Citroen XM 3.0 24V- ... I might need a Lexia for this...

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Před 11 měsíci +8

    The never ending Citroën patience test continues.

  • @latitude9.5north54
    @latitude9.5north54 Před 11 měsíci +12

    Cam and crank position sensors are notorious for going "open" when hot. Check readings with the sensors HOT.

    • @michaelb7071
      @michaelb7071 Před 11 měsíci

      There is no cam position sensor on the ZPJ4 engine

    • @Whateverpoopiepants
      @Whateverpoopiepants Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hot sensors is a thing.
      I nearly binned a vw tdi with a dodgy cam phase sensor.
      £1500 in other parts and the fix I did myself for £20. . . 😂

    • @jonytube
      @jonytube Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@Whateverpoopiepantsthis. Crank position sensors are like the first thing you should check if you have a TDI that won't start. 9/10 times it's just a cps, easy and cheap fix. You have to love TDIs, almost every other engine would have ring land failure or something along those lines

  • @Alex-gf4ux
    @Alex-gf4ux Před 11 měsíci +4

    I had to replace that distributor cap every 10 years on my xm v6. By time it gets deformed when hot (probably by developing some hidden cracks) and makes inadequate contact with the rotor. It results in uneven running, lots of unburnt fuel and finally the engine stops when it gets hot and won't start again until cooled down.

  • @holgerlutz705
    @holgerlutz705 Před 11 měsíci +1

    While watching your videos I always keep my fingers crossed that you fix one of the issues you address. I learn a lot from your checking procedures!!!

  • @jeremytoms5163
    @jeremytoms5163 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Bear in mind E10 has an issue with hoses, check low pressure fuel hoses haven’t started to deteriorate internally. Change all the vacuum lines as well. Had this on a few classics, seems even E10 vapour hates hoses .

  • @user-lx5wv7nc5r
    @user-lx5wv7nc5r Před 11 měsíci +2

    Good too see that things are improving. I would kindly suggest that you still try and remove the rotor and check it. As it was great a improvement when cleaning the distributor cap. And then you are sure that this is not the issue.

  • @eggy1962
    @eggy1962 Před 11 měsíci

    you certainly enjoy a challenge, my best citroen was ZX non turbo diesel..... because it was first citroen without majority of earlier silly gimmicks...suspension and wacky electricals

  • @mehrzahl2219
    @mehrzahl2219 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Keep going, your logic will solve it. Great content!

  • @chrissmith7655
    @chrissmith7655 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Hi when you operated throttle by hand , I could only one butterfly in throttle body opening, the front one,maybe it was the lighting, just thought I would check. Many thanks from UK.

    • @delukxy
      @delukxy Před 11 měsíci +1

      About 15:05

  • @Mr80sliveon
    @Mr80sliveon Před 11 měsíci +1

    Theres loads of those distributer caps on ebay UK.. bmw used them and early lancia thema used the prv engine too.. they are about 80 euros here.. new

    • @Mr80sliveon
      @Mr80sliveon Před 11 měsíci

      Also you don't need a lexia you can use a blink tester as you need to read ecus directly and not from a central port like Y4 cars...

    • @michaelb7071
      @michaelb7071 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Mr80sliveon Blinking only gives you fault codes. With Lexia, you have access to real time sensor data, which is a huge advantage.

    • @Mr80sliveon
      @Mr80sliveon Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yes I agree. I have lexia.. and the lead to connect to these older models.. not all lexia kits have the lead to connect to the older cars..

  • @TK42138
    @TK42138 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video, bit of a soft spot for the XM and have owned two 2.1TD over the years but have always wanted a 24v V6.
    There's a relay pack under the bonnet slam panel by the left hand headlight which can suffer corrosion on the terminal blades. Can cause all sorts of electrical mischief when dirty.

  • @ferguscosgrave7510
    @ferguscosgrave7510 Před 11 měsíci

    It's great trust to listen to your problem solving

  • @stogmot1
    @stogmot1 Před 11 měsíci

    ive been holding my breath waiting to hear if you have had any success so far . When its hot ,what sort of spark are you getting from the leads ,check see how far big the spark jumps compared when its cold , if the same that would count out coil and amp ect if spark is still big and fat .
    Definitely smoke test as you suggested a very good idea , and fuel pressure gauge inline so you can see real time what its doing .
    She does sound much sweeter .
    How old is the fuel ,e5 goes off very quickly .
    Looking forward to you cracking this problem .
    Some vehicles will run without the cam sensor connected as ecu then takes best guess from crank . Still rekon a oscilloscope on the sensors will clarify if breaking down when hot .

  • @BMPellogia
    @BMPellogia Před 11 měsíci +1

    i'm inclined to believe that those cooling fans running at full speed during the a moment of heavy current draw(from the starter) are proobably messing up with with the ecu. did you try to disconnect them for a hot start test?

  • @dailyingxm
    @dailyingxm Před 11 měsíci +2

    Those distributor parts should be readily available because 6 and 12 cylinder BMWs are using same parts.

    • @Alex-gf4ux
      @Alex-gf4ux Před 11 měsíci

      BMW distributor caps are very similar but have different Bosch part numbers.

    • @dailyingxm
      @dailyingxm Před 11 měsíci

      @@Alex-gf4ux Oh, you are right they do have different numbers. I have no idea what the difference is, but they seem to work with no issues (at least for me).

  • @chrisbury4635
    @chrisbury4635 Před 11 měsíci

    If it's not the ignition module then I'd be checking and cleaning earth connections and wiring loom connections too.

  • @martinmathiesen754
    @martinmathiesen754 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Det strømfordelerdæksel ligner nøjagtig det samme som på min Bmw E30’er…Der sidder rotoren også med 3 skruer 😊

  • @keyser414
    @keyser414 Před 11 měsíci +1

    your strut mounts are really high,be carefull not to break your bonnet.(99% they are the originals.)

  • @mwnci1000
    @mwnci1000 Před 11 měsíci

    I too would suggest the ignition amplifier. Is it still attached to its mounting point/heat sink?

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Před 11 měsíci +1

    Definitely seems like something gets hot and goes high resistance making it reluctant to start, and that starter speed issue, could be a bad power cable or something somewhere making a poor connection that is hit or miss depending on when the thing is cranked... :\

  • @andrewprettyquick2070
    @andrewprettyquick2070 Před 11 měsíci

    90s injection when mixture is right will make quite a bit of water

  • @mucniif
    @mucniif Před 11 měsíci +4

    It is strange that the cooling fans are running at the same time as you are starting the engine. It draws power from the starter motor

    • @michaelb7071
      @michaelb7071 Před 11 měsíci

      There seems to be an issue with the fan control and/or the driver side fan motor.

    • @user-bb7jg4gz4m
      @user-bb7jg4gz4m Před 11 měsíci

      All XM’s do that when key is turned

  • @emdae921
    @emdae921 Před 11 měsíci

    Leaky injectors, hence the difference in starting sound

  • @justso1823
    @justso1823 Před 11 měsíci

    Those cooling fans shouldn't run on start up id re check the cooling sensor or wiring

  • @thebusdriverofperajarvi1176
    @thebusdriverofperajarvi1176 Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe could be fuel return lines related. Like if fuel turned into vapour not letting the car start

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri Před 11 měsíci +1

    Crank sensor.

  • @ianturner6954
    @ianturner6954 Před 11 měsíci

    I am reminded when many years ago our family car was a Citroen GS Club estate that one day after a 50 mile run refused to start back up again but turned over and over just like the XM is doing now but wouldnt fire. A failed battery voltage regulator was the problem for our car. Could something similar be an issue with the XM... i wouldnt know even if the XM has a similar regulator or not?? Anyway hope you find the fix

  • @martindonderwinkel653
    @martindonderwinkel653 Před 8 měsíci

    I am wondering has this car timing chain or belt?

  • @SlavaSMi
    @SlavaSMi Před 11 měsíci

    Посмотри на состояние левой опоры, похоже её скоро оторвёт и помнёт капот.

  • @harryharker9564
    @harryharker9564 Před 11 měsíci

    I was also going to ask does it have a form of spark amplifier like the old 240's

  • @netzwerk-werkstatt332
    @netzwerk-werkstatt332 Před 11 měsíci

    🔧👍🍋

  • @toyotaprius79
    @toyotaprius79 Před 11 měsíci

    🤤🙌

  • @icascone
    @icascone Před 11 měsíci

    What a weird issue!!!

  • @andrewprettyquick2070
    @andrewprettyquick2070 Před 11 měsíci

    ignition amplifier