Joe Rogan & Bill Burr on UNATTAINABLE BEAUTY STANDARDS OUTRAGE!!! Podcast Reaction
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We can push toward healthier lifestyles, but let’s also incorporate the 10 second rule. If a person can’t change what you’re judging in 10 seconds, don’t point it out.
Ehh... give it a minute, some of us ugly bastards need time to chat you up!
Jay you know you are fine as hell you know it imperfectly perfect stay safe I love you
Giving it a try then, so you don't get to hate on me for following your advice. You have a knack for dressing up without making it look hard, but I was not able to un-notice something just now. Don't know what lipstick you are using, but the sharp transition to darkened shading on your upper lip suddenly reminded me of a mustache. No offense - if it is just me, no problem, but if you see it too am sure that it is an easy fix.
They can change it in 10 seconds. Just decide to not overeat anymore. Its a mentality and a life style of greed and gluttony. The damage done cant be undone in 10 seconds, but the source of it certainly can. My main problem with "body positivity" is that they deny there is even a problem that requires solving. And the first (and most important) step to recovery, is admitting you have a problem.
that is a stupid lazy rule
I feel like “society” has been saying that fat is the standard for the past few years, which I feel is really dangerous. The biggest health problem in the US is obesity.
It's done in the name of trying to avoid offending people with truth. That's the more dangerous element of the whole thing thing in my opinion.
Like bodies are different. Some people are fatter or skinnier than others and still healthy. It seems like society has taken this to extremes where life styles that are blatantly damaging and self abusive are being encouraged to avoid offending people.
@@thesanfranciscoseahorse473 delusion is a rising theme in our society
Not that I disagree completely with your statement. But really, the biggest problem to health in the US is obesity? As an outside spectator in a foreign country, I would say your biggest health concern are guns. I have never seen a school have a dozen students die in the span of one day from obesity.
If you are in a movie, it is a visual medium, get in shape if that is what the role is.
I personally disagree with the 'body positivity' rhetoric as I feel it panders too much and not everybody can be classed as attractive. Steve Buscemi is a really good actor, but honestly he would have no chance auditioning to play 'Thor' or 'Superman' as require a high level of physical appeal. Both Henry Cavill and Chris Hemsworth are next level 'prilly' and if we cannot accept the 'beautiful people' exist, we should simply not comment or compliment others on their appearance.
Naaaa
Well said!
because feelings & sensitivity trumps truth nowadays. not everyone can be beautiful, doesnt mean they are ugly.
@@blodhevn2353 True, but everything nowadays is about being all inclusive, especially when it comes to women. Not everyone fits into the same category (or should) but we really need to stop promoting narratives that something 'is' when clearly 'is not'. czcams.com/video/PJNHJbLrXTs/video.html. That way, there is isn't the need to live up to an expectation.
I hate (and never) use the word 'ugly' to describe a person's looks, but complimenting seems to create issues in the further down the line, for both those who are not, and for those who did not ask to be complimented, and with the latter there can be the somewhat patronising _"Oh yes... but you are beautiful"_ czcams.com/video/kOOS77gowlg/video.html
Beauty standards differ. What's considered pretty to one culture might not be pretty to another, a slightly lighter or heavier woman could easily still be considered "hot", or "beautiful".
When it comes to body positivity going too far, I think thats when we start encouraging people to be blatantly unhealthy. Telling people obesity or being unhealthily overweight is positive and beautiful is like saying smoking is beautiful, to avoid offending smokers.
Fat and skinny people can be really beautiful. But either extremes are unattractive because it is not healthy. Disfunction and unhealthy damaged purposefully broken bodies aren't good to raise up as attractive. If it is, then we should encourage drug abuse and smoking. Lol
You clearly understand what Joe meant by his statement, so how come you assumed others "might" take it offensively when you didn't? Why does someone else's "potentially" hurt feelings take precedent over our own "Varifiable," perspective? That's ideology overstepping its place!
100% agree.
People assume their feelings should be important to everyone else
Facts man! Glad you said it. If you think you're even slightly a good person, and you don't find it offensive, it's likely not offensive. We gotta stop looking for things to be offended by in 2021. It's almost like people want their lives to be difficult... Blows my mind. We need some *actual* struggle in place of all this victimhood.
@@mattvsmetaverse definitely... ppl need to understand being a "victim" is equivalent to being "vulnerable"... IMO there are certain times when being vulnerable is acceptable, and even at times maybe admirable. However, I disagree that it should be praised. You dont praise weakness... you also don't ostracize it. You at minimal acknowledge it, and create a way to cope w or correct it. This neurotic society that we have been thrust into recently, is rewarding and praising ppl for victimhood and trying to arbitrarily gift them privileges and equities. I was born in 1989... the 90s n 2000s were like a giant birthday party in America compared to now. Ppl need to voice their opinions and push back and check those that speak ignorantly, deceptively, and dishonestly. Ppl are self censoring and being scared into silence and that can't happen! Best wishes to you, and thank you for caring!
@@blacknap0le0n56 Bro... couldn't agree more! '86 here, and yea, this is by far the most sensitive people have been in my lifetime. And honestly, probably the scariest time because of it. It's crazy how simple the solution is. The only thing holding people back today is their mind; just being informed. We've grown too dependent on technology, to where we allow people on Twitter to think for us, to convince us that we're oppressed and have no control over our own lives. We like to feel noble from our desk chairs, like we have to endure so much, when most of us have no idea what enduring actually is. I do see a response to it, though. Thankfully, we're still free market (for now) so a lot of people are speaking with their wallets on all of this craziness. Popular culture's trying to make correct-thinking look psychotic today, but it's biting back. Know you aren't alone my dude. ✊ If we stop caring, no one will. Best wishes and God bless!
The soft mayor of London banned the pictures on the London Underground because all the feminists were "outraged" by pictures of beautiful and confident women in bikinis.
I think the main complaint about those pictures were that they were heavily edited setting a completely unrealistic standard. Not just the fact that the women in the pictures were beautiful.
@@bookclub5021 unrealistic to who land whales aka feminists 😂😂😂 foh women hate each other thats what it is
@@bagofrats3464 Nah just regular girls. Heavily edited pictured passed off as natural is bullshit. The models themselves don't look like that in real life ffs. Even Instagram announced a while ago that if you wanna post heavily filtered/edited pictures, you have to make it clear it is a filtered/edited picture.
The mayor is a muslim and London is an islamic city. That‘s the reason
@@sandrabecht4489 You have lost the plot. Who the fuck are you people going to blame when Khan is gone and a random white bloke is in the seat.
Big difference between "Hot" and "beautiful."
Same way there really is no such thing as a hot fat guy.
@@JoshTheTechnoShaman Well now were talking about being sexy, not being hot. Because that hot fat guy thing just doesn´t exist, but, like you wrote, you´ll see a fat sexy guy a lot
@@JoshTheTechnoShaman who was calling Rick Ross sexy besides Rick Ross
Guy hotness = size of bank account.
Hotness only matters when you’re young, really just a tiny fraction of your life.
So when these people see Michael Jordan on a magazine, they go: "That's unobtainable skill level!"
It kinda is
"I've seen many many beautiful women of all shapes and sizes, so I don't think that he should say it that way...."
If you have your own personal tastes or preferences regarding people's appearances, no one's criticizing that. That wasn't the question here however.
Here's why:
1. Women (I assume you are one) don't get to decide what men should find attractive.
2. The discussion was about what's expected from a romantic lead actor (male or female). These are films. Films cost money, so they need to make even more money. What's going to bring men to watch the same love story we've seen a thousand times? Amazing in shape beautiful women on the big screen for all to enjoy. That will be more of a motivation for men to go see the films than their female counterparts who are actually there for the story/romance. If you lower or remove the standard of beauty in those productions, you lose money. You lose money because men aren't going to go watch them. One example of "get woke, go broke".
one expample would be "birds of prey". put your women in rags that should be clothes but cannot attain the status of them and complain why nobody is watching that movie (even the feminists werent in the cinema).
Yep. Body positivity was meant for those people that have genetic disorders, but then lazy people and activists with huge appetites, too much to eat/priviledged as hell, who dont want to make the effort to work out took over to make themselves feel better about not making the effort to improve themselves.
Body sensitivity is cool unless you're a fat or short man 😂
preach
or just a man in general
damn, I'm both.
Im a 5.7 Asian and a little overweight. But i know where i am in the pecking order, im not jealous of these beautiful actors. I dont wana see myself starring in those movies, thatl be ridiculous..so i do what i can to get money and be better personality wise.
@@mapuiabungsut1514 You sound like a winner to me dude. I was just making the point that there's a double standard sometimes. Keep grinding and growing
This *Joe Rogan* character you speak of happens to have the largest podcast in the world to sign 100 million *Spotify* deal is not only a comedian former host of *Fear Factor* & commutator for the *UFC*
“Comedian” 😬
@@intello8953 funnier than many.
@@intello8953 'commutator'
@@intello8953 you say that like he’s not extremely successful in that field lmao he makes more than you and I combined on one show😂
@@lucasbrennanmma lmao bru I love his commentary on UFC and sometimes his opinion on conspiracy theories and UFO’s can be interesting but his stand up “comedy” *in my opinion* is god awful. But that’s just my opinion 🤷🏾♂️
Don't sleep on Joe he talks about all types of things
@GOLDBOND vs BALLS lol well for joe being a moron. He sure af has done great for himself. Wonder what he could have done if he lived up to your standards. Wow.
@@robertw9345 he’s done well at UFC commentating and “comedy” but his podcast can be cringe as hell, and I always wonder who is watching this crap 😂
@@intello8953 ok 👌
@GOLDBOND vs BALLS You call him a moron yet your comment is void of anything substantial. Which is something a moron would do. Ironic eh?
@@intello8953 that "cringe as hell" podcast landed him $100M contract, sounds pretty good to me
I'm all for body positivity too...so when my friends are clearly unhealthy because of their weight, I say something. I keep it positive but let them know they need to make some changes. Obesity is not healthy. Unhealthy is not super attractive.
dude im very slim, yet i eat great food and a lot of it at that (currently eating shepherds pie as i write this lol). i've been bothered by people about my appearance since i can remember, and not because im ugly cause im not THAT bad, its always been the crack head stigma just because i weigh less than the average man. yet i still have all my teeth and veins, no dotted scars over my arms or a rusty smoking voice; theres literally no indication to say i am a crack head besides what i weigh, and that makes no sense to me at all. i have a fast metabolism, so what? that makes me an unhealthy drug addict? this perception of people is one of the most ignorant someone could have of someone. its fk'ing nonsensical bs.
Guys will never change when it comes down to attraction 🤷♂️ women can't force us to like something we can't.
Same for us. You are right!
Well said. Bravo
you should react to "2 Bears 1 Cave" podcast's story called "For Jennifer Aniston's Safety", please
If someone told me to lose weight to star in a film I would do two-a-days at the gym and become a pescatarian.
Yet if a man were to be asked if lose weight or shave or grow his hair out, etc and he complained, women would call him weak, an asshole, etc but let it be a woman and suddenly the double standard comes out on full display with absolute denial in her words.
These two men speak serious truth and comedy. They're talking about the ones giving shit to the world all bc they can't be naturally pretty enough to be a 10 and wont work out and eat right to be sexy fit. It's flipped...we don't judge the outsiders the outsiders judge us bc they cant get INSIDE.
damn thats rly well put 100%agree
I feel Bill Burr, Joe Rogan, and yourself make some good points. I feel everyone has their own take of what is beautiful. Which to me is the best definition of the word. Because we all have our own opinion of what's beautiful.
Maaan, I'm so glad you're doing all these other kind of Bill Burr videos. Even the audio only ones!
I guess just know what line of work you're getting into, and if that involves dropping a few pounds to make a million bucks just drop the attitude and get to work? Me personally I don't care if she's got that extra 15 lol just don't let it get totally out of hand
Your hair is an unattainable level of beautiful right now tho for real lmao
traditionally, the reason for that hairstyle is to carry clay pots
Yeah, the list of US actors I watch is growing smaller every day. Basically everything made by Disney is a no go zone for me.
Disney make garbage anyway so you're not missing anything.
It's so bad that I'm trying to learn how to be a writer so I can write good stories for myself.
you definetly don't have a problem with those unattainable beauty standards
It’s always attractive girls like Jay that are championing other ladies not conforming to the beauty standards of society. That’s like a billionaire encouraging you to not try and attain wealth. “There’s nothing wrong with not being able to afford anything. Being homeless means you contribute to society just as much as I do”
7:51 FOR THE MOVIE///context matters.
A woman saying another woman is beautiful is meaningless. Society are the people who buy the tickets, if they find skinny “hot”, then that is what is hot.
It's unbelievable how actresses are complaining about having to get in shape, while actors never complain when they're asked to get buff, ripped, and all those visual requirements. If you're gonna be in a movie that specifically want a good looking lead then just do what you're told to do. It's not like they want you to change from obese to skinny, no they don't expect extreme change. Not that hard. If you want the job then do what you need to do. Why slander other women who work hard to look beautiful and feel good about themselves just because you don't want to do the effort?
Anything Joe Rogan & Joey Diaz.
You'll bust a gut
BIIIIIIG FACTS
Oh my God....He's changing flavors
@@davidcowart1698 yes 👍 The bus story
The bus story and the Knoxville story
and Bill actually wrong, we are per head nowhere near the obesity level of the US, Fish and Chips not withstanding (and anyway we actually eat curries more than just about anything else)
Nobody, including Bill, gives a shit.
There are a massive array of body types that millions upon millions of people find attractive, but Hollywood is a business, and they want to fill as many seats as possible, so they appeal to the lowest common denominator, which is slim women and muscular men
I feel the difference with the Rhianna example is that she is making a product for everyone because not everyone has the same body type. Which to Joes point, it helps make her more money to cast that wide of a net. Where the focus on the film is to get the best visual outcome (if the movie is centered around beautiful people) and want to have people who provide that.
@GoldGravity she hasn't put out music since 2016 tho
I respect how you how you have the courage balance your extreme beauty out a with large booger partially tucked up your nose. The kids should be inspired by your conscientiousness.
It's evolution. Brains respond to simetry. We all have to deal. If I want something, I must do what will get me there, and not just what I want or what makes me feel better. It's insane to always do the same expecting different results every time.
People have to put on fat to play roles too. It's ridiculous. If you are an actor, or actress, and not willing to go to the gym, shave your head, diet, put on a few pounds, drop a few pounds, or grow a beard, then you don't want, or need the part bad enough, and someone who fits the part (as is) or is willing to do what it takes then let that happen. Do your thing, but don't bitch about it.
I could be the most talented basketball player on earth, but if I refuse to stay in shape, and can't play for more than 5 minutes a game, I'm gonna get cut. People need to stop!
Body Positivity; should be the end result of a life well-lived, not a goal.
Likewise; the self-esteem movement is a load of crock. Self-esteem; is a by-product of a good moral life, not a goal to shoot for in and of itself.
For a movie I do agree with Joe. Look at Raging Bull, De Niro had to put on 60 pounds for that role!! When asked about his experience, he said it started off easy but got harder the more weight he put on.
I want to know why Bill is knocking our european pants! Bill! What's up with that?!? 😂😂😂
Ok she's gorgeous but damn....is a reaction channel not a SIMPING channel
That's a pretty sneaky way of simping ;). I respect it.
We all gotta simp every once in a while
There's always some level of simpatry on an attractive woman's channel. It's just the way things are lol.
@@tyler4418 theres simping on all womens channels
Thanks for turning me on to the Rhianna lingerie line thing. That's so cool.
Tv is about beautiful people that makes us feel bad about ourselves lmao
As long as you're on a roll with Bill Burr, check out "Bill Burr's Emotional Side".
I don't think that story about banning ads featuring unatainable beauty in the U.K is true, I'm from the U.K and I never heard of that, but of it IS true it's pathetic.
Yeah that was a bit much
Movies and shows are fantasies and in something like that certain standards of appearance are expect. If Chris Hemsworth played Jason Voorhees without that scary makeup would it still be same movie.
the tall nordic country thing is real af. so here in america the average male height is about 5'9, and think of all the tall people in america. now realize that in norway, iceland, denmark, sweden, all 6'0" average male height.
joe was saying a women shouldnt get mad IF shes starting in a movie playing a hot women,
One of my favorite BB moments. JR has many great guests.
Love you Jay Shara! And your channel too!
There is actually an ideal body type that most men prefer and its the hourglass shape. This has been proven in studies. Just as women have an ideal body type for men and its the inverted triangle shape (wide shoulders to smaller waist). And I really doubt that will ever change no matter how hard they try to push the "big is beautiful" propaganda
I love you JayShara! 😍😘
React to Joey Diaz tells jail stories on Joe Rogan podcast
I read an article the other day which was saying how obesity is a bigger health risk than smoking. It's a shame in the West how people are now celebrating this type of body.
I disagree with the fact society sets the beauty standard. Some people are born with better genetics than others, but it doesn't mean there less valuable as a person.
Love these reactions.
Great reaction as always.
More Joe Rogan please. Love that guy.
Man thats nonsense, if you are an actor or actress your job is to specifically play a role as best as you can. Asking you to change your physique its part of the "playing a role as best as you can" it is not like you are playing as the same person all the time... man thats why actors like Christian bale an Joaquin Phoenix are well known and respected, becauss they go through unbelievable and extreme transformations... because they have their roles as top priority
Joe rogan has an amazing podcast and the conversations he has with something many different are very interesting and worth reacting to
From my understanding, UK have banned photoshopped bodies - or the ad have to say that the bodies are manipulated.
While I'd agree, no one should be treated badly because of how they look, ever. I'm not totally on board with the body positive point of view. I believe it sets a bad standard. It says (maybe not directly) that you should be Ok with being fat and unhealthy. imo That should never be promoted. Especially where young minds are involved. Eating healthy and staying in shape should be the Only push. It is literally life and death imo.
He said you have to lose weight to look beautiful for a movie role not everyday life
I'm 6'5" . I'd love to go there
Personally.. I think you are absolutely beautiful. Nothing intended. You are very pretty. Please accept this and move forward. 🙏
Your re-wording of Joe's words was well put. Glad you clarified lol.
Being fat used to be a sign of prosperity, wealth, respect and security. In a lot of nations. Because everyone else was hungry and malnourished. Now that we have science and are more educated about the human body, this is no longer true. Being fat is unhealthy. There are so, so many health problems associated with it. But I’ve also got friends that are fat and very, very active. They would outlast a skinny person playing “full” court basketball any day of the week. I believe everyone plateau’s. The same with lifting weights to get bigger. My opinion is as long as you are active daily, the weight doesn’t matter because you’re always conditioning the heart and lungs. Would they do better if they lost weight? Doubt it. You’re own brain knows the body type you have bettter than any study. The BMI chart is just generalizations. Its true for a lot. Edit: I have to add. JayShara, you already know you are one of the “beautiful” people. And the standard of beauty is not changing. It’s always going to be perfect angular features with a healthy body. That’ll never change because of survival instincts. The fat can’t run from a massacre. Not far enough anyway. It was comically portrayed in “Zombieland”. Rule #4: Cardio. “Poor fat bastard never stood a chance.”
For JayShara...unattainable beauty is just standard. 😍😍😍
Lol
Joaquin Phoenix in "Joker" is a prime example of how men have to lose weight for a role. 52 lbs. in Joaquin's case. I'm glad your acknowledge and know that.
Great reaction. I love these
Thank you!
Love your hair
Being fat is not good for you. Encouraging "body acceptance" flies in the face of the obesity epidemic
Bill Burr and Joe Rogan need to be in a movie. Possibly a buddy cop comedy/action flick. That would be Rad!
It’s not to look hot. It’s to look hot for a role. It’s a job
As a short and ugly Swede, I do my part in making everyone around me look beautiful 😂😂
Don't know what a lot of folks are buggin out on her for... I think Jay had a very reasonable take away from this conversation
with the Rihanna example and how she has different types of all people... it's cuz she's Rihanna and her name is on the label. It's a marketing thing. Everyone will buy it and if she puts more diverse shapes and sizes she will make more money. It's a win win strategy for her.
Okay, money has to be made but is that bad?? Is it promoting anything negative?
@@JayShara nope, not bad but glorifying overweight people and telling them they are beautiful is not necesarily a good thing. Joe didn't go over it in this interview but in another one he talks about how society should not say that being fat is fine and beautiful. As far as health standards. It's too much to type out, if I find the interview i'll link it. But the premise is he speaks about being overweight is not beautiful because it's unhealthy. Nothing against the person themself, they could be the sweetest most loving person you ever met. Anyway yeah, I'll try and find it.
BEAUTIFULL DOES NOT MEAN ATTRACTIVE. hot girl= sexually desirable. if u wana be on film, being beautiful aint enough! u have to be attractive.
You should do Bill Burr on fat people lol
Uh huh, would you or Rihanna put your money where your mouth is, and give some over weight dude a chance?
Wishing my favorite girl A Happy Valentines Day.🌹.
All right here is how it works whoever wrote a novel book or film script that becomes a movie if the writer say's a character in the book or script is around 130-135 lbs the actor or actress needs to get down to 130-135lbs for image accuracy of that character they are going to play... Just like how they put prosthetic scars and fake tattoos on characters if said character has a scar or tattoos in the novel book or film script...heck Matthew McConahay lost a good deal of weight to play his character in Dallas Buyer's Club...but hey it shouldn't even be a issue anymore now they can do life like CGI body imagery now just throw actors and actresses in green bodysuits and they can scan models bodies of certain weight ranges then they can just insert the models body on the green body suit... Problem solved
He wasn't talking about looking for a girlfriend, he was talking about someone being paid literally millions of dollars to look a certain way. Think Scarlet Johansson being spoilt. It you don't like it, move to the side and let someone that wants to do it in.
You are totally misunderstanding what Bill said; he is not saying that anyone has to look sexy, he is just saying that that is what you have to conform to in a movie part. So; you aren't actually disagreeing with him.
I agree with you 100%. People all have different body shapes and sizes and they have their own beauty. Not everyone can be the “ideal” body type which has for years been promoted by advertising and movies. Besides, I think what counts more is how beautiful a person’s personality is. I’ve known many gorgeous/handsome people who were absolute monsters. Gotta look at the whole package. Nice discussion. 😊🌹
I think YOUR beauty standard is unattainable. LOL. Your HAIR! dAMN that is gorgeous. I've never been much of a fashionista (white thirty-somethin' year old guy wearing jeans n' t-shirts here), but I have to say that something about the way you style yourself is pure ART. LOVE THAT HAIR STYLE. Love your videos and just happy with how you give yourself that attention
There is a weight that is 15 pounds too heavy to be hot for every body. If you're 5'2" 15 pounds makes a big difference.
You one of my favorite youtube person to watch
hey i got down a rabbit hole tbh of your videos but is it a black thing to literally have incredible hair every video but also every style imaginable you look amazing. every video you have a different look and its amazing tbh
Here's the deal, beauty is absolutely in the eye of the beholder, ans societal standards of beauty change based on region and era. Just think about renaissance paintings. Most paragons of beauty at the time were pretty zaftig. These days, by and large feminine beauty centers around a svelte appearance. There's a subset of the population that whines that this is unobtainable. These people need to shut the hell up. I'm 6'4" and 240 lbs. I'm chubby I don't get mad at Jason Momoa for being better looking than I. That dude works his butt off to look that good. I'm lazy, and I like pizza and beer. Being that handsome takes work that I'm not willing to do.
First of all that phrase "many beautiful women in all shapes and sizes" is only catered to women, you never heard that crap said about men ,you will never hear especially out of a womans mouth "many beautiful men in all shapes and sizes", for men its 6 feet tall with abs and looking like idris elba or brad pit or you dont matter, a little equality lost there and second you never heard any men complaining about that shit like Bill said, its only women who want to stuff their faces with ding dongs and then be called beautiful ,you might be a good person but at 5,4" 200+ pounds you are certainly not beautiful, the problem is that women dont want to hear from other women that they are beautiful ,they want to hear it from men, especially the men they want and that will never happen so tough luck girls!!!You want men to be nice and dont say it, usually they dont but they still will walk away...
There are unhealthy standards for men, it's just not talked about because we don't care as much. Some actors had to actually crash diet and do a *_SHIT TON_* of crazy shit. It seems that women compete with each other on beauty standards compared to men. I just want a smaller stomach and not die from diabetes too soon. I wanna play more games in my future. When you are playing a specific role, yeah, they are looking for that role for that reason. Not all women in Hollywood have to be beautiful for their roles, but that is the character the role is. Some characters are hot, some are ugly, some are okay, some are thing/thick/muscular/obese. It depends on the character. Movies are simply stories that somebody want others to act in. The actor may have suggestions, but to make a movie change for the actor in spite of the story the creator made is unfair. That's why animation needs more respect than just live action.
If it’s in the script for someone to look a certain way thats the script. Fit it or leave simple as that
that was Funny, loved it X
Anyone who works in an office, factory, blue-collar job, etc; has a right to NOT be imposed upon regarding their looks or body. However, actors; have to conform to what the script calls for; and a Firefighter, can't weigh 97 pounds....!!
Btw- be more specific as to what you like and don't like; you are a bit vague.
Biggest podcast and you've never heard of him hahahaHh
I respect your opinion on the body positivity subject but I somewhat disagree. I am a big guy myself and I know that it was not an accident that I got to where I am. In fact I see that it was a lot of irresponsibility, lack of self-discipline, lack of self-control and addiction to the good feelings that I get from food that has led me to where I am. I think Society is all too accommodating of those lifestyle habits and I think it just really needs to change. Even though I am a person who would be targeted by it, I fully believe that we need to have some societal shaming of the overweight to get there Lives in order and actually work to improve themselves. I think that all the body positivity movement does is enable and reinforce people in their beliefs that they can do whatever they want, have absolutely no self-control and still have others obligated to call them beautiful and encourage them. We look at people who are smoking your kids with disgust and shame them publicly because we see it as unhealthy and it is considered a good thing in society to be like that. These days there is a movement to shame people into wearing masks, because they are putting others at risk and such blah blah blah. They don't. But if you want to put yourself at risk of heart attacks, diabetes, all kinds of other ailments. Increase the cost of healthcare around the country by your increased level of unhealthiness and increased need of a medical services. Do all of that and it is totally fine in fact you should do more of it than anybody who thinks otherwise is a bad person. I don't have any problem with creating products that cater to those people, I just don't think we should be Encouraging people and enabling them to stay that way.
Actually there is sort of a blue print. Scientists took simple outline drawings of a range of women's bodies and showed them to males all over the world. They took surveys from all over the globe, from South American tribes to major cities across earth. Runway models are too thin, but there is a small range which men find attractive.
JayShara, you're very intelligent and funny. That is why I find you attractive. Period. And although you also happen to posses great physical beauty, to me, that is secondary. I'm the kind of guy who sees the big picture in all aspects of life. Thus, I am keenly aware that physical beauty is oh-so-fleeting. And there are no exceptions.
I like your views on Hollyweird producers and directors (and society in general) who coax or force women actors to lose weight. You are spot on, in my opinion.
And even though men are far more visually oriented than women are (as a rule), I'm not one of those guys. For me, a woman should possess much more than just looks.
I find that women who have energy, intellect, and humor are usually very sexy, no matter if they are considered to be overweight, according to show business elites. In fact, if I were to speak from a visual standpoint only, women who are "overweight" are far more attractive than underweight women are.
Fear and loathing in Las Vegas... Benicio Del Toro gained more than 45 pounds (18 kg) in nine weeks before filming began, eating 16 donuts a day
The woman (or the man) is supposed to look hot to attract people to see the movie.
If you're an amazing actor (with a great resume) you can get by on talent (Tom Hanks, Denzel, Meryl Streep, etc).
Otherwise, you gotta do everything you can to draw a crowd to see your flick. Women line up to see movies with Ryan Gosling because they want to sleep with him...it's the same with everybody in movies.
@JayShara...(paused @8:35). Growing up, it was usually the women's magazines on grocery shelves that determined the standards of beauty. And yes, mostly stick figures. From hairstyles to makeups to shapes. All found inside. *Men had cars and muscle mags. I understand you got a little triggered(emotional) behind the request however that request is nothing new to what women have been doing naturally. I.e. when y'all went to y'all prom and wanted to look good in that dress. How about if y'all going to any beach in or outside of the states, where do most of y'all go first?(gym)
What about wedding time? What do y'all do to standout from the rest?(Go to the gym). So please #Dontgettriggered if they are asked to do the same thing for a paycheck.
What If: Artie Lang was the lead man in
50 Shades of Grey and it wasn't a comedy?
I can see the points on both sides for this one but I view it like this. Hating someone for having an attractive physical appearance is akin to hating someone for being gay, or a different race, or for having a mental disability, or whatever. You're showing prejudice against them for something completely beyond their control. But when I think more about their conversation, they kinda whiffed on the biggest point in favor of shaming "unattainable beauty standards". After all, that phrase didnt really roll out in protest of genetics. It rolled out against modifying people's looks with photoshop, and then presenting that as truth. I think thats where the problem is. The big lie of being photoshop beautiful.
Thing about men is we all like different things some men love fat women some like like super skinny women and everything in between