One expert says we don’t need as much as we think. The next says we need significantly more than we think. The misinformation and confusion is why people get further and further away from health. He mentions a “normal diet”, which isn’t helpful. Normal as in what? There is no way that Americans get the amount recommended, when we are all addicted to sugar, in all its forms…I love the channel and appreciate the information. My comment is really about all of CZcams.
Which lets you know that there’s no such thing as experts. You have to try it out yourself and see what amount is right for you and your activity level.
@@wtpiep82the problem is, health problems show up later. It's usually not immediately clear that we're doing the wrong thing. I'm not sure who to believe on protein.
He is 100% correct. A “normal” diet is for someone who lives a normal life. These are “Activity of Daily Living people”. The moment, the moment you pick up a weight, do a pushup or a pull-up, your protein demands increase. Jeff Nippard put out a post the the current understanding is 1.6g/kg.
He lost me the moment he said: you don’t need a protein shake that gives you 100g of extra protein….. what kind of shake is that? I get his point but it doesn’t sound scientific to me at all.
Don't think he knows what he's talking about when it comes to protein. As his message contradicts people like Peter Attia, Andy Galpin, Layne Norton, Andrew Huberman. All of which I trust to parse the data better. It's true not everyone is lifting weights. But I think it's accepted as fact that maintaining high muscle mass is healthy, particularly as you age. And sufficient protein is needed for that. 1g/kg is very much on the low end, especially if you're lifting regularly. 1.6-2.4g/kg I think is more in line with what those guys ^ recommend. Another reason I don't think he knows what he's talking about is at 6:34 he also seems to think that taking protein powder would increase your intake by 100g which is over 3 times what a typical shake would have in. So he's correct IF a shake contained 100g of protein we'd probably all be over doing it. But it doesn't.
I think there is more to this than excess protein stores as fat. Excess carbs also store as fat. Carbs are more easily converted to sugar, so if you have extra calories it would be better as protein. What I've heard about grams per day, he basically said the same thing, .8 - 1 gram per kilo bodyweight. You said the average person is eating 76g of protein, thats an average of 167lb. I'm not sure about the weight in the UK but average in the us is 181, doesn't seem like there is an over consumption to me.
i think doc is missing the point as the products are marketed to people who are training - the average person / diet isn’t geared for some levels of activity
Who this sales man why are people trusting him wtf .. steak eggs avoid sugar and process shit and water sleep sun light good people around that's fucking it
The vast majority of medical doctors: a) took like one class on nutrition as part of the degree and are not trained nutritionists. b) have never trained for hypertrophy. His argument about “we evolved to eat and get enough protein” is nonsense since bodybuilding and athlete nutrition has only been a thing in the last 100 years.
Protein is carbs with added nitrogen. So yes they are broken down into carbs when deaminated in the liver. Deamination does have an energy requirement so eating protein deposits less fat than eating a sugar. The failing as I understand it is that people talk about protein not amino acid balance. Proteins vary enormously in quality according to this balance. Meat and fish protein is high quality whilst a lot of plant protein from seeds are lower protein. Essential amino acids are the limiting factors on protein quality. I could go on. It depends on the narrative you are trying to push.
When I see content from this guy I often feel like the information is a bit vague and numbers are being plucked out of thin air to make a point with how rounded and sometimes arbitrary it feels. Not to say all of what he says is wrong, I think i just value the information from other sources more and put more trust in the advice of others.
Im curious - Does the Doctor actually strength train himself? Or has he trained anyone else? Or is he just quoting what someone else told him? He claims you can get "enough" protein from pasta. To get the equivalent amount of protein from pasta as you would in a chicken breast you would need to consume over 800 calories of pasta! 😂
He can say what he wants but I've lived it. Extra protein 100% made me bigger than i thought was possible. I was stuck at 215 for years then went on a 400g protein-centric diet and got up to 235-240
This! Recently I’ve noticed that when I eat more protein and less carbs and fibres, I gain weight by fat not muscles. So now my diet is about more carbs and fibre and normal amount of protein and fat. So I feel better and more energy now than before.
yo, I don't know. The messenger himself seems 'under-muscled' if you follow the concepts put forward by muscle-centric medicine. I agree that supplements aren't a good foundation. but health 3.0 means having more than just a lack of disease. This is a harmony
"There are very few people who are protein deficient..." Right there he shows his perspective. Just like all the government nutrition standards, he looks at protein intake in terms of the minimum required to prevent deficiency. Many, however, are more interested in the OPTIMUM, not merely avoiding malnutrition.
What you "need" was covered in a Layne Norton video, protein requirements are derived from agricultural sources on how little they can get away with, protein requirements are only there to make sure you arent deficient
He didn't say it's the same. He said "you're eating protein" which is factually true. You will gain muscle with plant protein but meat is superior and they both have different benefits besides protein like aminos in meat. I don't know what he means by a normal diet but a single 1lb pack of 90/10 ground beef has close to 100g protein in it for 600 calories more or less which is enough for anyone except people on roids pushing their limits. Bear in mind the protein recommendations are in fact based on lean mass not total weight as is most commonly promoted.
@@Z3d3z bioavailability of protein in plant based proteins is 20% at best. That means it's a terrible source of protein. You are putting protein in your body but it's not gonna do shit for functionality as he parades it to do.
Discussions like this around protein smack me of the “calories in calories out” model from the 80s. We aren’t lawnmowers. To ignore hormones, micronutrients, gut biology etc when talking about macronutrients is a huge step backwards. The guest talked about this concerning fiber. But the same is true for fat and protein. If iron levels, gut health and blood work remain fine, I say keep an ear open to new information, but keep doing what you’re doing.
This doesn’t make sense to me, who thinks you just pee out protein? Compared to other macros it probably causes the least fat storage, because the body has to break it down, but it doesn’t mean it’s negligible. eating 1.4g/kg is actually really hard to do with food, the idea that that is average? where is the data on that? Protein is highly satiating which is why it helps people who over consume delicious fats and carbs. Marketing is just a reflection of vogue ideas loosely based on the current thinking and actual science, who cares? You shouldn’t eat protein to the exclusion of healthy food and fiber, obviously you need both. The view of the public opinion here is this persons opinion, set up to market his banal perspective that for some reason puts two important aspects of diet against each other for no reason. It presents a false dichotomy, and is no better than what is being argued against.
I was vegetarian for 15 years for a variety of reasons one being my allergy to balsam of Peru which is present in many vegetables and my intolerance to oxalates and salicylates again found in veg, I had become very ill. I began to eat small amounts of grass fed organic meats and almost immediately had energy over the coming months as I continued my health has only improved. My bloodwork is now perfect. I put my comment in as it seems there is no , one size fits all" when it comes to nutrition...I ate what I thought was a great diet but it made me ill. My husband is still vegetarian after 49 years and it works well for him. There is no need for anyone to be rude about this. Also the animals I eat are sourced very carefully from a private Scottish hill farm that does not use antibiotics and all are grass fed. I agree that supermarket meat/ fish is not good
3:45 it's called gluconeogenesis. Gluconeogenesis is a pathway by which your body, in order to maintain homeostasis, converts protein and fat into glucose.
when all the products you buy in the shops are chock full of sugar, you're going to turn to protein to keep the calorie count down without feeling hungry all the time. It's not complicated. The quality of food available these days is terrible. It's basically you go 100% natural raw foods, or give up entirely.
Truth is that it makes you fat because it contains omega-6 in high amounts and if consumed too much it can outweigh omega 3 levels and that increases abdominal fats deposition and other visceral organs. Take note
The carnivore diet has been the best one I have had in my life. I was vegan for 4 years. Totally destroyed my health! Carnivore has brought back my health and even better then before I ruined it on the vegan diet!!
This you tube video is massively deficient in context. Every question that is asked of the doc. should be replied with "it depends" Nutrition is very simple and yet hugely complicated at the same time. You're better off getting your information from people like Ben Coomber (UK) and Dr John Beradi (US) of Precision nutrition. An honourable mention to James Smith too if you like your info with some humour and sarcasm.
Definition of roughage = any food. Doesnt matter what it is, you only absorbs nutrients. As for protein, there is no medical term for protein deficiency, because it doesnt exist.
Fibre is overrated. Increasing your daily protein to at least 1gram per pound of lean body mass is the easiest way to get to a healthier / ideal body composition. I’d argue the majority of people aren’t getting enough good quality protein. Then alternate between getting the remainder of your calories from mainly fats and then some carbs in and around your workouts. Focusing on unprocessed foods.
If you listen to everything you watch/read you wouldn’t eat or drink anything. Have a balanced diet and use a calorie calculator to approximate your intake. Eat whatever you enjoy as a part of the diet/lifestyle, simple
Cholesterol is the MOST misunderstood molecule in the whole of diet science. There are positive reasons why youve got a lot in your bloodstream. It serves over 200 functions in the body and is esential, so trying to cut it isnt the right approach. Its about how your diet creates a feedback loop that affects the processing of what you eat. There are two reaons why the exact same results mean two different things. Eg.. High cholesterol means that your body is able to cope with it using it. The other is thst it is being released into the bloodstream because it isnt being used properly.
This was not one of your better guests im afraid. I comsume a lot of content about nutrition and the best of the best are far more articulate, scientific and research backed in their points than this guy. He may be a doctor but he smacks of someone who researched protein from an outdated book in a week.
You don’t work out though buddy. If you have allot of protein and work out allot it’s good. Especially from the fact that if you eat a steak you will get allot more full than eating pizza. I could smash a large dominoes pizza but I could never eat the same calories in the same amount of lean meat and vegetable’s
Bartlett "Protein is making you fat not toxic shite food that dominates the food supply'. Spector "I get 30g for my breakfast" Reality cereal milk and a coffee 7g protein (a far cry and no where near enough), lunch 3 bread cheese lettuce cucumber and tomato salad cream sarnie pack of crisp and a mars bar (no doubt still feeling hunger pangs as no where near enough protein in the standard breakfast) anyway total protein for lunch 24.5g coffee and water 24.9g total. Dinner sausage chips carrots and gravy 27.5g total. Total protein there is 59g. Even at 0.8g of protein per kg of body weight (which is remarkably low ball, 1g to 1.5g is more appropriate depending on activity level). This leaves a considerable shortfall when we consider that the average man weighs 84kg needing 67.2g of protein (0.8g/kg). This leaves a shortfall of around 8g and this kind of malnutrition will create hunger which will probably result in unhealthy snacking. Would it not have been more appropriate for slave masters(errant influences) Bartlett and Spector to have simply recommended more protein for breakfast? Instead they maintain that it's the extra couple of eggs that maybe causing one to be fat as opposed to the inevitable snacking caused by an inadequate protein intake.
“Our ancestors got on with it..” is a logical fallacy. “… from normal food …” makes a massive assumption about the average diet. “… don’t need to function normally …” assumes good health, which is a minority in the US. … His arguments fall apart. … And then he says it is turned into fat. Yes, brown fat as opposed to white fat, look it up. Finally, the number of people consuming 300 grams of protein per day is minuscule, so his proposed problem awaits a reason to be important. He IS right about consuming too much, but he fails to detail the useful specifics.
I would like Tim to share his knowledge on gluten free foods and genetically modified foods. We're told Coeliac Disease is an auto immune disease. I think GM foods play their part more than auto immune 🤔
Eat real (fresh protein), not the powdered form!…… People on the carnivore diet (fresh fat and protein only), are proving to be healthier on all fronts!
The idea the protein from a grain is the same or of equal nutritional value as a steak or eggs is insane! Nowhere near as many essential vitamins and minerals in the grain, nevermind also not being able to be fully absorbed by our bodies if its wheat and causing gut lining damage, that leada to Celiac's disease and autoimmune problems in some people, and metabolic problems in most people.
Not a fan of this- absolute BS, frankly. Why is he touting only being concerned about protein until it’s a dire deficit?! To eat so much protein as a regularly exercising adult, you’d have to eat an extreme amount of protein to have it entirely convert to fat and sugar. Such BS!
Anecdotal fearmongering. It's impossible to overdose on protein. It doesn't "turn to fat". It plays a part in a calorie surplus, just as much as fats and carbs do. Each of macros, if eaten in excess will get attached to triglyceride chains (fatty acids) and stored as energy in reserve. It's insane to lie the blame solely at the feet of protein. Not sure if this guy is going to go onto kidneys but if he does - that's been debunked too by Dr Mike Isratael - a freaking PhD. The need to supplement protein as an emergency measure for old people would only be necessary if they had spent their lives lazy and sedentary and not eating enough protein! Gaaaaah my braaaiiiin 🧠💥 I do agree that the word protein is used and abused to make money. And yes we all need fibre. But this shouldn't add up to just demonising protein asking us all to be physically weaker 🤦 (I'm a PT in the field for three years, working with bodybuilders and weight loss clients before anyone tries to come in and argue with me - trust there's no point)
I’m amazed you still haven’t gone plant based Stephen based on your optimal living style. It’s a scary thought at first I know, but, I can guarantee if you really looked into the benefits you’d be on it in a flash
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One expert says we don’t need as much as we think. The next says we need significantly more than we think. The misinformation and confusion is why people get further and further away from health. He mentions a “normal diet”, which isn’t helpful. Normal as in what? There is no way that Americans get the amount recommended, when we are all addicted to sugar, in all its forms…I love the channel and appreciate the information. My comment is really about all of CZcams.
Which lets you know that there’s no such thing as experts. You have to try it out yourself and see what amount is right for you and your activity level.
@@wtpiep82agreed
@@hilaryinthewoods 100 can say what he said and there will be 100 saying the opposite. When I said “one expert” I didn’t literally mean one.
@@wtpiep82the problem is, health problems show up later. It's usually not immediately clear that we're doing the wrong thing. I'm not sure who to believe on protein.
They can't all say the same thing... they wouldn't get any clicks...
He is 100% correct. A “normal” diet is for someone who lives a normal life. These are “Activity of Daily Living people”. The moment, the moment you pick up a weight, do a pushup or a pull-up, your protein demands increase. Jeff Nippard put out a post the the current understanding is 1.6g/kg.
1.6g/kg is still way more than he recommends. His ethos of eating in line with insulin spikes is..MASSIVELY hyped.
Other doctors on the Internet say the exact opposite. It’s really hard to know who to trust on this one…
He lost me the moment he said: you don’t need a protein shake that gives you 100g of extra protein….. what kind of shake is that?
I get his point but it doesn’t sound scientific to me at all.
Don't think he knows what he's talking about when it comes to protein. As his message contradicts people like Peter Attia, Andy Galpin, Layne Norton, Andrew Huberman. All of which I trust to parse the data better.
It's true not everyone is lifting weights. But I think it's accepted as fact that maintaining high muscle mass is healthy, particularly as you age. And sufficient protein is needed for that. 1g/kg is very much on the low end, especially if you're lifting regularly. 1.6-2.4g/kg I think is more in line with what those guys ^ recommend.
Another reason I don't think he knows what he's talking about is at 6:34 he also seems to think that taking protein powder would increase your intake by 100g which is over 3 times what a typical shake would have in. So he's correct IF a shake contained 100g of protein we'd probably all be over doing it. But it doesn't.
I think there is more to this than excess protein stores as fat. Excess carbs also store as fat. Carbs are more easily converted to sugar, so if you have extra calories it would be better as protein. What I've heard about grams per day, he basically said the same thing, .8 - 1 gram per kilo bodyweight. You said the average person is eating 76g of protein, thats an average of 167lb. I'm not sure about the weight in the UK but average in the us is 181, doesn't seem like there is an over consumption to me.
i think doc is missing the point as the products are marketed to people who are training - the average person / diet isn’t geared for some levels of activity
I'm going to sit down and eat two ribeyes and eight eggs while I watch this.
Good, then you are getting the point. Get your protein from food.
@@waterflows9723 Spector said to eat "a little meat" and we can get our protein needs from pasta!😂
Who this sales man why are people trusting him wtf .. steak eggs avoid sugar and process shit and water sleep sun light good people around that's fucking it
The vast majority of medical doctors:
a) took like one class on nutrition as part of the degree and are not trained nutritionists.
b) have never trained for hypertrophy.
His argument about “we evolved to eat and get enough protein” is nonsense since bodybuilding and athlete nutrition has only been a thing in the last 100 years.
He's not just a doctor but also a renowned scientist.
@@agsrd4496 and?
I eat 2 lbs of beef and 8 eggs a day only and got a six pack, lost 50 lbs and hardly ever exercise. You got a gut doc.
carnivore brother lets go
Protein is carbs with added nitrogen. So yes they are broken down into carbs when deaminated in the liver. Deamination does have an energy requirement so eating protein deposits less fat than eating a sugar. The failing as I understand it is that people talk about protein not amino acid balance. Proteins vary enormously in quality according to this balance. Meat and fish protein is high quality whilst a lot of plant protein from seeds are lower protein. Essential amino acids are the limiting factors on protein quality. I could go on. It depends on the narrative you are trying to push.
Protein keeps you satiated longer which helps with calorie control. Not so fat & sugar. It can help people lose weight that way.
Who has a 100g protein shake??? 😮😮😮
He obviously never looked up any nutritional values of protein shakes. That’s where this “expert” lost me.
When I see content from this guy I often feel like the information is a bit vague and numbers are being plucked out of thin air to make a point with how rounded and sometimes arbitrary it feels. Not to say all of what he says is wrong, I think i just value the information from other sources more and put more trust in the advice of others.
At least he didn't say we should completely do away with it. What I get from here is to just find a good balance
Im curious - Does the Doctor actually strength train himself? Or has he trained anyone else? Or is he just quoting what someone else told him?
He claims you can get "enough" protein from pasta. To get the equivalent amount of protein from pasta as you would in a chicken breast you would need to consume over 800 calories of pasta! 😂
He can say what he wants but I've lived it. Extra protein 100% made me bigger than i thought was possible. I was stuck at 215 for years then went on a 400g protein-centric diet and got up to 235-240
We didn’t “evolve to become Omnivores”. Biologically, we are head to toe herbivores. We are behaviorally omnivores.
This! Recently I’ve noticed that when I eat more protein and less carbs and fibres, I gain weight by fat not muscles. So now my diet is about more carbs and fibre and normal amount of protein and fat. So I feel better and more energy now than before.
The way you say "the bigger the channel gets, the biggest the guests" is ASMR to my ears 😍 all jokes aside, thank for your videos !
yo, I don't know. The messenger himself seems 'under-muscled' if you follow the concepts put forward by muscle-centric medicine. I agree that supplements aren't a good foundation. but health 3.0 means having more than just a lack of disease. This is a harmony
"There are very few people who are protein deficient..."
Right there he shows his perspective. Just like all the government nutrition standards, he looks at protein intake in terms of the minimum required to prevent deficiency. Many, however, are more interested in the OPTIMUM, not merely avoiding malnutrition.
What you "need" was covered in a Layne Norton video, protein requirements are derived from agricultural sources on how little they can get away with, protein requirements are only there to make sure you arent deficient
Dr. Tim Spector doesn't strike me as a man in glowing health. Is he?
He looks pretty healthy for 65
He's 93
As soon as he said the protein in rice and pasta was the same as meat, he lost all credibility.
He didn't say it's the same. He said "you're eating protein" which is factually true. You will gain muscle with plant protein but meat is superior and they both have different benefits besides protein like aminos in meat. I don't know what he means by a normal diet but a single 1lb pack of 90/10 ground beef has close to 100g protein in it for 600 calories more or less which is enough for anyone except people on roids pushing their limits. Bear in mind the protein recommendations are in fact based on lean mass not total weight as is most commonly promoted.
Apparently, the best protein is in Quorn. I don't like it very much, but studies say the body breaks that one down and utilises it most easily.
@@Z3d3z bioavailability of protein in plant based proteins is 20% at best. That means it's a terrible source of protein. You are putting protein in your body but it's not gonna do shit for functionality as he parades it to do.
Discussions like this around protein smack me of the “calories in calories out” model from the 80s. We aren’t lawnmowers. To ignore hormones, micronutrients, gut biology etc when talking about macronutrients is a huge step backwards.
The guest talked about this concerning fiber. But the same is true for fat and protein.
If iron levels, gut health and blood work remain fine, I say keep an ear open to new information, but keep doing what you’re doing.
Calories in vs calories out is fact. Let’s not be silly with comments like that.
This doesn’t make sense to me, who thinks you just pee out protein? Compared to other macros it probably causes the least fat storage, because the body has to break it down, but it doesn’t mean it’s negligible. eating 1.4g/kg is actually really hard to do with food, the idea that that is average? where is the data on that? Protein is highly satiating which is why it helps people who over consume delicious fats and carbs. Marketing is just a reflection of vogue ideas loosely based on the current thinking and actual science, who cares? You shouldn’t eat protein to the exclusion of healthy food and fiber, obviously you need both. The view of the public opinion here is this persons opinion, set up to market his banal perspective that for some reason puts two important aspects of diet against each other for no reason. It presents a false dichotomy, and is no better than what is being argued against.
I've been eating all wrong for 82 years!? I'd better jump on the latest diet fad so I don't suffer a premature death!
I've literally healed myself eating more meat and fish...
Yeah w the antibiotics in them
Lmafooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was vegetarian for 15 years for a variety of reasons one being my allergy to balsam of Peru which is present in many vegetables and my intolerance to oxalates and salicylates again found in veg, I had become very ill. I began to eat small amounts of grass fed organic meats and almost immediately had energy over the coming months as I continued my health has only improved. My bloodwork is now perfect. I put my comment in as it seems there is no , one size fits all" when it comes to nutrition...I ate what I thought was a great diet but it made me ill. My husband is still vegetarian after 49 years and it works well for him. There is no need for anyone to be rude about this. Also the animals I eat are sourced very carefully from a private Scottish hill farm that does not use antibiotics and all are grass fed. I agree that supermarket meat/ fish is not good
@@TylerDurden-FC99 read my comment below. I don't know why you are laughing. I was in my bed for almost a year at one point
@@Tankwart024 nope, no antibiotics...read my comment below
3:45 it's called gluconeogenesis.
Gluconeogenesis is a pathway by which your body, in order to maintain homeostasis, converts protein and fat into glucose.
So by extension, if your body has plenty of glycogen, is it going to bother to covert protein?
@@juddvansickle In that case, If you eat to much protein it will first try to eliminate the excess.
when all the products you buy in the shops are chock full of sugar, you're going to turn to protein to keep the calorie count down without feeling hungry all the time. It's not complicated. The quality of food available these days is terrible. It's basically you go 100% natural raw foods, or give up entirely.
I listen to Mike Mutzel.
Truth is that it makes you fat because it contains omega-6 in high amounts and if consumed too much it can outweigh omega 3 levels and that increases abdominal fats deposition and other visceral organs. Take note
1.8g of protein per kg of bodyweight whilst in a calorie deficit is working well for me
Half way through his most recent book … wreaks of vegan agenda.
Normal. “A Relative term”.
Hearing a lot of those, in this episode.
The carnivore diet has been the best one I have had in my life. I was vegan for 4 years. Totally destroyed my health! Carnivore has brought back my health and even better then before I ruined it on the vegan diet!!
Same. Though I sometimes do eat shitty carbs- but I’ll fast and exercise the next day like nuts. Works for me.
Vegan isn’t a diet it’s a lifestyle choice. You were plant based (at best) and clearly for the wrong reasons.
He is a vegan activist so not surprised.
DOAC, please interview Alan Aragon. He has very deep insights if you read his book “Flexible Dieting”.
I’ll listen to the people who don’t look like they’d get their ass kicked by a child
This you tube video is massively deficient in context. Every question that is asked of the doc. should be replied with "it depends" Nutrition is very simple and yet hugely complicated at the same time. You're better off getting your information from people like Ben Coomber (UK) and Dr John Beradi (US) of Precision nutrition. An honourable mention to James Smith too if you like your info with some humour and sarcasm.
What protein shake gives 100 grams of protein???
Definition of roughage = any food.
Doesnt matter what it is, you only absorbs nutrients.
As for protein, there is no medical term for protein deficiency, because it doesnt exist.
Fibre is overrated. Increasing your daily protein to at least 1gram per pound of lean body mass is the easiest way to get to a healthier / ideal body composition. I’d argue the majority of people aren’t getting enough good quality protein. Then alternate between getting the remainder of your calories from mainly fats and then some carbs in and around your workouts. Focusing on unprocessed foods.
If you listen to everything you watch/read you wouldn’t eat or drink anything.
Have a balanced diet and use a calorie calculator to approximate your intake.
Eat whatever you enjoy as a part of the diet/lifestyle, simple
Basically …. It’s trial and error and there’s no such thing as experts
I think I'll take my advice about protein from the thousands of shredded guys eating plenty of protein than this old fat man thanks
Disagree with most of this guys points
Cholesterol is the MOST misunderstood molecule in the whole of diet science.
There are positive reasons why youve got a lot in your bloodstream. It serves over 200 functions in the body and is esential, so trying to cut it isnt the right approach. Its about how your diet creates a feedback loop that affects the processing of what you eat.
There are two reaons why the exact same results mean two different things.
Eg.. High cholesterol means that your body is able to cope with it using it. The other is thst it is being released into the bloodstream because it isnt being used properly.
I love how all these rando youtuber commenters know more than an actual Doctor. 🥴
You mean informed individuals? There are plenty of doctors making strong counter arguments.
This was not one of your better guests im afraid. I comsume a lot of content about nutrition and the best of the best are far more articulate, scientific and research backed in their points than this guy. He may be a doctor but he smacks of someone who researched protein from an outdated book in a week.
🤔Don't waste your time on this one.
my life has improved 100% going carnivore two years +
Waiting for Layne Norton's video on this
And I’d suggest everyone watch it!
You don’t work out though buddy. If you have allot of protein and work out allot it’s good. Especially from the fact that if you eat a steak you will get allot more full than eating pizza. I could smash a large dominoes pizza but I could never eat the same calories in the same amount of lean meat and vegetable’s
Bartlett "Protein is making you fat not toxic shite food that dominates the food supply'.
Spector "I get 30g for my breakfast"
Reality cereal milk and a coffee 7g protein (a far cry and no where near enough), lunch 3 bread cheese lettuce cucumber and tomato salad cream sarnie pack of crisp and a mars bar (no doubt still feeling hunger pangs as no where near enough protein in the standard breakfast) anyway total protein for lunch 24.5g coffee and water 24.9g total. Dinner sausage chips carrots and gravy 27.5g total.
Total protein there is 59g.
Even at 0.8g of protein per kg of body weight (which is remarkably low ball, 1g to 1.5g is more appropriate depending on activity level). This leaves a considerable shortfall when we consider that the average man weighs 84kg needing 67.2g of protein (0.8g/kg). This leaves a shortfall of around 8g and this kind of malnutrition will create hunger which will probably result in unhealthy snacking.
Would it not have been more appropriate for slave masters(errant influences) Bartlett and Spector to have simply recommended more protein for breakfast? Instead they maintain that it's the extra couple of eggs that maybe causing one to be fat as opposed to the inevitable snacking caused by an inadequate protein intake.
You guys are actually saving lives !!! Actual super heroes ❤
Eggs, meat and fish.....ditch the shakes. Shakes are processed garbage.
ITS MINERALS NOT VITAMINS OR PROTEIN
“Our ancestors got on with it..” is a logical fallacy. “… from normal food …” makes a massive assumption about the average diet. “… don’t need to function normally …” assumes good health, which is a minority in the US. … His arguments fall apart. … And then he says it is turned into fat. Yes, brown fat as opposed to white fat, look it up. Finally, the number of people consuming 300 grams of protein per day is minuscule, so his proposed problem awaits a reason to be important. He IS right about consuming too much, but he fails to detail the useful specifics.
You know... I think sometimes it's better to just not answer a question when you don't really know anything
I would like Tim to share his knowledge on gluten free foods and genetically modified foods. We're told Coeliac Disease is an auto immune disease. I think GM foods play their part more than auto immune 🤔
Apples, oranges in the intro
This guy's credibility was lost when he said too much protein turns into fat or sugar. Excess calories do NOT protein specifically.
Eat real (fresh protein), not the powdered form!…… People on the carnivore diet (fresh fat and protein only), are proving to be healthier on all fronts!
FACTS & TRUTH loved the no hype discussion with Dr Spector keep those videos coming please of great value.
His facts and his truth contradict other people's. There can only be one truth.
He's chatting shit most people in the west at least are way low on protein & way high on carbs
Dont listen to this guy. Who have 300gs of protein a day. Any protein consumed still has calories.
It's called eating too many calories
No muscles - no authority on the matter.
I want to scream duhhhhhhhhhhhjj right now!! Come on Man…
The idea the protein from a grain is the same or of equal nutritional value as a steak or eggs is insane! Nowhere near as many essential vitamins and minerals in the grain, nevermind also not being able to be fully absorbed by our bodies if its wheat and causing gut lining damage, that leada to Celiac's disease and autoimmune problems in some people, and metabolic problems in most people.
Not a fan of this- absolute BS, frankly. Why is he touting only being concerned about protein until it’s a dire deficit?! To eat so much protein as a regularly exercising adult, you’d have to eat an extreme amount of protein to have it entirely convert to fat and sugar. Such BS!
At least he speaks in g/kg, not in g/football fields
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Yeah no
Anti meat propaganda
Is Tim Spector a dietitian?
Grifters
Some spoofers on this podcast
if you consume 2grams of protein per pound of bodyweight you can build lean muscle mass without even going to the gym. i did it, it works.
Anecdotal fearmongering. It's impossible to overdose on protein. It doesn't "turn to fat". It plays a part in a calorie surplus, just as much as fats and carbs do. Each of macros, if eaten in excess will get attached to triglyceride chains (fatty acids) and stored as energy in reserve. It's insane to lie the blame solely at the feet of protein. Not sure if this guy is going to go onto kidneys but if he does - that's been debunked too by Dr Mike Isratael - a freaking PhD. The need to supplement protein as an emergency measure for old people would only be necessary if they had spent their lives lazy and sedentary and not eating enough protein! Gaaaaah my braaaiiiin 🧠💥
I do agree that the word protein is used and abused to make money. And yes we all need fibre. But this shouldn't add up to just demonising protein asking us all to be physically weaker 🤦
(I'm a PT in the field for three years, working with bodybuilders and weight loss clients before anyone tries to come in and argue with me - trust there's no point)
Please interview Cristiano Ronaldo someday 🙏🏻
Well....he's vegan so there's that.
The only thing with Tim, he's the guy who big up the vaccine but database says otherwise.
Says the guy who doesn't look like he has ever used a bench or squat rack.
Huhhhh??? Gah He just sounds less credible than Dr berry, Chaffee, baker and all them dudes.
This guy…… lol
I’m amazed you still haven’t gone plant based Stephen based on your optimal living style.
It’s a scary thought at first I know, but, I can guarantee if you really looked into the benefits you’d be on it in a flash
This guy is pretty clueless wheres the studies ?