The Verge gets a lot of hate, but something should be said about this Dieter guy and how he structures his reviews. He's a really intriguing host. Keep it up, Verge.
The OnePlus is all about performance, and having the latest hardware with much affordable price. Pixel on the other hand is all about the camera, software and AI, Google has never been a hardware focused company, and it's not going to change any time soon. If you want the top of the line spec sheet (minus some compromises here and there) with affordable price you go for OnePlus, if you want the all-in-one phone, hardware and software wise (albeit slightly pricier) you go for Samsung Galaxy series, if you want the best point-and-shoot camera with advanced AI, fast updates but lesser hardware you go for the Pixel. This is the beauty of android - choice.
A Google user true but most of them are little bells and whistles plus the op7 pro has some things that a more expensive device doesn’t have like an all screen display and a 90 hz refresh rate
"A little bit cheaper" The top end 12gb of ram version is $500 less than the middle Galaxy S10+ model, $850 less than the top end Galaxy S10+ model and $700 less than the current price of the top end iPhone 10S Max (which has been out for about 7 months already). People need to get over the price on this phone.
S10+ is now selling at around $800 already.. except that refresh rate and slighter fluid software.... S10+ is way better than this... so you why people are comparing their prices
congrats to OnePlus, they keep pushing the boundaries of speed and (especially) prices like no other company. And the fact that they have a near stock android experience is always awesome
I don't get the wireless thing; it's stupid. It's not like the phone is charging while you walk around the world with it It still needs to rest in one particular place and you can't really use it when it's charging wireless Wired charging is way faster and you can use it while charging.
Also a charging mat or even a charger is not something you carry around unless your phone can't last a day. I see more USB or plug sockets than wireless charging spots in airports/coffee shops anyway.
Google please! Your Pixel series should be like this. Even your pure stock android is not even faster than oxygen UI. Pixel 4 should be your time to show how to be a KING OF ANDROID.
Fast vs smooth... Gonna go with smooth for me stock wins... But Google should definitely up the ram they had embarrassing ram management last year... 6/8 GB ram should do the trick... Also a second camera and Bring the headphone jack back 😂
I THINK we’re both right. Marques is right that it’s 90Hz all the time, even if you’re not scrolling. So it’s not true variable. But OnePlus told me it can ratchet it down specifically for video in specific apps. Limited application. - Dieter Twitter thread here: twitter.com/backlon/status/1128364341189697536?s=21
Marques also said that the battery wasn't all that impressive. Barely a day. Dieter though, believes this one will last more than a day, easy. Which is it then? (I think we'll settle on a day of wise use.)
When you all work on same office and get salary at the end of the month. Unbox Therapy : OnePlus 7 Pro Unboxing - It's ALL SCREEN Marques Brownlee : OnePlus 7 Pro Review: Silly Fast! The Verge : OnePlus 7 Pro review: amazing screen, solid camera Austin Evans : Is the OnePlus 7 Pro Worth It? Linus Tech Tips : The Fastest Android I've Used! - OnePlus 7 Pro Review
AL F. NDAs (Non disclosure agreements) basically they give you the device but give info about it to anyone not allowed under it, when they break, usually right after the announcement is finished, you can start posting reviews and videos (information in general) about it
Dieter, you are the best reviewer on the internet. Reviews from the verge do not make me sleepy while listening to the features of a phone. I like that you guys don´t just rephrase the specs like most reviewers.
WOW, you pronounced 'Huawei' correctly, which is kind of rare across majority of tech reviews on CZcams. It was like native speakers say it. Also, a sleek and enjoyable video to watch. Very well done.
Specs on this are insane for the price. They saved a lot of money by not getting that IP rating for water resistance, which really most people shouldn't care about. I keep my phone safe from water.
No it’s not, it’s fantastic for charging over night, or trickle charging when you’re at your desk. Though, granted with oneplus battery life and warp charge, it’s less of a dealbreaker
@@josephmichaels4741 Yes it is. You can just plug a cable into your phone and charge that way. When you put your phone on a wireless charging pad, the cable is right there, like 2cm away, plugged into the pad.
It really isn’t - the convenience factor is undeniable, especially given how well the Qi standard is being integrated into everything from cars, to furniture, to homes, universities, businesses, and more!
Especially with wide mats and pads that can accommodate multiple devices, you can just toss your phone, watch, tablet, and whatever else down and pick it back up whenever. It’ll be topped off and you can just get going without worrying about a mess of cables. Plus quick charging generates more wear on Li-Ion/Li-Po batteries than slower trickle charging. And with Qi being everywhere in everything, your devices are always topped off anyway!
Dude, you ARE the Verge right now. If you ever choose to go off and do your own thing, you will have an army of followers with you. You were made for this. Great review, thanks to you and the Verge for the constant quality content. No disrespect to them.
Idk, I knocked the price myself as well at first, but after seeing how amazing it is, I think it's worth the price and an e version wouldn't be quite as much of a good value.
Can you re-check the 'screen refresh rate will auto ratchet down' statement ..I have learnt it maintains the screen refresh rate at the preset value i.e 90 Hz OR 60Hz all time !!
hungrybearcub I know, but as it is not a reality yet and only planned it's still true that at this moment the screen is fixed to either 60 or 90 Hz refresh rate.
This and MKBHD reviews were the ones I liked the moest. Everyone else was just hating on the thing. It offers amazing things for great value. I have a pixel 3 XL right now and it lags like crazy, I use the UI 90 percent of the time and the camera 10 percent of the time. I want the UI to work better then the camera. Also if I am tempted for the pixel camera I can just get the GCAM mod which will solve the problem. Amazing phone for great value. Buying it day one!
The camera IS important, especially if you travel a lot, but for me it's the screen. I would say that the average consumer looks at their screen approximately 40 times a day, whereas they may only take 2-3 dozen photos a month. Of course that can vary greatly depending on the age/mindset of the user. Either way, I think that OnePlus has done an outstanding job here and they should get the award for the cell phone of the year. I currently use an iPhone, but when this sucker dies, I may have to seriously consider the OnePlus 7 Pro. Thanks for the superior review. You rock!
can we just talk about those levitating phone shots. in general the entire light/grip setup somehow is FANTASTIC since a few weeks. what changed guys? good job!!!
If you're sitting at a desk or in bed it can charge and the extra time doesn't matter. If you want the phone to last over 5 years, the extra wear and tear on the charging port is no bueno. Plus, if you have mixed devices in your family, wireless charging is universal. Its just nice to have even if you don't use it often. Why glass back a phone if there's no wireless charging?
@@ruskokollektiv5457 Because glass feels very premium. I've used multiple metal and plastic cases with my phone but I gave up on using them because they feel terrible in comparison to the glass back. Glass just feels so much more smooth, and nice on the hands. I was like you until I actually got a glass backed phone and realized how amazing they feel. Give it a shot dude.
@@lostandalive8981 meh, I've had three glass backed phones. They feel nice for 5 minutes, then they smudge and get oily like all other glass. Then you drop them and they break, like all other glass. Glass is only good for two things, feeling "premium" and not having RF interference. Everything else about glass is worse than metal or plastic. Polycarbonate is honestly the best choice but people have been conditioned to think it's only for cheap phones.
@@ruskokollektiv5457 I've had my glass backed v30 for over a year and not a crack has formed in the 9 plus months I've used it without a case. But stick to plastic if you like it. I don't really care. Just don't start saying glass is pointless, it's not.
finally a phone with zero notch and no front facing camera, just all screen! That's exciting to me. I'm a dude, I don't take selfies. I just want 100% screen. This alone has me considering switching from my galaxy s10 to the 1+Pro
NASA wants to know my memory of the moon landing. Well.... I was still an inexistent egg in my grandmother, we had no TV but thanks to my wild imagination I saw in full 4K. What can I say... It was great!
You forgot to mention that it has no micro sd card slot. Considering that Micro SD Express card slots are just around the corner, this is a deal breaker for me. These slots are going to help create a gaming revolution on Android phones where games are finally able to be 20 Gb's+ each.
@@MrRidocks Considering that a lot of computer games are 20-50 Gb's each, it's not a huge stretch to expect this eventually on phones. A lot of phone games are cheating right now because they often don't contain very much audio dialogue or high-resolution videos. Once the space issue has been solved, we'll start to see much better games.
@@xJohnNguyen I don't think that will be. Possible on a phone the storage and processors are to weak to handle such large device. If you want better games on a phone I think it would be more cloud computing
@@MrRidocks We're closer than you think. SD Express cards will provide the storage bandwidth that's necessary. Snapdragon 855 is also already quite a capable processor. Just look at the Nintendo Switch for a prime example of what's already possible.
I'm also not a fan of Hugh display I wish one plus will launch small display phone 5.5" maybe without curve display like galaxy s10e... It's great to handle and carry in pocket... I will definitely go for it if it happens
I think that as long as the phone is worth the price, then it's fine. This has what seems like a practical solution to the notch, a beautiful screen, a great camera, supercharging, great battery and fast/clean OS. For what it gives, it's an understandable price.
The OP7P is meant to compete against the Pixel 3 XL, S10+ and Xs Max. In that regard, the OP7P offers a huge cost savings over those premium flagships. The regular OP7 is available in some markets now, but will come to others (like the USA) later, I think. That will most likely come in at a more palatable price tag, just as other OP models have. If it still isn’t, there’s always the 3a and Pocophone! Edit; removed extra “is” from sentence
I never thought I'd see The Verge talk so good about an Android phone. This reminds me of the days when they were Apple biased. The again in those days iPhones were ahead of the pack.
Which I find so ridiculously useless... The percentage of people who actually record their screen is minimal, and there are hundreds of apps to be downloaded for that purpose, instead of having it as bloatware (for the 90% of people who would never record their phone screen).
IP rating should not be a deal breaker for anyone. What OEMs don't tell you is that the adhesive used to seal the phone and keep water out starts to degrade after several months. A phone with an IP rating will not have the same resistance to water a year after you've gotten it. IP ratings are great for spilling soda on your phone accidentally, not for dips in a toilet bowl or the pool.
Plus the OnePlus is somewhat water resistant as shown on one of their teasers dropping it in to a bucket. I still wouldn't take an Ip rated phone swimming with me anyways as its not under warranty.
I know lots of people talk about the audio on the OnePlus...but with my 1+"6 the speaker works itself in much like high-end Audio drivers.I noticed that after 6months the audio was louder and much clearer. Its like a new tight fit that will sort itself out and should then last pretty long as a result
love you deiter. wish you had talked about how cool warp charging is considering some companies are still not even providing any sort of fast charging at a $1000+ price tag. It's the principle
What is the point of wireless charger if its going to do 0-100% over a lifetime when same can be done in 20min! American reviewers need to buy brain...seriously
You're the one that needs a brain ironically. Each have their own benefits and uses. When you are pressed for time fast charger makes sense. When you want convienience wireless charging makes sense especially in a car which support wireless charging now a days. Plus you can use it as a case for extra battery life. Plus it won't harm battery life in the long run like a fast charger will. They both have their benefits and uses. So don't make such stupid blanket statements. Seriously.
@@zhetaolu963 its wireless because you don't need to connect a wire to the phone like some sort of puzzle piece. You just place and go. In the future you will be able to have truely wireless charging where you can just enter an area like your home and it will begin charging. But it all has to start somewhere
I'm really disappointed they aren't selling the regular Oneplus 7 in the US, I'd prefer a smaller phone and a non-motorize popup camera with potential for failure.
Nice review! I love the look of the big screen and I like the idea of the wide and tele lens options. I'm using a Pixel 2XL and I think I'd miss the front facing speakers too much but I appreciate having different options with different phones.
They’re not saying it’s a cheap phone, because it isn’t. Like you said yourself, they’re saying it’s cheaper, it’s more affordable, more attainable, and offers a better value proposition.
Hey there, staunch Apple supporter and user here; I love it! Excellent value proposition and an undeniable contender in the market. I love my 8 Plus and I really wouldn’t trade it for anything right now, but if I were in the market for an Android phone right now, the OP7P would be very high on my list!
How can you not talk about the much superior haptic feedback? Single most important reason why I prefer this phone over the Samsungs. The typing experience is incredible thanks to that haptic engine. I hear Pixels have a great haptic engine too.
@@viveksabbani6133 dude are you fuqin stupid??? How can it be 4.5 hours .. ? That's completely dumbness..Even if you Do gaming then it would run ATLEAST 4-6 hours..
The phone will be fine if you drop it in water and lift it up within 5 min and that's enough for me. No flagship phone has a headphone jack so get used to it. And wireless chargeing is super slow compare to the warp. Also the phone is like 500 cheaper than it's competition so I'm willing to get past these small things
@@MJarthur95 no people will get over the jack when Bluetooth headphones reach the consistency and audio quality of the jack at similar prices. Until then you get over consumers demands Because just like fast charging has its benefits so too does wireless. Its much more convienient... No wires thst will break.. Especially great in a car or as a case etc... And won't harm your battery life in the long run like a fast charger will. Etc And a phone isn't waterproof. Only water resistant. The fact they have no IP rating speaks to how screwed you will be in the event you drop it in water or get caught in a thunder storm etc. Having said that its still a fantastic phone but don't try denying the things it misses out on.
You know, that question at the end is something I'm not sure I can answer with any certainty. On one hand, my small sampling of the versatility a triple camera setup (specifically the increasingly popular ultra wide, wide angle, and telephoto combination) can provide to expanding your possibilities when taking shots is something I genuinely feel should be considered standard for anything calling itself a top end phone from here on out. Sure, Google makes a great attempt at refuting this with it's AI zoom feature and a fantastic "standard" lens with a set of post processing techniques that makes every shot I look at taken by their phone's look professionally edited but at the end of the day, no amount of AI enhancing will truly MATCH what a telephoto lens can offer in terms of detail nor can it increase the field of view like a dedicated ultra wide lens. These are features that can be considered gimmicky for sure and may not be used for anything more than 10-20% of your shots (maybe even less for many) but when you use them, you're likely to take notice of the difference they can make from a fidelity and creativity point of view. On the other hand however, I'm leaning towards the screen. This, objectively speaking, is tied with the processor components for the most important things on a phone. Both are things you interact with pretty much every time you use a phone. The difference comes when you compare a midrange screen to a high end one though. A flagship processor is certainly a selling point and as an enthusiast, I'm likely to "never settle" for anything short of the highest end silicon that's on offer but when you put them up against midrange offerings during true day to day scenarios, most people won't notice the difference unless they're looking at them side by side under the metaphorical microscope. Shift over to screens however and even casual smartphone users can notice the deep blacks offered by AMOLED screens, same goes with expanded color gamuts increasing the punchiness of colors and accurate calibration avoiding the oversaturated look of early Samsung and LG phones using AMOLED tech years ago. Resolution isn't nearly as noticeable with the difference being very difficult to see between 1080p and 2k resolutions in most cases. The big promotional point of this phone's screen however, is in the refresh rate. At 90hz, it's pushing out 50% more frames ALL THE TIME. This can certainly be an issue for battery life but the trade off is amazingly smooth visuals, transitions, and animations. This effect will be something you can appreciate all the time too, which is why I find it to be so groundbreaking personally. Even the most heavy camera user will be hard pressed to make use of the additional lenses enough to really say that's more important than a component they use nearly 100% of the time they are using their phone (even when they're using the cameras in fact). If there's anything I'd wish my Galaxy S10 had, it'd be a 90hz screen. That said, the s10's panel is so good, I don't think I'll miss this feature TOO much but it'll definitely be on the top of my list for features come time to upgrade in a couple years!
But the OP7 is different from the OP7P; the OP7 is a slightly rehashed 6T with minor modifications and hasn’t been announced for other markets yet, where 3a is already widely available. The OP7P is a winner in every regard, but until we get the OP7 in other markets, the 3a may still be a better value proposition for us.
Reread my response - I never mentioned the camera. I said (and will say, again) that until other markets get the more affordable OnePlus 7, the Pixel 3a will be one of the best value contenders. Markets like the United States are not getting the OnePlus 7 yet, we are only getting the OnePlus 7 Pro, which is significantly more expensive than the Pixel 3a and 3a XL, and the regular OnePlus 7 that is available for you in India. But I will argue that the Pixel camera is the absolute best in the industry, for most uses, and will be one of the highest selling points over all other value contenders that compromise too greatly on camera hardware. Performance is adequate enough, so it comes down to usability, and when you factor in a class-leading camera, excellent software and hardware support, and the widespread availability that the OnePlus 7 doesn’t have yet, it makes the 3a/3a XL very compelling buys outside of India.
You made a mistake. The screen resolution is dynamic but the refresh rate is not. The only thing you can do to the refresh rate is lower it to 60hz in the settings and it will always stay at the set rate, even if the screen is not updating.
IPhone mentioned 11 seconds into the video. It's an Android phone, so how about starting off the review talking about and comparing it to you know, Android phones! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
he compared the price to an iphone and a different android phone, and it's not like he's comparing the geekbench scores to exclusively different os devices smh
Damn you OnePlus I'm very happy with my OnePlus 6t but now I want this one because it's everything my OnePlus 6t is only better. This is why I hate watching phone reviews because it makes you want to upgrade to early LOL
People crying over - OP7Pro camera is not so good as competition or just average, wait until OP7Pro releases an OTA update and then sooner XDA will have Gcam port and boom, you are looking at way better camera in any phone segment!
Which is more important to you: the screen or the camera?
the heart
the screen, a good camera without something to look at its pictures is no use
Headphone Jack
The headphone jack
Camera
The Verge gets a lot of hate, but something should be said about this Dieter guy and how he structures his reviews. He's a really intriguing host. Keep it up, Verge.
This is what the Google Pixel line should've been
Absolutely!
Ards Josef except with a better than solid camera, with the pixel camera of course
Pixel is really behind in the hardware department...one plus have at least got sources like oppo and vivo for new features
@@ihategooogle well said!
The OnePlus is all about performance, and having the latest hardware with much affordable price. Pixel on the other hand is all about the camera, software and AI, Google has never been a hardware focused company, and it's not going to change any time soon. If you want the top of the line spec sheet (minus some compromises here and there) with affordable price you go for OnePlus, if you want the all-in-one phone, hardware and software wise (albeit slightly pricier) you go for Samsung Galaxy series, if you want the best point-and-shoot camera with advanced AI, fast updates but lesser hardware you go for the Pixel. This is the beauty of android - choice.
Notifications:...
Notifications:...
*embargo lifts*
Notifications: OnePlus 7 Pro OnePlus 7 Pro OnePlus 7 Pro
Is that what happened? I saw all the One Plus notifications, I was damn, they must have all gotten the phone yesterday.
@@theloniousMac nah, they got it like a few weeks ago. They just aren't allowed to tell other, till the phone is released.
@@theloniousMac mkbhd had them for about 3 weeks already
Same with the new Supra lol
Same, I dont know which to watch first😂
The conclusion is easy,
A great smartphones doesn't have to cost a whopping 1000bucks
No 899€😂😂😂😂🤣
Wan Nazmi BIG FACTS
A Google user true but most of them are little bells and whistles plus the op7 pro has some things that a more expensive device doesn’t have like an all screen display and a 90 hz refresh rate
@@GhostlyVisage04 not even a 3.5 mm jack.. i wont buy op. agaim
@@trindadecr7221 the most expensive one is 829 cmon
$670 is decent for a phone like this. Considering Samsung and iPhone have crossed the $1000 Mark.
1:06 Finally, Dieter is back with his "stupendous"
Felt like it deserved it :) - Dieter
Even I loved that.😊👌🙏
Marques Brownlee : OnePlus Review.
Unbox Therapy : OnePlus Review.
The Verge : OnePlus Review.
OnePlus : Hey hey hold on ! Let us start our launch event first.
Rahat Iqbal except they posted it after it was announced
Mr Mobile?
@@theobserver3753 yep he too haha
@@MrSolidair no.
Linus too
This is THE smartphone of 2019. Big. Fast. The screen. Plus, it's big. You keep wireless charging. I'll take UFS 3.0 12GB RAM and 256GB HD for $750
"A little bit cheaper" The top end 12gb of ram version is $500 less than the middle Galaxy S10+ model, $850 less than the top end Galaxy S10+ model and $700 less than the current price of the top end iPhone 10S Max (which has been out for about 7 months already). People need to get over the price on this phone.
Yes, I mean you almost got everything with that price
You can get the S10 for 600 now and S10+ for 700 here in Germany. One Plus is way to expensive and so is Samsung and Huawei.
@@senagst6510 Yeah, but no FM radio! Joking ;o)
@@civicus2905 Not in American unfortunately :( the s10 / s10+ will stay full retail price until May or June of 2020
S10+ is now selling at around $800 already.. except that refresh rate and slighter fluid software.... S10+ is way better than this... so you why people are comparing their prices
congrats to OnePlus, they keep pushing the boundaries of speed and (especially) prices like no other company. And the fact that they have a near stock android experience is always awesome
NDA: Lifted
Review: Published
Camera: Hidden
hotel: trivago
Buzzfeed: Bad
Reddit: Good
What's NDA?
Hotel? Trivago
*Gives super fast charging*
Americans: I like wireless charging even though it is slow.
Oh you Americans are one funny breed.
I don't get the wireless thing; it's stupid.
It's not like the phone is charging while you walk around the world with it
It still needs to rest in one particular place and you can't really use it when it's charging wireless
Wired charging is way faster and you can use it while charging.
Also a charging mat or even a charger is not something you carry around unless your phone can't last a day. I see more USB or plug sockets than wireless charging spots in airports/coffee shops anyway.
@@xyoxus exactly my thought
Once you buy a wireless charger, and then see
You win the internet for today!
Google please! Your Pixel series should be like this. Even your pure stock android is not even faster than oxygen UI.
Pixel 4 should be your time to show how to be a KING OF ANDROID.
Fast vs smooth... Gonna go with smooth for me stock wins... But Google should definitely up the ram they had embarrassing ram management last year... 6/8 GB ram should do the trick... Also a second camera and Bring the headphone jack back 😂
in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Google in October 2019:let's give our customers a double notch.... what can go wrong?
fhaze10 no freakin way! Lol
jamardoogle2 jones yeah that would be great - a complete package. But maybe Google sell it for $1500. Lol
but MKBHD said the refresh rate is not dynamic. he talked to OnePlus about that. youre just seeing the vid at 30 because the vid itself is at 30fps.
Think he's referring to the auto switch feature.
I THINK we’re both right.
Marques is right that it’s 90Hz all the time, even if you’re not scrolling. So it’s not true variable.
But OnePlus told me it can ratchet it down specifically for video in specific apps. Limited application. - Dieter
Twitter thread here: twitter.com/backlon/status/1128364341189697536?s=21
But I believe that Android is not always updating screen
Marques also said that the battery wasn't all that impressive. Barely a day. Dieter though, believes this one will last more than a day, easy. Which is it then?
(I think we'll settle on a day of wise use.)
@@Sam-nd7sl maybe the battery wasn't all that impressive - compared with Huawei P30 Pro.
Nebula Blue...
What About?
Gamora Green...
And Thanos Purple???
Are you new to Oneplus? 😂 They always add a new color a month or two down the line.
Guess they'll take ur comment in suggestion. I really hope they do
Dude those color names are legit haha
you!!! I like you
Iron Man red
Captain marvel yellow
They did released an Avengers OnePlus phone, so hopefully
(⁎˃ᆺ˂)
video team did an amazing job
Please do a battery life comparison with the 90hz - 1440p and the 60hz - 1080p
Take my money OnePlus. I can't wait until Friday!
Me neither man. T-Mobile here I come baby 🤑🤑🤑🤑💸💸💸💸
Dieter review: Literally the only person that's likeable in The Verge
I love Dieter, too, but I doubt you know the entire staff of the Verge.
When you all work on same office and get salary at the end of the month.
Unbox Therapy : OnePlus 7 Pro Unboxing - It's ALL SCREEN
Marques Brownlee : OnePlus 7 Pro Review: Silly Fast!
The Verge : OnePlus 7 Pro review: amazing screen, solid camera
Austin Evans : Is the OnePlus 7 Pro Worth It?
Linus Tech Tips : The Fastest Android I've Used! - OnePlus 7 Pro Review
Magic Mystery ever heard of NDAs?
Dave lee and mr mobile? Great reviewers
Check out Dave2D too!
@@ferni0 no..?
AL F. NDAs (Non disclosure agreements) basically they give you the device but give info about it to anyone not allowed under it, when they break, usually right after the announcement is finished, you can start posting reviews and videos (information in general) about it
Dieter, you are the best reviewer on the internet. Reviews from the verge do not make me sleepy while listening to the features of a phone. I like that you guys don´t just rephrase the specs like most reviewers.
WOW, you pronounced 'Huawei' correctly, which is kind of rare across majority of tech reviews on CZcams. It was like native speakers say it.
Also, a sleek and enjoyable video to watch.
Very well done.
It’s strange how many folks stumble over saying Huawei!
“Great phones don’t need to cost over a thousand dollars.” coming from an even greater review.
Oneplus hardware and software and pixel's camera! Dream phone
oneplus 7pro with gcam, done
Marques said that the battery is quite bad, maximum 4 hours of SOT. Now I am confused since Dieter here saying it's excellent
Seems only mkbhd is saying that though... Michael Fisher said the same thing as Dieter
@@MJarthur95 I'm not taking that for granted though. I'll wait for actual battery tests then judge
The Tech Guy said it was average.
@@sidmas-zj5eu not to mention there's also an option to turn that screen down to FHD and 60hz
You should've known mkbhd is the most heavy user of them all.
Specs on this are insane for the price. They saved a lot of money by not getting that IP rating for water resistance, which really most people shouldn't care about. I keep my phone safe from water.
Yayy!! The best looking and fastest Android phone with best software!! Just install a gcam already and call it best Android phone.
can you install g cam on it? will it work ok?
Yeah it is a mini tablet😃🤣😆
I can't wait for a gcam porting to be released 😍
Liquid cooling
4000mah battery
Poco pissed them off
Waiting for Poco F2
What about ZTE Red Magic 3 with real motoric fan cooling system? Poco will feel shy to face it
when even the low end of low has 6 GB of RAM.... SHAM ON YOU! Google!
vhtriyok iPhones have 4gb of ram and is borderline faster than this. It’s all about optimisation, unfortunately android is poor at it.
@@Helloooooo don't compare 2different platforms. I can start with a list of things were Android will eat apple for breakfast.
@@Helloooooo Hahaha no. For sure not with the OnePlus 7 Pro's UFS 3.0 storage. This thing is lightning fast.
@Banana The legend said banana still listening till this day
@@yashchawla5273 bro stfu. He's right. Ure not
Wireless charging is just a gimmick.
No it’s not, it’s fantastic for charging over night, or trickle charging when you’re at your desk. Though, granted with oneplus battery life and warp charge, it’s less of a dealbreaker
@@josephmichaels4741 Yes it is. You can just plug a cable into your phone and charge that way. When you put your phone on a wireless charging pad, the cable is right there, like 2cm away, plugged into the pad.
It really isn’t - the convenience factor is undeniable, especially given how well the Qi standard is being integrated into everything from cars, to furniture, to homes, universities, businesses, and more!
Especially with wide mats and pads that can accommodate multiple devices, you can just toss your phone, watch, tablet, and whatever else down and pick it back up whenever. It’ll be topped off and you can just get going without worrying about a mess of cables. Plus quick charging generates more wear on Li-Ion/Li-Po batteries than slower trickle charging. And with Qi being everywhere in everything, your devices are always topped off anyway!
Dude, you ARE the Verge right now. If you ever choose to go off and do your own thing, you will have an army of followers with you. You were made for this. Great review, thanks to you and the Verge for the constant quality content. No disrespect to them.
Gosh i would kill for a S10e-type of version of this!!
Yeah. Sadly, the OnePlus 7 seems not a worthy 7e (or 7a if you might) compared to this. I'd rather wait a few months for a price cut on this....
Idk, I knocked the price myself as well at first, but after seeing how amazing it is, I think it's worth the price and an e version wouldn't be quite as much of a good value.
@@lostandalive8981 Unless of course you're one for those people not a fan of a massive phone and want the same goodness in a smaller package....
Exactly, the main selling point of the S10e for me isn't the price, but the formfactor
No you wouldnt
Can you re-check the 'screen refresh rate will auto ratchet down' statement ..I have learnt it maintains the screen refresh rate at the preset value i.e 90 Hz OR 60Hz all time !!
You are right, Dieter is wrong.
Yes. The screen refresh rate stays fixed at 90. Only the resolution dynamically changes as per the requirement.
One Plus is currently working on dynamic refresh rate.. it should come as a software update in next couple of month or so! As if now its fixed!
hungrybearcub I know, but as it is not a reality yet and only planned it's still true that at this moment the screen is fixed to either 60 or 90 Hz refresh rate.
@@hungrybearcub_films Agreed. I just pointed out that this feature is not available now.
This and MKBHD reviews were the ones I liked the moest. Everyone else was just hating on the thing. It offers amazing things for great value. I have a pixel 3 XL right now and it lags like crazy, I use the UI 90 percent of the time and the camera 10 percent of the time. I want the UI to work better then the camera. Also if I am tempted for the pixel camera I can just get the GCAM mod which will solve the problem. Amazing phone for great value. Buying it day one!
The camera IS important, especially if you travel a lot, but for me it's the screen. I would say that the average consumer looks at their screen approximately 40 times a day, whereas they may only take 2-3 dozen photos a month. Of course that can vary greatly depending on the age/mindset of the user. Either way, I think that OnePlus has done an outstanding job here and they should get the award for the cell phone of the year. I currently use an iPhone, but when this sucker dies, I may have to seriously consider the OnePlus 7 Pro. Thanks for the superior review. You rock!
The Oneplus 7 pro has a ppi of 516 and not, as mentioned in the video, a ppi of 561!!!
MKBHD said it had not great battery life and The Verge said it had great battery life
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Different folks having different views with different experiences, it makes sense. Dave2D also said the batt life was solid.
can we just talk about those levitating phone shots. in general the entire light/grip setup somehow is FANTASTIC since a few weeks. what changed guys? good job!!!
the best review for one plu 7s pro.. Fair, straight to the point, no bias ., thanks
€709,- for the base model, €759,- for the 8gb model and €829,- for the 12 gb model for all you european watchers out there.
Too expensive
wtf why more expensive in Europe
@@waqasahmad-jl4km Europe already includes tax
I don't know why people are obessed with wireless charging.I mean what's the difference the phone still needs to be placed on the charging dock.
If you're sitting at a desk or in bed it can charge and the extra time doesn't matter. If you want the phone to last over 5 years, the extra wear and tear on the charging port is no bueno. Plus, if you have mixed devices in your family, wireless charging is universal.
Its just nice to have even if you don't use it often. Why glass back a phone if there's no wireless charging?
@@ruskokollektiv5457 Because glass feels very premium. I've used multiple metal and plastic cases with my phone but I gave up on using them because they feel terrible in comparison to the glass back. Glass just feels so much more smooth, and nice on the hands. I was like you until I actually got a glass backed phone and realized how amazing they feel. Give it a shot dude.
@@lostandalive8981 meh, I've had three glass backed phones. They feel nice for 5 minutes, then they smudge and get oily like all other glass. Then you drop them and they break, like all other glass. Glass is only good for two things, feeling "premium" and not having RF interference.
Everything else about glass is worse than metal or plastic. Polycarbonate is honestly the best choice but people have been conditioned to think it's only for cheap phones.
@@ruskokollektiv5457 I've had my glass backed v30 for over a year and not a crack has formed in the 9 plus months I've used it without a case. But stick to plastic if you like it. I don't really care. Just don't start saying glass is pointless, it's not.
finally a phone with zero notch and no front facing camera, just all screen! That's exciting to me. I'm a dude, I don't take selfies. I just want 100% screen. This alone has me considering switching from my galaxy s10 to the 1+Pro
I want a version of this with a little smaller screen so badly
“Why would you buy a galaxy s10 when you can have this” awkwardly watching this on my galaxy s10
Imagine the cost if Apple had these specs (minus the Snap 855)
Jo Thank you for shopping at Apple that will be 5 grand and a severed chicken head XD
Last week CZcams content : *Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra*
This week content : *Oneplus 7 pro Oneplus 7 pro Oneplus 7 pro Oneplus 7 pro Oneplus 7 pro*
NASA wants to know my memory of the moon landing.
Well.... I was still an inexistent egg in my grandmother, we had no TV but thanks to my wild imagination I saw in full 4K. What can I say... It was great!
Ok. Never thought i would say in the past that but having android pure now is kinda more like a disadvantage that an advantage
why so?
This phone looks promising but having a pixel really changed my prepective of having the best camera and once you have that you dont wanna go back
@Prashant Patil yes to me it still isnt the same i have installed on other devices yet i always run back to my pixel
another great review/video Dieter - Keep it up!
Ufs 3 storage is the first in any production phone. The fold was never released to the public remember
"Great phones don't need to cost $1000"
.....unless you're a Canadian q_q
You forgot to mention that it has no micro sd card slot. Considering that Micro SD Express card slots are just around the corner, this is a deal breaker for me. These slots are going to help create a gaming revolution on Android phones where games are finally able to be 20 Gb's+ each.
you gonna put 20gb game on phone?
@@MrRidocks no SD card , Wireless normal and reverse, IP68 😂, IR blaster, Jack 3.5 🤣,😂😂😂
@@MrRidocks Considering that a lot of computer games are 20-50 Gb's each, it's not a huge stretch to expect this eventually on phones. A lot of phone games are cheating right now because they often don't contain very much audio dialogue or high-resolution videos. Once the space issue has been solved, we'll start to see much better games.
@@xJohnNguyen I don't think that will be. Possible on a phone the storage and processors are to weak to handle such large device. If you want better games on a phone I think it would be more cloud computing
@@MrRidocks We're closer than you think. SD Express cards will provide the storage bandwidth that's necessary. Snapdragon 855 is also already quite a capable processor. Just look at the Nintendo Switch for a prime example of what's already possible.
most important is how front camera activates and not a word on that
So far the only review that's lauded the camera
I'm also not a fan of Hugh display I wish one plus will launch small display phone 5.5" maybe without curve display like galaxy s10e... It's great to handle and carry in pocket... I will definitely go for it if it happens
even if your not a fan of huge display you have to admit it looks fantastic
OnePlus started off as the super loaded budget phone. Holding up to only one of those now
Technically you're still getting a flagship phone for half the price of iPhone/Samsung and other mainstream competitors. I say still holds up
@@r0z3d that's true but it has gone out of range for some people like myself already.
they are releasing a regular one plus 7 later which is their normal standard
I think that as long as the phone is worth the price, then it's fine.
This has what seems like a practical solution to the notch, a beautiful screen, a great camera, supercharging, great battery and fast/clean OS. For what it gives, it's an understandable price.
The OP7P is meant to compete against the Pixel 3 XL, S10+ and Xs Max. In that regard, the OP7P offers a huge cost savings over those premium flagships. The regular OP7 is available in some markets now, but will come to others (like the USA) later, I think. That will most likely come in at a more palatable price tag, just as other OP models have. If it still isn’t, there’s always the 3a and Pocophone!
Edit; removed extra “is” from sentence
The first phone with ufs 3.0 storage … will expect game and apps load even faster and smoother transition between apps
Really interested by this one as an S9 Plus user
This might be it. This might just be the perfect phone.
Too big
MKBHD says the battery life = not good
The Verge says battery life = great
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yeah and some other ytbers said it's really good, im confused. I do trust marques but I mean...
I never thought I'd see The Verge talk so good about an Android phone. This reminds me of the days when they were Apple biased. The again in those days iPhones were ahead of the pack.
I just saw the phone yesterday. The screen is gorgeous and butter smooth. You have to see it for yourself.
Xiaomi had screen recorder built-in to its mid-tier phones from last 2 years.
Which I find so ridiculously useless... The percentage of people who actually record their screen is minimal, and there are hundreds of apps to be downloaded for that purpose, instead of having it as bloatware (for the 90% of people who would never record their phone screen).
@@GiovanaSimmer nah it's useful
@@BlackParade01 Pretty much only for people who want to show others how to do something on a phone
IP rating should not be a deal breaker for anyone. What OEMs don't tell you is that the adhesive used to seal the phone and keep water out starts to degrade after several months. A phone with an IP rating will not have the same resistance to water a year after you've gotten it. IP ratings are great for spilling soda on your phone accidentally, not for dips in a toilet bowl or the pool.
Plus the OnePlus is somewhat water resistant as shown on one of their teasers dropping it in to a bucket. I still wouldn't take an Ip rated phone swimming with me anyways as its not under warranty.
I know lots of people talk about the audio on the OnePlus...but with my 1+"6 the speaker works itself in much like high-end Audio drivers.I noticed that after 6months the audio was louder and much clearer. Its like a new tight fit that will sort itself out and should then last pretty long as a result
love you deiter. wish you had talked about how cool warp charging is considering some companies are still not even providing any sort of fast charging at a $1000+ price tag. It's the principle
Oneplus launched nebula blue
Samsung will launch. Gamora green
Then Apple will launch thanos purple....
Xiomi has done nebula blue first
What is the point of wireless charger if its going to do 0-100% over a lifetime when same can be done in 20min! American reviewers need to buy brain...seriously
+ wasting half of the electricity
Exactly. I have been using oneplus 5 for 2 years now. I would gladly take 20w wired over 5w wireless charging. Its just so much faster
You're the one that needs a brain ironically. Each have their own benefits and uses. When you are pressed for time fast charger makes sense. When you want convienience wireless charging makes sense especially in a car which support wireless charging now a days. Plus you can use it as a case for extra battery life. Plus it won't harm battery life in the long run like a fast charger will. They both have their benefits and uses. So don't make such stupid blanket statements. Seriously.
plus: I just don't get the point that you need to actually ATTACH the phone to the thing to do WIRELESS charging
@@zhetaolu963 its wireless because you don't need to connect a wire to the phone like some sort of puzzle piece. You just place and go. In the future you will be able to have truely wireless charging where you can just enter an area like your home and it will begin charging. But it all has to start somewhere
I'm really disappointed they aren't selling the regular Oneplus 7 in the US, I'd prefer a smaller phone and a non-motorize popup camera with potential for failure.
Nice review! I love the look of the big screen and I like the idea of the wide and tele lens options. I'm using a Pixel 2XL and I think I'd miss the front facing speakers too much but I appreciate having different options with different phones.
It's funny how people try to sale 700$ phone by saying it's cheaper then others one.
Atleast don't say it's a cheap Phone it's cost 700$.
They’re not saying it’s a cheap phone, because it isn’t. Like you said yourself, they’re saying it’s cheaper, it’s more affordable, more attainable, and offers a better value proposition.
I wonder what apple fanatic said about this phone.... 🙄
Hey there, staunch Apple supporter and user here; I love it! Excellent value proposition and an undeniable contender in the market. I love my 8 Plus and I really wouldn’t trade it for anything right now, but if I were in the market for an Android phone right now, the OP7P would be very high on my list!
Getting "Flagship Killer 2.0" ads on this video from Mi.
And its got OP7 in its crosshairs
How can you not talk about the much superior haptic feedback? Single most important reason why I prefer this phone over the Samsungs. The typing experience is incredible thanks to that haptic engine. I hear Pixels have a great haptic engine too.
MKBHD finds the battery average, and you think it s great !! 🤔
Which one is it ?
Cyrille Le guennec I think it should be just OK. 2k display, 90hz refreshing rates and huge size can easily drain the battery.
@@TheSongchao what i thought
Dieter says battery gets 1.5 days.
MKBHD says 4.5 hours.
yeah that's what i am thinking! if it's really 4.5 hrs then that's a deal breaker to me.
@@viveksabbani6133 dude are you fuqin stupid??? How can it be 4.5 hours .. ? That's completely dumbness..Even if you Do gaming then it would run ATLEAST 4-6 hours..
Mr. Mobile also said 1.5 days. MKBHD always tend to have a shorter battery life.
Gotta also consider the constant locked 1440p 90hz display which is the reason battery drains quick
MKBHD said screen on time. In this review he said total time including standby time.
Please update your wallpapers page with this wallpaper, ASAP
Here's the updated link: www.theverge.com/pages/wallpapers
Watching this video on a OnePlus 7 Pro
No headphone jack...no party
where is headphone jack..wireless charging ..nd ip rating??
The phone will be fine if you drop it in water and lift it up within 5 min and that's enough for me. No flagship phone has a headphone jack so get used to it. And wireless chargeing is super slow compare to the warp. Also the phone is like 500 cheaper than it's competition so I'm willing to get past these small things
@@daviderwin2808 "No flagship phone has a headphone jack (...)" -> Samsung Galaxy S10
@@MJarthur95 no people will get over the jack when Bluetooth headphones reach the consistency and audio quality of the jack at similar prices. Until then you get over consumers demands
Because just like fast charging has its benefits so too does wireless. Its much more convienient... No wires thst will break.. Especially great in a car or as a case etc... And won't harm your battery life in the long run like a fast charger will. Etc
And a phone isn't waterproof. Only water resistant. The fact they have no IP rating speaks to how screwed you will be in the event you drop it in water or get caught in a thunder storm etc.
Having said that its still a fantastic phone but don't try denying the things it misses out on.
@@hudsonm2010 I forgot it had that but still the 7 pro is a steal
18:9 aspect ratio on your videos please. Let's take advantage of these new smartphone displays!
It would be great if we could get 4K or 1440p videos, but otherwise great work Dieter :)
after watching Marques 4k reviews, this 1080p feels medieval
Not only that color in verge videos lacks depth
Once again OnePlus had done a great job the oneplus 7 and 7pro...
hate curved screens ! that's why the galaxy E is such a great phone .
You know, that question at the end is something I'm not sure I can answer with any certainty. On one hand, my small sampling of the versatility a triple camera setup (specifically the increasingly popular ultra wide, wide angle, and telephoto combination) can provide to expanding your possibilities when taking shots is something I genuinely feel should be considered standard for anything calling itself a top end phone from here on out. Sure, Google makes a great attempt at refuting this with it's AI zoom feature and a fantastic "standard" lens with a set of post processing techniques that makes every shot I look at taken by their phone's look professionally edited but at the end of the day, no amount of AI enhancing will truly MATCH what a telephoto lens can offer in terms of detail nor can it increase the field of view like a dedicated ultra wide lens. These are features that can be considered gimmicky for sure and may not be used for anything more than 10-20% of your shots (maybe even less for many) but when you use them, you're likely to take notice of the difference they can make from a fidelity and creativity point of view.
On the other hand however, I'm leaning towards the screen. This, objectively speaking, is tied with the processor components for the most important things on a phone. Both are things you interact with pretty much every time you use a phone. The difference comes when you compare a midrange screen to a high end one though. A flagship processor is certainly a selling point and as an enthusiast, I'm likely to "never settle" for anything short of the highest end silicon that's on offer but when you put them up against midrange offerings during true day to day scenarios, most people won't notice the difference unless they're looking at them side by side under the metaphorical microscope. Shift over to screens however and even casual smartphone users can notice the deep blacks offered by AMOLED screens, same goes with expanded color gamuts increasing the punchiness of colors and accurate calibration avoiding the oversaturated look of early Samsung and LG phones using AMOLED tech years ago. Resolution isn't nearly as noticeable with the difference being very difficult to see between 1080p and 2k resolutions in most cases. The big promotional point of this phone's screen however, is in the refresh rate. At 90hz, it's pushing out 50% more frames ALL THE TIME. This can certainly be an issue for battery life but the trade off is amazingly smooth visuals, transitions, and animations. This effect will be something you can appreciate all the time too, which is why I find it to be so groundbreaking personally. Even the most heavy camera user will be hard pressed to make use of the additional lenses enough to really say that's more important than a component they use nearly 100% of the time they are using their phone (even when they're using the cameras in fact). If there's anything I'd wish my Galaxy S10 had, it'd be a 90hz screen. That said, the s10's panel is so good, I don't think I'll miss this feature TOO much but it'll definitely be on the top of my list for features come time to upgrade in a couple years!
Pixel 3a is dead (india price 40k > OnePlus7 33k)
But the OP7 is different from the OP7P; the OP7 is a slightly rehashed 6T with minor modifications and hasn’t been announced for other markets yet, where 3a is already widely available. The OP7P is a winner in every regard, but until we get the OP7 in other markets, the 3a may still be a better value proposition for us.
@@apollosbrownies just because it has a better camera it doesn't mean it is valued phone
Reread my response - I never mentioned the camera. I said (and will say, again) that until other markets get the more affordable OnePlus 7, the Pixel 3a will be one of the best value contenders.
Markets like the United States are not getting the OnePlus 7 yet, we are only getting the OnePlus 7 Pro, which is significantly more expensive than the Pixel 3a and 3a XL, and the regular OnePlus 7 that is available for you in India.
But I will argue that the Pixel camera is the absolute best in the industry, for most uses, and will be one of the highest selling points over all other value contenders that compromise too greatly on camera hardware. Performance is adequate enough, so it comes down to usability, and when you factor in a class-leading camera, excellent software and hardware support, and the widespread availability that the OnePlus 7 doesn’t have yet, it makes the 3a/3a XL very compelling buys outside of India.
bringing cheap solutions including optical sensor & pop out camera and calling it a day doesn't make it better than the S10 & iPhone, the Verge
ryt..👍
Ignoring all of the other ways this phone is better doesn't make you smart.
8:04 a teardrop fell out of my eye
Awesome presentation! Liked it. Very much.
Yes by the way we need headphone jack
Not solid enough to survive JerryRigEverything
It did though
It actually passed with flying colors.
It did
Hoax
It did bro
3:24 its 516 ppi not 561 ppi ... Paid review
You made a mistake. The screen resolution is dynamic but the refresh rate is not. The only thing you can do to the refresh rate is lower it to 60hz in the settings and it will always stay at the set rate, even if the screen is not updating.
No headphone jack, no buy.
IPhone mentioned 11 seconds into the video. It's an Android phone, so how about starting off the review talking about and comparing it to you know, Android phones! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
he compared the price to an iphone and a different android phone, and it's not like he's comparing the geekbench scores to exclusively different os devices smh
Damn you OnePlus I'm very happy with my OnePlus 6t but now I want this one because it's everything my OnePlus 6t is only better. This is why I hate watching phone reviews because it makes you want to upgrade to early LOL
People crying over - OP7Pro camera is not so good as competition or just average, wait until OP7Pro releases an OTA update and then sooner XDA will have Gcam port and boom, you are looking at way better camera in any phone segment!