China-Taiwan: Japan's involvement in 'eastern Nato' could bring total war in Pacific | Superpowers

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • "If Japan is openly involved in some kind of eastern Nato...it's got to be handled very carefully."
    Tensions are high between China and Japan, and the latter's entry to Aukus could escalate tensions in the Indo-Pacific, says Michael Binyon, former Moscow correspondent.
    Michael is joined by host, James Heappey and military intelligence expert Philip Ingram.
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Komentáře • 140

  • @petemiller9972
    @petemiller9972 Před 6 dny +35

    America needs help defending freedom

    • @jaezon4040
      @jaezon4040 Před 6 dny

      Yes. Europeans have been getting a free ride for too long and then have the audacity to bite the hand that feeds them.

    • @user-mz3in7vo5b
      @user-mz3in7vo5b Před 6 dny +3

      America need help from themselves, to fight their greatest threat....
      Themselves...

    • @MysliusLT
      @MysliusLT Před 6 dny

      Only because your wild capitalism companies moved production to communistic state. Smart move U.S., smart move. Should have moved to India instead.

    • @sandponics
      @sandponics Před 5 dny +2

      America needs help with financial/economic planning.

    • @user-yw4rx6kb3r
      @user-yw4rx6kb3r Před 5 dny

      Why? America is supposed to be invincible.

  • @TEKANNON-bz9fm
    @TEKANNON-bz9fm Před 6 dny +11

    What we see going on literally around the world is the gradual and inevitable moment when one of the leaders of opposing forces makes a fatal gesture that is regarded as a provocation by the other side and boom, boom, boom; there goes summer vacation for 2024 up in smoke and ash so hot and thick that it will make the 51° heat in this year's Mecca seem like a Turkish bath in comparison. Does that make sense and if not let me just say this? What we have to do and say out in the open from the west is to ask our authoritarian counterparts to step into our moccasins for a fortnight so that they can understand the bind we are in. President Putin wants to take a stroll in the past and re-create the glorious Russian Empire. Anyone can see that is a very interesting goal. The deal is though that we in the west don't look back because we aren't going that way. We swear by a doctrine that simply says a sovereign nation like Ukraine cannot be chopped up on a butcher's block like a side of beef and be parceled out in chunks of territory to be annexed by a greater power. We have to hammer this home to leaders who are considered the right hand of God in their countries that we cannot move from this premise or all that we stand for comes down like a house of cards. We cannot be intimidated by nuclear saber rattling no matter how scary the horror of nuclear holocaust beckons to back down from. President Putin needs to see that the world has moved on and Russia has all the land she is ever going to have like all the rest of us.

  • @AlphariusDominatus
    @AlphariusDominatus Před 6 dny +18

    We got NATO and now EATO(East Asian Treaty Organization)
    The United States, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Taiwan, The Philippines and Vietnam.

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 Před 6 dny +1

      Very unlikely Korea would join anything broad. They need to keep their focus on the North.

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus Před 6 dny +5

      @@HKim0072 They are strong enough for both. Besides if N.Korea attacks they will have the other Nations getting their back. That's how Alliances work

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 Před 6 dny +4

      @@AlphariusDominatus Dude - I'm Korean. The government has explicitly said they aren't getting involved if anything happens in Taiwan.

    • @danl5592
      @danl5592 Před 6 dny +3

      ​@@AlphariusDominatusN Korea just signed a mutual agreement with Russia 🇷🇺 as an alliance to protect each other. Plus Russia 🇷🇺 alliance with 🇨🇳 plus BRICS alliance. 😂😅

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus Před 6 dny +9

      @@danl5592 Russia can't even protect itself. 🤣

  • @gadgetgus
    @gadgetgus Před 6 dny +4

    Team Times 👊🏼
    Another great podcast with these three luminaries of international military-geopolitics.
    Especially with the above panel or Prof. Michael Clarke, and others, as I value their specialist experience & knowledge, which makes them authentic and a great listen...
    Keep up the great work! 🍻

  • @dpelpal
    @dpelpal Před 6 dny +31

    I think most people are just laughing at what a joke the Rushin' army is🤭

    • @jyy9624
      @jyy9624 Před 6 dny

      Really I think Russian elites and their deadly corruption - poor coerced guys or hard up guys

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus Před 6 dny +15

      @@danl5592 how is Russia supposed to help North Korea when they can't even help themselves in Ukraine?

    • @nicklasaxelsson71
      @nicklasaxelsson71 Před 6 dny +1

      What about Nato are some succe.?

    • @derwolfpack3599
      @derwolfpack3599 Před 6 dny

      @@danl5592 Two years into the 2 week special, speaks for itself, as does Russia's😂 friends, Iran and North Korea. Not looking good for Vlad.

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP Před 6 dny +3

      @@danl5592 And start watching what, exactly? In which media is the Russian army not a total joke?

  • @reyesquintero4278
    @reyesquintero4278 Před 3 dny +1

    China fears Japanese involvement; because Japan understands that in war, there are no rules

  • @erichert1001
    @erichert1001 Před 6 dny +14

    Nonsense. China's REACTION to Japan's involvement in 'eastern Nato' is what could bring total war in Pacific. Please place blame where it is deserved.

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus Před 6 dny +7

      People need to worry less about what China will do and more concerned about whether The United States of America decides enough is enough and call all the bluffs from the Dictators.

    • @boota1979
      @boota1979 Před 6 dny +1

      @@AlphariusDominatus And what precisely will the US do on their own? When did they last win a war on their own?

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus Před 6 dny +6

      @@boota1979 Iraq. Twice.

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP Před 6 dny

      Exactly. Who are the nincompoops writing these Chamberlain-esque headlines?

    • @oldernu1250
      @oldernu1250 Před 5 dny

      European experts, like these guys, convinced politicians that Russia was rational and could be influenced. Ditto China. Have little confidence in opinions that conform so neatly to their well reasoned consensus, which has consistently ignored or diminished the aggressiveness of terroristic authoritarian governments.

  • @paulmatters2641
    @paulmatters2641 Před dnem +1

    So these clowns want to restore Japanese militarism. Unbelievable

  • @andypickett1
    @andypickett1 Před 4 dny +1

    So if you install a burglar alarm in your house you're declaring open season for burglars. The title of this video is ridiculous.

  • @DaveB1
    @DaveB1 Před 6 dny +6

    Nuclear bombs were no deterrent in the Falklands war, which has an equivalence to Taiwan. Nuclear Submarines were and are very relevant with conventional weapons...

    • @Mozart69938
      @Mozart69938 Před 6 dny +1

      Argentina had no nuclear weapons

    • @nicholasmaude6906
      @nicholasmaude6906 Před 5 dny

      Argentina had no nukes.

    • @DaveB1
      @DaveB1 Před 5 dny

      @@nicholasmaude6906 we did though. And it didn't deter Argentina

    • @DaveB1
      @DaveB1 Před 5 dny

      @@Mozart69938 nuclear powered sub deterred the belgrano!

    • @nicholasmaude6906
      @nicholasmaude6906 Před 5 dny +1

      @@DaveB1 The Junta ruling Argentina thought they'd get a quick victorious war but instead got a humiliating defeat which ended military rule in Argentina.

  • @tcp1623
    @tcp1623 Před 6 dny +3

    The example with Denmark and the phone message saying we surrender in Russian, is about 50 year old and not relevant, not even for jokes presented by a dude commenting on present day situations

  • @brentsmithson6172
    @brentsmithson6172 Před dnem

    War?...It isn't worth it. Modern conventional weapons create a no-win situation for either side...complete destruction without the threat of nuclear fallout. What is there to gain once you destroy everything you're fighting for?

  • @alfred-vz8ti
    @alfred-vz8ti Před 4 dny

    news flash: japan has no credit in prc. entry to aukus would ensure japan would head the 'to do' list.

  • @weqe2278
    @weqe2278 Před 5 dny +1

    Chines ambitions are first and foremost economic. Now, that they are in fact a superpower, they want these Islands. I don't see anything surprising about that.

  • @bertiballermann5812
    @bertiballermann5812 Před 4 dny

    During the past 850 days we have wittnessed how the battlefield changed - essentially a micro air force providing a sort of air-dominance or parity which leads to the loss o thousands of battle tanks and steers the conflict towards a war of attrition with WW I style trench fighting. I think we should all be ready and prepared for a change in nuclear posture and warfare as well. I don't know what it will be like, but capital cities that could be bombed and destroyed conventionally in WW II are sometimes a factor of 5 larger than 75 years ago. I am afraid this factor will play a role in the development of future nuclear doctrines.

  • @daneurope9167
    @daneurope9167 Před 5 dny +1

    we can call it E- NATO..

    • @Minhzvi
      @Minhzvi Před 4 dny

      Attention Atlantic and Pacific are two different parts of the sea that is 70% area of the earth. Culture and languages groups in the far east also differ considerably like the CJKV group only Vietnamese resembles Latin alfabet. 😂😂😂

  • @bdub1934
    @bdub1934 Před 4 dny

    No! it could stop a war from hapening!

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 Před 6 dny +1

    Alliances are important. If only the Europeans could get over their intellectual deficiency to realise that and end the punitive trade embargo they’ve inflicted on Australia for generations.

  • @davidhibbs6989
    @davidhibbs6989 Před 6 dny +1

    Speculation galore 😔

  • @JosephHoggang-bk4bk
    @JosephHoggang-bk4bk Před 6 dny +3

    Strenght will discourage invasion. There is strenght in numbers.

    • @stevenhull5025
      @stevenhull5025 Před 4 dny

      That means NATO must be extremely weak then???

  • @thefpvlife7785
    @thefpvlife7785 Před 3 dny

    I also have 3 aircraft carriers like China. They don’t work.

  • @johngodden4363
    @johngodden4363 Před 5 dny

    Nuclear power does no longer equate to superpower status. It also implies power projection capability. That is why China and India are expanding their blue water navies and are building multiple aircraft carriers.

    • @stevenhull5025
      @stevenhull5025 Před 4 dny

      and their enemies are building millions of long range drones

  • @vincentfoxall5704
    @vincentfoxall5704 Před 6 dny +1

    We used to have seato in the sixties until the Russian sympathetic labour government pulled out after the Indonesian confrontation and labour always arselick the prevailing communist leader's.

  • @ginoperri2090
    @ginoperri2090 Před 6 dny +1

    La Russia non ha bisogno di espandersi , Ha il 50 % delle ricchezze globale . Sedetevi e comandate il mondo insieme . PARLATE DI PACE ,se volete bene alle vostre famiglie.
    PACE

    • @Minhzvi
      @Minhzvi Před 4 dny

      Delusional people who speak English Remember Trump ? Invented Indo pacific? Now they are mixing Atlantic with Pacific just because NATO became their mantra that they forgot A stands for Atlantic Ocean

  • @BrenticusMaximus1
    @BrenticusMaximus1 Před 5 dny

    This comparison on naval numbers is intentionally misleading, which is cunning. However the comparison would be a bit like “I only have one fully loaded aircraft carrier against the whole Zulu army” 👍

  • @darrenmarchand6991
    @darrenmarchand6991 Před 6 dny

    They're not superpowers shouldn't call them that

    • @XOXO-if8yo
      @XOXO-if8yo Před 5 dny +1

      UK is a superpower 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheOpethOfMastodon
      @TheOpethOfMastodon Před 5 dny

      Term gets thrown around way too loosely. The US has been the sole superpower since the fall of the USSR. Everyone else is some degree of a great power or regional power.

    • @stevenhull5025
      @stevenhull5025 Před 4 dny

      The ONLY superpower is the Lord Jesus and will bring ALL NATIONS to their knees

  • @robertmoyse4414
    @robertmoyse4414 Před 6 dny

    Yet another repeat of a previous video with a new title. Thumbs down.

  • @gerardodeguzman9802

    china loss the war vs..japan korea taiwan phils..in
    dia.aukus 100.submarine missil..thousand drone.plane missali bomber b52 b 21..2..1..
    thousand ship n unmanned submarine missile chima experience heavy flood

  • @joelturley4847
    @joelturley4847 Před 6 dny +9

    Winnie the Gay 🌈 Pooh Bear 😂

    • @dpelpal
      @dpelpal Před 6 dny +2

      I just hope he doesn't scream _Taipei in THREE DAYS!_ like Pootsie' did about Kyiv. Although it's fun to laugh at what a joke Rusha' is🤭

  • @user-oq1oc4qx4p
    @user-oq1oc4qx4p Před 3 dny

    Taiwan and Penghu are leftover issues from World War II. See Treaty of San Francisco.
    At the time, the U.S. government helped the Chinese Nationalist Party (Republic of China), which had been defeated in the Chinese Civil War, escape to Taiwan, which was then a Japanese colony. Look at Formosa betrayed. Formosa is the original name of Taiwan.
    After the Chinese Kuomintang came to Taiwan, it still maintained dictatorial rule, but moved towards democracy under pressure from the United States, and the Taiwanese entered the Republic of China to fight for their rights.
    The Chinese who lost their privileges in Taiwan united with the People's Republic of China to steal Taiwan and Penghu.

    • @AC-he8ln
      @AC-he8ln Před 3 dny +1

      Actually we could say the name "Taiwan" exists before "Formosa", but referring only to the southern part of Taiwan. The aborigines in the area later colonized by the Dutch called their own area Taiouan, a name later picked up by Dutch and Fujianese to refer to the whole island.

  • @globalital
    @globalital Před 5 dny

    James heappey is deluded and hasn't got a scooby doo

  • @HKim0072
    @HKim0072 Před 6 dny

    Zero chance. All the SE Asian countries are playing both sides with the exception of the Philippines.

    • @user-pd5qz2vt2c
      @user-pd5qz2vt2c Před 6 dny +2

      Phillipines...and Australia, and Vietnam, and Japan, and South Korea, and...

    • @TheOpethOfMastodon
      @TheOpethOfMastodon Před 5 dny

      They do a balancing act between both sides, until one side becomes too inconvenient. I don't see Vietnam helping Russia anytime soon, seeing as though Vietnam and China are beefing, and Russia being in bed with China.

    • @ryanspinoza6586
      @ryanspinoza6586 Před 3 dny +3

      Philippines was playing both sides too until China decides to put military bases beside them and claim their shoals and islands while denying them from drilling their own gas/oil just a few miles beside them. China pushed PH into the corner and wonders why they've stopped being neutral and ask for US' help.

  • @NeidlichesSchwert
    @NeidlichesSchwert Před 6 dny

    Who the f#ck is "Zhee"?
    Do they not have a basic "sh" sound in England?
    Or is there some weird racist idea that "zh"-whatever is more oriental sounding?

    • @xanderreyno
      @xanderreyno Před 5 dny +1

      One of these men is clearly northern Irish, not English.
      It's fair to correct the pronounciation of a name but to accuse and entire nation of millions of people of racism based on three men, while also displaying your ignorance of where they are even from, is a special type of gaslighting ignorance.
      Ironically displaying your own racism in the process.
      Maybe calm down and just politely make your point.

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 Před 7 hodinami

      Xi...is a little difficult to pronounce unless you've studied Mandarin.