Why Do Orcas Keep Sinking Boats?
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Leave a comment to let me know your theory. Is it revenge? Or something else?
#TEAMORCAS
Aquaman?
Territorial behaviour for the purposes of securing spot as top predator due to conflict over food source
I recently wrote an essay arguing that cetaceans use language (this channel helped a lot, thank you very much) for my linguistics class
There's every reason to think that they know what they're doing
I do believe that they are taking revenge and that this is their way of trying to make people back off from the area
Maybe the reason they are not targeting the people on the boats for now is that they want humans to spread the message
Its probably revenge. As we know those animals are adaptive, creative predators that are pretty smart. Who knows what ideas they've formulated and communicated among themselves. Either way they are my favorite animal!
Can we honestly blame any sea creature for being mad at us?
Absolutely.
Correction: any creature. Period.
@@VenoTheLegend Mmhm.
@@eyespliced Why should we?
no yachts no masters 🤘
Something to pay very close attention to is the fact that the orcas are NOT physically harming humans. They are damaging one kind of boat, and only that kind. Gladys probably has a pretty legitimate reason for her anger. Those creatures need to NOT be messed with.
Looks like *[Orca]* is back on the menu.
Not attacking humans…. Yet
@@markedis5902 Orcas only eat very specific fish species, each family of orca does, if their fish dissappears that orca population dies, that's just dumb.
I guess things will change once a person falls off the boat and the orca's realize that person is edible.
@@Splarkszter That's odd since Orca's are also seen hunting seals and birds.Then again, those are the transient ones.
I work for the Washington state ferries and occasionally we have to stop the run due to Orcas. It's pretty easy to tell if it's a resident or transient, especially if one flings a sea lion to the moon. More so, the juveniles like to rub against the ferry from time to time which is absolutely terrifying btw. One time on the Bainbridge run, just off Alki, K pod showed up and we were stuck out there powered down for a good hour because the kids were rubbing against the boat as the adults went after salmon. It was a really surreal day.
You're very lucky to get to see these magnificent beings so often!!
Took a ferry to vashon island and Vancouver Island right across the border and that was without a doubt the best view I've ever seen.
I live in Seattle and love the rides on you're companies boats, the whale watching is great in Puget sound.
@@Icarus_IIWashington state is trying the best they can to save them but pollution, over fishing of the fish they need is the threat they face so southern resident orcas are endangered in Puget sound.
I grew up on Stuart Island in the San Juan Islands. We had a lot more whales when I was a kid in the eighties. We watched them hunt salmon right in front of our house frequently.
The fact that they chose the rudders cannot be a coincidence. They might just be intelligent enough to know what parts to pull off.
They really like that the rudders come off! No one can resist a trophy!
The rudders are the only thing that really protrudes from the bottom of the boat so it makes sense even if they are just playing.
It would be hard to bite a hull but a rudder would be easy.
I don't think I've read of Orcas attacking power boats, it seems to be only sailboats.
The rudder is really the only appendage on a sailboat they can get a grip on.
When they pull on the rudder the rudder post that goes through the hull rips
open the hull.
Predators are known to be very aggressive if they feel their prey is threatened by another animal.
They probably understand it as a fin.. it moves and in turn manipulates the ship.. much like their own fins. Fins of seals.. etc
Can we appreciate how they have the raw physical power to casually rip rudders off boats but they never attempted to harm anyone onboard?
How wuld they harm someone onboard a boad? Orcas don't fly...
@@Cowboy_Foradalei possibly one of the dumbest things ive ever read, hop off the internet and talk to your parents about teaching you more attentively
100% one of the dumbest things ive ever read
@@Cowboy_Foradalei These particular orca hunt blue fin tuna, meaning their hunting techniques would differ greatly from mammal eating orca. But trust me, if these orca were some of the more southern or northern mammal eating populations, they would not need to fly to get humans off those boats.
Fortunately, the orcas undertaking these attacks are almost all primarily juveniles meaning not only are they smaller, they also have not yet perfected their hunting techniques nor do they have the full pod working together to take down these boats. If the adults joined in ramming and tearing, they could sink these boats likely faster than humans could get help. Not that this means they would go after the humans.
@@Cowboy_Foradalei turning it duh
That's really an important topic to think about, considering how intelligent orcas are! Our crew registered how orcas are changing wildlife in the Arctic. Orcas were rarely seen there. But now, because the ice is melting, they found a way to get there, and our team caught on camera these dolphins taking it over and hunting animals that were unaware of their existence. It's a question mark what changes will happen with the presence of orcas there since they are always the main predator wherever they are.
Do you have a video on this?
Well if they are really intelligent it shouldn't take much to remind them who's boss.
@@somethinglikethat2176 on the waters we are not the apex predators, we require a boat to move anywhere close to animals in the water. Only thing we can do is send bombs at them and if that makes us the more intelligent species all is lost for humanity
You realise the ice has always been melting at the arctic right?? I really dislike this climate alarmism side to this "real science" channel
@@koenwijnen8278 But it's the pace that matters. This time it's melting at a rapid rate. Earth undergoes a cold and hot cycle every million years. This gives enough time to all the species to undergo evolution to adapt to the new tempratures, vegetation and environment.
But us burning fossil fuels, releasing methane, CO2 and other shit ton of greenhouse gases have accelerated the rate so much that it's expected to happen in less than hundred. Evolution is not that fast. Polar bears can't suddenly evolve fins and gills to be able to swim on the sudden melting of the Arctic ice.
Many animal species are gonna die.
Capturing orcas for human entertainment should be illegal.
The same for cats and fish. They shouldn’t be cooped up right. Do you have a pet?
@@dufferdude1205 comparing wild animals to domesticated pets shows how smooth your brain is
It's already illegal. And Seaworld are no longer breeding from captive animals, so once those orcas have died, there will be none in captivity.
I can't help but wonder if this is a pre-emptive measure by the orcas. Orcas are intelligent and long-lived-- I imagine at least some wild orcas vividly remember boats' involvement in capturing their calves and splitting up their families.
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Exactly!!!!
I wouldn’t doubt it
Just like in the Amazon them natives herd the tails on colonizers and the spanish n now they see any outsider they will gladly off if u are coming in range of there territory
Yeah right😅😅😅😅
I’m with the Orcas🫡
Evil gang evil gang evil gang evil gang evil 😈 gang 👿
Traitor of humanity
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I read about something a while back. A boat of some kind rammed and injured or killed a baby orca in that area. If thats true, then that must be the reason why these orcas have been attacking boats.
The boats have become the enemy, and I couldnt blame them.
I heard it was illegal fishermen harpooning orcas and using dynamite against them
I think you're making it up!.
@@fatdaddy1996 Nope, Orcas are unique in that each pod has a specific style of hunting prey, where they'll avoid eating anything else as they specifically hunt the specific prey of the area they reside in. This means that if a pod lost a member to a boat or realizes these boats are taking their food supply, this pod would in turn view boats a threats (and more over will pass this knowledge onto each offspring).
@@jish55Please don’t make statements of certitude with no evidentiary basis, especially on a channel that focuses on science. Assuming that one event automatically causes another without any evidence is simply a hypothesis…
@@mitchellscheer677that doesn't change the fact that orcas are highly intelligent and specialized hunters. If they can pin-point and target prey, why wouldn't they also target objects they might perceive as a threat? It is a logical theory to propose.
I remember reading something about one female orca being injuried by a boat and roaming around with a group she was teaching to wreck boats
This happened to a friend of mine on a small boat manned by two people. They were attacked at arpund 2pm by well over an hour by a pod of 2 adults and 3 juveniles. The adults didn't participate, just looked on. She said it was the scariest experience and thought they would die. They had to be rescued and towed to shore as the rudder had been ripped off and they were destroying the rest of the boat and literally playing with the wreckage
I can't imagine how terrifying that was. However, it doesn't sound like the focus was the people, but the boat. Maybe they're fascinated with the boat and are doing what they would do to learn more about it. They don't have hands, so using their mouths they take it apart. Yet, they're insightful enough to know that humans need to have a way to stay on the surface, so something is left, lifeboats so far unmolested. These beautiful creatures are quite the enigma.
@@erinmac4750 she said it was terrifying and from the way she described how they were being tossed about, seeing parts of the boat floating away and the sound of the orcas under and around the boat, I can't even imagine their fear
Welp, better stay out of their territories then
@@yeetnama9094 they're definitely making their presence known
They are animals, let us not make them seem as smart as us. They instinctively know that if they harm humans they are finished.
I, for one, welcome our new Orca overlords
Long Live Our Orca Overlords!!!
And if they need any human collaborators, I would be happy to assist them
I, for one, wish that humans were capable of original thought and had evolved beyond merely parroting out tired old phrases in the hopes of microscopic levels of attention.
@@meh3247 mimimimimimimi🤓🤓🤓
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@@meh3247 Oh wow, someone is trying to seem too cool for jokes in the hopes of attracting microscopic levels of attention
All great points, but one which seemed neglected is the timing. Yes, orcas have always liked stimulus and have in the past attacked vessels. However, the frequency and severity of attacks spiking suddenly after a significant drop in motor activities from the pandemic hints that they figured out we're the problem.
No, way! It's a game for them!
And so they decided to start attacking the least offending class of human vessels? The only class that is small and lightly built enough that they can actually damage. Pretty soon a sailboat owner with a rifle is going to end this absurdity.
@@charlesmartin1121 Yes, as you pointed out, they are taking action against vessels small enough to manage and are not wasting their time on things they can't.
And if you think returning violence is how to deescalate a situation I weep for your ignorance
@@gormauslander Aren't the Orca using violence? And keep your tears for yourself.
@@charlesmartin1121orcas can do attacks with multiple of them, they could eventually do some damage to some larger boats (not huge ones)
I'm SO happy you covered this !!! This is my ONLY animal channel and I love it.
Could it be the fact that Sailboat's are quiet and do not often use propellers so they are safer to attack??
They are proppelled by wind and sterred by a rudder so they look like a great target to safely play with
I'd watch 10 hours of Orca videos a day at this point. I'm fascinated by them
orca vids and cat pics. the only true justification for the existence of the internet.
🐙🤜💥🤛🐙 (and octo fist bumps )
Watch all
The videos you want or go se them in the wild promise you will never buy a ticket for sea world or any other marine park these intelligent emotional beings are still being exploited please look up the passing of Lolita in Miami
@@cristianasaras6898 the key stat being that orcae have never killed a human in the wild. Only in captivity. Which I'd say qualifies cleanly as self defense.
Me too!! Im obsessed with them!!
Do something about them being captured
I wouldn't say revenge, I'd say protect. Who knows the cruel things we've done to them that's stuck, taking their family members away, killing them. I'm sure that the trauma passes down generations and they're beginning to not want us around
Really? They are going to chase humans from the oceans? Good luck with that.
NOT strange at all During COVID illegal fishermen where harpooning them and using dynamite against them.
That's why they target certain boats.
@@FukaiKokoroI’m pretty sure they target certain boats because that’s all they can handle. Anything smaller? It’s probably a jet ski and way too fast to attack. Anything larger? Well I don’t think a pod of orcas can do significant enough damage to a cruise ship.
The whales got the job done in Maui.
@@GooglysaurOrcas can swim up to around 36ish mph. That's pretty fast. There's also videos of them catching up to jet skis going near 70mph.
Anyone serious about environmentalism needs to face the fact that a significant amount of environmentalism is just an outlet for people's hatred of humanity and themselves
Couldn’t agree more.
I don't know about revenge, but given what I know about Orcas I'm inclined to believe they know what they're doing and have a motivated reason for it beyond stimulation or territorial behavior. People don't get just HOW smart Orca's are; they're comparable to great apes in overall intelligence. They haven't been tested as much as apes for fairly obvious reasons so we don't know exactly how smart they are, but their social structures have depth and complexity comparable to neolithic humans. There's a good case to make for them having real culture and even language. Because of their aquatic habitat and lack of a means for complex object manipulation I feel like we tend to underestimate them. I feel that they might have a better grasp of how smart we are than we do of how smart they are. They certainly don't treat us like they do other animals, at the very least.
My point here is that these animals are straddling the barrier between animals and people. The idea that they're merely playing and don't understand what they're doing frankly sounds almost insulting to me. These creatures are intelligent enough to formulate, coordinate, and execute simple plans while hunting; it isn't much of a stretch to think that this is also an intentional plan with an intended impact. Exactly what they hope to achieve and why they're taking this specific course of action isn't very clear, but it seems far too consistent to be impulsive behavior to me. It feels very much like there's intentionality to it. In any case, I think they've made it pretty clear they are unhappy with human activity in their environment, and I feel we should respect that.
I agree with you and probably go farther as I believe they are as intelligent as humans, but a different measure and type of intelligence. Humans are the smartest animals on land, but know very little of the ocean and what it means to live in the ocean or what type of life they experience or how things are really ordered. These animals are the most intelligent beings that live in the oceans. The majority of the world is ocean so they actually rule the majority of the planet. To me they are sea people. They have larger brains, live longer lives ( I believe?), and have been on the planet longer than we have.
So what I'm hearing is that orcas might be the next civilization to evolve
"Real culture"? 😂
however, it's of note that these orcas are apparently mostly juveniles. that's something that makes me more inclined to believe it's playful behaviour or like "teenagers messing around". adults don't seem to engage in this kind of destructive behaviour nearly as much, even though they are much more powerful. others have said that a group of adults could much more easily bring down boats of even larger sizes, but they don't. it feels like they are just stealing rudders as toys, like the salmon hats.
@@brookehansen6973nope, I suggest you read again and try to take it seriously
It is kinda strange how tone-deaf scientists seem on this one. The behavior is patterned, systematic, and repetitive. Maybe we can't define one single reason for this behavior, but saying there is no reason at all just seems manifestly false. Based on the wounds of the orca, it looks like some members got hurt by boats, and now associate the boats with pain.
Ahha but sailboat don't slice up anything...
Is more like a riot at this point
Glad this video was made. Not only because I greatly enjoy this channel but also because I was wondering something similar. Seemed odd the amount of news popping up about aggressive orca encounters. Given how smart they are and how collaboratively violent they are, it didn't seem coincidental.
Whatever the reason for the sailboat attacks, these Orca are very fortunate they chose to do so today. Had they done this half a century ago or more, humans would have been of a different mindset. And that Orca pod would have been massacred.
NOT strange at all During COVID illegal fishermen where harpooning them and using dynamite against them.
That's why they target certain boats.
Really? Fishermen using sail boats was it?
Just wanted to express my thanks to the team that makes the videos for this channel. I love learning about science, astronomy and nature, and I love that there's an entertaining and digestible channel like this that I can watch. Fantastic job, everyone! And thank you for your part in making the world more interesting and for keeping my curiosity alive!
after watching that video on orcas, i have no problem thinking that they are doing this out of spite. i love them so much
After obsessively watching the Insane Biology of Orcas video, I can safely say that Orcas are the one marine animal that shouldn’t be messed with. They impress and scare me more than sharks.
Of course, no animal should be messed with. But that includes humans, who are infinitely more formidable than Orca.
The only thing that keep any large apex predator away from extinction is our mercy and also our understanding of their role in the balance of food chain.
I mean they eat sharks so I agree!
@@charlesmartin1121formidable? Homo sapiens is one of the most stupiest species on earth. Destroying and exploiting its own environment and still too stupid/greedy to realize the consequences. Doomed to go extinct
I think the biggest difference is most sharks aren't smart enough to "be mean" to other creatures "on purpose". Some might be aggressive or unpredictable, or at the VERY worst, mistake you for dinner and spit you out again when they realize their mistake. Orcas though? Definitely smart enough to bully other creatures on purpose, on a whim, if they choose. I fear and respect them like I fear and respect horses.
Social animals seem to mimic group behavior quite rapidly. Humans often mimic speech accent a bit, usually not even realizing it, just when talking to a person for a little while. We rescued a female 3 year old Yorkie, she always peed squatting for the week or so we kept her separate from our two male dogs at first. Then, a week or two after she adjusted and they lived together she started lifting her leg every time she peed like our other two dogs. Our first male dog grew up with two female squatters and he always squatted, though that might partially be a hormone thing. Then, years later we got a male dog that lifted his leg and then suddenly our old dog started lifting his leg. We always had around three dogs at various ages, and so they had some unique behaviors and rituals that got passed on. Then one got old and died, another died a bit early due to cancer and we couldn't afford to keep more than one dog for a little over a year for financial reasons. The one dog we had barely had time with the dogs that passed. Suddenly, all those unique quirks and rituals that got passes down for generations disappeared and never returned when we got back to three dogs eventually.
Anyways, all that nonsense anecdotes just for me to say that mimicking behaviors and fads, and doing so quickly, seems to be important for highly social creatures.
We should keep an eye on this situation as it develops, because if these incidents start affecting someone's profit margins these poor creatures are doomed.
For some nature is only good if it doesn't get in their way.
The prospect of orcas wanting to harm us is ten times more frightening than sharks.
I love this channel. It's educational and it's so well made. It invests you in the story withouth added drama and antropomorphosation of the animal. Also loved the extra video with orcas and humans working together. I got emotional at the end when we talked about Old Tom. He deserved better. Keep the great work going.
I don't appreciate how the narrator build that side story into a critical point, and then left everyone hanging. Turning it into a sales pitch for a subscription to Nebula. That was lame.
If you're going to translate "Gladis Blanca" at least do both words: White Gladiator. You may also notice that many of the other orcas has Gladis in their name, that's because they've all been termed Gladiators, and White just refers to her markings. There's also a Grey and a Black Gladiator, among others.
Gladiator in Spanish is gladiador.
@@Daniel-se3zm You can argue with the fucking zoologists who named them, tell them your google translate disagrees...
Okay so your Orca video is the best you've ever done. I'm here for this.
There may have been accidental injuries to the pod by similar vessels, or by people on such vessels. The orcas are not aggressive toward the humans, just the similar size vessels.
Wait, so what sailboat (specifically a sailboat) has pissed off the orcas to the point where they do something like this? This is clearly something that someone likely incited.
Boat propelers harming and killing orcas quite often. They are also make a lot of noise. It doesn't need a lot of intelect (which they have) for them to attack this part of the boat. If something would hurt dogs, and they could fight back after some time they would also start to attacking it. I don't know why so many people try to portiat it as misterious behaviour that we can't explain.
It's shown as something we don't understand just to avoid obvious solution - we should stop allowing to operate boats that's harming species that are protected
So far they have only attacked sailboats. No propeller, no noise, no pollution. That's where the problem is.
It is mysterious because Orca and humans have been encroaching on the seas for centuries all around the world, and yet Orca have always been surprisingly friendly. This behavior is something very recent and uncharacteristic of Orca, so it's likely that some kind of event has sparked a change.
sailors should have the legal permission and guns to kill any orcas that attack their boat. That is the solution.
I’ve never heard of that. Orcas aren’t dumb enough to get hit like that. Unlike other whales they can easily avoid propellers and I’m also not going to blame a person if that happens because if it does it’s always a accident
Itsa shakedown. They want the boats to throw them some easy tuna. It's basically trick or treat. They get candy or they take your rudder.
I loved the video! And liked how you explained nebula more than anyone else! I am curious now, thank you :)
couple weeks ago there was another group of orcas in the northern sea (i think it was norway). they did the same and "attacked" a sail boat
What drives two apex predators to work together? I don’t know, let me ask my dog.
UPDATE: My dog said the only folks who don’t know that mammals and even birds (Falconry) have been working together to hunt since before recorded history are the scientists who overthink it.
Haha. Good point.
Important note though, the dogs and birds are both land animals. She noted that they're not just apex predators, they're apex predators from completely different environments. This sets it a bit apart from the other examples you gave.
@@Jimera0 The Orcas of Eden prove the same point. Humans put themselves in a marine environment; two big-brained hunters worked together for mutual benefit. I would also bet that’s happened many times over thousands of years but it’s merely unknown to Western science.
NOTE for everyone astonished by predators of different species working together: When I was a kid, our Irish Setter and tabby cat used to work together to hunt squirrels and birds in our yard. The dog would point, as Irish Setters do, to mesmerize their victim while the cat would sneak up from behind and pounce. We would break things up when we caught them in the act, but we frequently found little carcasses in the yard. Thus I find it interesting but NOT astonishing when species cooperate.
Symbiotic relationships in species often occur in nature. But, only when the environment is similar and there's a common benefit.
The only thing that I can see happening is the orcas encircling fish, that we catch and in turn, feed them. However, it's highly unlikely because it's way more beneficial for us than it is the orcas. No need for symbiosis when they've already efficiently caught their food themselves.
The domestication of dogs from wolves came at the benefit of food for the wolves (most attempts at a hunt were unsuccessful) and awareness, and protection for us humans.
Where I live there are strict laws about staying away from the whales when you're in a boat and if they come up to you you cut your engine, all of the orcas around here are super super super friendly, I was once playing with a family of whales on a remote beach on one of the discovery Islands and when the whale watching boat came around the bend of another Island the big mail swam out and started doing jumps for them while the family stayed in the sheltered Bay, they were coming right up to me on a rock outcrop and they had a brand new baby, and this was few weeks after the other calf had died in our Waters and been carried around by the mother for weeks. They are not stupid by any stretch of the imagination, they are highly intuitive creatures and they have figured us out!!!
If they have actually 'figured us out' they would know the extraordinary potential we have for doing them harm, and stay away ftom humans and their vessels.
@@charlesmartin1121 they do know that we can do harm guess what there's a top predator in the ocean that's what this whole video of is about.
The thing you missed about my comment is that if they're in an area where they're being respected they're respectful back,, the big male that swam out for the tour boat and started doing jumps did so as part of a symbiotic relationship,, he knew what they were looking for and he knew they would leave the rest of his family alone if he entertained them,, no one sat down and explains this to the whale 😏
@@eyetrollin710 I don't understand your comment?
@@charlesmartin1121don't lie. You understand exactly what she said. You just didn't like the manner in how she said it.
@@ManplansGodlaughs If you are a mindreader, you should find another profession, because you suck at it. I was honestly confused about the exact meaning of eyetrollin's first sentence, and that was all there was to it.
There was a movie in the 70s entitled Orca where this happened... although in the movie, the orca DID eventually attack humans, too.
So what I do take from this is. Orcas attack boats yet not people and there's a pattern from one female in isolated population... call me crazy but had anyone just had the brilliant idea that these orcas simply see the boats as competitors for fish in the area and don't really understand the difference between fishing vessel and sailing boat?
Why do we always jump to 'It must be revenge' or other such nonsense when like 95% of the cases it is as mundane as it gets? Do people seriously need the divine punishment in their lives this much?
All just theories, no need to bust out the high horse. I agree though, taking out competition is what made sense to me too.
@@cyrus6379 True I suppose I am just annoyed. Environment needs scientific research not publicity hypes by bunch of activists. Forgive me the phrase but industrial revolution and it's consequences were a disaster for human race.
I think it's possible that one or more Orca had had a bad experience with a fishing vessel and now sees them as a threat. But Orca are also social animals that pass on their knowledge, so the fact that these attacks are spreading can be simply explained by Orca being influenced by others and by witnessing their behavior they are assuming that fishing boats or anything similar is their enemy.
The reason why the "see as competitor" doesn't sound particularly convincing is that Orca are known for being surprisingly friendly with humans, and attack on boats have been extremely rare, despite centuries of interactions. This means that Orca don't have a natural predisposition for attacking humans and boats.
That being said the idea that Orca are connecting pollution with humans and that they are taking revenge for that is also very implausible.
@@cyrus6379 I think the "high horse" got brought out by beginning the video with "eat the rich" and "clean up your act".
@@blizztedo7577Exactly! I found that portion of the video irksome.
Thank you for showing the original artist of the Be A Problem Money Can't Solve sticker! I know they've had a lot of problems with people stealing and selling their work on other products.
I think it has a lot to do with how we have used boats to capture their loved ones. It’s even been documented that some got stuck in nets while trying to steal their young, they were advised to cut them open and put rocks in them to sink them. They are smart and intelligent and have feelings too. Now they have figured out how to stop our boats. They love for about 150 years and communicate with eachother. It all makes sense of you think about it. They have been wronged in our past and those ones are still living to tell their tales.
I love your work! Thank you.
Very interesting video. As noted in video, the reason(s) for this type of behavior by Orcas will remain a mystery. In my opinion, Orcas should never ever be kept in captivity.
I heard the cause was illegal fishermen harpooning and dynamiting them
Maybe when AI manages to decode their language, we can try to actively communicate with them
Scientists: Guys it's done we can finally use this gadget and talk to the orcas as to why they are attacking the boats! Guys..?
USA: Where are the underwater oil reserves?!! Tell us now dammit!!! 🤬
Russia: Comrade Orca are you interested in wearing this trendy underwater cloths? What it is you ask?.. No worries this is the best russian brand of "бомба" you will look very cool just swim to this area here at that depth and time.. Yuri!! Bring comrade orca some salmon and vodka!! You like vodka yes? 😏
China: You spy with camera, or we eat yo!! 😡
Spain: So lets get this straight, the reason you attacking the boats is that there is a el niño who did what to you? 😱
@@romanhama5377 You should get a job in Hollyweird
To be completely honest, I would believe that this pattern we see from the orcas is similar behavior to the type of behavior the love for a football team and the "hatred" for another might be passed down from a father to a son. I think that an orca mother might have had a bad experience with human boating and as its calves grew they took off this behavior, in the same way, a strong political opinion often is standing strong within the same household. Furthermore, I believe that this might have become a sort of trend for the orcas, which might have just only been able to grow recently as I think norms become increasingly more important for the orcas, and in particular to stay with them, as their population size is decreasing which means cultural diversity decreases and the importance of sticking together increases as if you won't follow the norms you might find yourself more likely to soon travel your path alone. But, HOPE I kind off am wrong in this remark and that the orcas truly understand their actions, as I dream about orcas having a true understanding and self-awareness, partly so that we might not be as alone as we think we are.
PS. Also wanted to say that I really love your videos from the deepest depths of my heart, as they make you appreciate the hidden world around you which most might never get the opportunity to appreciate
My hypothesis is that orcas don’t associate boats with humans, but they have associated boats with danger or competition. If we put ourselves into the orcas’ fins, we’d probably not perceive humans on the boats, most of the times. We’d perceive the loud noises they generate, the underside of their silhouettes as they sail above them, and the impact they can generate on them when they hit other orcas or they trap their fellows with their nets (even if it is accidental, orcas cannot know that). Orcas cannot know that a human is steering the ship above, or using technology above to sail the ship. So when they attack a boat and a human falls in the water, it must be sort of an odd coincidence for them…kinda like demolishing a building and find out that somebody was still living there.
Being equipped with further knowledge from your “Insane Biology of the Orca” video, I’ve been so interested in this topic since it first hit the news. I thought it was exciting behavior being displayed and have been waiting for a video to explain what this uptick in attacks could really mean. I got so hyped to see you made this new video 😂! Thank you for taking the time to create it. As with all your video’s, I gained more knowledge and conjured up more questions about these AMAZING animals. ❤ Much love for sharing ❤
Something happened before that makes orca traumatized
BEAUTY ! Left me breathless TY.
I'd love to see a boat hauling a raft with a couple dozen rudders attached. Might help resolve whether playing with rudders is a reason
I rushed over to Nebula and watched the follow-up video. What an incredible story! You genuinely should pitch it as a script for a movie - with that video attached! 👏👏👏
I can recommend the TV series The Swarm and the book by Frank Schätzing it is based on, if you like heftier books.
Maybe they don't like keels, rudders, and hydrofoils that protrude like a knife and maybe sometimes silently surprises them and hits them under water?
I don't think sailing boats are silent to them. They certainly make some noise cutting through the water. I mean, if they can avoid collisions with other orcas and marine life they can probably detect a sail boat.
@@ColoredIceberg I have found articles stating that ocean noise pollution has caused many whales to become deaf and thus colliding with ferries and other boats. There are also a couple articles about high speed hydrofoil boats hitting whales including a hydrofoil sailing racing team just recently.
Yes I'm sure that by attacking minor vessels mostly used for recreational purposes by civilians they'll teach those humans. They know better than to mess with a larger ship.
It seems more plausible that they’re upset we keep taking their food. They’re AMAZING and BEAUTIFUL creatures.
How sailboats taking theri food???
@@maszkalman3676 Jesus…. 🤣🤣 wow
@@Four9sFineJewelry I'm asking a reasonable questions sail catamarans are totally incapable of fishing with nets.
@@maszkalman3676 perhaps, and this is just me spitballing here, Orcas are smart enough to recognize the HUMANS on the boats being HUMANS and, again just a theory of mine, they blame THE HUMANS for stealing their food? The boat has nothing to do with it.
Aww man, they really teased that cool story at the end and then paywalled it.
Maybe Wikipedia has a good article
Edit:
Killer whales of Eden, new South wales
That's the article name
As someone who used to live in Eden, yes it is a pretty amazing bit of history. I'm pretty curious to see this take on it. There are other videos out there on the subject (look for the doco "Killers in Eden"), but more on the subject is very welcome.
Darn right. Cheesy.
Is it possible either these boats maybe caught fish that the orcas considered theres or injured an orca. Very interesting how they target only specific boat type, and seeing them rip the rudder off is amazing
I also think that intelligent animals can feel things therefore can seek revenge. My dog sometimes resents me for being absent for too long or if I take her place on the couch or whatever. She acts different then. That’s so interesting to me. I definitely think people still underestimate animals and think too highly of themselves, like we’re the only one with real feelings and emotions. We forget how we are just another species on this earth, beings from flesh and blood just like orcas. Of course they can feel things, are you kidding me?
Love your video, thank you for sharing. 😊
I love this, I interview some of the most well known scientists, creatives & enthusiasts around the world every week.
I dont think this is a case of anthropromorphising animals, honestly.
Whales and dolphins are INCREDIBLY intelligent.
Maybe they're not doing it out of environmentalism, but imagine if millions of people came into your home and raided your kitchen, and harmed/killed your family or children or friends. I don't think you'd be happy about that.
Animals KNOW how to hold grudges. Even cats and dogs, you abuse a dog, they'll remember it. They might not get violent, some might just cower. Just like people.
Like I’m fairly certain that this is a case of non human intelligent animals who see boats in that area as threats, likely due to an orca being injured or killed due to a boat or it’s occupants.
It’s obviously aggressive since they attack the ship first, rather than the reverse
It’s pretty understandable and reasonable.
Plus, they probably see it like breaking things for fun
The amygdala of the orca brain is highly developed and very complex, more so than that of humans. The amygdala is the part of the brain related to long-term memory and emotional intelligence. I think it's extremely likely that the attacks are caused by one or more negative experiences of a single orca and that it is through social learning and facilitation that the behavior is spreading across that pod and to other pods nearby.
@@jtgdit's not aggressive because humans attacked first. It's defense and protection. Orcas have NEVER killed humans in the wild. I think they even noticed that it's dangerous to even try because of seeing how effectively we killed and wiped out other species
Not sure why people's egos are so threatened by the thought that other animals possess intelligence or emotions or consciousness. It is blatantly obvious that much of the animal kingdom possess these characteristics to some degree, and in some cases even matching or exceeding humans in some ways.
@@dustman96but but but, then that means I as a human am not special 😢 Therefore they're not intelligent
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Or it could be they've gotten used to people feeding them, and get mad when people don't?
Also I see other channels talking about nebula but I'm sure it's gonna be this one that eventually catches me at the right time for it.
Like Chuck McGill said: "He Orcastrated it!"
I loved your video and such interesting information! Thank you sooo much!❤❤
These is movie called “Orca” about an orca getting revenge on a men who killed both his mate and unborn child.
1 got shredded by a propeller, now that pod sees boats as mortal enemies.
I haven't clicked on a video this fast in a while
If i was to have a guess at why they are attacking the boats, i would guess because either they have witness a boat (fishing boat size) injure or even capture one or multiple orcas or maybe they have worked out the boats are also catching the fish they eat and now see them as rivals for food.
The fact the are attacking tourist and fishing boat may have something to do with the shape of the boat, as they seem to leave the rounded shaped life boats alone.
Whatever the reason, its definitely seems to be a message to humans from the orcas.
Whatever their motives, they are certainly going about it the right way by attacking the rudders.
So, question for any lawyers that might see this... Is it a crime to make a weapon and give it to a wild animal? If the animal later uses it to sink a ship? Asking for a friend.
As an orca... I approve of this message!
Take revenge? How about remove a threat, protecting their offspring/pack, considering past injury they attack a perceived enemy that once harmed them or another.
Probably returning the favor after being keeled, or rudder struck, by one
of those sailing fiberglass menaces not respecting Orca leeway rules.
funny thing is that we human is an invasive specie and non of us think that :)
Oh we do
Pretty sure the one man they repeatedly attack did something intentionally or unintentionally. If something that has never happened in a centuries suddenly start happening, there is usually a trigger.
Yeah if they would attack me there would e a trigger my weapon's trigger and problem would solve itself...
@@maszkalman3676 Well aren’t you a trigger happy one.
@@StormWalker101 Better a dead dickhead orce then my famiyl or friends or jsut anyone who comes with me and it's my duty to bring them back to safety isn't it?? and if someone or something is try to do the opposite there will be problems. Back in the day it wouldn't happen 300 times bet your ass on that :,D The second "encounter" as some green dłpshit put it would be the last not 300. and 3 of those were completely sink if there wouldn't be coast guard close enough they would be dead...
Could it be that recreational vessels more commonly carry sonars today? Sonar for finding fish, sonar for measuring depth and so on. The incredibly loud sound emitted by a powerful sonar might hurt the Orcas hearing.
My Son fishes the waters of Eden NSW Australia, he often has encounters with Orcas there always close, friendly and non threatening...they crew are very respectful with stopping fishing, cutting engines and watching the Orcas interaction closely making sure not to antagonise ..he believes its appreciated as they've never had issues with the killers of the sea
An Orca ("Purple Whale") named Porphyrios attacked boats in the Byzantine Empire in the 6th century.
And got hunted down as it should be...
I welcome our orca comrades to the struggle
Honestly, this sounds like a bunch of bored Teenage orcas who figured out that rudders come off of sailboats and think its the coolest thing ever.
I don't know why...but the 'fish hat trend' thing is killing me. 😭
Even Orcas are sick of our crap
Humpbacks methodically wiping them out might have something to do with it.. Not to belittle their trauma of surviving Orcas trying to eat them while they're young.. it's a complicated situation, far as I understand it, and we can't talk to either side properly yet, and physical intervention wont prevent hate.. Communication is key.
not wiping them out but just fuck with them for no reason
Some fisherman or other boating people with a boat with a size of about 12 meters probably mistreated an orca deliberately by attacking it or attacking it's child. In the case of fisherman they maybe did it multiple times to drive the orca's away from the catch. And the orca's started to correlate the boats to feeling pain. So they started attacking the boats and spreading the messages to others in the pod, who copy the behavior. Just simple behavior to annihilate a threat
That pod who helped the humans of the coast of Australia, I’ve been to see the jaw bone of the main orca of that pod which is in Tasmania. His teeth were ground down on one side from pulling the boat along with a rope!
Oh god... THEY WANT THE HOSTAGES BACK!!
The more I learn and hear about orcas the more I LOVE them!!!
Another great video.
I'm from the west coast, and has NO IDEA the Atlantic had Orcas! They're so intelligent watching them solve problems while hunting is truly incredible, they're the REAL apex!
Aquaman build up an army there🧜🏾♂️
Knowing what human are capable of when something pissed them off, a Europe wide man hunt is about to commence
They are giant dolphins so they are highly intelligent and probably correctly see humans as competition for the tuna.
Smart animals. They see us taking 100’s of tons of fish out of the ocean. I would be mad too
if Orcas were really that smart, they'd know what people tend to do with animals that pose a threat
Exactly. But don't tell that to the Orca fanboys and girls on this channel. To them even our aircraft carriers aren't safe from the wrath of the mighty Killer Whales.
"ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHA FUCKIN BOATS IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN OCEAN" Orca L. Jackson
I think it's pivotal to take into consideration, that Spain/(general south Europe) is hunting down fishes to the masses. Like, they're hunting down so many fishes that orcas might not have any left. Thus, sinking the ships.
As a sailor I can say that this problem with orca’s is not going to end well. The time frame of removing the original orca that was teaching the younger orca to attack boats has gone so anyone sailing threw the areas are going to protect themselves. 😢
I dare say the increased conflict between humans and big animals, is likely also because we hunt them much less than before, and not based on opportunity(proximity to human populations) but usually based on quotas.
Thank you for making that point. It is also because humans now feel constrained, by both laws and societal norms, from using force against popular (and in this case protected) animals that harm humans or their property. Had this happened several decades ago those Orca would be at the bottom of the Atlantic with bullets in their skulls. Animals losing fear or respect for humans may not be a good thing for us or them.