Which Memory Kit for AMD Ryzen 5000? 4000MHz C15 Tested
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I really like that Ali isn‘t stretching his videos, if it‘s not necessary,
Straight up Information and that’s it!
And as always great shots and editing :)
Is that his name? I didn't knew.
Agreed. Whenever i see youtubers milking a single bit of news for 8 minutes they get a downvote from me.
Agreed
That's why people like him and are subbing
Gamer nexus dont know how to make a 6m video.
tech tubers make long videos for ads.
Relevant video from Gamer's Nexus also showing performance improvement of 4 DIMMS versus 2 DIMMs. ( czcams.com/video/-UkGu6A-6sQ/video.html )
For reference, both the 2133 and 3200 configuration here were tested with 4 DIMMs, the 4000MHz kit was tested with 2 (4000MHz C15 is only available in 2x8).
So potentially there would be a slightly larger performance difference of 4000MHz if across 4 DIMMs.
The recommendation still stands though, 3200-3600MHz kits around C15 will get you most of the way there.
AMD Ryzen: 4 vs. 2 Sticks of RAM on R5 5600X for Up to 10% Better Performance / Gamers Nexus . huge boost with 4 sticks ram
There is a 4x8 4000Mhz CL15 kit available. Check Gskill.
Since 4 DIMMS can net around ~5% performance increase, and the 2 DIMM 4000mhz is about the same performance as 4 DIMM 3200mhz, then there should be a ~5% performance increase with 4 DIMM 4000mhz, no? I doubt it's actually that simple in practice but I think it's worth testing. I understand you were probably almost done with this video when the gamers nexus one came out though.
@@Petey5 It should be close to that, and exactly.
Benchmark again at 720p, you will see noticeable gain. Running an OC Micron E-die and OC Samsung B-die at the same frequency and best timings, both are the same at 1080p. But at 720p, you get 10% performance uplift from Samsung B-die. Same story for these RAM kits.
Thanks for Also showing some manually tuned secondary timings, I got a few percent improvement in games (like 4-5% or so) when going from 3000CL16 to a new kit 3800CL15 with manually tuned subtimings. For me tuning ram is fun, so good to see it'll have some effect as well for Ryzen 5000!
This is what I have been waiting for, thanks Ali 👍
Thank you for running these tests, this will help me immensely when purchasing new memory.
The information I was looking for from start to finish, thank you!
Thanks a lot. I've been waiting for this
Love the content, keep it up! Love your approach for all your recommendations, having price/performance being very important 👌👏👍
that B roll of the RAM holding one another up by the notch gave me a n x i e t y
it's ram, not a cpu
That's nothing watch LTT.
I mean the worst you're gonna do is scratch the useless heat spreader.
The content I was looking for, thanks!
First one to the memory speed test on Zen 3, well done and thank you!
Thanks so much, this is the exact thing i was looking for!
By God EXACTLY the answer I needed, instant sub.
This such a useful video. A potentially complex problem boiled down to an easy answer, and a succinct explanation as to why.
Answering so many questions in 5 minutes thank you so much!
Thanks for the straightforward great video!
Much needed review - thanks!
Great video and interesting results. Thank you!
Apparently you can get (up to) ~8% more performance in games when using 4 RAM sticks or 2 dual-rank sticks (most 16GB sticks are dual-rank).
As someone who has an ITX system and is most likely going for 32GB RAM (it will also be a development workstation, not just a gaming machine), I'm very glad to heard about the dual-rank thing...
Yup this is correct. So does that make this video invalid then? xD
AMD Ryzen: 4 vs. 2 Sticks of RAM on R5 5600X for Up to 10% Better Performance / Gamers Nexus . huge boost with 4 sticks ram
To clarify, new to PC building are two sticks of 16 GB better than four sticks of 8 GB. Edit- Aim to get 5600x
@@JHayler7 If you are not on Ryzen 5000 it wont matter. Dual channel is fine and optimal.
Nice! A video showing a step by step memory overclocking would be very helpful for nubes like myself!
As well as overclocking the infinity fabric!
I've been researching this and an aio cooler for 5950x ncase build. Your channel is a goldmine of quality content!
i like the fact you put 2600 there, so i have really accurate feeling of the scale. love my cpu.
These are the tests we're looking for. Well these and maybe ones that go even deeper into RAM confugurations (2x vs 4x, single vs dual rank, GDM on and subtiming tweaking) and the Dynamic OC feature from ASUS.
Thank you!
Just wanted to say thank you for the info offered once again on your channel. You strike an excellent balance between the info and down to earth aspects of value for money related to costs benefit and returns.
Your channel rocks.! Always straight to the point, clear and concise.
wow, you explaning is actually so relaxing to listen to, loved it! Very clear explanation!
Thank you it was just the video i needed to begin looking for compatible kits for my next 5900x :)
Thank You, this is what I waiting for.
thank you so much. I was wondering the same thing.
Man that’s such a helpful video like always.
I been trying to find out lmao, thanks
Yea I really was thinking about buying 4000mghz ram... 😅😅😅
@@kiinqdoge5611 so what did you decide? I got 3200mhz Dominator platnium with 16 cas.
Preordered the 5900x and gonna preorder the 6800xt with it.
I think i ma keep the ram if its really just a 1 to 2 fps difference lol.
@@mandalmandal4593 I got the 3700x
@@mandalmandal4593 and I bought a b550 motherboard today
@@kiinqdoge5611that's good, I bought the x570, gonna build a mini itx build.
Cougar mini itz case, 5 arctic p12 quiet fans, corsaid 240mm radiator, and 2 x 1tb pcie 4.0 m.2 ssds in raid.
Ma build cost me more than $2000 so far, and still i need to buy the gpu, 6800xt soon, maybe wait for the 6900xt even.
I feel like i spent too much so why use a 5 year old ram, i think i will buy a 4000 mhz just because i want everything to be new.
All but the psu, its only 2 years old and still kicking good.
this is very good, simple, to do point and informative as usual, nice
Straight to the point. Thank you!
Excellent review. Thank you very much!
Just subbed off this info, straight forward and to the point
Respect to you sir, for covering this info! You are the most useful tech channel.
this exact video is just what I've been looking for, thanks!
No problem!
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Apparently you can get ~8% more performance in games when using 4 RAM sticks or 2 dual-rank sticks (most 16GB sticks are dual-rank).
Perfect explanation. Significantly important for the moment.
Very, very informative. Thanks for the info sir.
Thanks for this review. Been a lot of talk about this since 5000 release and considering the cost of 4000 MHz I will stick with some slower ram.
Great video as always!
Great video! thanks for testing.
And the 3200 cl14 kit I bought in 2017 for Zen1 keeps on truckin'.
3200 cl14 attached to a ryzen 2700x here, still probably won't upgrade my cpu for 2-3 years. Running an RTX 3070 now, it feeds it perfectly at 2k/4k.
damn, how much u pay tho, back in 2017 they were like $180
@@yung_joshi9851 $140 at MicroCenter back in Feb for 2700x.
@@realforest oh I was saying the ram
@@yung_joshi9851 $150, a few weeks later the prices shot up, I bought the kit before the Ryzen CPU's were launched so I had it ready to go.
Hey Ali, a lot of people (myself included) are building or upgrading around now, and with the new AMD CPUs out, I was wondering if we could see another motherboard roundup? You make some of the best itx roundups around, and I'd love to hear your thoughts! Cheers and thank you for all your amazing content.
I discovered the performance gain while building a Ryzen 2200G PC back a few years ago. It was a budget setup with only DDR4-2400 and when tested with two sticks and four sticks the FPS went up around 5 FPS which was huge for an APU. The ram was also ran at 2666 later on which pushed it to around 8 FPS total gain.
Awesome! Many thanks ali!
You need to test memory configurations again when the 6000 cards come out and you can run a smart access memory system.
what a short and helpful video! :-D
THANKS!!
SHORT AND DIRECT!
Dude, your videos are the most meaningful pc videos for me, no kidding, every other guy deviates left and right, showing shit no one wants to see.
Great job, keep it up, you just saved me $311
Great topic, thank you 👌
The man has spoken 👍🏼 nice video like always bro
Love the content Ali
Thanks for testing
Thanks for this video !
I'm a huge fan of this video, when I was looking late october I was first looking at 400$ royals, then really thanks to people on facebook groups and discords really homed in on 3600 Tridents with 16-16-16-36 timings and c16.
Back then we didn't have videos like this :)
Thanks for this video. Glad I just went with a 3600mhz CL16 kit. (Still went for the Trident Z Royal Silver RAM though 😅)
5:25 saw the new pump and the 3080 now, can’t wait for the new vid
Brilliant!! I was about to OC my ram. But after watching your video, I won't. Thanks!
Man this was such a relief to hear. I ended up purchasing 16gb Ripjaws 4000Mhz C15 and returning that kit for 32Gb Ripjaws 3600mhz C16. Same price, but with my ITX motherboard I’m limited to two Dim slots. Good to know it’s not a significant difference.
Such a relief that my newly bought 3200 cl14 ram will do the trick. Thank you!!!!
TNX man. really useful straight up information without too much of the annoying loud Trap beats music on the background. Although it would be nice to see the red cat more often :)
Ali, love the videos, best itx channel on YT.
One small nitpick with this vid though, at 2:12 your explanation of why the fclk is half of ram speed is wrong. It's not because of dual channel but because ddr4 is double data rate, meaning information is sent to memory twice per cycle. Dual channel has more to do with the bandwidth than clock speed. Not a big deal but it might lead people to interpret things wrong if they ever get into 4 or 6 channel memory configs.
Keep the itx content rolling, I have an ncase m1 because of your channel.
As someone who has 4x8GB 3200MHz CL14 already, this makes me happy.
@@nicksjuice699 Or 2x16 GB. Dual-rank is the reason.
@@445Matty not all 2x16 is dual rank. all 4x8 is dual rank :)
Good stuff, thanks!
nice guns dude. keep on pumpin
very interesting! how would this fair though on applications like after effects and 3d modelling software, where you are constantly shoving things in and out of the ram?
For this test did you use one of the 4 approved mobos that AMD has everyone using for CPU benchmarks? I know many of the boards currently out require a BIOS upgrade to get optimized CPU performance from the Ryzen CPU's
THE review I wanted to see !
Finally someone that tests these new chips to the max of their ability !
How about testing more usable memory sizes? I'd like to see tests that are more useful for workstations, such as having a total of 128 GB ECC memory.
I rlly do appreciate including the 3600
i think the main difference is real time response from when the application opens and how fast your actions are registered. i used to have ddr4 2400 cl14 ram and now have 3200 cl14 ram and it seems that actions are just slightly faster on the new ram to where i can notice a difference. both kits were 16gb as well and i didn't think there was a major difference back then but now that I've actually felt the change i can say that it does actually matter. maybe not as much going beyond but it did at the lower end of frequency speed.
Would you please do a studio tour? I'm fascinated by your great aesthetics in your videos and want to see where you record etc.
Click the join button, I've already uploaded one for members :)
Thanks for the video! I bought 16Gb of 3200Mhz memory when I built my Ryzen 2700 system on a Gigabyte x470 MB. Nice to know I can drop in a 5600x - 5900x without concern for memory!
subscribing very straight forward -_- unlike the other tech vloggers ehem....
Yeah I still use my 3200MHz CL16 boosted a bit to 3333MHz CL16 and it works like a charm. The boost gave me a hundred extra points or so in Cinebench.
You make so good videos so you convince me to enable adverts in your channel :)
Thanks for the info bro
Thanks man!!
Nice, Thanks for making this video! I`ll hang on to my 3200mhz ram.
Not bad getting your fix of OT on a Sunday.
very impressive as usual. tks 👍
Hey, have you seen Gamer's Nexus' video on RAM with Zen 3, and how 4 sticks gets 2-8% better performance than 2?
At the end it mentioned that Wendel from Level1Techs said he found that a 2x16gb kit was performing best for him.
I'd really love to see an addendum to this video given mini-ITX almost always only ever has 2 DIMM slots. It definitely made me worry a little bit - it would feel bad to be leaving that significant of performance off the table.
It's not just zen 3 every cpu gains when populating 4 ram slots. Sadly Steve just discovered hot water
4 ranks is better, not necessarily 4 sticks. 2x16 dual ranked is actually better than anything on a good mini-itx motherboard
@@ananasw all ram slots populated is better than just having 2 sticks. Also most people don't even diferrentiate between dual vs single rank some even think dual rank is dual channel
@@mesicek7 no it depends on the topology of the motherboard. The fact that people can’t tell the difference doesn’t cancel the fact that 2 x16gb dual ranked is better
Thank you, just I needed to know.
Built a Ryzen 1700 with 3200mhz c14 in summer 2017, just threw in a 5600x into the old mobo yesterday for £200 thanks to a bios update and now lets me run the same ram kit at 3666mhz c16 nice and stable, awesome value upgrade for a 5 year old build!
This literally answered the questions I had about the new ryzen, I wanted to buy exactly the Gskill 3200C14 2x16GB Rams
wanted to get the 4000Mhz ones, but could not find them available anywhere, so i went for some 4x8 Gb gskill 3200 C14. really glad that i did so :)
Perfect. Thank you.
Great info, thanks Ali!
Now to try and actually buy a 5600x...
Good luck!
@@waxsta Thanks! UK retailers were out of stock 10-15mins after release, hoping for some stock to come in soon.
@@Skyfiah yes. Within 5 minutes of sales going live. HOWEVER, I managed to buy the ryzen 9 5900x! Just installed it this afternoon. I had to call up the store because the website crashed and my basket was emptied, even though I added it and was at the point of payment. They honoured my basket thankfully
@@waxsta Oh congrats! What did you upgrade from? I was trying to buy from Curry’s as I get discount there but their customer support isn’t as helpful unfortunately
@@Skyfiah If you're still looking - i wouldn't be surprised - both ebuyer and overclockers have stock of the 5600x and 5800x
I decreased my latency from 60ns to 57ns just by lowering the trfc value from default 600 to 350 with my bdie kit and 5900X. I should be able to get it even lower. Great vid!
finally i needed this
I think it is a good think that zen 3 cpus are not as effected by ram speed as older parts. It is good to know that even a 3200mhz ram will give you 95% of the performance compared to faster speeds.
Some of the older parts, especially zen and zen+ ones, had some issues reaching higher speeds while also being very memory and latency-sensitive. Mine 3200mgz hynex kid could not reach advertised speeds on B450m-pro4 with 2600 and I had to settle for 2667mhz with tighter timings.
Picked up a 5800X at launch and some 3600mhz dominator sticks (cos budget). As soon as I saw that thumbnail I was all "oh what have I done....." That AMD slide about "4000 being the new 3600" had me worried.
Well, worry no more, you're here to put our minds at ease! Thank you, this is just what was needed.
Can you do another build with all the new hardware that has been coming out?
100% The best video on the subject. I really feel like a newb could understand whereas other people would confuse me on the subject and ive built multiple PC in my life.
Not even 1 second into the video and all i see is vascularity... Ali jacked as ever!
Just watched Gamer's Nexus testing different kits. Steve's also talking with Wendell from Level1Techs. The best option seems to be 2x16GB Dual Rank or alternatively 4x8GB Single Rank kits. In contrast, with a 2x8GB Single Rank kit, no matter what speed and latency, you'll going to be relatively slower.
THIS is the information I was looking for and that no reviewer was giving ! Absolutely nowhere in amd's promotional material did they say anything about increasing the Fclock and I was going insane.
Thanks for the information really looking at new faster memory once I get my hands on a 5900x or 5950x but also as odd as it may seem the video by gamers nexus actually does show something strange happening with 4 sticks vs 2 sticks ram just as a thought.
Thanks for theminfo, but you only did optimizing for the 4000 kit. Maybe you should have done the same for the 2133 and especially the 3200 as well. How much could you gain from optimizing the 3200 kit?