Lies of P Has Ruined Dark Souls For Me
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- A video where I weed out the casuals and say "actually" a lot.
big thanks to @hotcyder for the thumbnail :')
Thanks to my friends Galaga and Jamie for idea of the chapter slides
Thanks to my friend Jare for some of the games audio files
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Heads Up
00:08 - Lies of P In A Nutshell And What An Opinion Does To A Man
01:06 - A 10 Minute Preamble To Tell The Souls Fans That I Do In Fact, Like Dark Souls
11:15 - A Puppet in (Souls) Clothing
27:38 - Combat (Perfected)
44:07 - You Can (not) Lie
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Here are some links to videos i used for extra footage
Sekiro Footage-
• Sekiro Shadows Die Twi...
• SEKIRO: SHADOWS DIE TW...
• Sekiro: Shadows Die Tw...
Starfield -
• STARFIELD Full Gamepla...
Dark Souls -
/ @xtge
/ @matiasgago
• Pontiff Sulyvahn Boss ...
• Havel VS All Bosses NG...
Zelda -
/ @beardbear
God of War -
• GOD OF WAR 1 Remastere...
music from Lies of P OST as well as Paper Mario TTYD, Resident Evil 4, Castlevania 64 but mostly the Lies of P OST
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"My dislike of Dark Souls 3" And here it is ladies and gentlemen, the reason we don't need to watch the video any further! Thank you all for coming, it was a nice 4 minutes, but now I must leave and block this channel, so that this garbage does not show up in my feed anymore.
Let's fucking GOOOO
Personally I like dark souls 3 the most but I fully understand all the people that don’t like it. Opinions are opinions
This attitude is amazing, and you are a superhero. Keep doing what you do.
@@TheNewSithBlog I'll assume you're talking to me in which case I'll say thanks and that I will
Idk what u expected from a guy that uses block button insted of dodge, he also has elden ring as 6th best souls game, idk what's wrong the ppl like him who say "i love dark souls games" and don't even have ds1/ds2/ds3/elden ring as top 1 game pathetic
One of my favorite things about the game that didn't get mentioned is how defensive parts are separate from the costumes, so you can be as drippy as you want and still have whatever defenses you want for ur build
Agree! I wish other souls games could do this but I imagine it’s difficult to justify it in-universe.
@@Zyckro Bloodborne basically does that right?
@@Zyckroyou dont really need a reason tho just do it lmao. fun gameplay mechanics should take precedent over lore in almost every circumstance. people are gonna remember being able to do something fun, they aren’t gonna give a fuck that you can dress up differently without a lore explanation for why it works
It's a basic feature that should be present in any game of a similar type. FS not adding it to their games is just their usual bullshit like no pause menu or whataver. They like making the game experience a little shitty. Just because.
@@masterofsorrow2699 Your thinking is too shallow. Fromsoft not only does it for in-lore reasons, but because of co-op and invasions. A player should be able to look at another player and instantly tell how much poise they may/may not have, along with their defense. Wouldn't it be really stupid and annoying if you went to go fight a naked player, and they actually had havel's armor on but you just couldn't tell? It's funny you also bring up the no pause menu in the same comment, because it exists for similar reasons.
1# you can't just pause the game because being able to do so would take the stress out of encounters if you were allowed to catch your breath. Fromsoft's worlds are living and breathing, you can only catch breaks at bonfires or safe areas. 2# Fromsoft's games are always online with messages, player phantoms, and invaders. It should go without saying that a multiplayer game cannot have a pause button.
Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense or have reasons. Fromsoft knows what they're doing.
This game is wonderful in every aspect but one thing I don't see many people talking about is the soundtrack. The soundtrack is insane. I remember being so dissapointed when I got a record from completing a quest and then I took it back to the hotel and figured "why not see what this record is like" And then I turned on the collectable masterpiece known as Feel and just sat there for like 10 minutes listening to it on repeat.
same, "feel" is literally a masterpiece and evokes emotion perfect for the game
When comparing the total of works against each other, Lies of P beats every Fromsoft...actually probably most Souls like. Ds3 and Bloodborne have a few tracks than stand out on top and just grab me every time, but when combined with their other tracks and compared to Lies of P, LoP just comes out on top.
Also, the fact the game added a mechanic that enticed me to just stop and listen to a track with no other distractions...it was the first time that a game mechanic almost made me shed a tear. Beautiful is all I can say about the mechanic and the soundtrack
@@TB-zj1yy I agree with you whole heartedly. I can't wait for their dlc to drop. The creators leaked some images that make me suspect that not only will we have Dorethy from the Wizard of oz but also some of the characters from peter pan.
man the records are insanely f****** awesome!
Brother same! When I finally turned them on I was stunned. It changed the rest of my experience and created beautiful moments.
Because I ALWAYS turned it on from that point, it would be playing on the background during emotional moments/dialogues. Such as the King Of Riddle quest end dialogues. THEY HIT 10x HARDER.
And the deaths... Or going back to the hotel and out on the corresponding record... It was so emotional and beautiful
AND it is also a mechanic as it adds to our 'humanity meter'
AND on newgame+ you get golden records which usually are alternative versions.
The records EASILY became one of my many favourite things
I almost never replay games, once I'm done I typically move on to the next one. After I finished Lies of P I immediately started playing NG+ to refight the bosses and unlock the alternative endings this game is an absolute gem.
Tell me about it 😂
that NG+ w/ alternative ending that offered gameplay variety needs to be essential. it rewards replayability. Lies of P and AC6 comes in mind
what is ng plus
@@ricxwav6061 New Game plus, after you finish the game you start the game over again but you retain your character level, weapons, and items when you beat the game. Also in Lies of P bosses have more health and do more damage on a New Game Plus playthrough so it isn't too easy, it is a souls-like after all.
i liked that in ng+ you could still upgrading new p organs. but i hated that the game is totally lineal
Bonfires being next to bosses is BY FAR the biggest upgrade Lies of P and Elden Ring made. I can't go back to any Souls game where I have to run through a goddamn obstacle course to get to a boss.
Not having to pull a lever wait for the elevator when you die is peak game design
@@alialkuwari8155 just activate the button that sends elevator to bonfire area
that QoL made it more accessible, just in time as for newer comers/aduience exposed to the genre.
lol i still have flashbacks from that poison forest before fighting those knights or watever those guys are
@@capolean2902I think you're talking about Abyss Watchers and yes, it's pretty annoying
A few days ago I felt like trying to play ds3 again after beating LoP, and a single runback to Wordt made me feel like I don't want to play the souls trilogy anymore lol
no words on the fact that blocks can also break the enemy weapons? This is another thing that add one more level to the fights
I mentioned that in my video talking about the demo but I didn't leave it in this one because I felt that I had already said enough that needed saying. But maybe I should have at least mentioned it here too
Even bosses weapons man. This is incredible
Yup, the Black rabbit fight for example
@@doromizu. fun thing if you break the rabbit's weapon in the first fight the second fight it comes back broken as well
@@doromizu.U can break lex's weapon too
As I've gotten older and have less time to play games, I really hate games that have a lot of backtracking and having to remember to go back for items ,quests ,chests and doors that you couldn't unlock before. So I really loved that feature where it reminds you of who to speak to or which quest can be completed. Made the game so much more enjoyable and less overwhelming for me.
Yeah. In souls games, I usually just play blindly at first and then on NG+ I will try to do all the quest and that means holding my phone and searching every guide on the internet. It's not fun at all. Just doing it for the trophies. But I have no complains because it's almost tradition at this point 😂
ÉBasically QoL features that should be in EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN SOULS GAME.
FromSoft has no good reason not to implement some QoL upgrades...
@@electroelysium2281 Because their fanboys drool over anything they put out no matter what so they don't have to put any effort into their games.
This is a false take though. FromSoft is one of the best studios when it comes to caring and putting efforts in making good games.@@Digger-Nick
@@Digger-Nick have you play any fromsoft game or are u just hating cause u can never "git gud" lol. The thing here is you don't really need to do any of the quest to finish the game. The quest are mostly for trophies and some unique items. They're optional. You can completely play the game without worrying about any of the quest.
I loved the mechanic that when your healing is gone you can fight to always get back to one heal. Saved me many times.
Forget everything else. The MUSIC IN THIS GAME OML! It is so beyond good and packed full of emotions that work perfectly with the world it's set in. 9/10 game.
I probably could have gone into detail about the music but I could only say "it adds to the atmosphere and vibe of the game" so many times
The song “feel” lowkey makes me wanna cry sometimes
Pretty much all of the sound tracks from the game is by Studio LAY-BACK which is a music studio under Neowiz.
Neowiz is also known for rhythm game DJMAX series.
nigga be playing videogames for music
@@Darkraven867I absolutely fell in love with that song! I ended up finding it on CZcams Music and saving it to my playlist so I can listen to it in my car!
Just finished LoP and I cannot stop recommending it to friends of mine. What a great game! Absolutely stoked for whatever this team puts out next.
I NEED that next game RIGHT NOW
Me too! I've recommended it to like 8 friends! GOTY!
Im hoping its going to be red riding hood if the end cutscene is to be believed, they say dorothy so its more likely that its the wizard of oz but im really hoping its a bait and switch and we get bloodborne 2 as little red riding hood. The dark souls fanbase is foaming at the mouth for another beast based horror souls take.
@@SNDN_LN the take on Grimms' fairy yales was such a burst of creativity and imagination.
The writer of P actually wrote on a game coming up that takes place in Italy, cant remember the name but it's a souls like coming this year.
Great video man!! Glad to see small creators do such amazing content.
the ending song was the cherry on top of this video great video man!! really hope one day im looking at game reviews in the future and stubble across you again
You could always subscribe!
I finished the game last night and god damn it was a FANTASTIC game. I got so invested in the story, parrying has never felt so satisfying, combining weapons is such a great feature and the fact that you can change the scaling with the cranks is HUGE! It gives you an incentive to use whatever blade you want. The boss fights were awesome (except *cough*Simon*cough*), the Brotherhood fight was finally a gank fight DONE RIGHT. This is definitely my favourite game this year.
It is truly a fantastic souls like. It also has the best story of any souls like. and the combat is phenomenal... it is up there with my all time favorites and a game i will always end up coming back to in the years to come!
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@@KingBranDaBroken man after fighting laxsia and magnus one after another the 2nd phase of nameless has worn me out after 10 tries ,, gotta take a break
@@jonathanezell4825 take breaks but be consistent you got this🫡
@@KingBranDaBroken i cant relate its a good game but i just cant get into it even tho sekiro and elden ring are to two favorite games of all time
Afm Lies of P is the first soulslike that reached an actual level of the originals. For me it's even better than some of the From software projects. I hope games like Lies of P will make From Software themselves to become better.
Damn must have skipped Code Vein OWO
I’m glad someone hasn’t forgot about it
@@iHoosang Can't wait to do more Code Vein runs and beat the last DLC >W
I’m working on the platinum for Lies of P rn actually and the code vein dlc isn’t wasn’t very popular
Yall just like easy soullike games lol Lies of p was way to easy
You, sir, have made me want to replay this game from the start and try a new build- after I’ve already platinumed this game, beat NG+++ and put over 115 hours into the game.
Do a fisting only run its fun
The interchangeable handles/blades really got me interested. Thanks for a thorough review! I have fallen in love with Souls like games recently and I am adding this to my list of games to play.
Did you play it yet??
@@RBondZ007 I am most of the way through the game. Its amazing.
I had some expectations for Lies of P to be a good game, you know, hoping for a decent Souls-like experience I could enjoy. It turned out to be an absolutely incredible and fantastic journey. I can't wait to see what the developers come up with next.
The Wizard of Oz: Dorothy 👠
I tried the demo when it came out and didn't liked it at all , it felt weird
Lotf came out and i HATED that game and bought lies of P because i needed to play a souls but i've done the game too much , i'm actually at the IX "maps" and god this game is crazy , my first impression was bad and now i'm falling in love with it
@@elyakel5682it’s my second souls after Elden ring. And I got stomped by the first miniboss - the baton guy. Took me almost 15 tries but I beat him. Then near the endgame I beat Laxasia in my second attempt. God this game genuinely made me git gud
@@Lilmikey-dh8cd What game? Lotf?
If you talk about lotf there is a lot of thing who doesn't work
you go too far when you attack
there is too much monster everywhere it feels like DS2 with the gank squad everywhere, but it's even worse
The bosses are boring as fuck, none of them are challenging at all
The bosses looked terrible visually compare to the world
The animations are kinda bad honestly
But in all these shit you can find some good thing too
The magic/projectile system is wonderful
the armor looks really sick, probably even better than the armor FS made
But i don't know, I found the game really boring, it's probably my biggest disappointment this year, i don't understand how people can like this game and compare it to DS1/3/ER/LoP, they're years apart from Lotf in almost every way
@@elyakel5682Lotf is definitely inferior, but I found i could appreciate it when I understood it more. The attacks moving you forward so much actually helps you a ton when fighting crowds, you can maneuver and even dodge just by attacking, which is cool and fixes the gank issues. However, about half the levels and half the bosses are atrocious, with the other half being good, so it just ends up being mid with some high points
It feels so bad that such a great game wasnt even nominated for game of the year. I know that doesnt make a difference but I wanted more people to know about this game
The developer didn't pay the committee off. Plus the game isn't political, so the powers that be don't like it
@@johndodo2062exactly. No where near political enough. Spiderman was riddled with it. Lies of P is my game of the year besides hogwarts. Only because ive wanted a Harry Potter game forever and they pretty much nailed it
My GOTY no questions asked
@johndodo2062 Sekiro isn’t political, neither is Elden Ring but both won GOTY in their respective years
@@johndodo2062- Political? What games are you playing that are "political"?!
Can someone please tell me what the song is around 10:00? I checked the OST and couldn't find it.
Memory of Beach
I loved your video and subbed!🤩If the studio keeps making souls like based off of fairy tales with dark twists, I'm sold, especially if the story continues with the Wizard of Oz.
20:08 so this is basically the Monster Hunter sharpness mechanic, which is the only durability mechanic that makes sense. It adds another layer of rhythm by getting the player to think about when they can withdraw and sharpen safely.
Put another way: if strikes and dodges are the quarter and eighth notes of this rhythm game, sharpening is the rest note you have to work into the beat.
I actually didn't bother with sharpening that much since I went for the bonesaw/wrench+baton build, charge attacks + puppet string. I realized the game was too easy with those weapons so on the new game+ i went for a more vanilla build and it was definitely more fun and hard.
Just finished my ng+ run of lies of p
It is now in my top 3 favorite souls games of all time
And honestly i would rank it next sekiro and ds3 in the highest tier of souls games
Lies of p is the first souls game that got me invested 100% into the story which was just amazing, the bosses (although for me personally not as good as ds3 and sekiro bosses) are absolutely amazing but may suffer from some minor design flaws
The soundtrack is masterful and the environement is just on a whole other level and the combat/weapon system are the best ones we've seen yet in a souls,
Even with the minor flaws this game has i would easily give it a 10
This game hasnt ruined souls for me because i still think ds3 has the best bosses and ost and sekiro has the best combat system in any game period
But lies of p easily ranks next to these two to games
This video is amazing btw im subbing
Thank you so much :') love your face, love your show!
one thing i noticed when i started lies of p and the parrying system, was how the attack patterns for most if not all of the bosses is that their attack patterns are so fast that it once again it forces the aggressive gameplay that the devs want
My favorite part about lies of p is the fact it always lets you stay in the fight when you're low on heals or have none. In other souls games there's been so many times where Im just like "welp I've lost now" and that's pretty much gone now. It allows us to be decently aggressive instead of running away doing one hit when we're low on everything.
Bro that's crazy one of the most satisfying things in dark souls is killing that boss you've been stuck on with 0.1 HP
@@gigapac Usually when that happens you already are close the end of the fight already. If it's early and you lost all your heals its basically over most of the time. I beat some bosses low hp anyways, but the regen just keeps runs alive and learn their moves easier. If I could fight a LONG fight like midir with heal regens I'd probably like the fight more.
@@galaxyvulture6649 ohhhh yeah I understand that's totally fair that's a super frustrating feeling when you get caught in a combo like 3 times in a row early because of one mistake and lose all your estus
Yeah it's like sekiro, since you have good defense mecanics, you can still play even low on health, the other souls game where you only have your roll and you know there are some bosses attacks that are near impossible to dodge so being low early on the fight means you'll lose.
yea felt like an amalgamation of the genre, trully inspired by the previous. put some notes and went to the drawing board polishing out the rough edges.
I re-beat dark souls 3 and lies of p in close proximity to each other and while i wouldnt say lies of p has exceeded from soft, i think it absolutely deserves to sit next to from's games as the top of the genre. Immaculately made and so beautifully well thought out. Absolutely nail3d whatbit set out to do and is very consistent throughout. I do think the last 2 bosses were a little too easy though
I haven't played Lies Of P yet, but I imagine it's at least better than Elden Ring. Loved Dark Souls 3, though. Beat that game like 20 times.
@keytwitchyPhD that's tough because Elden Ring and Lies of P are structurally veryy different. It really would come down to preference. If you preferred ds3 you'd probably like lies more than ER
you're telling me nameless puppet was easy to you? god bless you man
@_angel04 maybe i just got lucky, idk 😅 I see a lot of people say he was rough so maybe it was a fluke
@@CurtTheHero yeah i mean his first phase is nothing to stress about but i struggled on his second for a good part of an hour. i ended up besting him with the holy sword of the ark after trying to use that one poison dagger that carried me through a good chunk of the game
Lies of P is one of the most fantastic games I’ve ever played. It’s been years since I’ve actually looked forward to sitting down and playing a game like I did with Lies of P
GOTY, baybee
Elden ring?
@@erwingoldenballs7382That's what I was going to say.😂
@@erwingoldenballs7382elden ring got boring to me because there were too many same looking dungeons
@@erwingoldenballs7382elden ring is just too big and I don’t really like open worlds. I like how they can focus on a smaller game and really polish the maps and the combat.
This is my first experience in souls like games and i can honestly say this is one of the best games i have ever played. Story is good, combat feels fluid, graphics are amazing, athmosphere is great, well optimized. If you have a pc definetly buy gamepass just for this game! I just started my 2nd playthrough and Been loving it. Note the game gets a lot harder on 2nd playthrough
I was just delighted to have a Dark Souls experience with a coherent storyline. I find dying repeatedly less frustrating when I know what the f*ck I am trying to achieve. :D
it's not hard at all to understand what's going in Dark Souls. unless you don't talk to any npcs then it's fairly obvious
@@waterhighbasically kill the big guy to become the edgelord or light a flame smt like that
@@carlosreis2753 damn i have never seen someone summerize the mainline darksouls games so succinctly
Yeah especially since its not that hard to do so, with DS having barely any story. But Lies of P devs still knock it out of the fucking park. Thid game is just a JRPG disguised as a "soulslike". The more I play it it doesn't even feel like a "soulslike", it completely trumps Fromsoft imho. I still really like their games, but god damn this shit is so good. Devs super inspired by them put out a whole nother fucking BEAST
People like y'all who say there's no story really need to spend some time off tiktok, ur minds are rotting, the stories are literally told to your face
its not just pretty good, its game of the year for me.
Me too. Not sure if it's because I could never get into souls games before this. It's probably in my top 5 games of all time at this point. I think with other souls titles they're so cryptic with the story and the fact his has a heart felt one built in grabbed me. What it has done is make me want to try more. Well done that team for an absolute banger of a game. The production levels in this game are absolutely incredible. Now you will find me in the Lands Between! I'm telling you now if it was a FS game people would have taken more notice.
When you showed those reviews I just thought "damn, gamers deserve nothing" LMAO
ban all gamers
@@Sputnik34 Truly agree 100%
@@Sputnik34What did i do????
Reviews are fake ya know lol
Having lose sleep to Lies of P and Starfield, I can tell you, reviews now are just any redditors
You put everything I feel about this game into words, thank you. I'm glad it's not just me that felt this way about Lies of P. My expectations for any future souls like game have shifted because of this game. I don't think anything will come close to how good this was for a long time. Looking forward to see what you think of the future lies of P DLC coming out in the future.
Great video. Still haven't gotten around to playing it. Really looking forward to it.
I swear there’s a secret game analysis video essay college out there cause these insightful talented entertaining channels just keep popping up out of nowhere
I disagree that you need to learn to parry to beat Lies of P. I beat the game and every boss in the game without ever learning to parry. I relied almost entirely on dodging and sprinting around to avoid attacks.
Me too. No problem beating this game with dodge only.
I sucked at parrying in this game and still managed to beat it just fine. It definitely took longer than it would have, had I taken the time to really get good at it. I just really had a very hard time getting the timing right, so instead of continuously getting murdered while trying to parry, I realied on dodging and guard regain instead. There are many different ways to beat this game. Honestly you could just spam throwables at pretty much every single boss and breeze through it without ever dying. So, learning how to parry definitely isn't necessary.
yeah i agree. sekiro definitely not but lies of p is doable without parrying.
@@rhyswhittington8759 I was very good at parrying in Sekiro. I breezed through it 4 times in a row to get every ending, and every trophy. By the third game I could get through without ever dying. The parry systems are very different between the two games. Sekiro is just a hair better than LOP. They're both still amazing games, though.
@@bradleyblake7588 agreed. i was not good at parrying and sekiro for me was easily the hardest fromsoft game to this day. my first sekiro playthough almost broke me. that platinum was torture haha. theres something off about the parrying in lies of p though. i think its because you have to commit to it and it you do it early you cant do it again for a second. might also be the lightning fast movements of some enemies with the slow parry that feels off.
Brother the record “Feel” that you get in the begging is in my top 3 fav songs right now.
On my second play through now. In my experience, what works for LOP is the fact that, you are actually encouraged to use all your defensive options.
As in, the game implies to you that parrying is important, but actually, the game is so much easier if you use all 4 defensive options. Those being “Parrying”, “Dodging”, “Blocking”, and “Run the fuck away”.
Blocking looks weak at first, but the more you play, the more you will realize “wait I don’t have to parry the whole combo, I can just block it and rally back my health”. And for fury attacks, you don’t have to learn how to parry all of them, some are just much easier to dodge outside the hitbox instead.
As a result, “optimal play” for different player and playstyles can vary a lot, and it doesn’t feel like there is a single “correct” playstyle like Sekiro.
Different builds also encourages different defensive strategies. For example, the Two Dragon Blade costs a lot of stamina to R1, which means you don’t have much stamina to dodge with s. However, your R1 repositions you, so “position yourself to not get hit” often becomes the optimal defense option.
One of the things that Lies of P does so well is original music. This is so evident in the records you can collect. You don't have to listen to them but if you do you are not only rewarded with character progression but the music itself is so damn good that even those moments feel just as satisfying as the combat. In fact I love that you have to go back to the Hotel to play them. In those moments I find myself reflecting on my progress thus far and begin to get excited for as to what comes next.
These are actually reworked songs that neowiz has been involved with before in a game called DJMax (I believe). Most, if not all, the songs were originally created years prior. However, I feel like the reworks are masterful in adding depth to LoP
Interesting. I did not know that
I think you're mistaking something about Dark Souls' combat: it's _supposed_ to be focused on the enemies over the player. It's a game where you have to always be on the look out for opportunities to attack bosses and attack them then rather than on your own terms (unless your build facilitates that).
Dark Souls is a game where bosses tell the player, "Die", as they bounce around the battlefield and hit you with everything they have, and the player's response is, "No, I don't think I will". You don't beat bosses, they try to beat you and, after taking the beating, you say, "Is that all you've got?", before walloping them.
If you like Lies of P's combat over Dark Souls', that's okay, but what the two games' combat try to achieve are entirely different. They're different in the same way that Dark Souls and Bloodborne combat is different: one is slow and methodical, where you have to balance defense and offence, while the other is aggressive, where your offence is also your defense.
Lies of P is wasy easier too. And from what I can tell there are no early on traps like in Dark souls. Lies of P is inspired by souls but for sure its own methodical action style.
Fantastic video! I'm glad to hear someone echo so many of my thoughts formed while and after playing it completely blind. I'm baffled by the negative response and can't wait to receive some of it myself when I finally put out my video on the souls games too
Absolutely magnificent video. You blew my mind with your theory about aggressiveness in parry, I realized I lean forward when I try to parry lol. Also beautiful finish. Keep it up like that, and Lies of P goty.
Finally someone who shares the love this game deserves
There is something that every single developer overlooks while designing... The weight of the characters and the rythm used in walking animation, that can convey the power of the build but it always lacks
Seriously! I’ve felt this way forever.
I am immediately drawn to or critical of a game based on the core animations...especially walking/running since that’s usually the primary means of travel. They don’t have to be hyper realistic but they need to make sense for the character and look fluid. Something about a wonky walk/run just rubs me the wrong way.
awesome video bro, your GASPs out of nowhere jump scared me a couple times LOL
One of the best videos I have ever watched, the Song at the end was the chery on top!
Thank you so much!! :')
I really love this game. I played through it 3 times to get the 100% on steam. It is great to see that some competion emerges in this monopolized by Fromsoftware sub genre.(Dont take it wrong I am in awe of their games everytime I play them) I hope that more studios will emerge with more brave ideas that will push the genre into an even brighter future.
Whatever this studio does next might actually be INSANE. I'm here for it I cannot wait :')
@@Sputnik34 Looking at what rolled after the credits in LOP I am in your boat man
@@kortogon I unironically pogged 😂
monopolized by FromSoftware ? They fking invented it what are you talking about ?
@@Stefan-gz6jm Yes they did. Monopolised is not a good word for that I am aware of this but I couldnt find any better that would convey what I think about the current state of Souls genre so I rolled with this one
As someone who has never played lies of P, I agree.
You're so real for this
Another method of avoiding enemy attacks that gives even MORE options to the player is that most enemies in Lies of P have a pretty short reach, and therefore, simply running away or dancing around them is often pretty effective - even against most fury attacks! I definitely relied on that fact before I knew the attack timings. Elden Ring is equally dear to my heart, but it was kind of refreshing when Lies of P tended to pit me against bosses smaller than buildings, whose attacks didn't sweep the entire arena.
Did you even play Lies of P for more than 20 minutes? The first boss is large and has aoe attacks. I will freely admit the bosses and enemies are not overdone in size like Elden Ring, but there are plenty of large mobs in that game, including bosses. Some enemies may have short reach, but there are also plenty that have long reach. The clown that throws out his fists? Laxasia and the spear that is 50 feet long all of a sudden? Laxasia when she does her upward swipe attack combo can also skate forward and track you. The game is good but I'm tired of people ignoring things like this to make a point that doesn't exist.
All Souls likes are janky? Yet all Soulsborne games are janky.
I stumbled across this video on complete chance and it’s beautiful to see someone who shares the same love for this game. I never played any souls game besides Elden ring and started sekiro and because of this parry system it has pushed me to excel at sekiro. Also, the ending had the best heart warming moment with the Facination (Golden). Best song on the OST
i'm so happy you found it! the OST is incredible but Facination (Golden) is easily one of the best. It's that, Memory Of Beach, or Feel for my #1
Not beating elden ring is crazy tbh
edit: never mind you’re just a contrarian
you saw the list, didn't you
Something I love about Fromsoft, something that's absolutely revolutionary in this era, is that they never once take away your agency. In absolutely none of their games are you forced to walk just so characters can explain the plot to you. This is a key element of what makes their games so replayable, and it's never talked about.
The game company Neowiz is also produced skul right and i thought it would be big at the demo times
Started playing soulslikes in my 40s, so i think that helps me be more open to new games. I cut my teeth on elden ring, bloodborne and sekiro. I played them at about the same time. Beating sekiro felt amazing, learning to play the game as intended and actually doing it felt amazing.
In Sekiro, you don't level up your character, you level up your self 😂
@@20starterblue23 You do level up your character.
And in any souls game you do level up yourself.
It's the same thing
You definitely haven't understood the system Nioh has in place properly and this is the issue i see most fromsoft players have with the game. You don't need to sit in the menu and meticulously go through each gear piece as you are progressing. There are levels and rarities and simple damage numbers which exist in every game of this type, while also having 2 main stats to look into being weight and toughness stuff that exists in all of these types of games. Additional effects are simply that additional effects you can search and look at what they are but while u progress through the game you do not need that. These buffs give you some of the most extensive build variety of any action combat game out there in the end game. You get your loot and build whatever you want, that's the endgame of nioh. What Dark souls games force you into for the most part is sticking with 1 weapon due to the lack of upgrade material, this is incredibly limiting in terms of build and doesn't allow experimentation on the part of the player and is there to create a fake sense of replay value in these games, meanwhile in nioh you can pick up whatever gear piece, build and weapon you want you can experiment so incredibly much with it that it's simply incredible. Nioh has a bunch of other flaws, i.e the enemy balancing and some level design elements. Nioh 2 fixes every issue and improves the game 1000 fold and is the ultimate game of this genre and has yet to be dethroned. Highly recommend it to everyone who hasn't tried it
Thanks for the good content my dude. This is a really well done video.
Lies Of P is all I Wanted in a Souls Game. PERFECT... A Game where I don't need to Google whatever, it's all there. You just need to play it...
Aside from your Dark Souls 3 take (not sure what's going on there), I agree with everything in this video. Your parrying vs dodging explanation is brilliant and really eye opening when you think about what makes a game like this more engaging. Really shows how important and influential the introduction of the mechanics in Sekiro were to the genre. I just got this game a couple days ago, but I'm about 6 hours in and completely hooked. There have always been moments in fromsoftware games where I'll think to myself "I'm not a fan of this boss/area," but so far I haven't had any of those thoughts with this game, but rather every new boss or area I come across I love even more than the last one. This is easily my game of the year, and great effort with the video.
as someone who has beaten vanilla ds3 twice, and modded a further two times, I also do not like ds3, I don't understand why nobody agrees 😭
@@icantthinkofanamerightnow7967 Because it has the best bosses in gaming history, and its just the souls formula expanded in great ways, dont know why you don't like it
@@brashminecraft2300 areas in DS3 are much more tunnelly and the need of Making boss harder made the gameplay much more flat since in the end you fighting them all in the same way which makes the game very repetitive on subsequent playthroughs
@@unimportant719Absolute nonsense. You having that opinion should be have you put on a list
@@JustAPersonalUseBarb answer my points instead of saying”nuh uh”without refuting anything
I played a lot of DS3 and something never felt right about it
I haven’t had such a visceral, in-love reaction to a game since my first playthrough of ER. I freaking LOVE this game and can’t wait to see what else this studio has in store for us
I had the exact same reaction to this game! It blew me away! Easily my GOTY! The last game that I loved instantly and hooked me completely was Returnal! Can't wait for the dlc and sequel! It is astonishing what Round 8 was able to achieve here!
*Sees Dark Souls 3 is at the bottom of your list* "What the absolute fuck?"
*You say you don't play for the bosses and instead play for the level design* "Oh, yep. That checks out 100%"
I can't tell if you're upset at me or understand where I'm coming from lmao
does sneeg have a cracked version of infernal origins? why can he place blocks during boss battles?
the amount of time the potion regen come clutch on a boss fight in this game is actually wtf
It's BRILLIANT
After only playing Elden Ring before Lies of P, it has instantly been skyrocketed to one of my top games of all time.
You said so, you only played Elden ring xd for people who came from all Miyazaki’s games this is just a “good” soulslike
@@Elieli09 considering Elden ring is there pinnacle. That's a pretty stupid comment to make. It's a masterpiece of a game. Ignore what From soft have made.
@@ashleygray1632 I wouldn't say Elden Ring was their pinnacle, it's not even their best to date. The size of it, and the open world crippled the formula somewhat imo.
@@Elieli09I’ve played all fromsoft’s souls games and Lies of P is better imo than at least DeS, DS1 and DS2.
@@Elieli09I’ve played all fromsoft’s souls games and Lies of P is better imo than at least DeS, DS1 and DS2.
Good vid. I'll not talk about that "ranking" or most comments you made about other souls games but the stuff actually on lies of p were good.
Quick correction there is NO stat requirements for ANY weapon. But they do SCALE with different attributes. You can equip any weapon at any level without penalty
I cried when i saw Sophia sitting the bird cage. This story hurts my soul. So well thought out.
I shed some serious tears and I still don’t know which choice is right 🥺
@@SubsNoVids-il4lf giving her peace is what she asked for so i never questioned what was right. she said shes been through so much pain:(
You cried? C'mon bro.
@@geremyas1373 Yeah, I actually teared up too! 😢
Not everyone is as "cool" as you. 😓
Some people are more emotional than others you know. 🙄
@@geremyas1373 Ah yes because people can't show emotions smh...
You really don't need to spend time in menus in Nioh, just pick up everything you see and between every few missions just sell it all or convert your stuff into materials. If you do happen to get a rarer piece of armor/weapon then it's worthwhile to check it immediately, but otherwise you can just skip the menu hell entirely, so it's not really that different from dark souls.
that's a fair point! maybe i'll give the game a go with that mindset again sometime
What's that game at 19:08?
Chessplosion
Wow!! This is a great video and it explains the game mechanics so well. I am new to the souls games but Lies of P has peaked my interested into the genre. Thanks!!
I finished Lies of P and it was hard but I loved it. Then I went to Lords of the fallen. And that made me realize how much of a quality game that P was. Neowiz pulled off something that can actually compete and I hope they expand on it with that Wizard of Oz ending. Maybe give us some good
DLC's. Then another release with feedback from fans. I have high hope for this company.
Different strokes. I really did not enjoy Lies of P. I'm in love with Lords of the Fallen
@@synnical77 I like them both, I just think the teams had different niches they were trying to build out.
LotF built exploration and interconnectedness so so so much more and the whole world is seamless. If you don’t have performance issues, it’s a really great game.
Lies of P in contrast is mostly hallway type levels and it isn’t bad but it’s not nearly as intricate or impressive to explore. The combat, however, is tighter in many ways to its credit. The only feature it really feels off to not have is the weapon switching from LotF.
Overall they’re both great. I just prefer the block/parry/dodge split in Lies of P, and the story it’s telling.
I never touched Soulsborne games because I'm a sucker for a story. I don't like it when I have to watch 45 lore yt videos to explain to me the lore and story of the main characters or the world I'm in. I also hate the medieval setting, I never said those games are bad, just not for me. When I saw the LoP announcement vid I knew I'd get this game because it tapped all the right chords (at that time) for me. Setting, aesthetics, character/enemies design, atmosphere. When the demo dropped I played it for 8h, getting good at parrying and feeling so good when I got that satisfying *cling* sfx and the weapons of the enemies/bosses breaking. I grew to love all its characters, felt for the NPCs and the unnamed people of Krat, LOVED the battle even through NG+3. This game is GOTY for me and I feel so privileged to have played and appreciate it. Subbed.
ETA: I must've spent 2h in-game just listening to the random accordion songs that are played through the city's windows. This game is oozing atmosphere and world story telling.
thanks so much :') WE MUST SPREAD THE GOOD WORD OF P
Just to say you're missing out on so much dope lore. The FS series are just so dense that you have hours of lore. I get that you dont like it, but you can still listen to them like an audio book.
@@victord.monkey9081 There's many people that have commented that to me when I start mentioning the reason I don't play FS games and I appreciate all those that are trying to suggest the games for me, but if I have to listen to an audio book, am I still immersed in what I'm doing in-game? Also, like I said, medieval/fantasy settings are not my cup of tea. I did hear some rumors about Bloodborne being remade and I might give that one a try!
Play the souls games im sure you'll love them
@@victord.monkey9081that’s a lot of work for someone who likes stories to be told IN GAME lmao I’m that someone
who knew making your game more fun than frustrating would be a winning strat
I got no skin in this game, I just wanted to say that Fromsoftware fans are probably the most annoying fanbase in gaming.
No fan base is safe lmao
@SPREET5454 you could not be more of a lying, biased loser 😂
Fromsoft fans are honest, thats all. Taking away the very few exeptions were I would agree with you (Krisblade discussion in the ds remake), they just tell you what you need to hear. Be honest, most of the time when they say "git gud" its bechause you were bad.
I always found that the dodge roll is just a very unrealistic thing to be spammed. Like if you look at any fight in any medium, the dodge roll is something that is very rarely utilized in melee. I found that The Witcher 3 was genius with it's side step mechanic, where dodge roll was still an option, but you could side step attacks to counter faster which made much more sense realistically and didn't look stupid. Blocking and parrying is also way, way more cinematic and satisfying because you feel like you are not the victim of the boss. I really hate the souls games because they make the player feel like a victim of the boss, as all bosses are 3 times bigger than you, can't be interrupted, deal more damage, have more moves etc. Blocking and parrying, when executed successfully brings back that feeling of control. Similar to the mechanic of healing by dealing damage in Bloodborne, I feel like it's obsoletely crucial for games to bring back these sort of mechanics in future installments based on how much depth they add for a very small price.
Go play Sekiro if you want to play a parry based game that does everything better than Lies of P.
While FromSoft brought so much innovation to boss movement (which is something I actually like), the most noticeable change to player movement they did in Elden Ring is the ability to jump without running.
I was going to comment about my experience with Lies of P (of which was good), but I think the more important thing to comment is just how happy it makes me to hear you just gush and genuinely loving a game so much. Just an such enjoyable video.
My p-organ is gushing
I know I’m going to get criticized for this BUT this game, while challenging, isn’t as hard as everyone says it is. It’s not easy but it’s very approachable and forgiving.
It’s so perfect for a souls-like 😭😭😭😭
Malum District item grind loop made me realize that the devs want you to use your throwable items VERY liberally since there's a vendor who sells unlimited amounts of most of this type of item. Once I knew I could just throw Thermites and the like to my heart's content to stack elemental damage on bosses from a distance and close in to do boosted corresponding elemental melee damage and absolutely SHRED bosses on either the first or second attempt after a bit of observation.
Yes, I'm technically a Souls vet, but this game is definitely the most "beginner friendly" in the genre; and all without compromising the challenge and difficulty we expect from them.
I remember when the game director released only two images for the dlc. And the official lies of p lore channel were talking for hours
Tbh with you, I love this game so much. The aesthetic, the mechanics, the environmental storytelling, I loved how sad yet amazing this game feels. This game became my second favourite soul game ever right beside Sekiro. The only complaint I would say it has for me is the perfect parry window frame. But that may be just me still learning or being bad with my timing
The parry time window is fine honestly, it’s pretty easy to get the hang of , especially if you are use to playing games that require good hand-to-eye coordination.
@@itstroy4145 Then I'm just bad with my timing 🤧
@@JeisRaul don’t get me wrong though, there are literal gods out there at this game that barely miss parries lol I don’t know how they do it but it is satisfying once you get somewhat of a grip on it
I have beaten LoP, and i actually agree with pretty much everything this guys just said in the review. But like you, I have only 1 very small "complaint", and that too is the parry window. I would really have liked a parry window that was just a TINY bit easier to hit, and then i think all bosses and enemies should get more HP to balance it, and perhaps a little less guard regain.
Besides that I have no complaints!
Now I will get my redemption and beat Sekiro! The only game from FS i haven't beaten!
@slappemor1 If you loved Lies of P systems of parrying, then you would love sekiro's one. And the bosses *chef kiss*
Lies of p is my game of the year so far! Outstanding fun game . They nailed it . Hit a home run.
One thing I never hear anyone talk about when they mention the guard recovery system, is it doesn’t just rally if you hit the enemy but you also rally when perfect guarding, turning a defensive mechanic into an offensive mechanic on top of causing the enemy to be groggy or break their weapon makes your options to rally more engaging in how you wanna regain health. And how you wanna be aggressive, be it damage or poise/weapon health
what was that chess game that wasnt shotgun king?
I believe it was called Chessplosion
Cannot wait for the DLC, I hope it’s not as linear and same with the sequel.
I’d like to see more customization options also, like being able to choose what coat, shirt, and pants you can wear instead of just one big outfit. Maybe dyes also
Lie of p look pretty good, I'll try it when it goes on sale. I'm more of a nioh 2 stan. The combat in that game makes me say, "Oh good heavens, im about to splurge." The crack addled switchglave bayblade combat is beautiful.
Ok, I finished the video now. I am happy you are enjoying Lies of P, and I plan to experience it soon. I would suggest if you are up for it in the future, try out the souls games with out a shield, don't spam dodge and instead use dodges to move into an attack position. And Sekrio does have dodge/evade sidestep mechanic as well as the step off. I am surprised you said that it doesn't.
Have you ever played steel rising
The reason for me that lies of P is so good is that it takes the good from soulslike games and then adds its own elements and mechanics to improve upon it. The appeal of these games is the difficult enemies, realistic combat e.g. parry, side step, roll, block etc. and customisation of combat through weapons and abilities. A lot of studios get inconvenience/annoying/tedious mixed up with difficulty and thats what ruins some titles e.g. lords of the fallen.
A game thats not a soulslike but takes these elements really well is god of war, some bosses in this game are close to the difficulty of the hardest souls bosses e.g. sigrun, god king etc
This has been one of the video games where I gave myself the opportunity to get to know this genre and the truth is that I was captured by this game. Its design never pleased me with this genre but now I enjoy it more and it gives me the opportunity to try other games like from software
I appreciate your input on Nioh, I’ve never played but after seeing that armor menu I am good 🤣 good video overall bro
Missing out on peak🔥
I’ve been playing it for 5 days, and so far I’m hooked! Great vid
This is the only game I tried to finish thrice. The weapon builds and stat builds are really really interesting for experimentation!
Elden ring did it better!
@@TheCursedOni I played it too along with the other souls series, but kinda liked this game better. I was hesitant to play this game at first (I was expecting its another souls rip-off), but I really loved the game and its mechanics.
@@TheCursedOnino it didn't. That game is garbage after run 1. Boring af
@@jedagoncilloallot of people, prominent people in the souls area, are saying the same. This game is just better and the from stans, of which I was one, need to grow up. Every king falls. Elden was overrated to begin with. Check the user scores. Elden sits at a 7
@@johndodo2062I kinda think so too. I enjoyed playing Elden Ring, but I liked this game better. It took some elements from other souls games but man, did not expect that this game did it better. Even my kids love it. haha
I think the key aspect a lot of 'souls-likes' miss, along with Lies of P, is the ability to get lost and veer off path.
Dark Souls, Bloodbourne, Sekiro have a level of mystery with them that has not been replicated in the same mysterious way. The ability to veer off of path, or go somewhere completely different and realise there is an obstuction/path that cannot be accessed until you reach a certain level of progression in another area is invaluable.
An example in DS1 - You have 7 locations from the get go that are all woven together. For example you CAN go into the catacombs right at the start, however you will reach the yellow blocked door that you cannot access until later. This feeling of 'oh wow ive discovered this, but i need something to get past it', is CRUCIAL to the feeling of awe and mystery that Souls games posess.
Even bloodbourne which is more linear. After Cathedral ward you can choose different paths to venture down that converge or serve purpose to another location that you have to find.
yep this is my problem with lies of p i think, and why i just dont enjoy it as much as everyone else or nearly as much as the fromsoft titles, you can get lost inside of a level in lies of p, but you cant get lost inside the world
Loved this video. You nailed it
I really felt the comments you made about why the game is so good. Especially the part of the potion recharging, oh man that is satisfying. Great video!
In my opinion, Lies of P offers levels that are mainly straightforward, less interconnected than DS1 except one area you included that obviously becomes the best area. It offers combat that has less potential dedicated build variety, instead focusing on secondary numbers, and blocking even few essential combat abilities, that exist by default in every similar game, behind a skill tree. In addition, it offered a demo which had less showcase than Nioh's beta demo that featured 4 or 5 levels and bosses instead of 3. Also, the game featured bosses that were less memorable than your least favorite from software game mostly cranking the difficulty by adding random numbers to attack timings while not telegraphing correctly.
However, it offered a better durability system that turned it into a management mini game, mix and match mechanic and a rally system that has been implemented in a more superior way in Lords of the Fallen with its Metacritic score of 72.
I can't see it ruining Dark Souls for me to be real, guess we are all happy with ourselves! Wish you all the best though, I just stated my personal experience as you did. Cheers🤗
It's all a moot point anyways since without 15 years of Souls we'd never have gotten LoP anyhow. Whether it ruins or not is secondary to the fact that From created a genre, whilst LoP is simply an entry in that genre.
Immediate red flags and alarms when he mentioned DS2 and not followed it up by “the worst souls game to date”
Ds2 is #1 in my heart
@@Sputnik34 I don't understand it, but I respect it! :D
I doubt you've even played DS2
@@ApotheNZ I've beaten it 9 times
@@Sputnik34 not you
That message at the beginning filled me with such glee, I already have LoP and I’m ready to play it… AFTER I finish everything I want to do in Bloodborne. But I get so excited to watch videos like these but am obviously scared of spoilers, seeing such a long and thorough video of lies of P, advertised as mostly spoiler free is really great.
I never played any souls or souls like games, but I really like how this game looks and I’m interested in the story and trying out the mechanics. Would you guys recommend this to someone who never played these types of games? The only things that are putting me off are that it might be too hard for me and that I won’t understand anything since I haven’t played any of the other games you mentioned.
I think LoP is a great entry point into the genre!
@@Sputnik34 Thank you for the super fast reply! I’ll give it a shot but since my only RPG experience are Skyrim and The Witcher saga I don’t think I’ll get very far in this game before rage quitting 😅
You’ve earned a new sub anyways!
@@stefanolujic9999 just be patient! I was apparently wrong in my assertion that dodging isn't super viable. You can dodge pretty well in the game but I seriously stuck to almost exclusively parrying.
@@Sputnik34 Parrying seems way more fun and seems like the devs intended it to be the primary defense mechanic, plus the animation for perfect parries is really satisfying.
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
As someone who never played a souls like untill Lies of P, this was an amazing game to get into the genre
agreed! it made me fall in love with the genre, but i’m afraid others won’t be as good
@@lunarraebloodborne, sekiro, ds3 and demon souls are way better than lies of p
@@yenes3236 cool!
@@lunarraeand dark souls 1 and Elden ring
@@Sean-gy4ej i actually loved elden ring, but it’s been a while since i’ve played it.
Bro HOW haven't you beaten Elden Ring yet?! Get on it! Surely you can't have very much of your playthrough left
It takes me 2 to 3 days to get through anything in that game.. I can't even differentiate which ones are bosses anymore.
I absolutely LOVED that in NG+ you get additional P-organ trees that are super powerful. It made playing the game into NG++ an absolute treat