History of AMD CPUs As Fast As Possible
Vložit
- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- Long ago, AMD was a second-source supplier for Intel, but soon started developing CPUs in-house and came up with some major innovations of its own...
Dollar Shave Club link: dollarshaveclub.com/linus
Follow: / linustech
Join the community: linustechtips.com
Licenses for images used in this video: creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
The Intel logo, Pentium, and Intel Inside are trademarks of Intel Corporation.
The AMD logo, Athlon, Phenom, and AMD FX are trademarks of Advanced Micro Devices. - Věda a technologie
"Let's hope the Zen architecture saves them."
*nice*
Zen is the best thing ever happened to the world of PC's
@@sheltonpicardo2161 yeah the pricing is just heavenly
@@alihassan4060 also the new athlons for broke people... It's also amazing
@@kumbaya69421 oh yeah I'm rocking it with a 1050ti I'm going to upgrade to a 2600
Ryzen is the best
Hello from 2019. AMD is doing great with *Zen...
(*All Ryzen variants)
Yep 3600 working well.
John Yang NO zen 3
@@poust5898 it's zen 2, the 2xxx series is zen+
Yeah, now AMD is king
And here we are with AMD Epyc being crowned as king of server CPUs
AMD reverse engineered INTEL from a photo??????
I couldn't study math even from the textbook
Makes me think of how I built together stuff instead of reading the manual.
sidharth cs They paid engineers $100 an hour to do it.
I am wonder why not bought 1 and examine it under microscope, by the way they save money by just studying picture.
@@thatsawesome2060 If I remember correctly, they took that photo during the conference way before those chips hit the shelves
amd is part of the reaon I want to go into computer engineering and computer science
2020:
AMD for gaming/streaming and working
INTEL for cooking
*cooking steak.
*Cooking ramen
*Cooking egg fried rice
Intel for gaming as you can always cook food if you get hungry during a gaming session.
@@standupyak meh
So, AMD :
Made the fist 1GHz processor
Made the 64-bit architecture
Made multiple cores a thing
So, really, regardless of which side you're on, we owe AMD.
Intel: made the x86 architecture
@@electronichaircut8801 Obsolete. Next !
@@anant6778 But it is what drove the computer industry forward.
@@electronichaircut8801
Intel also made pipelining .
@@electronichaircut8801 To which AMD also made contributions I guess
Imagine telling Linus in 2020 there will be a “consumer cpu” with 64 core and it would be amd not intel
Still more believable than saying Intel would make i7s with more than 4 cores
@@d9zirable Did intel ever said that? They must've really Forgotten the I7 6600u but the reason Why it has 2 cores is because it's an "Ultra low power" CPU When it's an i7
@@d9zirable The Core i7-980X was a 6-core CPU (the very first consumer one), and was launched in March of 2010.
It also cost more than a grand...
@@frozenturbo8623 Some modern _Celerons_ have 4 cores, though.
@@alexander_strachan those are atom based cores they are very weak but still better compared to the 7th gen i3s and i5s
Linus in 2015: *wants better single thread performance instead of more cores*
AMD in 2019: Hey, want 32 cores?
Hey want 64 cores?
@@101-cesaraugusto7 you want 128 cores?
@@pret5675 you want 256 cores?
@@dxnjhull you want 512 cores?
@@giannis0802 you want 1024 cores?
Watching this in May 2020 when AMD is DOMINATING Intel lol
And in June Intel said benchmarks should not be done 😂😂
Then came Zen 3😂😂😂....now it's crushing intel🤣🤣🤣
@@aashaykadu9154 RDNA2 is out and they beat Nvidia too
watching this in November 2020 and shit has gotten worse for Intel 😂😂😂
@@jodinha4225 well.....close. But not exactly. They beat the RTX 3090 but the 3080 and 3070 is still decent for the price point as it's competitor is still 80 dollars more expensive (with the extra VRAM on the 6800 it is worth it) for roughly the same performance. And there is always that performance tilt whenever software comes out that tilts performance in the favour of Nvidia mostly. And newer cards are also rumoured to be coming out on the side of Nvidia (3050,3060ti,3080ti). So while AMD has the upper hand on non-rtx gaming on paper at least, I wouldn't exactly say their goose is cooked like intel.
Now there is ryzen.
Lmao why are yall still replying to this.
yep
ryzen was released in like i think 2016 and this video was made in 2015. oof
Isn’t ryzen a part of AMD?
Cicero 219 right before my comment was posted someone wrote one that said something like “AMD is better than Ryzen”. I guess after I wrote my comment he deleted his?
@@dark_ops1651 LMAO
Manh I'm here from the future, ryzen 3rd gen is released and intel is on its knees.
And now, 4th generation!
Lol. On it's knees? They are still making a far higher profit, and still the fastest in gaming. And there's a new process node coming next year rumored to be up to 5.5ghz out of the box. AMD best not get complacent because "muh 7nm" because Intel has reckt them every single time they caught up
@@eclipsegst9419 Yay Intel! +5% performance for $200 more!
more like +15% better latency and +15% better single and quad core for +30~50 bucks. well worth it to have the best.
@@eclipsegst9419 czcams.com/video/QZAqV6yo2vo/video.html
Use it well.
2019: AMD is demolishing intel
Stop it he is already dead
2020: Ryzen 4000 is announced. Intel starts writing their own will.
intel literally just had a record breaking quarter. They aint getting demolished by anything anytime soon.
@@Ahmedinhooo AMD already "bulldozed" Intel see what I mean 😂
@@Ahmedinhooo but , can they lower their processor price?
The fact Ryzen is dominating there own brand line has shown a lot in the last few years.
Can we get a history of ARM next?
+BOBdotEXE ARM was pushed by a company working from a garage^^
+MatzeGamer which makes it even more interesting !
+BOBdotEXE there is a video already about ARM
Khalid Abu Shawarib Not about ARM's history.
+MatzeGamer like everything haha
2015 Vs 2019.....AMD making a killing let's hope AMD keep it up
oh yeah they did
Who else is watching this after the release of Ryzen Threadripper?
No, I'm watching this while 2nd gen Ryzen CPUs are still floating around the media.
me
Sashank Sharma-- I'm currently revisiting a lot of my fave TechTubers old content, and going through these comments have reminded me how happy I am AMD was able to weather the storm of shady practices Intel slammed them with that almost sank AMD as a whole. It's crazy it's taken this frigging long for AMD to shake that massive setback off & finally be able to come back stronger than ever. I mean, seriously, it's amazing to see Intel against the ropes after so many years of complacency stemming from their lazy attitude that they've adopted after nearly wiping out their competition with their filthy ass underhanded practices. Intel is actually acting AFRAID of each AMD unveiling now!!!
I'm watching this after the Threadripper 2 leaks.
DestroyerJ69 G4L price announced and confirmed
AMD = I am King
CYRIX = I am dead
INTEL = I dont Die
ARM = I am coming
IBM = I jumped to Servers
APPLE = I make Trash Cans and cheese grater
Via=What was I doing again?
Zilog = I liked it 8 Bit
Motorola = Am I'm a Joke to you?
MOS = Yes, you are to me
Oh and:
Texas Instruments = Well, we should have sticked to calculators.
Oh, and before I forget:
IBM = We formerly did something with computers and processors. What was it again?
@@theq4602 kotlek geteyefo
@@acmenipponair What's MOS? Didn't even know TI made processors except for specialized modem chips you'd find in routers etc.
Oh and don't forget PowerPC and MIPS
3:48 that bent pin is killing me
There's two of them
+TheElectric Miner 5
OMG LINUS FIX IT PLS OR DELETE VIDEO IM GONNA DIE
Why? It'll fix it self once it goes into the socket.
yea that cpu is screwed. quite a few bent.
Forgot to mention the dirty Intel games which contributed massively to the decline in AMD market share.
no I mean intel paying to stock Intel over AMD products, which completely demolished AMD over a period of two years.
www.reuters.com/article/us-intel-court-eu-idUSKBN0EN0M120140612
+Zoe Guerra Intel has been under numerous investigations from various companies over their dealings. They even engaged in corporate sabotage.
When the case Zoe talks about happened, AMD was actually out-innovating Intel and had better CPUs. Due to Intel's actions though, AMD was pushed out of the market, continued to run into more and more debt and had no money to develop new competitive product lines, had to give up its FAB and has been on the verge of bankruptcy ever-since. In retrospect that EU fine was too little too late, it couldn't stop Intel turning the CPU business into a monopoly.
Good God Zoe...
Makes me wonder, how come there wasn't a class action lawsuit?
Little did Linus know that Ryzen stormed the market and even came out with a threadripper running up to 16 cores.
Papi John now up to 32 cores lmao
@@AlejandroBertinelli what 32 cores? You mean 64 core EPYC? :D
Epyc aint for gaming dunce
3rd gen 16 core mainstream 4.7 ghz ABSOLUTE UNIT.
It is interesting how 16 cores was amazing just 2 years ago.
Now we start to see 16 cores on mainstream systems, without the need to go to HEDT motherboards.
Meanwhile when intel dominated we had 6 years of quadcores ...
I would LOVE to see this updated.
It's been almost five years.
Now we only need a tech quickie on what fabs are.
xplus93 that sounds fabulous
Faps
GlobalFoundries, Samsung, TSMC, ...
ohhh so thats why when I download a Linux distro Its says amd64
yep. same thing happened when i was installing ubuntu to my chromebook.
Even Windows use the term 'AMD64' for all the 64-bit O/S files.
+Sumit Chakraborty Those are still x86 based cpus, but with 64-bit instruction set.
There is no such thing as x64. It's always been x86. That's the architecture. There are two main versions, x86_-2 and x86-64. Last two numbers signify the bits. x86-32 is often abbreviated to x86 while x86-64 is said to be AMD64 or x86-64 as is.
*BUT*, AMD64 is NOT the same thing as x86-64. Intel64 is Intel's version of the AMD64. There are small differences but otherwise they act similar so they are considered the same for most intents and purposes, so AMD64 stuff works on Intel64 99.99% of the time.
The relatively common exceptions, and pretty rare at that for traditional desktop/laptops, are the architectures. They are as follow:
Advanced Reduced instruction set computing (RISC) Machine [aka ARM ] , Power Architecture, and Intel Itanium.
And their variants as follow:
ARM (32bits), ARM64; Performance Optimization With Enhanced Reduced instruction set computing (RISC) [POWER](32bits), PowerPC (64bits), IA-64
Intel Itanium, or IA-64 was the original success for intel to the 32bits x86, but it never cached on (mainly because it was a different architecture), and thank god it didn't.
ITK r/woooooosh
2019: Ryzen 9 3950x is released.
... Yeah AMD is doing great, it could take Intel a while to catch up.
Sedij doubtful. 10th gen will all have hyperthreading so the 3950X will be the best consumer cpu for content creation but most intel cpus will probably be better for games
@@animalcell3872 cope more
Croatian Eagle wtf does that mean..?
@Dorian Grey To be fair he's not wrong. Hyperthreading across the board is happening. Good to see competition from both now.
@Dorian Grey It won't help? Are you sure? 8 Core 16 Thread i7 for $360. That's competitive! I love AMD, but don't count Intel out just yet. Intel is in fact a much larger company. This isn't a battle of titans, its titan vs a midget
2020....its funny when you know the outcome
even funnier now than it was 10 months ago.
now it's even funnier when you consider amd absolutely obliterated intel and somehow matched with nvidia (minus ray tracing, dlss). But don't worry amd is also developing fidelityfx (their version of dlss) to counter nvidia. This will end the monopoly of nvidia in the gpu market.
@@grossly820 it already has ended the monopoly in most budget areas regarding GPUs to be honest and this is such a good thing for the consumer. I just hope intel won't stay far behind forever in the CPU department cause there is a good chance AMD will be the new Intel if their new price premium on the 5000 series CPUs are any indication.
Let us hope, AMD can catch up with Zen in terms of IPC, because monopoly is bad for us consumers.
If you call it a monopoly. I mean, if Wendy's has better food for the same price as McDonalds, it isn't a monoply. McDonalds needs to rethink their food, it isn't a monopoly if the other company screws up.
Well AMD's been forced to stick with the 32nm process for a while now. Intel has had a monopoly on 22nm and now 14nm processes.
AMD has been producing 14nm for a short while now. I think they've been using Samsung's process. This was announced a few weeks ago.
Of course this was for their GPUs. In order to make the break into the CPU market they'll actually need to build their own factories again and invest more in R&D.
AMD seems like they're stuck in the low end of both the CPU and GPU market at the moment. They don't really have any chips (AFAIK) which can compete with the high end Nvidia or Intel products. Thankfully their pricing reflects their low end performance, but they are cut out of a significant portion of the market until they can catch up in performance.
History of Nvidia and ATI/AMD GPUs
+DH Shawon Hello again. ,':)
xD
+DH Shawon Add 3dfx in there since they were pretty much the pioneers of real 3d stuff.
2015 Linus: "Let"s hope the 'Zen' Architecture saves AMD."
2020 Linus: "Dr. Su! Stop kicking them! They (intel) are already dead!"
This aged well.
Lol 🤣
Yeah lmao considering the sleeping giant intel has been awoken
@@chudthug it's too little too late. AMD looks to good to beat.
@@SterlingSword98 no
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to see it to believe it. Lol. Cheers
It's november 2020 now
Amd appears to be on top
Best processors
Best graphics cards
At low prices
"Graphics Cards"... "Low prices"...
AMD FX6300 6 core user here!
Same here :D
+TheFlacker99 (Flak) 6100 + A4 4300m in the laptop
+TheFlacker99 (Flak) Raise that 5 CPU bro!
Amd fx-8350 user here (8 cores)
+TheFlacker99 (Flak) 4350 user
I have a FX 8320 @ 4.4ghz and I've been wanting to switch to a 6 core intel processesor because Intel is way better. But, now I'm gonna just wait it out to see if Zen is good.
Also, those old Athlon CPUs, GOD are they awesome! The Pentium 4 was just no match for Athlon 64s and 64 X2s. Kinda like how AMD isn't a match for intel nowadays...
+IRNatman I'm also looking forward to Zen, even though I read they will be DDR4 compatible only? Either way if they perform good, prices could drop a lot both on AMD and Intel chips. Which is always good for the consumer and PC enthusiasts.
same just at 4.3 ghz here.
same just at 4.3 ghz here.
len5465
Well said! Competition is good for everyone. If AMD can be competitive again, prices will drop and CPUs will advance quicker, like in the Athlon 64 x2 days. It forced Intel to get off their asses and make the legendary Core 2 CPUs.
yeah I still use an Athlon 64 X2 4400+ in my 2nd-ary pc
Damn. That was back in 2015.
I remember the release of the Zen Architecture. I was sceptical and was happy with my Intel PC.
Then I gave AMD a chance with a 2600x... Damn it is good. AMD really did something great.
I hate corporate thinking. "Shit, they're seriously out-pacing us technologically. What do we do? ... wait! i've got it! we'll just pay their customers to buy only from us! Then, when they're cut short of their money, we'll slowly take the lead again in R&D and leave them in the dust! HAHA!"
Seriously though, fuck intel. And fuck Nvidia, too.
More like "fuck capitalism". If the main motive is profit, that's usually what you'll get. Even AMD in the end, that's all they want. They just don't do illegal ways to achieve it.
Everyone says competition is good for the consumer. Well, that really is not true unless all you think of is in a box. It's terrible for the environment and a tremendous waste of resources, time, and human effort. You basically got two companies researching the same shit to keep catching up to one another for money. And when (not so much an "if" because power concentrates naturally) a monopoly forms, all the R&D, the progress, and research stops. Because the profit motive makes it that since competition factor is no longer a thing, the best way to achieve that profit is to simply increase the price of your products as high as you want because there is effectively infinite demand.
Infinite demand is part of the reason why markets fail in some industries and why designation as "public utilities" are a thing. supply and demand is a model, not the rule. The reason I'm mentioning this is because CPU's are pretty much a necessary commodity nowadays, as in the sense of communications, water, food, and everything else.
Cooperation is way better than competition because resources can be pooled and be far more efficiently allocated. The problem with this is that it can lead to collusion [doing good to those involved but hurting all else] or backstabbing [hurting one and benefiting the other] under capitalism. The latter of which happened to AMD as explained in this video (although that isn't really cooperation as much of a licensing agreement). Cooperation can work however in any system that is not capitalism.
That ain't corporate thinking. That's your mind on capitalism. No amount of state regulation statism or right-libertarianism will change that as long as our fundamental system stays the same. You want to get rid of this? Then your only choices are fascism or socialism, both or which are better but for starkly and contrasting reasons and approaches different reasons. Also feudalism, but there isn't any serious traction for that these days.
I'd be damned if anyone reads all of this tbh.
read all of it
MeGusta GameStation Communist detected
@@PFAlt We work with the best system, and until we find one better than capitalism, we'll stick with what we've got.
@@PFAlt I read it
I know this is the history of AMD, however I feel like you missed a massive segment of the AMD timeline by skipping the incredibly shady smear campaign paired with bribery that Intel did shortly after the K8 processors came out. Intel payed manufacturers to use their processors as much as possible while publicly bashing the superior K8 processors to the point that most people assumed that Intel must have been superior, I'm sure that had a pretty big impact on AMD as a whole and may have helped contribute to that albatross of owning too many fabs bringing AMD down.
+iDeNoh But Linus is sponsored by Intel so he won't say it.
+iDeNoh Minus the buying out manufactures, the other techniques are used tons. look at the whole Apple pc vs windows pc adverts that went on for ages taking the piss out of windows :/ Most companies do not fight fair. AMD also had more problems than just intel to deal with at the time, mostly them trying to chew more than they could eat :/
+Lucas S I'd totally forgotten about my main point when I commented on this, but do a quick search on google for "Intel Compiler cripples AMD CPU", this was the main dirty bit that I wanted to bring up, Intel was caught using horribly inefficient code to cripple AMD performance on any code compiled using their compilers. From what I understand they started doing this shortly after K8 was launched, and have since received a cease and desist. The worst part? As far as I am aware *they are still doing it*.
***** I did a quick search, noone says it happens for sure. just that they think it happened. couldn't find a reliable source to confirm anything, and i don't wanna point fingers without having hard evidence to back up that point. but yes it is possible that it happened
Lucas S Not sure how to link in youtube comments so I'll send you a message, but essentially there is a reddit post with a dozen or so links that provide information about this, as well as one from the FTC back in 2010 documenting how intel is now required to disclose the fact that its compilers discriminate between intel and non-intel CPUs.
I guess Sempron wasn't important :c
+Lati Sullivan neither was Duron
+Lati Sullivan Or Opteron.
+Lati Sullivan or Turion..
+LadBooboo The naming scheme lmao
+Lati Sullivan Sempron was basically amd's version of a celeron processor. Cheap cheap cheap. And it show's on both of them.
My first AMD CPU was an AMD K6-2.
My previous CPU to that, was an oddball clocked "150mhz" Intel MMX in a Packard Bell.
Based, mostly on pricing, my home systems have always been AMD.
Wow. I never knew AMD was so incredibly innovative. We’ve all benefited from this market’s competition - Including Intel
I miss the days when AMD was thriving. They brought so much cool tech to the CPU market. But Intel has a lot more money, and was able to pull ahead in sheer performance again. I'm looking forward to seeing what AMD comes up with next, and hopefully it will beat Intel on price/performance ratio just like before.
Remember the AMD 386 DX-40, or the 5x86-133 that ran great at 160Mhz? They were monsters in their time! And I've seen several of those AMD 9080's on arcade boards, still working to this day! Space Invaders was one example.
The first AMD CPU I ever had was a 20Mhz 286. And I stuck with AMD until this year, when I moved to an i7-4790k.
+Maxxarcade Hey Maxxarcade, small world. I've been in the AMD camp for a similarly long time, however, in the past that didn't stop me from owning the odd Intel CPU here and there when a particularly attractive one came out. The nail in the intel coffin for me however was when I bought the massively expensive P4 3.0Ghz which had a huge thermal throttling problem. Due to Intels f**k you attitude about it at the time, I will probably never own another intel CPU again, throwing a few hundred bucks down the drain leaves a sour taste for a long time. Anyway, really hoping the Zen is something special
+arcadeuk Funny you say that, did you see my PC Upgrade Epic Fail video? Luckily I got a new board and CPU, and the system is great now.
I've watched all your audio vids, but not the PC ones, I will check it out
Eeeewwwww, a brony
+Michael Tarantolo So?
shit let s wait for full HD
+Petar-Vertex It's on. :D
+Chiro thanks bro for letting me know! :D
Hahahahahha :D I already watched it in 1080p. :D
+Petar-Vertex you welcome
I gotta admit.....brother, you REALLY get down on the specifics without being too complex. You break things down to the nuts and bolts of it!!! THANKS!!!
In 2020, AMD's Zen processors are leaving Intel in the dust!
The PR rating system didn't begin with the Athlon XP, it began with the AMD 5x86 in 1995, with the 133 MHz 5x86 claimed to perform equal or better than a 75 MHz Pentium, thus it was marketed as "PR75+". Cyrix and NexGen also used the PR system on their CPUs, so it was not exclusive to AMD.
Love your videos :D
+Ben G Hate your videos
+Christo Frank Well.
you make great videos
+vwestlife I'm a new sub, and I really enjoy your content too.
Single core performance is key as most apps and even the OS have not yet fully been optimized to take advantage of the multi-threaded cores with an even displacement of processes. But let's face it AMD was just ahead of its time and still is as lazy programers can't seam to be able to utilize all cores evenly.
It's much harder to produce robust multi-threading software than most folk might think: more complexity, risk of running into deadlocks and race conditions etc. That's why as a programmer I'd rather code single-threaded, well-tested, easy to understand applications -- with an optional capability to run the same simple program two or four times simultaneously (task-/process-level SIMD). It's not optimal for multi-core CPUs, but it's so much simpler and more elegant.
+Deepee Ayadges this, one hundred times
If you're using a chip with hyperthreading (i.e. 2 threads per core) that comes to a requirement of 2 cores. Congrats, you need a dual core.
Not really, most games and softwares require a quad or dual core. And even if it's just one high powered core it won't really be good in other softwares.
Yes, but AMD started producing 6, and 8 core CPUs that were as strong as intel's 4 core CPUs. Even if the game/program uses 4 cores evenly (most don't) an intel CPU would still be twice as strong as an 8 core fx chip. (Because of double single core performance and the 4 wasted cores in the fx chip)
Amd just started throwing more cores in CPUs for marketing, because in benchmarks that use all the cores evenly it would *_look_* like their CPUs were on par with intel's CPUs, and tons of people fell for this.
First off, great video!
Just 2 things to note: at about 2m10s, he says "adding floating point capability". I assume he was referring to the 3DNow! extension to x86, but this makes it sound like K5/K6 didn't get an FPU until late in the game, when they supported it all along.
Also, the socket shown there is Socket 3. K6, K6-2 and K6-3 all used Socket 7 / Super Socket 7 (same socket, updated platform, AGP, etc.)
I'm still using 2005 Athlon X2 64 till this day on my home theater PC
I'm still using 2009 phenom II x3 710
Ancient Wheel-- My sons PC is currently running my old Phenom II 955 Black Edition cpu with 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 2400 RAM and an 8GB rx470, and it runs games like Metro: Last Light, Doom 3, Left4Dead 1&2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Borderlands 2 and so many others SURPRISINGLY WELL at 1080p! For awhile I had thought about upgrading it with an 8350 or somesuch, but honestly, it does so well that I'll just move it up to an AM4 like mine once he really needs a more powerful rig
I was given a pc with a 2005 intel core 2 duo
@@urdaddywingnut7820 parenting done right
@@juanjo55lol--???
If amd puts out a cpu that beats the 4790K in single core performance, i will rethink my plans on using it in my new Workstation.
This is another issue, sadly expectations from amd, as shown in he comment are now so low, since that chip we've have the 4790k and now the 6700k, both of which improved upon the 4770k in about 5 percent increments. I'd love for amd do give the z170 i7s and the 5820k on x99 a good run for there money, but sadly I don't think they will
+lbochtler They don't have to topple the 4790ks single core performance. If they are within 10 or 15% of the 4790k IPC wise but unlike the 4790k zen comes with 8 true cores and 16 threads in total. Not to mention the fact you can still oc zen to match the 4790ks IPC.
+hussein hussein just stop
Xbox GT: xJ33Px Go home penguins, you're drunk.
+hussein hussein Having 8 cores is just pointless, most programs don't use more than 4 cores. having extra cores won't help what so ever. and reports say that zen is worse than sandy bridge, but that's rumours we will find out soon enough. Really they have to beat the new skylake processors for them to catch my attention. they can stick 20 cores on this thing but if it doesn't run IPC as well then forget it
Intel is just lazy nowadays with no competition from AMD...
PC MASTER RACE That "monstar 8 core 5GHz!!1" CPU is just a bit faster than an i3,thanks to its clock
Then AMD fanbois come with "DX12 will work better for 8 core CPUs!!1" without knowing that it's NOT an 8 core CPU
Lol
PC MASTER RACE AMD can still compete on the gpu market that's why each year way better gpu's come at better prices while on CPU's each generation means only 10-15% better performance because it's an Intel monopoly
iCallOfDutyDog yep my i3 4150 (only a dual core with HT) can beat AMD's 6-core and even 8-core CPU's in gaming
Honestly the only reasons why I'm in Red Team is because of Dual Graphics and more cores for a lower price. But that won't last long if they don't allow Dual Graphics with at least an R7 260X soon or if i5s keep beating the FX CPUs. In fact, I was looking forward to a Zen APU more than the CPU cause it addresses both of these but idk what the AMD executives are thinking.
Honestly the only reasons why I'm in Red Team is because of Dual Graphics and more cores for a lower price. But that won't last long if they don't allow Dual Graphics with at least an R7 260X soon or if i5s keep beating the FX CPUs. In fact, I was looking forward to a Zen APU more than the CPU cause it addresses both of these but idk what the AMD executives are thinking.
Damn, I love the wealth of info these Techquickie vids provide. Just wish I could remember it all.
I recently bought the 3600x on sale for cheaper than the 3600; it was 30% off. I love it; super fast, quite cost effective, single thread performance is great with precision turboboost. I'd highly suggest that if you want to upgrade your build you go with Ryzen if you're on a reasonable budget. They are without a doubt the best bang for your buck that you can get these days. Perfect balance of price performance and actual performance.
Still rockin the Phenom II x6 1055t to this day.
+Robb Hays Me too
+Robb Hays Gave mine to my Bro a few years back when I upgraded to a FX 8320. Really hoping Zen brings enough performance increase for me to upgrade to that.
That was the last AMD CPU I have purchased, along with the 6750, that oc's past 6770's.
Housemate still using it to this day.
+Robb Hays Same here.
No compelling reason to upgrade just yet.
+Robb Hays I am running Phenom II X4 965 @ 3,8GHz and it still performs quite well, altough it sometimes bottlenecks my HD 5870 GPU
Texas instruments cpus as fast as possible!
+Duck Shit CPU's in overpriced calculators, the end
you almost had go of the deep end buddy.
+waterlubber Not a big fan of snap dragon I guess. There's probably a Texas Instrument chip in your cellphone.
+hussein hussein I have an HTC One with a Qualcomm 810. it's a great hand warmer.
Mason Bulot They got Jim Keller working on their 2016~2017 mobile processors as we speak. Hopefully he'll work magic like he did with Apple.
Love the vid. I bought the K62 and loved the athlon. I saw the history, lived it, and this is a great video that reminds me, and also gives me new information I find fascinating. Thank you! -and I love $1 SC glad they sponsored. well done sir.
Still running an FX 8370 here and love it. BUT, the other day I encountered my first single threaded bottleneck. I was playing some indie dungeon crawler kind of game and noticed that in one particular city my framerate dipped below 60. Brought up Rivatuner and one core was maxed out at 100%, the other 7 were basically idling...
I'm still not planning on upgrading for some time, but hopefully Intel's willingness to get on board with having high core count consumer desktop CPUs will lead to better performance overall with CPUs that have more than 4 cores.
I guess Im one of those weird Team Red guys who says Intel has better processors but AMD has better price to performance processors. Really hope that AMD can become competitive once again, we really cant have just one manufacturer if we want progress.
Also hope they manage to capitalize more on HBM while they still got the chance seeing how Intel seems to be gearing up for a big upgrade in HBM tech.
+Azivegu if they become competitive again, their prices will go up for sure
+Azivegu they would probably increase its prices if its performance went up
+Azivegu I hope it also, AMD ATI had and has good products, but they have literally a release Problem.
+Azivegu it sucks that they dont have good price to performance processors
+XInfinity2013 Why? HBM barely made an advancement against the GPU market. Fury was supposed to be the Titan "killer" ultimate 4k 60fps gaming experience. It barely performs as well as the 980 ti and sometimes just barely better.
I love my FX series processor. It's exceptional for rendering with the 8 cores.
Now we are watching this video on Ryzen powered computers, and Intel is wondering what to do next.
My first overclock experience was with an Athlon XP. I absolutely loved it.
Nice overview...
I would loved to have seen highlights of the key chips that really made AMD stand out.
I remember the AMD 386DX/40, it was a great chip for a long time, giving 486/25 performance for far less money, working on far less expensive motherboards.
Did you think your channel would grow this much when you made this comment 3 years ago? I have watched many of your videos :)
This is one of several videos that I'd love to see an update on.
Fun to look back at this now - you should do an update version of this video.
awesome run down of the history of amd.
thanks for your time in this video.
Who else had a 1.2ghz single core AMD thunder bird that you overclocked to 1.4ghz with the pencil trick!!!
Pencil trick?
@@legokenobi1185
So 2000s
@@legokenobi1185 Conductive pencils are used to increase the connectivity between the nodes in order to overclock then when there is no XPS and other things like BIOS settings and all
This weekend i've build a portable miniITX gaming / work PC. It runs on a A8 7600 APU by AMD and as a Intel fanboy i can't help to be really impressed by it. This chip is super cheap with four pretty fast cpu cores and a somewhat decent GPU. It actually plays GTA 5 between 30 and 40 fps @ 720p with normal settings. If i were to try that with a Intel / nVidia combination it would have cost at least three times as much. I really love this tiny PC. You can see it in action on my channel.
+sirhendro try a zen rig when it comes out .. I am sure you will become an AMD Fanboy after that :)
+hello walkman
I'm definitely very curious to see what AMD Zen will deliver. I doubt i will buy it though as i just bought this Kaveri build.
sirhendro but zen is for high end ..
I think the most important innovation for the Athlon 64 was the integrated memory controller. That was revolutionary.
Nice history review. Thanks!
I come from the future, and the news is, AMD.HAS.RYZEN!
I come from an even further future. AMD is just about to release the most powerful gaming CPUs, and intel has no clue what to do about it.
I come from an even further future. AMD is just about to release the most powerful gaming CPUs, and intel has no clue what to do about it.
@@nathangamble125 and intel is fucked. Hell yeah. #teamredforever
Intel can only make laptop CPUs now, AMD'S Ryzen 3000 and Epyc 7002 pushed them out of servers and desktops.
@@bananya6020 We're like 3 weeks away from CES 2020. Which is when AMD will reveal 7nm Zen 2 apu's and talk about 7nm+ Zen 3 ryzen cpu's.
You forget about Phenom II X6 first affordable 6 core desktop processor. Something that Intel don't have even today. I had one of those. They were video encoding power house for the money of its time.
+Stanisław Szczypuła Hmm.... AMD Phenom II X6 was $199.99 Intel`s Core Duo was $560.99 Hmm.. Um..... No words.Hands down AMD sold more that year.
and that FX 8150 for short time was the fastest CPU in the market
Still using it. Since launch. Doesn't bottleneck a gtx 1050ti still. X6 1090T be
Ty for u r words and I taken notes for my seminar and I got full marks 100 out of 100
wow you have taught me so much in so little time. I've already built my first computer to do video editing for my CZcams channel. I upgraded from a dual-core to a quad-core Athlon 64 x 4 860 k. If you would have asked me a few weeks ago with this shit means I would have had no idea. I have been watching your shows binge watching your shows to be exact. You have a lot of information that I am happy that I can learn off you. I almost want to switch my profession after being in the same profession for 16 years of my life. Not for money. Just because I enjoy computers and building and troubleshooting thank you very much for all your information and your videos keep up the great work
Hope AMD would make a CPU that is based on or design like their hbm memory. Stacks of CPU on top of each other would be pretty cool to see.
+An Vu interesting idea but this has already been done in intel's core 2 quad which was basically 2 core 2 duos on top of each other ..
Hmmm I did not know that. Well if Intel did it first then AMD should bring the concept back but do it better.
An Vu well amd were the first with true quad core which was the Phenom I .. ;)
AMD FX CPUs are great performers at a great price. I just built an all AMD gaming rig that plays all modern games for $400.00. Try that with Intel. I paid $108.00 for an FX 8320 and a 970 gaming mobo combo sale and got an R9 285 open box new for $107.00. The 285 is the same as a 380 with less RAM. $215.00 for the heart of a PC build. A new I5 cost more alone. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS EXPERTS IN BLIND TEST CANT TELL AMD RIG FROM AN INTEL IN REAL WORLD USE. In fact, more experts picked the cheaper AMD rig as better.
bodasactra-- You are so right!!! Give someone just the monitor, keyboard, and mouse to play most any game at 1080p and all but the most EXTREME hardcore gamers would never be able to honestly tell them apart. My boy and all his friends LOVE his Phenom II 955 system, and it's got dustbunnies older than him hidden away in the corners, lol
You have an inferior machine. AMD chip. LOL
@@jameskipp1657 You have an inferior machine. Intel chip. Lmao what a dumbass.
Outdated with Ryzen out now, but I had no idea about AMD's involvement with x64. Very cool to know!
I’m really liking today’s segue! More lifestyle oriented segues such as this please!
who's watching this after the announcement of Ryzen
After ryzen 3000 two years later
Ryzen 3rd Gen was unveiled today yet still I'm using an Athlon II CPU. :(
Technically, yes.
Technically, yes.
now we are waiting for zen 3
The 8086 was developed between 1976 and mid 1978 and Intel licensed it to AMD in early 1982 (not 1976).
Hey Linus i would really like to see a part 2 video if you would do one.
I just watched this and he mentioned zen from the ryzen line and I thought, wow those many cores that took the market really did bring back amd's market share and now they are about to make zen 2 and they already released threadripper 2
well amd was first to break the 1Ghz barrier with it's k75 athlon 1000 released on march,6,2000 and Intel's pentium 3 1000 just releasing after two days (march,8,2000) the dates that I have given are from Wikipedia.☺
Ah yes, my high school days of PC building and Athlon processors. AKA Intel failing to innovate and price competitively.
And now, all my PCs are Intel because they were pushed into greatness. It's really hard to argue with their performance today.
So thank you AMD for giving Intel the competition it so desperately needed.
It's so great to see both companies back in the game now! In the 90s, I was an Intel Lover. In the 2000s, I was an AMD lover. I went back to Intel for Ivy Bridge, and then I went back to AMD for Ryzen 5000. The history of the competition between these two chip designers is so fascinating, and now that they are back to competing on more even footing, it only means that we, the customer, now have more options. 2011 through 2016 were some dark days for the CPU space.
10-06-2019 Ryzen 3900x is rockin the show!
This video needs a bit of updating.
Am I the only one seeing the bent pins on the left of the CPU at 3:46? Or am i just cynical?
you are not
I enjoy your videos.......very good job on information about tech...
Somehow CZcams recommended this to me in November 2019. And wow. How the tables have turned completely upside down. The comments and expectation are a rush. Hindsight is 20/20.
2020 : Intel is begging for mercy 😭
1:35 What in the name of fuck is being performed there?
+The PowerPC Hub
I think it's a nod to the time when in order to overclock an AMD Athlon you had to physically take something off it (don't remember if it was a pin or something else, but remember reading about something like that in the magazine back in the days)
+The PowerPC Hub that's how Ahmed (clock kid) was building CPUs duh
+necrotic256 The pic imho is a joke. As for mods, you had to solder a few things on the front side of CPU, at the time AMD still hadnt used "safety caps", or connect them with a trace from a lead pencil. With it you unlocked the multiplayer and you could Overclock it with bios or switches. That was done at the end of 90's on athlons and durons 600Mhz and up,
+The PowerPC Hub Looks to me like stock art... Nothing meaningful could be taking place, but the picture itself might suggest "working on tech", thus it's used as clipart/stock art/canned art whathaveyou.
+Spac3M4N Heyyo, ugh I hate that clock kid... trying to sue for millions of dollars... fuck that kid... but I guess it's the way the world is these days... get a little butthurt and try and sue for millions of dollars. I hope he never gets a job in the tech industry out of fear of the companies that hire him might get sued too. Get rich quick scheme shit....
I had a K6-2 500 - my first new computer. Freaking loved it.
AMD Athlon XP 1800+ at 1,533 MH. This was the CPU for my very first computer build in the year 2001. Second PC I built was using the AMD Athlon 64 X2 at 4600+. That logo brings back good memory's.
So AMD invented pretty much all the features we use today, gave them to Intel, and now Intel totally rules the market, and AMD is slowly and painfully dying...
gj AMD, you could've ruled the market :/
+dadziokPL amd will not die
He Ryzen from the grave
at least the PS4 and the Wii U used AMD stuff
Adriaan S and Xbox.
Hello, I’m from the future and they kind of do now
Can you do an intel/nvidia/amd name explanation video? I got to know Intel and Nvidia myself. And now that I know how that works it is not hard to keep up to date. But AMD (both cpu and gpu) is still a mystery for me. I have no clue which one is better and how I can see that when I look at the numbers.
GPUs: R-line (9 implies high-end, 7 mid-range etc), then generation-performance-iteration (eg R9 285). So pretty much like nVidia, but instead of GT and GTX they use R7 and R9. As for CPU (FX line): core count-generation-clock. An exception is the FX-9xxx because that's still 8-core, but the same can be said about dual-core i7s.
+Animiles As for CPUs, AMD has series that revolve around the socket the motherboard has to place the cpus on (more or less) I mean, The AM3+ Socket can take two series the A series and the FX. For The A series we have A4, A6, A8, A10 - these have the APU tech, meaning they combine CPU and GPU in the same die. These are mostly used for laptops because of the "graphical bonus".... (NOTE: Intel does impair numbers i3 i5 i7 and AMD uses pair numbers, defenitely marketing reasons exist), For cheap (and frankly horrible) processors seen on laptops also are the E series, E1 and E2. The FX are very varied you can quickly google a list, but as with Intel a bigger means a better chip, although Intels first number means the generation its of and they can be better chips of older generations, AMD just goes by tier, 4300~ < 6300~ < 8000s~, and then there is also the Fenom series FM2+ socket, but this comment has already gotten pretty long and I'm really no expert but this should give you a general idea.....
+Victor Barcelo Not exactly. A-series (and modern Athlons) go on FM2+
+Victor Barcelo yeah, no....AM3+ was able to handle the older Athlons (like the Athlon 640) then Phenoms then FX series....the comment above mine says the rest...
K6-2 was the first cpu I used in my first build back in the day in high school. I feel so old
My first amd laptop was amd athon x2 with 2gb of ram and windows Vista I also had and amd althon neo x2 laptop with amd radeon he graphics card on it loved those PC's.
They need to update this...
Watching this after Zen 3 launch when AMD's chad transformation was complete.
By what i have experanced and read that provided you can manage the heat and power pull and are using alot of smaller tasks the fx line is actually pretty good.
Note i did upgrade from a AMD Phenom II X4 965 to a fx 8350 so take that with a grain of salt.
Would love to see follow up to this video, like how ZEN architecture worked out.
when you make a history of AMD before the release of Ryzen CPUs
2:33-2:34 can anyone find what is changing?
My first computer was a K6-2 300 MEGAHERTZ. I had a voodoo video 2 card as well. It ran starcraft pretty well.
For years I ran an 1.9Ghz Athlon XP chip. ran great, and after that had an Athlon 64 2.4Ghz, although I never ran a 64-bit OS on it as these were the days of XP x64 which wasn't too flash.