Towers for the Ncase M1 - Feat. the Thermalright Silver Soul 135, ID Cooling SE-904-XT, and U9S!

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  • čas přidán 13. 09. 2024

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  • @angrygoldfish
    @angrygoldfish Před 3 lety +8

    Thermalright have been at the top of their game for tower coolers for a long time, but they go way under the radar of most people-maybe because of distribution and advertising. I've had the Le Grand Macho RT in my build for the last few years, and it's phenomenal.

  • @nahrizulashraf
    @nahrizulashraf Před 3 lety +4

    First! I'm excited for ss135. Been waiting for any reviews for this one

  • @cortlong
    @cortlong Před 2 lety +1

    I started here for the nr200.
    Moved to the q58. You had sick videos for that.
    Now I’m headed to an NCASE and sure enough you have a killer video for that too. What a baller.

  • @julessavere461
    @julessavere461 Před 3 lety +7

    Hi, Very pleased to see the first rest on this SS135 cant wait to see how it perform vs c14s or dark rock tf2

  • @MachinesMore
    @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +7

    Couple of extra notes, just cross-posting for visibility.
    1) I thought the SE-904-XT was available on Amazon for $30, but I must have confused it with an alternate model. It's only available on AliExpress right now, but ID distributes their coolers on Amazon so I would hope to see it there soon. At any rate, this cooler is still on the budget end of the spectrum.
    2) As some have asked, YES, the rad panel works with the stock SS135 setup in the M1. It pushes against the cooler but the panel can still close and the screws have zero problems engaging.
    3) Pic in the community tab - I was able to get an NF-A12x25 to fit in the SS135 without modding it, I had to shift it down a bit and stretch the cooler clips. However, this is strictly in YMMV territory since this cooler is not offset and sits fairly high, so some tall mobo heatsinks won't work for this, plus the rad panel will NOT work.

    • @elijahperez9330
      @elijahperez9330 Před 3 lety

      If you had the time or interest to make a video on the C14s, Dark Rock TF 2, and Silver Soul 135.. it would be gold.

  • @vzangel
    @vzangel Před 2 lety +8

    I'm very interested in the comparison between the Silver Soul 135 and the C14S, as the latter is the cooler I'm using with my M1, but I'm wondering if there's a better air cooling option.

  • @chairs-dimension
    @chairs-dimension Před 3 lety +12

    How would tower coolers compare to the Noctua C14? Would be interested to also see some comparisons between the M1 and the Dan C4 when it comes out since they seem to be quite a similar category.

    • @BassRacerx
      @BassRacerx Před 3 lety +5

      the c14 is a much better cooler 10-12c cooler than the u9s in most tests. you would just need decent airflow in the chassis to make sure your case is exhausting the hot air as downdraft coolers dont help "push" the hot air out of the case. like a tower cooler does.

  • @ailluinthethyra6139
    @ailluinthethyra6139 Před 3 lety +9

    Finallly, some Thermalright content :) If you can wait Thermalright will probably release black, white and white + RGB version of that cooler if there is enough demand.
    Just missing 135mm single tower coolers like AK 120 mini, TS 120 mini or their newest TA 120 EX MINI.
    For the NH-U9S, since it has offset to clear ram slots maybe you can flip the heatsink to add 1 more fan. Push/Pull config + 92mm intake fan might be worth it?

    • @zefengc
      @zefengc Před 2 lety

      Indeed, Thermalright Silver Soul 135 now has its brother and sister, which are Black Soul 135 and Silver Soul 135 WHITE. Also there are tinier variants like Silver Soul 110 along with other color options. Thermalright does a really great job in the field of SFF coolers and chassis fans. It confuses me why they wouldn’t expand their business beyond the Greater China area.

  • @xenoliving3951
    @xenoliving3951 Před rokem

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! Living in japan, for some reason the scythe mugen is an eye watering 150US while the Thermalright AK 90 is a simple $30! I've spent all day researching, and I think I found my next cooler.

  • @ytQrash
    @ytQrash Před 3 lety +1

    Hurray, for some Ncase M1 lovin' !

  • @Turok2
    @Turok2 Před 2 lety +2

    Yeah I bought a silver arrow 130 last year. I was surprised how sharp it was and that it actually came with gloves so you don’t get cut.
    Now it’s just sitting in its box and I’ve since moved on to the C14S.

  • @MrDutch1e
    @MrDutch1e Před rokem +2

    Was thinking about grabbing the 135 for a nr200p build with a 7700x. Seems like the perfect cooler for that case as well. The common coolers that fit in the nr200p like the fuma 2 or mugen 5 really don't fit when you use AMD due to the extra height of the IHS. At least with tempered glass installed.

  • @PacManDog
    @PacManDog Před 2 lety +3

    Just ordered this. Currently have a C14s in my NCASE with a 3070ti FE. Do you think the Thermalright will be good enough to use with a TG panel for the Ncase? Have you done any testing with the C14s vs the Thermalright? Would love to use my TG window, but it seems unlikely with a C14s and a FE card.

  • @georgemichaelis1664
    @georgemichaelis1664 Před rokem

    lets go thanks for the test just bought my thermalright

  • @weirdodude1173
    @weirdodude1173 Před 3 lety

    It's interesting to see. I like that low profile dual tower design. Thumbs up.

  • @LegacyLoot
    @LegacyLoot Před 3 lety +1

    Surprised you didn't test the thermalright assassin king mini. Maybe a future video? It would be cool if you did a roundup with all your small coolers vs nh u12s for reference.

  • @ch33zpuff
    @ch33zpuff Před 3 lety +2

    Insta like for NCase M1 content! Like others have mentioned, does the fan bracket still fit on the side of the case with the thermal right installed? I believe it fit with the old silver arrow 130 and allowed for a nice rear intake, side exhaust airflow configs. Thanks for the detailed review!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +2

      Hey Brandon, yes, the rad panel does work. The side exhaust works well with towers in the case.

    • @ch33zpuff
      @ch33zpuff Před 3 lety

      @@MachinesMore thanks for confirming 🙏

  • @al_agator
    @al_agator Před 2 lety +1

    Have you tried out the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 (PA120)? It fits in the NR200 and beats out the Fuma 2. There's also the Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE that fits with the TG panel.

  • @RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki
    @RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki Před 3 lety +1

    Would you consider comparing the M1 with other popular mainstream sff cases like the NR200?
    I almost got the M1 before the NR200 launched so I'm still wondering if I made the right choice.

  • @anghanharsh
    @anghanharsh Před rokem +1

    5900x and this cooler any good?

  • @tomlee2215
    @tomlee2215 Před 3 lety +2

    Love your detailed review! How do you think this would compare to the ID cooling 224xt? I am about to build a nr200 so I don't have the clearance issue, would 224 be better? Thanks!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, if you have the clearance I'd go for a typical 120mm tower. The Thermalright does have 6 heatpipes but I'm not sure the value proposition is there if you don't have an M1 since you have clearance. As for the 224Xt, the stock fan on the 224xt isn't great, but you can swap it out later on, or just go for something like the Be Quite Pure Rock 2, Arctic Freezer 34, those are pretty good too and will be easier to get (depending on where you are) than the Thermalright.

    • @tomlee2215
      @tomlee2215 Před 3 lety

      @@MachinesMore Appreciate your reply! In that case, I will keep the 224. Thank you!

  • @ciaranplunkett1395
    @ciaranplunkett1395 Před rokem +1

    I bought a Thermalright Silver Soul 135 on your recommendation but it was BAD.
    Installation was easy but thermals (Ryzen 5 5600X) were terrible, and the fan kept ramping up constantly.
    And it wasn't quiet - there was a constant grinding sound above 750 rpm.
    Had to send it back.

    • @Mace1094
      @Mace1094 Před 8 dny

      What cooler did you end up changing to? I’m shopping for one for my M1 now

  • @LastSecBloomer
    @LastSecBloomer Před 3 lety

    Now get the friend of the channel to send you the Thermalright Frost Commander 140 :)

  • @dunuhn
    @dunuhn Před 2 lety

    Thanks for making a video on this! Are the grey heatpipe covers on top removeable? Wouldn't mind painting those to match a build :)

  • @oOMeowthOoPlushie
    @oOMeowthOoPlushie Před 2 lety

    I looked back and forth between the Silver Soul 135, and Peerless Assassin 120. Couldn't really understand why the Silver Soul has less metal, and one less fan but it is more expensive than the Peerless Assassin. I looked deeper and closer online, some people show those Peerless Assassin 120 through unboxing video, and then I noticed the the PA 120 SE, the end point of the heatpipes showing through the fins, it is not well done, it is in uneven dome shape, you will notice it when you look very close. And for the PA 120 Normal version, it has a top hat to cover the heatpipes end, but it screams "THERMALRIGHT" right in your face.
    In the end, I bought the Silver Soul 135 (White version), it has a clean top hat that cover all those heatpipes domes nicely and doesn't have brand name on it, so I wouldn't have a problem in the future that I want to put a Noctua white fan for it, as it is a brandless white metal heatsink.

  • @marksulloway5669
    @marksulloway5669 Před 3 lety +2

    The even shorter dual tower Noctua D9L never seems to be compared to the U9S. Alpenfoehn has a new cheap (at least in Europe) 92mm tower cooler the Dolomit with at least one good review and compared well against the U9S. Might just work in the Sliger S610 with 128mm cooler height space.

    • @Peterowsky
      @Peterowsky Před 2 lety

      That lack of comparison between the D9L and the U9S always struck me as weird, especially since the D9L is almost always cheaper, with the same noise spec and significantly less height.

    • @whiteofsoul
      @whiteofsoul Před rokem

      They recently had a higher performing Atlas cooler available. Best 92mm two-piece tower cooler. Now they have discontinued it :(

  • @paulking4908
    @paulking4908 Před 2 lety

    Thermalright silver soul is now available in a 110 mm variant.

  • @YiHogyun
    @YiHogyun Před 3 lety +1

    could you off the record test the SilverSoul vs Noctua C14S with fans facing away from mobo (exhaust)?

  • @tegkgiof
    @tegkgiof Před 3 lety +1

    Please do tests dark rock tf in nr200

  • @OmairArif
    @OmairArif Před 3 lety +1

    Does the radiator mounting plate fit with the Thermalright cooler installed? Would be nice to have an exhaust or intake installed towards the front of the case.

  • @densyoh
    @densyoh Před měsícem

    at what power levels? probably i missed out but i dont see power level numbers on your charts

  • @Deng1ong
    @Deng1ong Před 2 lety

    Any chance there will be a full review for the thermalright cooler?

  • @btmedic04
    @btmedic04 Před 3 lety +2

    Im interested to see how the thermalright silver soul 135 performs compared to a coolermaster hyper 212 evo v2. I currently have the 212 evo v2 in my nr200p cooling my 5600x, but its just a touch too tall in my opinion to use the glass side panel

    • @francis.b
      @francis.b Před 2 lety +1

      For the 212 evo you can remove the pipe caps and it'll clear the TG panel. As far as cooling the thermal right would cool way better than 212evo. Single tower with 4 pipes vs dual tower with 6 pipes.

  • @MelvinDlaCruz
    @MelvinDlaCruz Před rokem

    Can you compare with the peerless assassin 120

  • @yanniskouretas8688
    @yanniskouretas8688 Před 3 lety +1

    Now this is quality testing ... I have the Streacom DA2 which has similar restrictions with the M1 and apart from the venerable NH-C14S I haven't seen to this date a more capable air cooler for my 3900x .... until now and this new Thermalright .... It looks really close to performance ...

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah, it's a really interesting cooler. I'll compare directly against the C14S soon. The C14S has a limited implementation in the M1 so that's the biggest impediment to it working well.

    • @yanniskouretas8688
      @yanniskouretas8688 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MachinesMore in DA2 you can configure the C14S in push - pull with excellent results (encroaching in aio territory) . It's a tight fit but do-able.

    • @0mnikron702
      @0mnikron702 Před 2 lety

      I have the same case just pulled it out of storage to re use it, I was using a hyte revolt 3 DA2 is such a sext case, I had a dark rock TF2 with 5900x and compared to this silver 130 the cooling is about on par with it I can now use my temper glass for the case, and show off the insides Im very happy with this cooler.
      system spec
      R9 5900x
      RTX 3080Ti FE
      32gb of 3600 cl16 ballistix RGB
      psu corsair sfx 750 plantinum
      WD black sn750 1 TB and intel 660p 2 TB

  • @obfuscurity
    @obfuscurity Před 3 lety +2

    How do you think the Thermalright would perform for a 5900x?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +1

      I think it would do quite well, considering the OC'd 10700K draws more power than the 5900X at stock. Now if you were to OC the 5900X that's a different story but at 142W or so, I'd expect similar fan speeds required at full load, so considering it did OK for the noise optimized level I'd expect around the 1700 rpm mark, about 7dBA above typical ambient levels.

    • @0mnikron702
      @0mnikron702 Před 2 lety

      @@MachinesMore Im running it at stock 5900x in a DA2 case with temper glass and during cod it stays high 70s to 80 playing at for 4k with a 3080Ti FE

  • @93SupaFly
    @93SupaFly Před 2 lety

    wait this is the SE-904XT Slim version right ? wondering if it able to cool 10700k in inwin a1 plus, 2x intake bottom, 1 intake rear (the cpu cooler ), 1 side exhaust.

  • @m1af72
    @m1af72 Před 3 lety +1

    What's the noise floor? The A9x25 is basically intolerable above 700rpm, so running it at 1500 seems insane to me.

  • @TheBorsMistral
    @TheBorsMistral Před 2 lety

    Cover plates easy to remove, recolor and put back?

  • @espen990
    @espen990 Před 3 lety

    Is it possible to remove the top covers of the thermalright heatsink?

  • @herogreat2797
    @herogreat2797 Před 2 lety

    Amazon has it. Just bought one

  • @metwo74
    @metwo74 Před 3 lety

    Thermalright produces among of the best case fan and cpu cooler. It's widely available here in Malaysia.

  • @michaell.5992
    @michaell.5992 Před rokem

    Can you use any of these CPU-Coolers for the new Intel i5 13600KF?

  • @someoneissomeone1911
    @someoneissomeone1911 Před 2 lety

    Does the tg panel fit with the silver soul 135?

  • @kylekuschel
    @kylekuschel Před 2 lety

    Will the silver soul fit in the ncase when used with a gigabyte b550i? I can’t tell if the higher socket placement will interfere with the top panel. I’m considering this cooler since the c14s doesn’t work with the higher placement.

    • @francis.b
      @francis.b Před 2 lety

      I have the asus b550i with the side bracket with a 120mm fan mounted. No issues with clearance. Not sure if you'd be able to run the side bracket but just throwing it out there to show how much room there could be. Best of luck.

  • @paullusty
    @paullusty Před 3 lety

    would adding a 90mm fan with clips for a push pull set up help performance? or is it like to just increase noice levels with no performance increase?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety

      I’m guessing you mean for the SS135? It would have to be in sync with the 120mm fan, so it’d have to run faster than it. The gain is typically not worth it, the key is having the intake at the back as the first “push” fan to feed the cooler.

    • @paullusty
      @paullusty Před 3 lety

      @@MachinesMore sorry I forgot to mention the cooler 😅 I'm glad you understood what i meant, thanks!

  • @juangomez-ze6km
    @juangomez-ze6km Před 3 lety

    hola. es posible agregarle 1 o hasta dos ventiladores al 904 xt? no molestan las memorias?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +1

      Es posible si sus memorias es lo suficientemente baja.

  • @pcphreak22
    @pcphreak22 Před 3 lety

    How would you have to modify a standard 120mm fan (like an a12x25) for it to fit on the Thermalright?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety

      It's the inside of the corners that don't sit flush against the heatsink screws, so you'd have to grind off the corners. With my motherboard I also have an issue because of the tall board heatsink. With the right fan it's probably fine, the concern I have is once you grind down to the structural part of the frame where it's acting as a strut, it might result in balance issues. EDIT: I tried an NF-A12x25 and it could clear on my board, but this depends on your board heatsink setup, I had to offset my fan downwards and the heatsink clips were able to stretch over. It's kind of wedged in place between the heatsink so it doesn't move but the bottom heatsink clip isn't the most secure thing.

  • @chankoeung5891
    @chankoeung5891 Před 3 lety

    Can this thermalright cool down ryzen7 5800x? At full power

  • @airrwalker
    @airrwalker Před 3 lety

    Please review the Lian Li Q58

  • @L330HH
    @L330HH Před 3 lety

    So the NH-U9S wasn't tested in a dual fan configuration? Arguably it's best configuration?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety

      It was, intake at the back and pull fan on the RAM side.

    • @L330HH
      @L330HH Před 3 lety

      @@MachinesMore I meant PUSH/PULL.
      In my Ncase M1, I had the ASRock X99 ITX with an i7-5960X OC'ed to 4.4GHz pulling around 220W. With the configuration you're specifying as a "dual fan" configuration, my temps were going above 90C; something I didn't want since I would 3D render (Blender, VRay, Maxwell) for hours. As soon as I removed the rear case mounted fan and installed it directly onto the NH-U9S for a PUSH/PULL intake configuration and with no rear mounted fan, my CPU temp dropped approximately 10-15C depending on the 3D rendering software I used.
      It'd be nice to see an additional video with each CPU cooler and the maximum amount of fans that can be installed onto them.

    • @0mnikron702
      @0mnikron702 Před 2 lety

      I have that cooler paired it with 5900x and it would get high mid 80s during some cod on 4k 3080Ti fe at stock it a good cooler but not for a 5900x and yes I also had to fans on the cooler it didnt help much

  • @alexanderkalinichenko2743

    How do you avoid noise from rear intake? Because of the grid when I tried 92 mm noctua fan it was always screaming.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 2 lety

      You mean the “cage” at the back rattling? One thing that’s helped at least for me is to use the vibration dampeners but not tighten down the fan screws all the way, and let the dampeners be fully expanded. Cuts down on vibration somewhat.

    • @alexanderkalinichenko2743
      @alexanderkalinichenko2743 Před 2 lety

      @@MachinesMore No, not the cage. If you mount rear 92mm fan as intake in Ncase, because it's pushed to the grid/grille with fins against it, it apparently creates turbulence and high pitch noise. I tried that myself and read from many other on reddit that even with 6mm spacers people couldn't manage to get rid of the noise in that configuration. My AK120 mini is set to intake from rear, but I can't use 92mm fan as additional intake because of that problem with noise/turbulence. Was wondering if you managed to solve this somehow as your noctua was mounted with rear intake and fan mounted directly to the grille.

  • @Null_pointer_
    @Null_pointer_ Před 2 lety

    ss135 is better than c14s??

  • @Rseert
    @Rseert Před 3 lety +1

    No C14s ?

    • @kazielbonn
      @kazielbonn Před 3 lety

      Don't think C14S counts as a tower cooler.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +2

      I'll be using the C14S for some config testing so that should give a good cross comparison. Empirically I know the best configs for the case but I've never sat down and benched it in a controlled fashion.

  • @tomlee2215
    @tomlee2215 Před 3 lety

    OH wow

  • @bradley9856
    @bradley9856 Před 3 lety

    Waiting for someone to make a dual tower 130mm height tower cooler that's made of just copper

  • @bottle-xz5hp
    @bottle-xz5hp Před 3 lety

    so how does one mount another type of fan on the silver soul 135?
    what about 2 fans?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Před 3 lety +1

      For the M1 two 120mm fans will be tough. On one side there is your board’s IO shroud, so typically only 92mm fans are safe, on the other side there’s RAM. For the NF-A12x25 I managed to clip one onto there and cleared my board’s top heatsink by shifting the fan down. It was a big stretch for the clips though.

    • @bottle-xz5hp
      @bottle-xz5hp Před 3 lety

      @@MachinesMore Does A12x25 fit better than T30 in the middle?

  • @DrifterKirrr
    @DrifterKirrr Před 3 lety

    Cryorig M9 would also fit.

  • @a4hope2011
    @a4hope2011 Před rokem

    Fast forward a year, and it's $40 on amazon

  • @JoelBDUK
    @JoelBDUK Před rokem

    Anyone know if this cooler would be sufficient for a Ryzen 5800x3D? (Without overclocking)

    • @freshyeet4144
      @freshyeet4144 Před rokem

      If you mean the thermaltake 135, I have see a few builds with the 5800x3d, I’m getting ready to upgrade from a 2700x in fact.
      Most say this cooler pairs well with this CPU! Keep in mind I have also heard the 5800x3d runs HOT, and you cannot over clock this CPU.
      Overall, I think you should be okay. I’ll keep you posted on how mine goes.

  • @fajaradi1223
    @fajaradi1223 Před rokem +1

    SE 904XT is kinda outdated.

  • @gamerforever4837
    @gamerforever4837 Před 2 lety

    If you are going to use aftermarket fans, why not use Bequiet? They have better cfm, static pressure than the noctura ones, or is that a low key paid advertisment?

  • @user-qn1zj5bs5p
    @user-qn1zj5bs5p Před 2 lety

    it really sound like hash machine lol