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- Watch a panel discussion moderated by Gautam Chikermane featuring Nilesh Oak & Vishwa Adluri at Dabur Red Paste presents Arth - A Culture Fest held at Indira Gandhi National Center for Arts (IGNCA), Delhi on February 8-9-10, 2019.
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If Arundhati moves ahead of Vashisht, calculations based on astronomy is what Nilesh Oak did. So those dates arrived at by him are accurate, authentic and acceptable.
Sad to see low view count.
Every school child in India needs to watch this and Arth videos.
Ahimsa Paramodharma comes from Bhishma’s mouth lying on the bed of arrows after THE WAR IS OVER. Ahimsa means not having anger in your mind against even your enemy whom you might be fighting against in a war.
Our first education minister was so-called Maulana abdul kalam azad, who went on to admit how he ruined our education system and said "Jinnah was right, Nehru was wrong."
Mahabharata and Ramayana teach us something else that we don't want to understand about what is good for human to live life peacefully in harmony with all on the earth.
I have studied in a catholic school and when we had our moral science Christian student will go to different room to read and study Bible. Why cannot we do that with Mahabharata and ramayan even quaran .why can't we cannot include religious teachings in schools so every student will know what they are following and there will be no discrimination
Humanity rests on our Dharmic values. Please also see the work of rajiv malhotra sir, who is working in this field for 25 years.
Agree👍
If it exists, you can find it in the Mahabharata. If it is not in the Mahabharat, it does not exist.
"Whatever is in the world... Whatever is the world... Ved vyas sums up all! "
I don't understand why nilesh's work is being criticized. He himself said that he is open to challenges, nobody has anything to break his claim, yet people do not accept his year's of hardwork.
Thanks to all the intellectual speakers for this wonderful discussion of the Mahabharat. I know due to limited time u were only able to scratch the surface of this great epic of the sanatana dharma. Wish one day I will be able to meet u all in person and listen to you all continue this conversation in more depth. Namaste.
Mahabharata is our history it shaped our nation we are save because we learned lessons from Mahabharata 🙏🚩
Wish..indian history text books to change..let generation next know the truth
i wish also for pakistan,
"Ahimsa Paramo Dharma. Dharma himsa tathaiva cha" Translation: Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma. Do not misrepresent this to make it seem like Hindus were meek non violent folk. We have been just the opposite when Dharma was under attack.
DharmaHimsaa is the himsa as ordained by Dharma. In its furthest point, it is referring to capital punishment conferred by a supreme court judge on to a criminal. It means in such case, it is the judge's Dharma to order that himsa. It is again the himsa of the warrior at the borders fighting the enemy. It is also the policeman using saama daana bheda danda.
I never seen such a beautifully organised, decorated and conducted debate on Indian scriptures covered by any channel or house.
I would like tobrequest you, if you can again Organise an Debate on Mahabharat.
Shri. Pawan Sinha( A spiritual leader of India, has done a marvellous job on Mahabharat or if i say on the history of Bharat ).
If you can call him on this show. It will be really informative.
#JaiBharat
First thanks to Arth team. Mind opening session.. congrats
Awesome findings of facts ! Proud moments for all Indian .
You all are doing so great work and inspiring us ❤️ your research and study will be guided us
The moderator is biased, he clearly cutting mr. Nilesh, who has right on the point answers, the fog heads are just talking collected notes, listen to Mr. Nilesh's work on dating of the 2 epics and Rigveda.. that blew my mind.. but the silly moderator wasted the event..
Nilesh made some very brilliant , logical observations through astronomical phenomena while dating the Mahabharata in another talk. Yes I too wish he had been given more time to disclose his very compelling research
Great videos.
First of all you guys are relly doing a great job ..
Great Talk ! But the role of Indic commentators on the Mahabharata is something that is missing !
The earliest vedantic Acharya who gave utmost importance to the Mahabharata was Acharya Madhva through his magnum opus “Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya”:
Not just the Mahabharata itself but each dimension (or Atleast most) of what the speakers are trying to portray are already discussed in the Tatparya Nirnaya of Acharya Madhva especially in chapter 1 and chapter 2.
Chapter 1 addresses the essence of the Vedas, extols the greatness of Rishi Vyasa
Chapter 2 addresses the adulteration / hijacking of the Mahabharata back in 13th century itself
Chapter 2 specifically highlights the 6 types of adulteration (decimation , interpolation , misinterpretation , error while copying / printing errors , grammatical ignorance and finally deliberate agenda based subversion )
Chapter 2 also extols the greatness of the Bharata, it’s comparison with the Vedas in essence , the role of Rishi Vyasa and so on
Chapter 2 portrays how the Bharata is perfectly in line with the Vedas thereby giving the Vedas its due significance ! It also extols the greatness of the Bharata through the lens of the Puranas . The Acharya says that Bharata acts as a magnifying lens which exemplifies the ideas of the Vedas through relatable analogies and kathas which bear an impact on the reader at all levels .
Chapter 2, Acharya mentions that he travelled across Bharat to find copies of the grantha , compared them , made observations , highlighted the 6 errors and then began his commentary.
Chapter 3 onwards highlights how Bharata is an encapsulation of everything that one can conceive and perceive through the analogies presented in the Bharata.
In a supplementary text (Yamaka Bharatam) : The Acharya highlights the importance of the letter “Bha” to India ! He writes a shloka with only the letter “Bha” repeated in the 4 padas! The commentary expounds the different meanings of this word “Bha” with its combinations and so on .
Throughout he draws parallel to the Ramayana and the Bharata wrt the characters and so on
Also , the work literally exposes the hypocrisy of so called Mahabharata Serials of the day :
Over emphasis on Karna
Under emphasis on Bhima
Propaganda of Brahminical fascism through misinterpretation of the Ekalavya story
Baseless sympathy on Duryodhana
Allegations of fraud on Krishna
Allegations of Draupadi having 5 husbands
Conflict of karma ( violence - non violence )
Allegations on the difference between Vedic way of life and Pauranic way of life (the deities and gods etc)
And more
To all these , he gives his answers through critical evaluation and elucidation of the spirit of Bharata!
These are just some aspects , throughout the work historical , etymological , numerological and philosophical nuances are highlighted by the Acharya !
Enriching talk! Thanks!
Jai Ma Bharati
13:02 Date of the Mahabharat war.
45:29 The head vibrates in three direction!
Great
good work
If Mahabharata is from 5000BCE and Ramayana is older , I wonder how old the Indian civilization is
Please send me the link of this book for buying
Why does no one talk about scholarship of our own gurus and Acharyas - for example, the Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya? (Sri Madhwacharya)
Perfectly said !
Not just the Mahabharata itself but each dimension of what the speakers are trying to portray are already done in the Tatparya Nirnaya of Acharya Madhva.
Chapter 1 addresses the essence of the Vedas
Chapter 2 addresses the adulteration / hijacking of the Mahabharata back in 13th century itself
Chapter 2 specifically highlights the 6 types of adulteration (decimation , interpolation , misinterpretation , error while copying / printing errors , grammatical ignorance and finally deliberate agenda based subversion )
Chapter 2 also extols the greatness of the Bharata, it’s comparison with the Vedas in essence , the role of Rishi Vyasa and so on
Chapter 3 onwards highlights how Bharata is an encapsulation of everything that one can conceive and perceive through the analogies presented in the Bharata.
In a supplementary text (Yamaka Bharatam) : The Acharya highlights the importance of the letter “Bha” to India ! He writes a shloka with only the letter “Bha” repeated in the 4 padas! The commentary expounds the different meanings of this word “Bha” with its combinations and so on .
Krishnan dharmam sanathanam
13:21 sounds good
FOR MAHABHARATA, WHO WAS NARRATED FIRST
29:52 True
A great conference with excellent professionals. Would like to know why is not mentioned about the importance of the language "Sanskrit? Sanathana Dharma is not Sanskrit word? Sanskrit is not the base root of all Bharatha languages? Would appreciate praises informative clarifications! Thanks!
Loved it., but you guys did not provide the names of the other participant. Please display the participant’s name at least once in the video as the American TV always does which is very helpful to the viewers. 🙏
What's not in the Mahabharat, that's not in the Vishwa
Make videos in hindi also..... hindi audience also know about this....try to make videos in hindi....
I have often been conflicted about the reality of both Ramayana and Mahabharata, which are / were taught in my school days as Hindu epics. Many believe these to be Hindu mythology. But, when I hear scholarly work which even try to date events in both these Hindu texts, I feel that these are part history and part mythology. IMO, most of the ancient Hindu texts are allegorical or metaphorical, and not meant to be interpreted as factual. This is where interpreters of ancient Hindu texts go wrong and then become dogmatic about their own beliefs. Like the Panchatantra or Aesop's Tales, Ramayana and Mahabharata ought to be interpreted for their intrinsic or underlying meanings, not as factual events. Only then will these be accepted by both Hindus and others.
Why are you confidently talking on behalf of all hindus and others. Just talk for your self. I will tell you my imagination has no bounds and everything is possible. I term Hindu scripture to be factual. bizarre is in your head. For me anything is possible. Magic is real. explain how a fax works. How sound travels through phone around the world in NO TIME(no time delay) even out of the earth. Imagine. Telepathy, Out of body experience, synchronicity. You must read David willcocks book "Source field investigation". real experiments.
7:21 which varna?
ParshurandKePilloKeDwaraBnayiGayiKahaniHai
who is this Joydeep - his name is not there in the Arth schedule.
He is Adluri's student and co-author of their books and research.
Joydeep Bagchee
Shiv agamas were discoursed lot before mahabharata
Who are the other panelists other than Oak and Gautam please ?
Vishwa Adluri and Joydeep Bagchee
39:51 How old is the Earth?
Very poor camera work. You did not show people asking questions.
Also show those on the dias with their Name Plate. It helps very much. We always strive to improve our methods just like other International counterparts. Complacency is never a virtue.
34:11 Can you differentiate between a dog and a man who eats the dog?
1:01 101
3:21 Untrue, facts are other way around.
ishwa Adluri has the weirdest "ne idhar ka, na udhar ka" accent in the world. Part Andhera Desam, part American.
42:40
It means that himsa delivered by justice is also Dharma.
Don't the judges of various courts convict people for their sins - including capital punishment.
The subtitles are pathetic. Content is great, you need to get a better translator.
Hey, anyone know the person's name where everyone agreed that he should be getting Bharat Ratna.
Supthankar
Thanks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu_Sitaram_Sukthankar
I have nothing to learn from these yankees!
If i want to learn about Mahabharata, i go to the original source.
Listening to others view is not bad however following blindly something is not wise.
THE FIFTH VEDA.... IS MAHABHARATA.
BUT WRONG TO SAY, WITHOUT MAHABHARATA THERE IS NO VEDA.....RIGVEDA, = THE OLDEST WRITTEN BOOK OF HUMAN CIVILISATION.. PRIOR TO THAT, THOUSANDS OF YEARS ..PRESERVED BY SHRUTI...i.e. BY MEMORY FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.....AND IT IS NOT REALLY ABOUT GOD. IT HAPPENS S ABOUT THE HUMANITY, NATURE AND POWER OF MIND...WITH LIFE ON THE EARTH.
This dude criticizing westerners in american accent. Come on bhai mere, atleast mahabharata to desi accent me bol leta
Discussion is shallow and not on the topic. Sorry... this is not about Viswa! Up to 10:35 they are talking about Viswa who fails to show any knowledge on the subject! I wasted my time on this one....
It is about Viswa's experience in front of western scholars which is very much relevant to give a background about how to study it now.
They didn't provide any correct answers. I tend to agree with European scholars. Can any of the speakers clarify how Vyasa can live so many years and write Mahabharata? He is the son of Satyavati, Shantan's wife. However, he wrote Mahabharat after 4 generations? So his age is around 300-400 years? If they can answer this question, then we can believe it really happened. Otherwise, it is like another story.
In olden days they lived longer everybody knows that. On a different point, UFO alien, inter dimensional beings enthusiast believe that aliens live for 500 to 1000 years. Life span has definitely changed. Animals sizes have changed Species have disappeared, New species have emerged. Time is not linear. Its cyclical. Science will tell you that.
@@sarak220 So all fiction!! Ask anyone whats the lifespan of human beings in 18th or 19th century. Its hardly 60 years. Have some real data to support any argument.
@@nammisairamesh r we talking 18th 19th century here? This is 7000 yrs in past
@@nammisairamesh you want me to give you data on this forum? Your curiosity should take u to search for answers. With arrogance and ridgit mind you won't find anything
@@sarak220 that why it is called fiction ,
Indus Valley Civilization dated back approximately to 5500 BCE and Mahabharata or Vedas have no mentioned of IVC. Without writing script how they memorize this vaste epic right after composing it. If Vyasa was not Brahmin then how did he know Sanskrit?
Bla bla bla all baseless arguments by you
Hey my dear fool friend. Indus valley civilisation belongs to the 1500 to 2500 bce.
Ever heard of Shruti and Smriti? You need some basic level of history knowledge dudu.
Sankrit is dev bhasa not brahmin bhasa
Recently a site in haryana was found which is 9500 yrs old and who restricted vedas to brahmins fool
All rubbish only the imagination!!!!!!
If you think you need to reclaim Tradition, why dont you at least dress in Traditional attire?? Yes I mean you, and, you on the stage in front of the camera//eye of the world! What kind of physical example are you setting for India? Have you invited one Brahmin pandit in front of the camera? You re all secular!!
Doctors children are not doctors unless they learn the science similarly person doesn't becomes brahmin pandit unless they learn Veda and puran despite of their name . And everyone here is a learner person so everyone is brahmin because that what brahmin do teaching people about what they have learned
Only bakar bakar. No value in the video. Waste of time