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The Plane that Faced an Invisible Force at New Orleans Airport - Pan Am Flight 759
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2024
- This Boeing 727 N4737 was forced down by an invisible and poorly understood phenomenon at the time. It happened during the takeoff of a regularly scheduled domestic passenger flight from Miami to San Diego, with en route stops in New Orleans and Las Vegas.
Well done as with all of your videos. As an ex flight attendant for SWA, I was always cognizant of the fact that any flight I worked may be my last. Godspeed to all who were on board that day.
Same! I was a flight attendant with American.
I can't imagine working like that. And I HATE planes and flying. I wish they had never invented the damn things.😂
I was working at Eastern Air Lines in their flight simulator department at the time. Once the downburst velocity was estimated, we programmed it into one of our 727 simulators. Our simulation showed that our 727's could have flown out of the same conditions, but Eastern's 727's had more powerful engines than PanAm 727's used at the time!!!
Yeah, -7Bs are NOT for short field performance or heavy weight ops. -15A's would be a minimum , -17 even better. But did you notice the gear down in this video??? they never raised the gear? were they at MTOW?
Absolutely horrific, I can't even begin to imagine the terror the pilots faced. Great video and thank you for creating, uploading and sharing!!
I was in NOLA that day and had no idea what was going on, except something really bad. The weather/conditions were much worse than the video depicts. I remember it well.
I had just moved to NOLA, living in Marrero at the time. By the time I got home from work at Avondale, this was all over the news. So sad. We waited for months to see what the FAA & NTSB had come up with.
I remember this my dad worked for national airlines when I was young and then they became Pan Am I'll never forget the day my dad came home and told me about it it was a very sad day in the airline industry.
I flew for 16 years. On a leg from Tulsa to Ok city we were descending through 10,000 feet, seat belt sign was on because there was storm activity in the area. When there was this incredibly loud bang and the aircraft went into a dive. I thought it was a midair collisio and in a minute or so it'll be over. The pilot was finally able to pull the aircraft out of the dive. For the next ten minutes (eternity) he fought to maintain the aircrafts stability though turbulence I didn't think was possible for the fuselage to survive. We finally landed back in Tulsa. What a mess the cabin was. Strangely enough no one screamed. Never before and never since have I experienced anything remotely close to that incident. And I mean remotely. This was 1984 and there weren't any reports of a shear situation and the towers did not detect it. It of course, didn't show on the aircrafts radar. Let me tell you there's no substitute for experience when it comes to piloting modern jet aircraft. The captain had that experience.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for a fantastic video. Only Hollywood makes films as dramatic as this. I love the aerial shots as the plane rotates ❤❤ 😊😊
I was flying a Navajo from KBTR to a small airport near navy calendar field at that time of that crash. I picked that storm up on my radar as soon as I was airborne. It was massive. I had to fly about 20 out of my way to get around it and come in from the southeast of new orleans. after I landed my ground crew came and told me pan am had just crashed. I will never forget that day.
This crash was so horrific and heartbreaking but technology was just not as advanced back then as it is today. A video well worth watching in my opinion. Video well done, thanks.
I know Pan Am had their share of accidents over the years but I was hired by pan Am in 1987 an I was a flight attendant for them until December 4 1991 when they closed down it was sad it really was a great airline
Minor points... 1. The wipers are ten times louder than these. So loud that they are almost never used while taxiing. Generally used only on short final and during the landing phase. Too damn loud for any other time unless you're in a monsoon type downpour. 2. The strobes on the wings are only used in flight. On for takeoff, off when clearing the runway. 3. "Packs off" takeoff takes bleed air from the APU to power the packs and pressurize the jet. By not using the engine bleeds you "save" more power for thrust and can set a slightly higher power setting for takeoff. Once safely airborne, the engine bleeds are switched back on and the APU is shut down. We knew very little about windshear back then. Now pilots are trained to a much higher degree and with much better info on how to mitigate the effects of windshear. But most importantly, they just don't take off or land when windshear conditions are present or likely on the runway they're using. The first rule is to avoid them. Wait the the storm to pass. Hold either on the ground or in the air until the conditions have improved. There has not been a major accident attributed to windshear in the US since USAir in 1994 (CLT).
Good points however, the 72 APU doesn't operate in flight. It's turned off before the takeoff run and back on after landing. Packs off reduces bleed load and increases available thrust.
Years ago when we buried my grandfather in Larose, LA; my uncle pointed out to us the tomb of a young woman from there who died in this crash.
My father and I watched this on the news at ATL while we were waiting to connect with our flight to FRA. We were visiting the Ionosphere Club when the news broke.
And here I was thinking commercial air travel got safe in the 1960's. Think B707. I traveled a lot with my job in the mid 80's. Always flew out of Atl-Hartsfield. Loved the L1011!! Didn't care for the MD's. B737s were blasé. The DC-10's never measured up to the L1011s IMHO.
I wrote some of the first software for detection of bad wind shear. Mercifully this does not happen anymore. For reasons I won’t go into the 727 was very susceptible.
That's great!
So tragic and hard to watch this, considering all that we know these days. There is now pilot training and detection warnings are [mostly] in place. So very sorry to hear this story. Can’t help but to also note that there was what seems to be too ‘slow’ of an industry-reaction after this crash, spanning the about three years until another tragedy with Delta 191. Any many others similar too. Didn’t pilots know about wind shear affect ages ago, like back in ww2? Sigh. Blessings and prayers to all involved.
I was flying for Royale Airlines out of New Orleans then. I saw the storm and commented to my wife that Ii was glad I was not flying
thar day. A USAIR DC-9 taxied on the runway but decided to delay their takeoff, and taxied off the runway. There was around 8 nurses on that flight going to Vegas. The ticket agent told them there was only 2 seats available. The nurses said we all go or none of us go. Good decision.
My cousin worked for Royale Airlines in New Orleans around that time. She started in Lake Charles, La. where she was from then moved to New Orleans. Her name was Vickie. She was a ticket agent.
Was a tragedy to all who was involved in plane, ground & ATC. I remember this. Unfortunately sometimes it takes this to happen to find ways to fix it for future. Captain, FO & engineer had lot of flight hours & B727 hours.
I'm thinking the captain should have handled the takeoff, knowing that it would be difficult. He told the first officer to let the speed build up so he had some idea of what could happen and what needed to be done so he should have been flying.
Very nice video, thanks!
I remember that day very well. It was a Friday and we happened to be headed to NYC - as it turns out we landed in EWR the same minute PA 759 went down (I realized this from the newspaper the next day). I always knew I’d have a career in aviation and this crash is particularly intriguing. So much learned from it - tho the fact that -27 weighed a hefty 105 tons and was powered by the least-powerful JT8D variant (the dog turd 7B) gave it zero performance margin. In fact the Captain requested they turn off the A/C pacs to allow for higher EPR on engines 1 and 3. He also said not to rotate promptly but let their speed build over Vr. They knew they were going to have a real fight to climb….. sadly they lost. RIP
Excellent digital recreation and content. Well done.
Thank you
I hate to think that windshield wipers on a airplane sound like those of a '69 Buick
'65 Dodge Coronet 440 :) same thing.
RIP to all those NPCs at the back of the airplane too. In a near future... planes will moan and cry before taking off in these conditions... "please no !!, captain, let's just stay on the ground..." :-b
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Thanks :)
The captain gave instructions on wind shear and said to let speed build on takeoff....when else would you let it build? Legit question. I am not certain what is meant. I remember this accident...it seems they should have waited for the overhead weather to lift? The control tower let them know it was there. So tragic.
If there’s wind shear, don’t take off!!! Wait till the storm blows over.
Ugh, the things we have had to learn through tragedy.
PAN AM Airline went out of business. You this Airline in many old movies.
Microbursts & wind shear can happen to anybody at any time. Audience wishes grieving survivors all the best. Cheers!
Felicitaciones Mauricio, ahora los haces en inglés también. Congratulations Mauricio, now you are doing your videos in English.
Gracias Fernando!
National Airlines!!!!
C.a.t......shocking!
Yeah, but taking straight off into a mature thunderstorm covering departure route wasn't very wise
New Orleans. Wow An Eastern 727 left MSY to JFK and crashed there due to wind shear.
Do aircraft really have this very noticeable stream of exhaust coming from the back of the plane? Because it’s not something I’ve ever seen. Wingtip vortices I’m familiar with, but never such a visible exhaust like this plane.
Oh my God
Did they really not pull the gear up to reduce drag?
That is still true today, when the gear is transitioning it greatly increases drag.
OMG 😮😢
Damn, nearly did it. RIP
So sad
Is this xplane or p3d?
Loud wipers sounds like a old wiper motor junk plane 138 passengers o boy
Very sad. Till deaths accured....
Plane is to old
Not when it was new
Good joke
Pratt must have been out of town when Whitney made that Engine