I’m still subscribed 😅👍. Very odd though. If I could speak freely I’d say that I wonder if money has changed hands 🤔. I can’t say that though, I’m just saying … 😂
I subscribed ages ago, then not long ago (3 weeks ish) I noticed that I was not subscribed anymore. I re subscribed straight away but unsure how it had happened.
I can actually see that happening as once they colapse the current financial system they will begin their property redistribution and many migrants will be housed into rural areas and they will need transport.
Yep your right, I used to install cctv in marine environments from industrial to seaside towns, all the kit used was made using marine grade materials sold at an enhanced rate. Was it worth it, no, not really, it may have added 18 months to the product life. A Salt air environment may as well be dilute sulfuric acid!
I had an amazing A3 1.6TDI saloon which gave incredible fuel efficiency but had to chop it in thanks to the b****y ULEZ charge in London. I now have a less efficient petrol car.
My 7 years old Leaf with almost 70k on clock never has seen mechanic. It's a free car for me because the amount of money I saved on mechanics / fuel savings made a car paid for itself compared to petrol car .
I know many electric heads trying to do just that and it's hilarious watching them trying to plot their trips to Europe that way 😂. Each to their own but I just piss myself watching them trying to stick a square peg in a round hole
On my way up 't North I pulled into a service station and saw a guy sitting at a charging point. I filled up, had a mean, coffee and a nice long chat came out and left when I notice the same guy still sitting there reading a book. I did chuckle at his holier than thou virtue signaling. Or maybe he was just an idiot!!
I'm sure this is why car insurance is going up every year, they can't make EV's more affordable so they'll make owning ICE vehicles way more expensive.
just think back too your first car.. I bet many of us had a little banger/runner round that was very cheap to run and insure as well as very cheap too repair... NOW apply that logic too an EV... They are forcing people off the road via the back door with EV, as new drivers simple can't afford them in 99% of all cases....
I attended a car auction a couple of days ago; the majority of petrol and diesel cars sold. There were 27 EVs, all under 3 years old, and not one of them sold (some didn't even raise a starting bid).
If just one of them get thermal runaway, all of them will have immediately have zero range. 😂 Might be the ultimate solution, since they are not very recycle friendly. (Sorry for everyone in a 50/100 km range)
Actually that's not true Batteries slowly discharge Leaving Lithium batteries empty encourages internal dendrite within the battery to to grow. As they grow toward the poles you lose capacity Also as dendrite form then like seeding anything you attract more rapidly the growth of the dendrite. Meaning the battery will degrade and fail faster than a battery that's in use.
@@MauricedeBoer Excellent 😄 my Volvo V70 P2 was 18 years old when I sold it last year, had no rust whatsoever, even underneath, had it 8 years myself, but never let me down, had a few issues yes, but not bad enough to cause a breakdown during my ownership ! But Volvo's made under Ford's ownership are another story, they cut corners during that time, but I do believe they have restored the build quality once they were sold leaving Ford ownership behind them !
Was at the supermarket earlier and an electric van nearly backed into an elderly couple in the car park.. The driver said he didn't see them. The elderly couple said they did not hear it. They are supposed to make a noise by law but the elderly cant hear them as well as us younger folks.
A similar thing happened to me. I was alsmost run over by a Hyundai outside my local Tesco. I just did not hear it coming! I waved my apology to the driver who then silently drove away!
@@geoffas I'm 58 so no zombie earbuds for me and an old 3G android phone in my pocket. The Hyundai driver was turning as I was crossing the roadway to the shop but, it was virtually dead silent. I did look before stepping out but as he was behind some parked cars I didn't notice him, nor him me I suspect. As for the Green Cross Code man, well he went to the Dark side (Darth Vader) didn't he? I wouldn't trust him anymore!
Met a guy a couple of years ago on holiday whose family own a Renault dealership in Belgium, they were trying to sell up because Renault were forcing the dealerships to sell EV's yet not many people were buying them, the dealers make little profit on the car and hardly anything on servicing because there's nothing to really service on them. But to accomodate EV's, all the equipment has to be replaced, the bays in the service area have to be twice as wide because of the dangers which means less bays for ICE cars, the mechanics have to be trained in electronics at a course cost of 8000 euros, which also means they want higher wages. Dealers do not want to sell EV's, although they're having to push them, so they have to smile and say it's the future. It's a massive scandle caused by ill thought-out government policies. Wait till the fleet sale government deals get stopped!!!
So have all the rest vw BMW porche Renault Citeron ford Kia all car manufacturers will go bust in the next couple of years and remember people will start paying stealth taxes because no one is paying vrt or any new vehicle car tax which runs into the billions every year for the exchecker
The UK just imported about 4,800 into Bristol docks with the plan to sell them for under £10k, nothing in this world would induce me to buy a sand box on wheels.
That's the problem, they are still expensive even though the entire industry, charging network, electricity and purchase price are heavily subsidised. It's the first vehicle on earth to exist entirely on welfare fraud.
They just don't make sense to me in any way, for any price. I never want to be in a car where I have to be worrying about where i am going to charge it? How long it is going to take? Will there be a queue? Will the charger be working? Life is precious, you only get one go around. You could not pay me to waste me life charging a car.
Serpentza channel recently exposed catastrophic failures plaguing China's flagship EV brand and China's institutional culture of covering up anything that threatens to harm perceptions of Chinese workmanship.
@@imbonkers3629 They have been given £2.3 billion in aid between 2016 and 2021 and the UK gov just agreed this "We are providing a guarantee to the World Bank to enable them to provide an additional $1 billion of climate finance to India." so WHO paid for it buddy???
Iv'e had 3 vehicles in 20 years, current van is a 2005 and iv'e had almost 10 faultless years of driving it. And the 2 cars before that served me well with very low running and maintenance costs. And the purchase cost of those 3 vehicle less than £6.5k, that's just over £300 a year.
It's so amusing that EVangelists believe petrol heads won't buy EVs due to ignorance, when the reality is that they don't buy EVs because they're intelligent. Nobody in their right mind would waste good money on what is essentially a boat anchor attached to a 30 mile tether connected to a home charger. Fine if you only ever drive to the other end of your street, but not so great if you want to use your EV as an actual car.
"Abiotic" crude oil that renews, not so-called "fossil fuel" - but that's another whole giant rabbit hole in itself. . . Upside-down world - black is white & white is black.
One thing that crossed my mind is that at least the idiots who are driving or trying to drive round in their EV are making a little more space for us at the fuel pumps etc.
@@xperyskop2475 Fine for you but not for everybody else ! & you may find now that your car is worthless ! If you have tonnes of money you've nothing to worry about !
@xperyskop Please do a real world calculation- if you sold it today for cash, what's the difference in buy-sell price? Add that to total running costs then divide by milage. That's your real world cost per mile. My old vdub diesel costs me 9.2p per mile. And it's appreciating in value!
These Battery only cars will have major problems from day one when they are finally sold, as the battery will have run completely flat and then sat for months flat! When it is well known once left to go flat for any time the battery will not recover to full power. The other thing is will the company still honour the guarantee on the whole car? Will the insurance industry actually insure them?
From a safety aspect doubtless the strategy WILL BE to not recharge any of those vehicles in recognition of the thermal runaway risk. Inevitably those batteries are not new and will have degraded; potentially greatly and to a much less safe condition so what we are seeing is a Beta test at play with consequences that may be significantly detrimental to the EV narrative especially if fast charger abuse subsequently accelerates the danger. Currently there is a lot of solar activity (six solar direct hit flares) and a lot of magnetospheric disruption that may lead to a Carrington Event and foreshorten this whole Electric Utopia; especially when the satellites are fried and there is no Telecoms, no GPS, no Internet and numerous fried power transformers. Modern vehicles engine management systems can also be fried and we could be back in the stone age in hours. The whole pack of cards is imminently going to fall down. Why merely Build Your Dream when you can enjoy a full colour surround-sound Nightmare?
In Southampton docks there are thousands of Teslas all parked up waiting to be ordered, imagine getting an EV that's been parked up for over a year what state are the batteries, lets not think about the corrosion.
I was watching this video whilst walking to the school pick up and have just tripped over an EV cable running across the public path into someone's Tesla 😅 there's some kind of message there😂
And of course, those subsidies only go to those who are already well- off. Companies do not give a company car or car allowance to the lowest paid or most junior workers in my experience and cannot afford large monthly outgoings on buyer schemes.
about unsold EV's. Rimac Nivera, the worls fastest ev, has 100 unsold cars.. they have produced 150,and sold 50 of them. The president of Rimac said in an interview that "Ev's are not magic anymore" (or something.. translating from a swedish site) usually these cars sell out, but .. well.. he also said something about apple watch vs a nice analog watch. The apple watch can do everything, but no one is paying $200k for one, like they do for a analog clock.
I will be taking one off Toyota's hands when I return to the USA. It must not be too bad as dealers in the USA are still asking a premium for any Toyota car, but the defective Tacoma trucks can be had at MSRP.
I only see petrol/diesel zealots giving cash away at fuelling stations. I bought an electric car because it was much much cheaper to run it for my daily commute . If you like your mechanics and your petrol station attendant and oil companies keep driving petrol/diesel
Electric cars are better at some jobs! It was called milk floats... Short distance Early morning Slow stop and start .... But for some reason they stopped using them about 20yrs ago
Burnaston built Toyota Corolla /Auris that run over 20 years and 500.000 miles without significant issues. Thas good for the environment. You need multiple EVs to go the same
Try a road trip to Spa in Belgium for the F1 Grand Prix. My wife shared the driving with me from Edinburgh to Spa, all on one tank of diesel. Under 14 hours. A middle class EV would have taken over 20 hours, and we would have missed the Friday night party !
And the cells in those batteries have a 'use by' date. It's a few years, but been sitting in a port for a year or more, it's already second hand when new...........
Who'd have thought that people who aren't getting pay risers despite high inflation and companies recording record profits don't buy really expensive cars
I just put a deposit down on a reliable, dependable, fuel sipping, long lasting ice Toyota Corolla. Based on my yearly mileage, it will take approximately 40 years to accumulate the same amount of miles that my current ice car has on it now. This is tremendously good for the environment as the manufacturer will not have to make several new cars to replace the one I'll be driving well into the future. You've got to look at the tremendously green effect of ice cars not being disposable like EVs.
I've noticed increasing adverts by Vauxhall stating you can go electric for same monthly payment as equivalent petrol or diesel model....... Desperation creeping in ?
Im guessing at that shipping port, A diesel Range Rover will park outside the pound, then 2 days later the diesel will self ignite and take out the thousands of EVs ending in a little insurance claim 🤔
Had a 123,brilliant car... Had a 124, evolutionary superior to an already brilliant car...now got a 1971 Crown and a 1990 e34,both great,but not a patch on the W123 & 4. Both benzes rusted out in just the wrong places,within a few inches of subframes and chassis points...salty roads man.
They’re a million mile motor if looked after well. I’ve had several 190s and 124s. In 2005 I bought a ten year old 124 estate with 100k on clock for £2,500 . Kept it for ten years and did another 160k with it. Then sold it for £500. Cheap motoring for ten years. They go on forever.
To be fair, Merc still make better diesels than most. The OM642 used in most modern Mercs on the road is capable of a few hundred k miles. The oil cooler seals will fail every 100-150k and the bluetec sensors will let you down at some point, but they are generally pretty solid. Fuel economy is also almost magical for a 3 litre engine, even when used in heavy cars like the S class. I did South-London to Blackpool in an S350bluetec (297 miles) and the car was saying it had 900 miles left in the tank
I had to fill up my ICE car today, only 3 weeks since I last filled up, and it took nearly five minutes! I wish I had an EV I could charge every day at an hour a time.
10 years ago i bought a Lexus 400h Hybrid from a dealer in Belfast who dealt purely in Lexus and mercedes.....we flew over collected it.....a fantastic buy, the engine was like new. I did replace the cam belt and radiator at 1000k ..since then its been an absolute dream..I would never consider buying an EV ..never..I hoping to hang onto `Lexxy` for another 10 years..PS. Belfast was a great city and the people there were fantastic.and a trip to Titanic exhibition too.. great experience all round..
A brilliant video just fallen across Geoff like you my car is 2004 ROVER 75 CONNOISSEUR SE CDTI and has 186000 miles on the clock and will see off most Evs with performance so good look on the Benidorm Trip with Lee Cheers Keith x
Imagine buying a Chinese EV that has been sitting at a seaside port when more than half of Chinese EV manufacturers have gone bankrupt over the last five years and more than half of the remaining ones are expected to go bankrupt over the next few years as well. Many of those cars will get scrapped new.
Burning fuel to make electricity wastes 40% of the fuel to get the electricity to the charger. Charging the car wastes 40-60% converting it from AC to DC. Wireless wastes another 40%. Then the batteries waste another 20% keeping the batteries warm or cool. We are WAY better off burning the fuel to move the car at 25% efficiency.
16:06 hey Geoff..I did that last year in a V70 D3.. North of the Netherlands to Spain and back. 2 tanks of diesel. Come and visit, here, while Lee charges his car😉😁
Most electric car show the car zooming through some amazing secluded mountain pass or prairie. And I’m looking at the advert thinking, where the hell are the charging points in the nearest hundred miles? You’re gonna be stranded mate!
Also being sat on a harbour for months/years on end the corrosion factor on unprotected parts will also be effected and spread making the EV a bit crusty in a few years or months time.
Parasitic draw will have an interesting effect, when they sit in a discharged state long enough the point where the first dead cell reverse polarization completely kills the battery draws closer every day. Lithium cells never recover from even a minute of reverse polarity... (BTW, it happens when one cell block reaches zero volts, the remaining series cell blocks push the constant parasitic current backwards through the dead cell block). The BMS cannot prevent this from happening and often exaggerates the problem by blocking recharge due to pack imbalance. It remains the biggest killer of laptop batteries today.
My neighbor is old couple, the man bought a all suited up KIA estate EV for investment. He paid £55k for it brand new and he somehow was so convinced that he could flip it for profit. The stupid thing is they already have two big estate cars parked in the drive, why buy the 3rd car and EV for a fucking investment. I didn't say a word. That was two years ago, that fucking EV still park on the drive now and he won't back down for a big loss and the dealer won't take it back. People bought into EV, what can I say.
Dealerships are pre-registering just enough cars to avoid green penalties . The unsold units at the ports will be returned to the manufacturer. Chinese manufacturers can afford to take this mahoosive hit because the PRC govt is propping them up.
I love my 4 year old EV.and would never trade it in. BUT, I consider myself to be an ideal consumer. Driving the way I do, its the PETROL car that was troublesome, as i rerely went snywhere long enough to warm it up. I am retired. I only drive around 2500 miles a yesr. I only drive locally, never more than around 12 mile round trips. PLUS Ihave no faith in the modern engine with wet belts, sensors etc. My last one was a total money pit in that regard. I paid 20k for my 2 year old ev. Ive been on longer trips and yes, its a total horror story, but for how often i do it i can live with it. I charge my car once every 3 weeks, on a home charger overnight. My biggest concern is battery failure, but i still have 2 years of warranty left and its all planned if the battery fails later on. Yes, you guessed it. I Cannot promise you I would get a volvo, but it will be certainly older than 25 years. My ev is probably worth nowt, i dont csre. It would be scrap value and onto an old petrol. I only have around 20 years more driving anyway, and this country will have us all out of them by then anyway. I do feel for the majority of people in society though, who need tens of miles from them each dsy. For that they are not fit, and if you already have a ice car I would stick with it. I only went electric in the first place because my petrol car became scrap.
make sure you hit that subscribe button as many are finding they are unsubscribed... odd, eh?
I’m still subscribed 😅👍. Very odd though.
If I could speak freely I’d say that I wonder if money has changed hands 🤔. I can’t say that though, I’m just saying … 😂
I subscribed ages ago, then not long ago (3 weeks ish) I noticed that I was not subscribed anymore. I re subscribed straight away but unsure how it had happened.
Resubbed ,that’s twice
No Geoff, it's not odd, as every YT channel suffers from a similar lack of subs vs viewers %.
You ain't special son 😂
Stupidity is Unsustainable
They will probably give them free to an illegal immigrant at our f ing cost 🤬
Don't give the government any more business ideas.
😂😂😂😂😂
Sincerely hope that the cars don't automatically lock and the vehicle self combusts.
@@michaelhardy5186 trust China🤣
I can actually see that happening as once they colapse the current financial system they will begin their property redistribution and many migrants will be housed into rural areas and they will need transport.
Salty sea air must be wonderful for those EVs. 😛
And seagulls crapping on them
With a bit of luck
IT DOESN't affect cardboard😂
Yep your right, I used to install cctv in marine environments from industrial to seaside towns, all the kit used was made using marine grade materials sold at an enhanced rate. Was it worth it, no, not really, it may have added 18 months to the product life. A Salt air environment may as well be dilute sulfuric acid!
Exactly what I was thinking. They're going to be deteriorating so quickly... They'll be scrapped. The owner will be charged a waste disposal charge.
My 16-year-old diesel RAV4 just sailed through its MOT with zero advisories, 121,000 mi on the clock, so you can keep your EV's.
I had an amazing A3 1.6TDI saloon which gave incredible fuel efficiency but had to chop it in thanks to the b****y ULEZ charge in London. I now have a less efficient petrol car.
So.. still going strong, here.. with the V70 and 449000km. Not allowed to drive everywhere anymore, but the thing just keeps on going. 🤞
My 7 years old Leaf with almost 70k on clock never has seen mechanic. It's a free car for me because the amount of money I saved on mechanics / fuel savings made a car paid for itself compared to petrol car .
@@xperyskop2475 Wow 60 miles range on a sunny day with an old Leaf.
My 2001 golf tdi has 396,000 miles on the clock and I use it daily to commute, 53 miles each way.
Who would want to go on a touring holiday with an EV???? You’d spend half of your holiday charging your EV!!
Ah the freedom of the road! Sit and eat expensive and unhealthy food at a crappy service station whilst you wait to even get on the charger 😂
I know many electric heads trying to do just that and it's hilarious watching them trying to plot their trips to Europe that way 😂. Each to their own but I just piss myself watching them trying to stick a square peg in a round hole
But some people like to charge their high tech battery powered car 🚗 while they buy an overpriced coffee and doughnut 🍩
When was the last time you went on touring holiday ?
On my way up 't North I pulled into a service station and saw a guy sitting at a charging point. I filled up, had a mean, coffee and a nice long chat came out and left when I notice the same guy still sitting there reading a book. I did chuckle at his holier than thou virtue signaling. Or maybe he was just an idiot!!
They never took into account people can’t afford to buy a electric car 🚗 especially when they have a reliable car already 🙄
They expect everyone to jump into debt on the never ever to buy them
I'm sure this is why car insurance is going up every year, they can't make EV's more affordable so they'll make owning ICE vehicles way more expensive.
What proportion of people actually buy a new car?
I have never bought one new.
just think back too your first car.. I bet many of us had a little banger/runner round that was very cheap to run and insure as well as very cheap too repair... NOW apply that logic too an EV... They are forcing people off the road via the back door with EV, as new drivers simple can't afford them in 99% of all cases....
They did because not being able to afford one is going to be the whole point
I attended a car auction a couple of days ago; the majority of petrol and diesel cars sold. There were 27 EVs, all under 3 years old, and not one of them sold (some didn't even raise a starting bid).
What auction was that?
People are starting to wake up
Used car market hits five year high as EVs reach record share.
SMMT report April.
@@DwaynePipes bullshit
@@Norfolkbiker50
The SMMT factual report is bs?
Is that what you are saying?
And remember, batteries degrade whether or not you use them. Two years of sitting there doing nothing will affect range.
If just one of them get thermal runaway, all of them will have immediately have zero range. 😂
Might be the ultimate solution, since they are not very recycle friendly.
(Sorry for everyone in a 50/100 km range)
Actually that's not true
Batteries slowly discharge
Leaving Lithium batteries empty encourages internal dendrite within the battery to to grow. As they grow toward the poles you lose capacity
Also as dendrite form then like seeding anything you attract more rapidly the growth of the dendrite.
Meaning the battery will degrade and fail faster than a battery that's in use.
@@warrensmith4590 The chemical reaction starts breaking down from the moment the cells are constructed.
it will kill a Lithium based battery .....
An unused battery degrades faster than one that is regularly used.
Brilliant Geoff and Rick I'm 72 and just about to buy my third Volvo estate,, love them. 👍👍
Ah.. your 3rd already? You must have bought your first when you were 18
@@MauricedeBoer Excellent 😄 my Volvo V70 P2 was 18 years old when I sold it last year, had no rust whatsoever, even underneath, had it 8 years myself, but never let me down, had a few issues yes, but not bad enough to cause a breakdown during my ownership ! But Volvo's made under Ford's ownership are another story, they cut corners during that time, but I do believe they have restored the build quality once they were sold leaving Ford ownership behind them !
One of the best inventions EVER has been the INTERNAL COMBUSTION engine.
It aint broke - so why replace it....?
Was at the supermarket earlier and an electric van nearly backed into an elderly couple in the car park.. The driver said he didn't see them. The elderly couple said they did not hear it. They are supposed to make a noise by law but the elderly cant hear them as well as us younger folks.
A similar thing happened to me. I was alsmost run over by a Hyundai outside my local Tesco. I just did not hear it coming! I waved my apology to the driver who then silently drove away!
Given that so many 'zombies' walk around with earbuds in whilst staring at their phones, I expect to see many more pedestrians being injured by EVs.
@@geoffas I'm 58 so no zombie earbuds for me and an old 3G android phone in my pocket. The Hyundai driver was turning as I was crossing the roadway to the shop but, it was virtually dead silent. I did look before stepping out but as he was behind some parked cars I didn't notice him, nor him me I suspect. As for the Green Cross Code man, well he went to the Dark side (Darth Vader) didn't he? I wouldn't trust him anymore!
@@baylessnow EVs aren't totally silent... their tyres still make a noise.
@@geoffas Well just maybe my tinnitus is at the same frequency as the tyres on the not so silent car!!!
My 10 year old Suzuki S-Cross flew thru the MOT today. 1.6 petrol with no digital nonsense - long may it continue.
Met a guy a couple of years ago on holiday whose family own a Renault dealership in Belgium, they were trying to sell up because Renault were forcing the dealerships to sell EV's yet not many people were buying them, the dealers make little profit on the car and hardly anything on servicing because there's nothing to really service on them. But to accomodate EV's, all the equipment has to be replaced, the bays in the service area have to be twice as wide because of the dangers which means less bays for ICE cars, the mechanics have to be trained in electronics at a course cost of 8000 euros, which also means they want higher wages. Dealers do not want to sell EV's, although they're having to push them, so they have to smile and say it's the future. It's a massive scandle caused by ill thought-out government policies. Wait till the fleet sale government deals get stopped!!!
I am more and more convinced that this EV scam is a plan to destroy the Chinese car manufacturers,,they have gone all in with the EV bs
So have all the rest vw BMW porche Renault Citeron ford Kia all car manufacturers will go bust in the next couple of years and remember people will start paying stealth taxes because no one is paying vrt or any new vehicle car tax which runs into the billions every year for the exchecker
If it’s made in China it’s junk
Flip that you'll be right, they want all cars made in China, no one obviously listening to Clarkson, Hammond and May on Chinese Cars years back
@@paddyfitz71 Good riddance to these manufacturers. Selling nothing but crap lately.
Close. It’s mostly because China controls rare earth minerals and refinement.
Best quote ever "promise heaven and deliver hell". Spot on!
How cheap would an EV have to be before you buy one? Personally, I just can't see ANY degree of discount that would persuade me to by an EV.
Sub 1k and id consider one, but ive never owned a car worth more than 2500 so im biased I guess
The UK just imported about 4,800 into Bristol docks with the plan to sell them for under £10k, nothing in this world would induce me to buy a sand box on wheels.
That's the problem, they are still expensive even though the entire industry, charging network, electricity and purchase price are heavily subsidised. It's the first vehicle on earth to exist entirely on welfare fraud.
They just don't make sense to me in any way, for any price.
I never want to be in a car where I have to be worrying about where i am going to charge it? How long it is going to take? Will there be a queue? Will the charger be working?
Life is precious, you only get one go around. You could not pay me to waste me life charging a car.
You couldn't give me one for free!
A completely logical and intelligent conversation between you both as usual. Always great to watch.
You are a good man Geoff 🤝 TNT Radio 🔥 Rick Munn❣️
Serpentza channel recently exposed catastrophic failures plaguing China's flagship EV brand and China's institutional culture of covering up anything that threatens to harm perceptions of Chinese workmanship.
Yup
Watched that.. scary. No airbags deployed etc.
Everyone should watch that video. It's enlightening. And some others the two guys (Winston and Matt) made. Really good channel.
We will have an avalanche of "were you mis sold an electric vehicle ? " ad's soon.........The next pot of gold for the lawyers !
At to laugh 😆 India had the biggest floating solar panel farm in the world 🌎 then along came a cyclone and destroyed them all 😊
But the UK most likely paid for that as we do with their space programme.
@@noProphet550 their economy is as big as ours so I’m sure they do pay for some things 🙄
@@imbonkers3629
You've never been to India then...
@@imbonkers3629 It's actually much bigger than ours!
@@imbonkers3629 They have been given £2.3 billion in aid between 2016 and 2021 and the UK gov just agreed this "We are providing a guarantee to the World Bank to enable them to provide an additional $1 billion of climate finance to India." so WHO paid for it buddy???
My next & last car will be an ICE ! And I will do exactly what you have said Geoff & run it till it's wheels drop off !!
Iv'e had 3 vehicles in 20 years, current van is a 2005 and iv'e had almost 10 faultless years of driving it. And the 2 cars before that served me well with very low running and maintenance costs. And the purchase cost of those 3 vehicle less than £6.5k, that's just over £300 a year.
Same here!
They need to get em away from the ports. One battery fire and the entire region's logistics will be destroyed for months, maybe years.
Lithium batteries need to be charged every 3 months otherwise the battery degrades
Oh yes, that’s the problem. Can you imagine all these cars sitting around for years? They’re destined for the scrap heat.
It's so amusing that EVangelists believe petrol heads won't buy EVs due to ignorance, when the reality is that they don't buy EVs because they're intelligent. Nobody in their right mind would waste good money on what is essentially a boat anchor attached to a 30 mile tether connected to a home charger. Fine if you only ever drive to the other end of your street, but not so great if you want to use your EV as an actual car.
Oil is a renewable fuel where as wind and solar most definitely are not, Oil is the earths gift, forever
Spot on. It’s not a fossil fuel as well. Yet another myth foisted upon humanity.
"Abiotic" crude oil that renews, not so-called "fossil fuel" - but that's another whole giant rabbit hole in itself. . .
Upside-down world - black is white & white is black.
Apparently BYD stands for 'Burn Your Drive' which is why nobody sensible wants one.
Also 'Boom You're Dead' or 'Burns Your Dwelling'
I ordered a Seal back in Dec23. Been in the port from 1May to 9May. Pick it up next week 🤞😊
But I'm not sensible 🌝
That dockyard could potentially have an incredible bonfire in the future.
One thing that crossed my mind is that at least the idiots who are driving or trying to drive round in their EV are making a little more space for us at the fuel pumps etc.
We have been mis-sold these cars !...Simple !
I wasn't miss sold my electric car speak for yourself. My car fits my needs and saved me around 10k in the last 7 years, so I have a free car
@@xperyskop2475 Fine for you but not for everybody else ! & you may find now that your car is worthless ! If you have tonnes of money you've nothing to worry about !
@@xperyskop2475 Your EV is worthless and you havent saved the planet, so you've saved f*** all 🤣
@xperyskop Please do a real world calculation- if you sold it today for cash, what's the difference in buy-sell price? Add that to total running costs then divide by milage. That's your real world cost per mile.
My old vdub diesel costs me 9.2p per mile. And it's appreciating in value!
These Battery only cars will have major problems from day one when they are finally sold, as the battery will have run completely flat and then sat for months flat! When it is well known once left to go flat for any time the battery will not recover to full power. The other thing is will the company still honour the guarantee on the whole car? Will the insurance industry actually insure them?
good point
From a safety aspect doubtless the strategy WILL BE to not recharge any of those vehicles in recognition of the thermal runaway risk. Inevitably those batteries are not new and will have degraded; potentially greatly and to a much less safe condition so what we are seeing is a Beta test at play with consequences that may be significantly detrimental to the EV narrative especially if fast charger abuse subsequently accelerates the danger. Currently there is a lot of solar activity (six solar direct hit flares) and a lot of magnetospheric disruption that may lead to a Carrington Event and foreshorten this whole Electric Utopia; especially when the satellites are fried and there is no Telecoms, no GPS, no Internet and numerous fried power transformers. Modern vehicles engine management systems can also be fried and we could be back in the stone age in hours. The whole pack of cards is imminently going to fall down. Why merely Build Your Dream when you can enjoy a full colour surround-sound Nightmare?
In Southampton docks there are thousands of Teslas all parked up waiting to be ordered, imagine getting an EV that's been parked up for over a year what state are the batteries, lets not think about the corrosion.
The most environmentally friendly car is the one you already own.
I bet they are waiting for one to catch fire and burn the whole lot. Then claim insurance.
And the insurance companies will turn round and say 'not paying, because they aren't worth anything'.
I was watching this video whilst walking to the school pick up and have just tripped over an EV cable running across the public path into someone's Tesla 😅 there's some kind of message there😂
Where there’s blame!!😉😉😉
Sorry you were badly injured, I think you can get a free lawyer referral.
@@robertkubrick3738 Who was 'badly injured'?
@@geoffas Trip and fall over a criminally negligent extension cord? The entire public was injured.
@@robertkubrick3738 Nobody was badly injured.
Thanks for this guys lovin it😂😂😂😂
What a couple of great guys !
Taxpayers are footing the bill for said EVs, the shipping of said EVs and the storage of said EVs with said net zero taxes
And of course, those subsidies only go to those who are already well- off. Companies do not give a company car or car allowance to the lowest paid or most junior workers in my experience and cannot afford large monthly outgoings on buyer schemes.
about unsold EV's. Rimac Nivera, the worls fastest ev, has 100 unsold cars.. they have produced 150,and sold 50 of them. The president of Rimac said in an interview that "Ev's are not magic anymore" (or something.. translating from a swedish site) usually these cars sell out, but .. well.. he also said something about apple watch vs a nice analog watch. The apple watch can do everything, but no one is paying $200k for one, like they do for a analog clock.
I do hope Rimac succeeds. He seems like a really cool guy and come from nothing.
There will also one less after Hammond crashed it. Almost lost his life.
Well at least he's building a naturally aspirated one meter long V16 for the new Bugatti. Doesn't get more analog than that.
Toyota have just announced they have two million ICE vehicles unsold worldwide. Car Insurance rates in the UK are up by average if 34%. Its a factor
How many cars per dealership? It might not be a particularly surprising number if you dig down into it
I will be taking one off Toyota's hands when I return to the USA. It must not be too bad as dealers in the USA are still asking a premium for any Toyota car, but the defective Tacoma trucks can be had at MSRP.
They've run out of zealots ..........
I only see petrol/diesel zealots giving cash away at fuelling stations. I bought an electric car because it was much much cheaper to run it for my daily commute .
If you like your mechanics and your petrol station attendant and oil companies keep driving petrol/diesel
@@xperyskop2475 I will, for longer ranges and many more years than your Battery car.
@@xperyskop2475 I buy cars and gift them to poorer relations. I have single handed reduced the potential market for Battery cars by at least a dozen.
@@xperyskop2475 Horses for courses. Flat dwellers beware!
When there's too many Ifs then they can IF OFF, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
This is a VHS betamax moment, they should have went with hydrogen at the very start.
They tried hydrogen, it failed miserably!😢
More like a video tape moment 😅
@@DwaynePipes Yeah because they committed to EVs and looks like that's failing too.
£150 is scrap value
They could send the ev's to Ukraine as their next arms shipment! lol
LEAVING THEM UNUSED WILL WRECK THE BATTERY FAST STARTING PUFFING UP FAST
Electric cars are better at some jobs! It was called milk floats... Short distance Early morning Slow stop and start .... But for some reason they stopped using them about 20yrs ago
I had one, no heater, windows frosted up and on an icy road you were lucky to finish your day!
EV people seem to never learn . They go through life with their heads in clouds. la,la,la
Burnaston built Toyota Corolla /Auris that run over 20 years and 500.000 miles without significant issues. Thas good for the environment. You need multiple EVs to go the same
Try a road trip to Spa in Belgium for the F1 Grand Prix.
My wife shared the driving with me from Edinburgh to Spa, all on one tank of diesel. Under 14 hours.
A middle class EV would have taken over 20 hours, and we would have missed the Friday night party !
Tesla model 3 lr.
14h27m including charging.
Should've bought a Tesla!
😂😂😂
@@DwaynePipes @DwaynePipes lol, model 3 is no good for me
@@chefineer model Y 1 hour longer?
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@@DwaynePipes model y is as bad as a 3 !
The only people I know that have bought an EV, have done so because they earn a lot of money and they get a tax break from it.
And the cells in those batteries have a 'use by' date. It's a few years, but been sitting in a port for a year or more, it's already second hand when new...........
Who'd have thought that people who aren't getting pay risers despite high inflation and companies recording record profits don't buy really expensive cars
I just put a deposit down on a reliable, dependable, fuel sipping, long lasting ice Toyota Corolla. Based on my yearly mileage, it will take approximately 40 years to accumulate the same amount of miles that my current ice car has on it now. This is tremendously good for the environment as the manufacturer will not have to make several new cars to replace the one I'll be driving well into the future. You've got to look at the tremendously green effect of ice cars not being disposable like EVs.
Its not just EVs. Look up unsold new cars stored on airfields. 1000s and 1000s
A large field of stored EVs in close proximity to the sea air. Did anyone bring the hot dogs and marshmallows?
I've noticed increasing adverts by Vauxhall stating you can go electric for same monthly payment as equivalent petrol or diesel model.......
Desperation creeping in ?
Good man Jeff keep it going I’m looking forward to your road trip down to Spain Gerry from Ireland
Im guessing at that shipping port, A diesel Range Rover will park outside the pound, then 2 days later the diesel will self ignite and take out the thousands of EVs ending in a little insurance claim 🤔
Keep it going Geoff you’re doing a quality job of realism .
they need to start making W123 mercs diesels again, they lasts forever if taken care of :P
Had a 123,brilliant car...
Had a 124, evolutionary superior to an already brilliant car...now got a 1971 Crown and a 1990 e34,both great,but not a patch on the W123 & 4.
Both benzes rusted out in just the wrong places,within a few inches of subframes and chassis points...salty roads man.
They’re a million mile motor if looked after well. I’ve had several 190s and 124s. In 2005 I bought a ten year old 124 estate with 100k on clock for £2,500 . Kept it for ten years and did another 160k with it. Then sold it for £500. Cheap motoring for ten years.
They go on forever.
Ask a housemate whos just spent 2k on camshafts and lifters. Only done 80k fsh 😂 the 2.1 diesel.
@@brutter602 the old ones maybe. The newer ones are shite.
To be fair, Merc still make better diesels than most. The OM642 used in most modern Mercs on the road is capable of a few hundred k miles. The oil cooler seals will fail every 100-150k and the bluetec sensors will let you down at some point, but they are generally pretty solid. Fuel economy is also almost magical for a 3 litre engine, even when used in heavy cars like the S class. I did South-London to Blackpool in an S350bluetec (297 miles) and the car was saying it had 900 miles left in the tank
I had to fill up my ICE car today, only 3 weeks since I last filled up, and it took nearly five minutes! I wish I had an EV I could charge every day at an hour a time.
Good on you guys welldone vrooom vrooom vrooom!❤
10 years ago i bought a Lexus 400h Hybrid from a dealer in Belfast who dealt purely in Lexus and mercedes.....we flew over collected it.....a fantastic buy, the engine was like new. I did replace the cam belt and radiator at 1000k ..since then its been an absolute dream..I would never consider buying an EV ..never..I hoping to hang onto `Lexxy` for another 10 years..PS. Belfast was a great city and the people there were fantastic.and a trip to Titanic exhibition too.. great experience all round..
Very well spoken Geoff. I can’t wait to have a Volvo when I get a second car!
According to the 'honesty with integrity' Guardian: 'Electric and hybrid car sales to rise to new global record in 2024'
Lefty Wankers..all of them...😳😳🙄🙄😏😏🇬🇧
Might just happen, but 2025> is a cause for concern . . .
I think it was Mark Mills who said going from ICE to an EV is not like going from Horse and Cart to the Car, it’s like changing the horse’s food.
A brilliant video just fallen across Geoff like you my car is 2004 ROVER 75 CONNOISSEUR SE CDTI and has 186000 miles on the clock and will see off most Evs with performance so good look on the Benidorm Trip with Lee Cheers Keith x
Imagine buying a Chinese EV that has been sitting at a seaside port when more than half of Chinese EV manufacturers have gone bankrupt over the last five years and more than half of the remaining ones are expected to go bankrupt over the next few years as well. Many of those cars will get scrapped new.
You got to stop the cars coming off the ships. Send the back!
Burning fuel to make electricity wastes 40% of the fuel to get the electricity to the charger. Charging the car wastes 40-60% converting it from AC to DC. Wireless wastes another 40%. Then the batteries waste another 20% keeping the batteries warm or cool. We are WAY better off burning the fuel to move the car at 25% efficiency.
16:06 hey Geoff..I did that last year in a V70 D3.. North of the Netherlands to Spain and back. 2 tanks of diesel.
Come and visit, here, while Lee charges his car😉😁
Evil man!
Love it.
All that salty air slowly killing the cars too.
What a really nice bloke Rick is. Really enjoyed this chat between the both of you.👍🙂
And I’ll be popping over to have a look at your channel, Rick.
Most electric car show the car zooming through some amazing secluded mountain pass or prairie. And I’m looking at the advert thinking, where the hell are the charging points in the nearest hundred miles? You’re gonna be stranded mate!
I think I'll keep my diesel transit custom and my 1986 Harley Davidson
I wonder if there will be an almighty fire?
Also being sat on a harbour for months/years on end the corrosion factor on unprotected parts will also be effected and spread making the EV a bit crusty in a few years or months time.
With a bit of luck the EV just might reverse off the harbour wall into the ocean.
Rick, small world, I remember you giving me lifts home from Ignite back in the day. Great to see you doing valuable work 💪
Like the piles of ppe?
Parasitic draw will have an interesting effect, when they sit in a discharged state long enough the point where the first dead cell reverse polarization completely kills the battery draws closer every day. Lithium cells never recover from even a minute of reverse polarity... (BTW, it happens when one cell block reaches zero volts, the remaining series cell blocks push the constant parasitic current backwards through the dead cell block). The BMS cannot prevent this from happening and often exaggerates the problem by blocking recharge due to pack imbalance. It remains the biggest killer of laptop batteries today.
Great video guys
That guy is an amazing presenter
What's happening to the batteries in those EV?
My neighbor is old couple, the man bought a all suited up KIA estate EV for investment. He paid £55k for it brand new and he somehow was so convinced that he could flip it for profit. The stupid thing is they already have two big estate cars parked in the drive, why buy the 3rd car and EV for a fucking investment. I didn't say a word. That was two years ago, that fucking EV still park on the drive now and he won't back down for a big loss and the dealer won't take it back. People bought into EV, what can I say.
Dealerships are pre-registering just enough cars to avoid green penalties . The unsold units at the ports will be returned to the manufacturer.
Chinese manufacturers can afford to take this mahoosive hit because the PRC govt is propping them up.
Maybe but for how long?
I'm struggling to find a extension lead long enough to charge my EV from my 18th floor flat
Brilliant interview, nice one chaps............
Fab show love it ❤
...If.... and it's a big IF the storage companies actually get paid...............
A sale isn't a sale 'till the cash is in the bank. It's not just car manufacturers looking at big losses.
Not only have they been sat out in all weathers, they have been subjected to salty sea water...so they are going to be rusty, too. 😳
Not that it will be noticeable at first, but after another year or two . . .
Very good 👍 👏
I love my 4 year old EV.and would never trade it in.
BUT, I consider myself to be an ideal consumer.
Driving the way I do, its the PETROL car that was troublesome, as i rerely went snywhere long enough to warm it up.
I am retired.
I only drive around 2500 miles a yesr.
I only drive locally, never more than around 12 mile round trips.
PLUS Ihave no faith in the modern engine with wet belts, sensors etc.
My last one was a total money pit in that regard.
I paid 20k for my 2 year old ev.
Ive been on longer trips and yes, its a total horror story, but for how often i do it i can live with it. I charge my car once every 3 weeks, on a home charger overnight.
My biggest concern is battery failure, but i still have 2 years of warranty left and its all planned if the battery fails later on.
Yes, you guessed it.
I Cannot promise you I would get a volvo, but it will be certainly older than 25 years.
My ev is probably worth nowt, i dont csre.
It would be scrap value and onto an old petrol.
I only have around 20 years more driving anyway, and this country will have us all out of them by then anyway.
I do feel for the majority of people in society though, who need tens of miles from them each dsy.
For that they are not fit, and if you already have a ice car I would stick with it.
I only went electric in the first place because my petrol car became scrap.
You're the ideal customer, but in a very small minority . . .
Geoff, ‘kin brilliant😂
You have 1 more subscriber thanks to you and Lee working together and your really interesting channel.
Check out how many fires there have been in UK battery recycling plants recently. It’s shocking!
I might have one if they are giving them away, make a good garden planter.
“Where they gonna go” some bright ‘Spark’ could solve the problem 🤫
Great interview!!!