WHIPPLE LIED!! Supercharged 2024 Mustang GT SHOCKING DYNO RESULTS..
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- 2024 Mustang GT with Whipple Stage 1 Kit & Whipple Stage 2 Kit dyno results!
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To keep warranty and increase your rwhp to 630 rwhp; Whats not to like?
The S650 GT stock dyno = 410-420 and the Dark Horse is 430-446 on the dyno. THE blue Mustang 1:1 dyno performance was actually 656 rwhp. Add in headers (+30) & Borla or AWE or MBRP & you get 10-13 more rwhp. Yank out the carbon filters & add Lethal Performance air filters (not K&N) and you get 12-24 dyno results rwhp. So Stage I (keeping your warranty) you get 656 + 30 + 10 (H-pipe or catback) + 12-24 throw in some Boostang at each fill-up for a 93 octane and you have 716 rwhp Stage I with warranty!!!!!!! Go for it!!!!!
Best deal ever!!!!
Get real!!! Stop the BS negativity!!!
The best driving daily Mustang ever with 716 horsepower to the wheels before tuning!!!! Incredible‼️‼️‼️😎
Headers void warranty so your point is invalid. The H-Pipe / X-Pie doesn't.
You sound like these vendors saying any and everything to make sales😂. It's a new gen mustang, of course it will be compared to the previous generations and on that point it's a disappointment. Be real, anyone with decent knowledge on the coyote platform should've been skeptical and cautious with how much vendors videos were pushing the octane booster/e30 numbers......it's still a 12:1 compression coyote, 800+whp on 93/booster or e30 is not a safe and reliable path for the long run
Man the fact you CAN retain warranty while running boost is wild honestly. Lots of peeps in other car scenes would love to have the ability to retain warranty 😂 shit any boosted cars from factory will deny you for a down pipe or something minor.
Yea I agree and 640whp with weight out and a 10R faster than the Shelby GT500 too
So the million dollar question is , how much more does the stage 2 kit cost than the stage 1 ? Because 640 WHEEL Horsepower with a WARRANTY on a Bone stock car with 93 octane on a conservative tune is STILL F’n impressive . But I get it some ppl are just chasing numbers and got endless 💰 🤷🏽♂️
Btw this is for a car that costs less than 50k. So you own a Beautiful 2024 car with under warranty making 640 whp for less than 60k . Sounds like a winner to me . But that does suck that they lied though 🤦🏾♂️
Under $500 difference believe it or not
The warranty is pretty sketchy
Gotta start watching Alex Flores he said this weeks ago
@@xavierwebster7622 🗣🗣🗣
man i know im not gonna be able to even think. of getting a musting for a few years but man hopefully there are some good used 24s when im ready cause you make it hard to choose anything else another banger as usual
Appreciate that man! 🤝
You were cruising right in front of my job😂 (Planet Ford)
I like the cam facing you in the car, not sure if its new, but I like it.
I’ve used it before! Felt right to do it this vid!
Facts it’s a good idea
@@EarsPOV Will you be able to tune or do anything for power with the 2.3L s650 ??
Love the videos man 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! 🙏
Ok so for everyone freaking out here’s the math…
480CHP plus 12psi is 868CHP, 15-18% Drivetrain loss is 710-730whp (they dyno’d 755whp with the stage 2, which for a dynojet that’s about right)… PER whipple they said the difference between the stage 1 and 2 is the throttle body and the tune is more aggressive… HOW aggressive? About 60hp worth of timing, RPM, and 20MM of throttle body… BOTH kits run the same blower pulley, it’s all in the tube and the throttle body…
Factor in the mods the tests cars had and it makes sense
So now take 810 and hack 15-18% off you get 630-650whp on a dynojet… nothing sounds off with the math…
How do you know the difference in tunes? Drivetrain loss isn’t that much with the 10R80 either. If people can view the files I bet they can make alterations and crack the device and upload it to the ECU. Why hasn’t that happened yet?
Keep em coming 💪🏾🔥
Will do!!
Love the content watching you made me wants to by a 350 but I’m also looking at zo6s 👀
Both great
literally watching yesterdays vid on my computer and got the notification for this vid on my phone lmao
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Love the vids man, and btw what gen GoPro do you use for your POV’s?
I use GoPro Hero 10
I also work at a mustang shop. Gen 5 3.0 whipple cars make 625-670 through stick shift. Theres always other factors like weather, how old the fuel is etc. automatic cars always make less horsepower. 15-20% drivetrain loss on a 810 rated kit should make 648 wheel. The numbers dead on, like i said everyone sees the power number the kit says and thinks it’s gonna make somewhere near that. To make 700 on a whipple car you better put a smaller pulley on it. Also if you’re making 650 at the tire and add 15-20% back into your math it comes out to over 800 wheel so 93 octane is plenty.
I was gonna ask you about this $6k option great vid
You were at 1960 and 45! I'm from here too.
Hey man, there is a company called Lund who’re THE coyote gurus in the tuning world. There’s a guy named Alex who has a channel discussing the do’s & donts when it comes to these coyote platforms. He’s been discussing this since the release of the 2024 & the new whipple power claims. Very interesting and informative for to those who are willing to listen. Very cool car nonetheless!
can you link his channel for myself and the others interested? Appreciated if ya do
Please share the video
Im surprised at the lack of torque as i'd think that it would be 40 to 80 higher with that much boost. Would still be a super fun car to drive. I also wish the manual cars were a tremec.
I think it’s funny when people get surprised what the blowers make. The math works with drivetrain loss. Auto is always gonna make less horsepower. I’ve never ever seen a whipple car make over 700whp. They always make 625-670. Stage 2 kits always make more than the stage 1.
Before you supercharge your mustang get the components around it. Etc.... exhaust, headers, fuel injectors, H pipes, engine work. Anything you can before you supercharge it. Which is going to bring up the power and torque a lot more.
I actually like the Gen 4 but, tuning isn't unlocked and who knows when that will be. So because of that I'm going to purchase a pre owned Gen 4 5.0 endless power. Enough said!
Wassup Ears W Vid . How much are the payments on your GT ? Im looking for a new daily like you
That’s all gonna depend on credit, credit history length, location & down payment. Too many variables.
That depends on you credit fam, if you’re not at 780 or around that; you’ll get lower rates. Too many variables to even use somebody else’s payment as a guide
I did mine over 84 months (long time I know but wanted a lower payment). This was before price hike. I carried over 6k from previous vehicle. My payment is $837 for a 56k car. Just at least giving you an idea. Oh and it’s a 22 that I got in 23
what hat clip do you use and what is you pov set up?
The GoPro Hat Clip!
what is the difference between stage 1 and stage 2??? Because it seems like it's just the pulley's??? ((Like is there a difference between the Whipple Blower's themselves???))
Throttle body and the tune is more aggressive.
What were the dyno numbers NA on the blue car? Depending on the dyno there can be a huge swing! Everything that I have seen so far leads me to believe that the marketed numbers from whipped are achievable. As long as you have enough fuel it can get to 800 crank.
420whp
Sounds about right…630-650hp at the wheel is the same numbers the stock 20gt500 was making. 630>400…it’s a big jump.
Did you have to have the Ford dealership install to keep the warranty?
Ford or certified shop
A stock GT with cats and a Whipple stage 1 kit usually hit's around 680 to the wheels 700ish.. Thats still a huge increase on 93 with the cats and stock exhaust..
Something too is superchargers like whipple also give more torque. Most of the time tunes for ess gives like 480 MAYBE 500. I only have headers cat back and tune and I make 430 torque. So gaining ~50 torque after supercharger seems meh
I'm not a tuner nor own a dyno but why didn't they use 4th gear if its 1:1 vs 6th gear which is 0.622:1????
You’ll hit the speed limiter.
Ok so much to unpack hear. Newer cars especially mustangs have wide bands from factory as well as adaptive timing and cam adjustment. Not all gas is created equal as the tests done on 93 show shell and some sunoco are better just like better e85 stations. That being said the more you run the car ragardless of its tuned will adapte to gas changes by its self. Also dynoing in diffrent gears can effect the rwhp numbers by 20-30 rwhp on average. The last thing is gale banks has prooved if you cant run the correct amount of air threw the front of the car via proper fan or air pusher it will run hotter and the factory intakes arent being correctly fed airflow regardles of na or boosted. And we all know iat's before blower affect hp. That being said not all cars dyno the same nor dynos dyno the same. A factory car can dyno 10 rwhp diffrent from the exact same model so with dustin whipple corectong and advanceing the tune probbly monthly the more theses kits are out there. The more they will make via whipple and adaptive car learning.
I can agree the tunes for the Whipple Kits Stage 1 & 2 will probably be slightly different 6 months from now as more people get their hands on them and not just shops with cars that are already modified.
is that a stock exhaust im hearing? she's definitely louder and sounds deeper
H-Pipe only
Check out Murphy's Law Garage... same, BUT, once they drove it more, the computer started learning. Still short of claimed though..... Oh, and now I see you plug their garage... LOL!!
The car does not have adaptive learning
Thanks for the shout.
The speed limiter ....... it limits the speed . They are getting folks hyped , spending their money, and then limiting them . 😂😅
Whipple advertises 810 crank hp for the stage 1. 18-20 percent driveloss on an auto puts it around that 640-650 whp range. So Im confused about the issue ??
The loss is not that severe on the 10R80
@@EarsPOV beefcakeracing just put out a good video explaining the whipple dyno numbers with the gear ratios. The drvietrain loss can be higher if it's not in 1:1 7th gear, which no one does because of the speed limiter on the dyno.
I spoke with someone at Whipple and the 810hp+ figure is DARK HORSE ONLY numbers. It's obfuscated by Ford Performance for marketing purposes. The GT will make less (on the stage 1 setup). The motors are close, but not completely identical as is misreported in the plethora of reviews out there.
@ydbt4life has been saying this for a while the 2024 Mustang hasn’t done or accomplished anything that the previous generation hasn’t already done I would be looking at lethal palm beach dyno and whipple kinda skeptical rn
Should I whipple my Maserati Granturismo
I’d leave it stock and cruise 😎
If the stage one calibration didn’t have a 150mph speed limiter on it and they were able to dyno in 7th gear it may have been a little bit higher
If you dyno a 10r80 in 7th you will damage the clutches.
Yup that’s why Whipple said not to do it
Mine made 812 HP then quick back up 805 to the wheels
That’s good power
Should’ve bought the stage 2 then if you wanted more. You have the warranty. Numbers depend on the Dyno and atmospheric condition. Air density is a huge factor.
Stage 2 does not have a warranty. Only Stage 1.
@@EarsPOV exactly, you’re crying about power when you could have bought more 💀
Did you say its cheaper to mod the 2024 than the gt500 power wise ?? Not true
You can buy and boost the 24 and have it make more power and still be cheaper than a 2020+ Shelby GT500 currently.
@@EarsPOV
Sir you can buy a 2020 gt500 today for 68k just a pulley and a tune and make 750+ hp so don't understand exactly what you mean
@@kme5925 Ears is correct. you can get a base gt for 45kish (or less), another 10k for a stage 2 whipple kit. throw in 2k for catback system. 750whp for less than 60k.
Did ya guys see the Blue S650 recap video💁🏻♂️ Where he Re did dyno pulls with stock wheels. The real dyno is the track with MPH wich he did and went killa MPH + Real RWP
Yea I did. This was posted long before that was dropped tho!
Yep
630-650 whp on 93 seems more correct for a kit that retains warranty. imo whipple would be stupid to offer a kit over 700+whp on 93. accident waiting to happen. ima be honest this whole ordeal makes me want to steer clear from whipple on my swap
The Gen 5 Stage 2 kit would be great for your car.
@@EarsPOV really want a tvs but you can’t get 2.3’s new anymore. Might be forced to buy a whipple
You guys don’t get it…E30 in testing is 90% plus of the gains as E85
We never needed huge fuel systems and injectors for 9 second cars.
No reputable tuner will tune your car for E30 on stock pump and injectors. That's why they use Boostane for the 700+whp numbers on 93.
@@EarsPOV because it would make them have to actually do the work… that’s all. They want to run a generic file. lol reputable though.
@@EarsPOV and across most other major platforms “reputable” tuners do E30 tunes
Camaros, BMWs, dodge boys.. on and on.
Just lazy Lund and their copycats don’t want to put in the work.
@@commycomentor9695 99.99% of the customer base cannot mix e30 correctly. They are going to go to 1/3rd of a tank and fill with e85 and think that is e30. Lund doesn't want to deal with the room temp IQ 2015+ coyote guys (respectfully as a s550 owner) trying to mix e/93
We’re talking about Mustangs. Why are you bringing up platforms that have completely different OEM fuel systems?
That's a 10speed it'sb puts down power better
They really screwed the pooch with that cluster and dash. Just awful. Prime reason Im not getting one despite the cost even supercharged.
MOUTHPOV
I always call out these liars but there fan boys streamerlovers, some weirdo be protecting them and bashing me. Sometimes, i just say let me guess pump gass.... they start attacking me 😂😅😂
Going to be honest. Dyno numbers are extremely subjective lol. You literally can dyno 3 cars and then go to a different dyno and it's different. As far as 800 HP, people are crazy to think you can't run 800 plus on 93 🤣🤣. These companies been making engines for years so they wouldn't warranty something if they knew it would break. The 5.0 engine is strong and engine components are different in the gen 4. So it can do 800 on 93. The E30 is literally the regular ford factory tune that whipple took into account. The E30 tune is a safe guard due to pumps not having the consistency for E10 in 93. So E30 is a safe guard. To truly tell if you have 800 HP will be doing time slips or 60-130 pulls. Until then I'm not worried.
There’s not one 800+WHP SBE 5.0 on the road rn. I can guarantee you that bc nobody will tune that about of boost on 93. There is no E30 tune. They are just running it bc that’s what you can do before pressure drops on stock pump w/ supplied injectors. I agree the 1/4 & 60-130 will verify if tho.
You dumb as hell if you thinks 800whp on 93 is a good idea let alone warranty will be intact. Octane booster or E85 is needed for anything over ~680whp
Custom tuning fixes this issue
Not available rn
@@EarsPOV I am aware of that
@@EarsPOV your going to see that difference in rwhp with a custom tune. 100%
you may want to edit this video a bit instead of spreading misinformation. Please reference Murphys newest video for an explanation.
This was uploaded days before his new video
@EarsPOV so is your opinion changed in light of the new data?
FYI don't supercharge it. There is a few turbo kits that will provide better quality results. Lethal performance has their turbo kit. Same with palm beach dyno.
Some of us want the warrenty!
Yeah let's cold start your car every video typical car guy....... we already know what it sounds like
You the only one crying
@EarsPOV not crying, just annoyed. You're the leader of the dork squad. Not to mention you were probably raised by wolves.
@@ROYZARMYlmao thirsty for attention i’ve seen you hating on multiple videos
My dude if you don't appreciate a cold start of any car are you even a enthusiast.
stop hating, i like the cold start personally