you have to realise that the NBA had really strict rules on illegal dribble back then. 90% of today's crossovers would be a carry or palm or whatever you want to call it. they dribble oddly because they had to
All the people criticizing these guys.. they were underpaid.. their equipment was shoddy.. a lot of them had to get part time jobs in the offseason to pay the bills.. their nutrition/training wasn't as good. The facilities were bad compared to today. Heck even the rims.. they weren't breakaway so if you didn't get all net the ball was going to go bouncing who knows where. There was no standing around for 20 seconds while someone isolates.. no three point line so people could just clog the lane.. that meant little driving.. No slowly backing your man down while everyone stares at you with their thumbs up their asses. No travelling/palming the ball. In short yes the players today are better athletes.. faster, stronger, taller.. the only thing these players were probably equal to was in endurance, as they simply ran themselves ragged in those days.. but sure, under modern conditions a modern team would easily beat both these teams..under 1960s conditions? A lot closer.. but give these guys credit for what they were able to do at the time.. I mean a top high school decathlete today could probably have won every single event at the 1896 olympics.. so what? Cousy, Russell, West and Baylor could play in the NBA today. Cousy would average 7-8 assists per game.. I'm sure he could learn a decent jump shot; he didn't need one back then. Russell would be one of the top power forwards in the league.. 12rpg.. 2-3 blocks per game.. just as dominating a defensive presence as back then... West would average around 20ppg as a pure shooting guard. Baylor would be a jack of all trades type small forward.. .. a few others might be bench players.. it is what it is.
Cousy and West are badass. Both were way ahead of their time. Cousy is out there throwing no looks and behind the backs. West is just getting to his spots and draining buckets. Im only 30 but I love watching these old games. Gotta respect the history of this amazing sport.
after watching this game.. and other vintage clips of old nba games 40-50years ago.. i conclude that BILL RUSSEL or even WILT CHAMBERLAIN are just regular bench players if they play in todays NBA or in the 90s... no ball rotation,,whoever touches the ball first, shoots the ball first.. poor dribbling/ball handling.. no lateral movements,, poor shooting,, no quick release abilities..heights are bit smaller ( which is probably the reason why Big guys like russel and chamberlain dominated this era ) . rim height was lower compared to todays nba.. ,,, poor defense... players were not that athletic and explosives..
Glad to see so many comments defending these players compared to today's players. Yes, obviously, if you took these players exactly as they are with the exact skill sets they possessed at the time and dropped them onto an NBA floor today, they'd be lost. But everything must be taken in the context of its era. Apply their physical, mental, and emotional makeup to the current era and most of these players would today be NBA players, they'd have developed athleticism and skills relevant to today's game. Guys like Russell, Cousy, West, and Baylor would be dominant players. If you took a current NBA player just as he is today and suddenly dropped him onto this floor at this time, HE'D be lost. Every time he dribbled he'd turn the ball over for carrying. Every move to the hoop would result in a turnover for traveling. On defense, he'd foul out in the first quarter.
1962 was the greatest year in NBA history: Wilt's 100 point game and 50.4 ppg average, Oscar's triple-double season average, Russell's MVP award, Elgin scoring 61 pts in the Finals against the Celtics
Russell played incredible in deciding games. This series went to OT in Game 7. Russ played all 53 minutes and for a poor career FT shooter he shot 14-17 from the line.
You know, I'm really starting to think that the 60's was an underrated era in NBA history. They actually played good basketball back in that time. The games were up and down and they would put up well over 100 points without a 3 point shot.
you have to realise that the NBA had really strict rules on illegal dribble back then. 90% of today's crossovers would be a carry or palm or whatever you want to call it. they dribble oddly because they had to
i wanna know who the first person to do a crossover was, and if he was burned alive for being a sorcerer.
All the people criticizing these guys.. they were underpaid.. their equipment was shoddy.. a lot of them had to get part time jobs in the offseason to pay the bills.. their nutrition/training wasn't as good. The facilities were bad compared to today. Heck even the rims.. they weren't breakaway so if you didn't get all net the ball was going to go bouncing who knows where. There was no standing around for 20 seconds while someone isolates.. no three point line so people could just clog the lane.. that meant little driving.. No slowly backing your man down while everyone stares at you with their thumbs up their asses. No travelling/palming the ball. In short yes the players today are better athletes.. faster, stronger, taller.. the only thing these players were probably equal to was in endurance, as they simply ran themselves ragged in those days.. but sure, under modern conditions a modern team would easily beat both these teams..under 1960s conditions? A lot closer.. but give these guys credit for what they were able to do at the time.. I mean a top high school decathlete today could probably have won every single event at the 1896 olympics.. so what? Cousy, Russell, West and Baylor could play in the NBA today. Cousy would average 7-8 assists per game.. I'm sure he could learn a decent jump shot; he didn't need one back then. Russell would be one of the top power forwards in the league.. 12rpg.. 2-3 blocks per game.. just as dominating a defensive presence as back then... West would average around 20ppg as a pure shooting guard. Baylor would be a jack of all trades type small forward.. .. a few others might be bench players.. it is what it is.
Crazy how fast paced this was. These guys were basically running for 48 minutes straight
Just incredible how Jerry West was way ahead of his time. He could be a superstar today with no doubt.
Cousy and West are badass. Both were way ahead of their time. Cousy is out there throwing no looks and behind the backs. West is just getting to his spots and draining buckets. Im only 30 but I love watching these old games. Gotta respect the history of this amazing sport.
Hearing crowds boo the officials 60 years ago makes me so happy
Im suprised at how good the spaced the floor then & they took more jumpshots than you’d think
after watching this game.. and other vintage clips of old nba games 40-50years ago.. i conclude that BILL RUSSEL or even WILT CHAMBERLAIN are just regular bench players if they play in todays NBA or in the 90s... no ball rotation,,whoever touches the ball first, shoots the ball first.. poor dribbling/ball handling.. no lateral movements,, poor shooting,, no quick release abilities..heights are bit smaller ( which is probably the reason why Big guys like russel and chamberlain dominated this era ) . rim height was lower compared to todays nba.. ,,, poor defense... players were not that athletic and explosives..
These guys were big, athletic and dedicated. Give them a little time to adapt to today's game and they'd be just fine
These guys have started everything. Respect
Glad to see so many comments defending these players compared to today's players. Yes, obviously, if you took these players exactly as they are with the exact skill sets they possessed at the time and dropped them onto an NBA floor today, they'd be lost. But everything must be taken in the context of its era. Apply their physical, mental, and emotional makeup to the current era and most of these players would today be NBA players, they'd have developed athleticism and skills relevant to today's game. Guys like Russell, Cousy, West, and Baylor would be dominant players. If you took a current NBA player just as he is today and suddenly dropped him onto this floor at this time, HE'D be lost. Every time he dribbled he'd turn the ball over for carrying. Every move to the hoop would result in a turnover for traveling. On defense, he'd foul out in the first quarter.
Bro, Jerry West was freaking amazing
1962 was the greatest year in NBA history: Wilt's 100 point game and 50.4 ppg average, Oscar's triple-double season average, Russell's MVP award, Elgin scoring 61 pts in the Finals against the Celtics
Russell played incredible in deciding games. This series went to OT in Game 7. Russ played all 53 minutes and for a poor career FT shooter he shot 14-17 from the line.
Cousy, Russell, west and Baylor were all time greats and you could tell in this video they go crazy!
You know, I'm really starting to think that the 60's was an underrated era in NBA history. They actually played good basketball back in that time. The games were up and down and they would put up well over 100 points without a 3 point shot.
Cousy was slick with that damn ball. And West's jumper was pure.
awesome.... no blaring music between plays... just the sounds of the crowd, as it should be.
that Cousy could really pass the ball