like it. I don’t have 4 wheel drive so I appreciated that you forgot and I got to see how the 2 wheel drive digging works.
It's stock for me! Going to save me some cash. Thanks for your demo!
Great comparison video. I've watched a bunch of TTWT lately and he promotes the heavy hitch, glad to see it's not the "end all be all" I'm going piranha! Plus it has a fun name.
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Awesome video! I’ve been wondering whether I even want a toothbar. Some friends were all “it cuts through anything like crazy!” and I figured a lot of that had to be the placebo effect you mentioned. I may get the BXpanded just to protect my stock bucket edge, but definitely not in a rush to spend money on it
They can help but also still limited to your tractors ability to push throughout
You did great....very helpful....thanks
Great video! I agree that The Piranha was the winner. The Heavy Hitch sucks at back dragging. If I was looking at doing a lot of finish work I wouldn't own one. However, I live in the NE Ozarks and the soil here is very rocky and full of roots and stumps. I'm always pulling rocks out of the ground that I can't move by hand. My stock bucket had all sorts of trouble breaking through it to dig. Those teeth and the weird geometry really made a difference. The distinct points that break up the smooth cutting edge allow me to dig into the rocks with narrow points of contact. The stock bucket made digging around here sort of like trying to break through concrete. I suspect that the other teeth might have the same problem the stock bucket had, though without doing a comparison like you've done I can't say for sure. The Heavy Hitch has also been far more effective at getting under stumps than the stock bucket, too. Maybe that's where the Heavy Hitch is best; really rough brute force and ignorance jobs. For any sort of other I think that my stock bucket did better. I do like that Heavy Hitch, though. For the rocky ground I live on it works very well.
Sounds right. I thought about taking it up on the hill where my property gets rocky but would be hard to compare apples to apples on digging out different size rocks and squeeze it into a video
I wouldn’t be surprised if it excels there
Thanks, Brock, you saved me some money!
Great information!!!
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lots of work and appreciated
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Thanks for this. Helped me confirm a decision and save me another week or research...
I’m digging the testing! It would be interesting to see how they do in brush clearing where they need to cut through roots and such.
Agreed
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Thanks for posting this comparison. I've been wondering about getting a tooth bar. But now think I should just keep the stock bucket on my 1023.
I think the tooth bar can help but it’s not as dramatic as you might think
Really cool video! Well done.
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Really good comparison video. I purchased a Heavy Hitch a couple of years ago and completely I agree with you. It digs a little better than the factor edge but it doesn't backdrag well and as you say tends to dig in when you don't want it to. After taking it on and off a few times I decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
Thanks for sharing. Thought maybe it was just me
@@RockhillfarmYT Just order a Piranha for my 2038
Sweet
Very helpful especially when looking for a first tractor and how to set it up. 👍👍
again, great INFO. I agree with all stated and your result /conclusions too
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Great video Brock, I totally agree. I'm glad you did this comparison since I'm in the market for one and have been trying to figure out which one to order. I'm going with the bxpanded.
Thanks for watching Bill
I think you will be happy with it
After getting my 1960 OC46 track loader back working( see Watch Wes Work videos) I found digging to be near impossible in sod, or hard packed dirt, even though the original cutting edge was in decent shape.
I did some internet searching and ended up buying a B Expanded Piranha tooth bar. It's worked great, and won't come off till I have to shovel snow from my driveway this winter.
I cleared an acre of mulberry and ash saplings, that were so thick you couldn't walk threw them. Some that had very large roots, were just cut off at ground level, while many of the younger saplings were pulled out, root and all.
Since then, I have leveled off a pad, removed some big rocks and old concrete, and pushed some dirt around for a neighbors camper site.
I can say, it was well worth the money and works GREAT.
Great comparison! I just happened to find the BXpanded piranha bar and looked like a better setup than HH's and its also considerably cheaper $$
Great video! I believe that you really were unbiased.
Great video. I have the heavy hitch and agree with what you said about it. I really got mine for digging trees and getting those roots. It did work better than the stock bucket. The taking off and on is a pain and not something I care to do. I also have problems of the screws backing off.
Great video.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it
@@RockhillfarmYT this how we grow. Your video took much time and effort, thanks for doing it.
I have the Piranah tooth bar on my L2501 Kubota and I move a lot of gravel. Sometimes it’s hardened after a rain or frozen. The Piranah breaks it up easy. Also works really good for popping small saplings up by the root.
Absolutely a great video. Outstanding presentation. And Happy Father's Day to you and all fathers that may read this comment.
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I pretty much took the day off today. Hope you had a great weekend
very good, thorough, informative and fair as always and it is the reason i watch your videos 😀😀
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About the placebo effect, you have to remember that a toothbar is a tool and not a magical upgrade that makes a bucket better in all tasks. I bought a Piranha after trying to expand a ditch with a lot of small roots running through it. The stock edge often refused to cut through them. With the toothbar on, it cut through like they weren't there. But for unloading gravel or backdragging the stock bucket is going to be better. That's why easy removal is important.
Sounds right
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I was changing out the tooth bar too much and just wound up buying a separate stock bucket. So now I have a stock bucket and a bucket with a tooth bar. So much easier.
Great video, and thanks for doing these tests. I still think I may get one for mine however as the soil up here in NH is very rocky and gravely, so a tooth bar may give it that break up where the stock cutting edge cannot get full contact to cut down.
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Excellent texting. By watching your video, I would strongly agree. Again thanks and great job.
Awesome video, thanks!
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I have the piranha bar and the heavy hitch bar. The piranha bar is awesome for pealing grass up to save. The heavy hitch is great for moving septic tank lids and concrete. It also adds a few inches to your bucket and it helps if you pick up logs.
which would you recommend for moving dirt and breaking ground
Thanks that was very informational
Seems like a fair review to me. I have a 1025R which is lighter and less powerful. I feel like a comparison video for the 1025 would find the stock bucket performing worse. That said I do have a bit of buyers remorse after buying the heavy hitch tooth bar. While it does perform much better for some of my bucket tasks, it still has the same drawbacks you mention. I wish this video had been made before I bought mine.
Thanks for sharing. My goal is not to bash any product but just to give perspective
I did kind of wonder if the result would be different on a smaller or larger tractor.
Really good review! 👍🏻
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Thanks for video very helpful 👍
Awesome video thanks!
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I too have the Piranha toothbar. I purchased mine for two reasons. The first was to protect the factor edge on my bucket. I didn't want to tear up/wear down my factor bucket and have to replace it. I figured a toothbar would help reduce the damage especially when digging and hitting those unforeseen rocks.
The second reason i purchased the Piranha was I wanted something that would cut into brush roots and also push through clay soil. The toothbar has accomplished both of those for me.
So for me, the Piranha has proven itself worth the money and matches the results of your test although I have only the original factory edge to compare it to.
I will say, my EA 55" Grapple has taken over must of the brush removal jobs and the bucket and toothbar is now basically for digging/dirt moving/rock work, which it does well with.
Thanks for another great video.
Yeah, I haven’t used one but I’ve never heard a negative word about those EA Grapples.
Just goes to show you don’t always get what you pay for. Great test and I know it took a lot of time and effort to complete!
Nice comparison Brock! I've got a Skid Steer bucket on my tractor, a Deere C66 and I'm planning to order the serrated edge for that. It looks pretty similar to the BXpanded toothbar, so I'm pretty hopeful. I haven't done much (intentional) digging so far, I've accidentally cut right through the sod in a few places, so maybe the heavier bucket makes a difference.
My skid steer has a flat edge like that on the bucket. Not quite as sharp as the bxpanded but same idea
To me, the piranha toothbar is the best digging toothbar. The piranha toothbar will keep your bucket lip from bowing therefore, your bucket won't look as if it's attempting to smile when actually it shoud appear to be "mean and lean"🥴. I used my stock bucket for years without any toothbar then noticed my bucket strarting to get a slight bow. After 5 years of bare bucket use, I purchased the piranha toothbar and it's all hisorty from there. I like your comparison. Tractor owners/operators will make their decision after they do some heavy bucket work in rocky dirt and their bare, raw-faced bucket starts to smile b/c it's bowed-up. I considered the "Heavy Hitch" toothbar when I watched TTWT demonstrate use several years ago. Great video; your video is a great demo and well worthwhile, Rockhillfarm. Only b/c I now own the BXpanded toothbar and have used it for numerous dirt, rock, and root projects do I lean towards the BXpanded Piranha toothbar. Thank you for this video. Sorry, you're catching grief from skeptics but I think you did an excellent job showing comparisons. 👍🏽🤠 9/12/23
Nice job on the comparison! With those tasks my heavy hitch tooth bar should get beat. I learned over the months what it’s good for and what it’s not. I learned it’s a specialized tool, when you’re dealing with vines and roots or want extra horizontal capacity for brush or rounds it’s great. When I’m doing any kind of level work or anything like that I stick with the stock edge. I go months at a time without putting it on.
Thank you for sharing the info on how you use it
Great Video Brock, as a heavy hitch customer I have to agree with you as well BX is the clear winner. I don't dig that much as you do but if I did Id sell mine too and get the BX Expanded.
I thought heavy hitch was going to be the winner but in the testing I did that wasn’t what I saw.
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This was a great shootout, thanks much! The only test missing was ripping out brush, although more than likely Wicked would be best at that coz of the jagged but dull teeth...so it could grab it and yank it out. In that regard, it would function more like how the Ratchet Rake does (that thing works awesome for that purpose). Yeh, this a great test, and actually I just ordered the piranha bar for clearing out a spot for a new shed.