Scheppach OSM600 Belt and Bobbin Sander Fix and Upgrade
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- čas přidán 4. 02. 2024
- Following on from my initial review of this (gifted) belt and bobbin sander from Scheppach, in this video I fix the belt backing plate making if flat. This being made flat, also made it worthwhile adding a mitre gauge to the table top.
The results of this combination made for some surprisingly accurate results.
And yes, although I'm talking about the Scheppach machine here, the same issue (if it exists) can be fixed for the same machines - as in it's exactly the same! - from other brands including Triton, Clarke, DK Rutlands, Lumberjack, WEN, Holzstar, Bauer (Harbor Frieght), Grizzly, Sealey, Draper and - I think - Aldi/Lidl too.
Links below to the little mitre gauge and the Makita carbon pad I used below.
Mini mitre gauge - ebay.us/3b284Y
Makita Carbon Pad - ebay.us/olsRsi - Jak na to + styl
![*[Gifted] Hongdui HD-KS22 Mitre Gauge Fence Review and Comparison To Incra Flip Fence](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YSmvtEHv9kU/mqdefault.jpg)
That’s a valuable upgrade to a basically useful machine. In the cheap tools versus expensive tools, cheap tools are great if you can fix / tune them up. You’ve turned a relatively cheap tool into a high precision tool, for you. Excellent effort. If Scheppach are reading comments, then I suggest that in addition to adding your mitre attachment, they also add some set up shapes. It must cost only pennies to produce some polycarbonate shapes at the common angles. Perhaps even a simple adjustable shape?
Cheers mate. Yeah, I think by doing this it's made it a great little machine. I do feel a flat platten is fundamental though and can't help but feel it's a poor show, even if it's a budget tool. Like the idea of a guide set. I've made a bunch for my mft angle fence thing👍
Been looking forward to seeing what you'd come up with for this.. Very clever solutions 👌
Thanks Kieth. Pretty happy with how it's working now. Did you catch what I said at the end? About what's the point of all these brands shopping the same generics? Feels like a workshop banter topic to me😁👍
Great description and well executed - thanks!
Thanks mate👍
Nice workshop lighting 🎉🎉. Mine arrived last week. Very good 👍🏻. Thx for the heads up in the previous vid
😁👍 Nice one mate. Hope it does the job for you. I love working by mine but it's a bit bright for videos. Might have to make a diffuser for it.
I've had trouble with mine for years. i very rarely use it now at this stage because of the back plate. It's a great fix. If i have time, I'll eventually try this.
When the days warm up a bit to speed up drying time, it's a half hour fix really. Well worth doing if you still have a use for it I think.👍
Interesting, i just got the triton so ill need to check it out
Here's hoping it's flat! If not, at least there's a quick, easy fix👍
Good shout with the belt sander backing Stu. I was thinking what would I use, not a clue
Cheers mate. This is the quickest, easiest and most cost effective way to sort it I think.👍
Another great vid Stu. The problem with mine is that I can't get the moving table perpendicular to the sanding plate. I'd assumed it was the table, but maybe I need to look at the sander plate. 🤔
Thanks mate. If you need a bit more tilt on the table to get it perpendicular, undo the arms under the table (just a single pozi screw on each) and stick a washer over the screw between the arm and the table. Then tighten back up. Add another if necessary though, you might need to file the slot in the arms by the tightening knob if you do. This is the easiest way. I wouldn't try messing with the spindle or anything. Hope this helps 👍
@@BischBaschBosch Thanks Stu. That's a great idea!
Will definately have to do that to mine
Really helps this little machine I think bud👍
@@BischBaschBosch how come you did the mitre in the middle rather than to the right for wider boards?
@@samrix5793 When the mitre gauge is at 45, it's positioned so the point of the mitre is just catching the right side of the backing plate. This makes it look central-ish at 90. Still enough on it to neaten up a piece 65mm wide which is all I'd need.
My cheapo deg sander doesn’t go up and down but the plate is flat. So I find it very useful. It also has a slot for a mitre gauge. You need to set the mitre to the right. Don’t forget to continually dress the sandpaper if you want it to last more than five minutes.
Glad to hear it mate. A flat plattern should be standard. Oh well. Yeah, I have a large abrasive rubber for dressing. Very important. Showed it in the original review vid I think.👍
The Ridgid is fundamentally different in its drive system and there are videoe breaking down its construction but most notably it runs in the opposite direction and has left-handed fasteners on the belt/drums. That said I can’t say if it suffers from the same issue. I have the Bauer.
So, despite the huge volume of ridgid reviews over the years, very few showed the plattern assembly under the belt. A couple I found - and old grey version and an early orange version - appeared to have very similar pressed steel platterns. They showed signs of very uneven wear, typical of a sufface nit being flat, as well as bolt/screw heads in the plattern. I have since found online images of the newer ones which have a very different plattern design, much more typical of a hand held belt sander. They do look machined flat and as a bonus, dont have exposed bolt heads. It's good to see . Here's hoping the type I show here (same as your Bauer) follow suit one day!
My Triton has hump in the moving part of the table ,so I will have to sand the whole thing flat too get a mitre fence anywhere near OK.
Oh, that sucks. At least it's aluminium I suppose, so easy enough to attempt to sand flat. Best of luck.👍
Okay, a bit of a diversion here: if you truly want to understand the commodification of manufacturing and how China dominates in this regard, check out the "Half As Interesting" channel's "Why Almost Every Microwave is Made by the Same Company" video. Technology Connections channel looks at things the other way around, pointing out that vintage microwaves are generally better and genuinely more diverse.
Anyway, thanks for these videos. I will be jumping in and getting a machine of my own, but with the certainty that I'll be taking it apart and fettling it. Just like almost every other tool I own.
Cheers, I'll check that out. Even though we know though, dont we? Something along the lines of "to maximise profit potential you need maximum capacity, streamlined, cost effective production " sort of thing? That and marketising every bit of human activity is the grift of our times! Talking of tinkering/dismantling, it did cross my mind to combine my profile builds with these budget tools - stripped down for parts to unleash their potential. It's just time that stops me. Back on the furniture now🤷♂️
👍👍👍.Thank you
Cheers mate 👍
Nice fix, it's always useful to spend some time to properly set-up cheap tools and actually make them useful. 👍 Btw, what happened to the rail square video? Can't find it anymore
Absolutely! I'd rather not have to but, if the fix is straight forward like this one, it's no big deal really. I deleted all my BD videos. Long story short, wasn't happy with our relationship.
@@BischBaschBosch I don't remember it being a BD product. You made a square/parallel guide attachment for the mafell rail, from scraps of aluminium if I remember correctly.
@@igorbatinica2929 Yeah, the rail square itself was BD. I made the repeat stop for it from aly scraps. Still use it now and again too.
Interesting point about generic builds and the illusion of choice. I am pretty savvy but also pretty poor, so I have to shop around for the best I can afford. I must admit I'm less inclined to ask for product advice on Facebook pages about tools. I asked about thicknessers a while back and I was inundated with useless advice about everything except the actual tool I was asking about. But generic types can be great. I just bought a Rutlands badged worksite type table saw. It came with a DeWalt rack and pinion fence that was bang on, blade at 90 degrees out of the box, and all for £250. I tried a friends DeWalt and to my untrained eye, I couldn't tell the difference.
Yeah, ask 10 people's opinions on a tool and get 10 different opinions - not always on the same tool! A lot of times, if budget is limited, used equipment is the better option than budget new. I'm alright with the odd budget issue as long as it has a reasonable fix, like the one covered here. Good to hear the Rutlands table saw has a rack and pinion fence. Why that's not mire common I've no idea.🤷♂️👍
Look for Lidl's Parkside sander, is like this one but for just 100 euro
There are two versions of the Ridgid in the states. The one you show is the older version. The one like your is the newer version.
From what I could find, their newer version has a revamped body. Kind of like a base, a frame and a table, with slimmed down motor housing in between. Crucially though, non of its fundamentals re the belt plattern, looked to have changed at all.
@BischBaschBosch true.
As an update, Ridgid do indeed now use a very different plattern set up that looks much more like the real deal, flat out the box. Fair play. Shame they're not in the UK 🤷♂️
I might even consider a Scheppach now that I know what to do to it ;) ✌
Well, they're all the same but it does look nice in the blue😁👍
Is it really wrong that I love the smell of two part filler ?
Yes...you absolute loonatic!😂😂 My mate who works in a body shop loves it too. I always thought he was just desensitized 🤦♂️👍
Yeah. That is proper wrong. You need help. Smells like the devil's jockstrap.
It’s sad you have to do that to a tool that’s supposed to be flat apart from that you did a mint job
I always expect a quirk on budget tools where they've tried to save money but, a flat platten is pretty crucial. But thank you mate. Works quite nicely now👍
Looks like a good fix. Shame that you end up having to do things like this. As the plattern is such a fundamental part of the machine.
True and it is a shame. I really don't think this would be too difficult or costly a fix for the factory. Still, happy enough with it now👍