Is Potter out of his depth at Chelsea?
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Chelsea boss Graham Potter has only one win in 2023, with his team 10 points off the top 4.
Jon Mackenzie asks, is Potter out of his depth in the job?
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As a Chelsea fan, when you said âLetâs just have a look at how Chelsea played yesterday,â I expected the overhead camera shot to reveal a giant pile of dog s*** on the touchscreen table.
Well articulated. đ€Łđ€Ł
flexible dog s***?
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LMAO
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I feel like this video still hasn't convinced me he deserves much more time. Also, notice that the two under performing teams in terms of Xpts are Brighton and Chelsea--this brand of football seems to be better statistically, but not in reality.
yeah, brighton always underperformed on their xG and xPts with potter. Might also be down to not having clinical strikers at either club though
Jonâs videos are never convincing.
also notice how Brighton and Chelsea both don't have elite strikers. that's the reason, its not the style of football
The expected stats show it, both teams play generally well, even when underperforming. Brighton were limited when it comes to transfers, chelsea are not. Its a matter of properly reinforcing the team, unlike we did last summer.
@@IEPerez1994 just spend another 600m thatâll do the trick
Good analysis. Iâd generally argue that the âright trajectoryâ is only over a 2 game period, which isnât enough data to say weâre seeing a measurable improvement.
And those two games are Southampton and West Ham.. Both in the relegation zone.
Note that those are 10-game rolling averages ending on those two matchdays
@@drwhb13 makes more sense đ
"Lets have a look at Chelsea's best team" *Has Azpilicueta at right back and Reece James on the bench*
The first thing i noticed as well
Think it's because James is injured. Can't be otherwise
@@jabarshi i was thinking the same thing until i saw chillwell in the lineup
Tifo have been quite confusing recent days even the tactics presented chelsea donât play anything like that
@@GameDayGuardian chilwell is fit
We have one hand on that Expected EPL Title.
I'd even take a 5-0 hammering against Spurs if it will mean Potter getting sacked
Iâd take it at this point too
Unfortunately we play too well for that to happen.... We simply don't score goals
Sadly, I'm here as well. Maybe a 10-0 drubbing will stop the trust the process madness.
Agreed, couldn't care less if we lost a derby if it mean that this clueless Potter gets out of our club in the long run.
Even though I never wanted Lampard at least in his time, there was something to cling onto , all the young players he introduced played well ,Tammy , Tomori , Gilmour , Reece, Mount all played well
Under Potter there's literally nothing to chew on, I can't see one player who improved under him , cant see any element of our play that has improved
Kepa improved
our passing and vertical play has definitely improved. I couldn't take anymore of tuchel's side to side play.
Our press has suffered badly too, probably the reason weâre 17th if you count potters arrival as start of season
@@edge1rated2superstar kepa improved out of necessity đ
@@djacks247 We don't possess as much as TT, when teams stay deep we still play a lot of side way passes, Potter's improvements are too small to even identify, that's why they used stats in this video a lot, there isn't much tactically visible, everything is half cooked.... might be progress in the right direction or inability of implementation..... the next 3 games will be key....
Jesus look at all those players on the sides đ
Jesus is about the only player Chelsea didn't sign. 22 players on the sides.
It's surreal to think Chelsea just spent more than several national competitions on players who I've no idea will be any good.
Interesting take. I had some similar observation during that dreadful first half. It looks quite 4-4-2 to my eye, and there was an absence of refinement in their tactical approach, almost going man for man all over the pitch, and hoping to overturn Southampton by the sheer quality Chelsea players have over their counterpart.
It might have worked the other day, but the state of Chelsea was so fragile, and they were on the backfoot from Minute-one.
The problem is the sheer lack of squad harmony. It's something that happens when you don't have a lot of vocal leaders and instead of grooming academy youngsters you decide to bring in a dozen new players which combined with a completely new project manager is a not a good mix. Honestly feel like they should've bought experienced players (23-27) instead of this random mish mash of young attackers.
They don't even have a pressing system. It's like chase whoever has the ball with so little in covering passing options. And lack of understanding is a bit worrying.
Our shape when we have the ball is so basic and it makes our build up so crap. Why are our full backs in line with our CBs in possession? Why is Enzo isolated in the middle? I dunno why we have gone away from the back 3. Itâs the best formation for the squad. Tuchel realised that and went straight to a back 3. Potter main system was exactly that at Brighton, so why is he deviating from it?
@@newrecruit100 they mentioned the reason why I guess. Potter plays a fluid system and the back three should've worked but the players probably didn't respond. As for Enzo, I think that's by design ( like a single pivot). They're highly disorganized for sure but it's not just Potter s issue tbh. He's shown that he can coach players that are much worse in terms of ability. It's not as if there's no plan, sometimes players just don't respond to it and that's a cultural issue. Honestly, he needs a core group of leaders. Any good team has that but at Chelsea you'd be hard pressed to find it. Azpi rarely plays and without him there's 0 leadership on the pitch let alone off the pitch.
@@arpansagar6453 Chelsea really should've never sold Jorginho. That's a big L for me. If Jorginho is still here, he can be the no.6 while Enzo can have more freedom to go forward. Also Jorginho and Thiago Silva can be that leader figure on the pitch.
As a Saints fan, i appreciate Potter's charitable donation of 3 points to us đ€Łđ€Ł
Harry Potter: The Boy Who Lived
Graham Potter: The Boy Who Donates 3 points
No problem mate đđ i want to see you guys stay up anyway
short answer: yes
long answer: HELL YES DUDE!
As a person that has followed him since he was trainer in Ăstersund (ĂFK). He can make normal players good. Thats what he does. He has worked with players with a total different mindset. Not winning the league. All clubs he has been with has been with underdogs. Me as a Brentford supporter can se vary many similarities in Potter Grahams work and Brentfords trainer Tomas Frank.
Which means he is a midtable coach.
Not an elite coach....
@@wisdomnzube4121 totally agree. I hoped he would stay in Brighton and se if they would be even better then they already are
@@samuellassman7668
He was into his 4th season at Brighton when Chelsea came.
@@wisdomnzube4121 Yes its long if you compare to other trainers. I like when trainers stay longer then that. Like Potter Graham did in ĂFK and Tomas Frank in Brentford
@@wisdomnzube4121 Yet arteta was given 2 seasons and look at where arsenal are now.. there are very few times where sacking the manager has actually proved to improve the team if arsenal sacked arteta after finishing 8th they wouldn't be here today
Tuchel almost had the same injury woes last season but we never lost 3 games in a row like this... we has Pulisic playing Wing back and striker... Chaloba and James in Mid...
Tuchel failed to win two games in a row since the fall of 2021 like 66% of the time.
Man use malang sarr and Saul niguez to finish top4.... yet still Chelsea fans disrespect him and wanted him out.... as a Chelsea fan I'm happy potter is sinking us đč
@@stnbch3025 that's better than losing 3 games in a row my friend
@Quabena Monster imagine just imagine, its hard to understand at times
â@@stnbch3025 You went from not winning 2 games in a row 66% of the time at worst to winning 2 out of 16 at best lol
I think Jon's bang on in his closing statement. Chelsea under Potter will continue in their current trajectory.. losing to Southampton, dropping out of Europe, struggling against Fulham and West Ham. Top stuff as always, Jon!
Heâs clearly a great coach, but not an elite one. That for me is the simple difference.
As a Chelsea fan, Iâm used to seeing elite mangers come and go. Iâd LOVE to see a homegrown coach succeed here. And I also know, having an elite coach doesnât always work out. Thereâs no guarantee of success⊠but my word, thereâs a much bigger chance, right?
With Potter, it feels heâll fall into the category of a ânearly world classâ manager. The ones like Moyes, Rodgers, Martinez, Redknapp (just a few off top of my head) who we all respect, acknowledge theyâve done a great job wherever they go but seem to lack whatever is needed at the very, very top.
Chelsea is an elite club. It needs an elite coach. Especially now with all these new players in, the level of talent is incredible rn.
He lacks an aura that Iâd associate with a Chelsea coach. I appreciate that might sound weird.
A few more of these performances, and I think heâs done. I hope he can turn it around, but I have little faith.
Moyes got Everton and West Ham into Europe. Rodgers got Leicester into Europe and won the FA Cup. He finished 2nd with Liverpool and was in the title race. Martinez won the FA Cup with Wigan. Redknapp was top 4 with Spurs. The best Potter has achieved is one of the lowest points totals for 9th in recent years and is struggling to better that with Chelsea.
9:02 any Chelsea team that doesn't include James is not their best team.
So let me get this straight.You're saying he's changed his system and approach because it wasn't working. He then gets loads of players bought in for huge money and then tries to rely on those players' quality to win the ball back and progress the ball forward,rather than having a clear identity of what he wants his players to do in those stages of play. So if he's the coach..what exactly is he coaching? Sounds to me like he's been given all these players but didn't really ask for them,and is fumbling desperately to find a way to get the best out of them in any way he can,rather than have a clear identity and have the players fit that system. So now he's throwing his principles and system out the window and relying on their quality to carry him out. That's not going to work.
Yup he's been changing the starting lineup way too much. He should've been upfront with the players that they are going to have to fight for their position in the squad as there is obviously way too many of them in excess.
With Potter inheriting the poor existing attackers that got even Tuchel sacked, the onslaught of first team arrivals to bed in midseason, and the massive amounts of injuries to key players. I'd evaluate at the end of the season and go from there. Top 4 is already out of reach, relegation is not realistic, sacking him any earlier helps nobody, and tbh is not a true reflection of his ability or the situation at the club.
Wow the first sensible Chelsea comment I've seen today lmao.
Totally agree. Iâm willing to lose a few more games and let him work it out. He inherited a disjointed team of players that even Tuchel was struggling with towards the end of his tenure. Ppl seem to forget that there were already fans asking for Tuchel to go towards the end. Because of the sanctions that were imposed we couldnt buy early in summer and eventually made knee jerk buys like cucurella, Koulibaly Aubameyang. We then had a series of injuries to chillwell, James, Forfana, Sterling, Pulasic, and RLC. Who letâs face it not all have returned to their full fitness. James doesnât look like heâs playing back to 100% yet. Potters now been given a load of new players who have just come from different leagues, countries, personalities and playing systems. And weâre all expected for all these new players to hit the ground runningâŠ. Get real ppl. It ainât going to happen for some time. Most managers need a whole close season plus half a season just to get a team playing to his wayâŠ. It happened at Forrest with Steve Cooper. Too many players at once and heâd struggled but heâs slowing turning it around. As much as Abramovich gave us huge silverware the constant hiring and firing of managers has caught up with us and we still have players who played under Di Matteo. That was 8 managers ago⊠crazy! And even if they sack Potter. Whoâll will replace himâŠ. Some ppl are saying Tuchel? The same guy who back in September I was reading plenty of fans saying heâs âgotta goâ. I wish real fans would back their team through thick and thin and show support for any manager.
Potter deserves time. And Boehly is a sensible man if you look at his past work with LA Dodgers. He built that team slowly and steadily. I hope he doesn't go in a frenzy like Abrahamovich.
Finally a sensible comment from a chelsea fan. Give him time.
Not to mention they need to get rid of about 10 players next transfer window. Then the remaining players will know their role and buy in to his ideas better. Hard to keep 33 players happy.
i think potter will probably go back to a more flexible system next season after having a full pre season to work with the players, the manager and so many of the players coming in mid season makes it very hard to do anything other than a relativity simple and standard system
Unluckiness?? We should have been 2-0 down in that first half..we were absolutely rubbish, the only reason why xG is high is cos we were desperate and went end to end in second half to score a goal not cos we played well
can you do a video on the difference in Liverpool the last two games?
He hasn't given Chelsea fans any reason to think he is the man for the future even if they are bad atm. Small things like how he speaks to the media or about referee decisions are put more onto the spotlight when they lose. He's giving me Moyes at United vibes.
There's something fundamentally weak about Potterball at the moment no doubt. But Potter does have the potential to firm up this team to a system of football that works or at leasts gives his successor a leg up
Maybe people will say GP was a good manager in Brighton, but in Chelsea FC good is not enough. You either need to be great or an elite manager to handle the job. With this loaded team of players, idk whether he can get them to gel anytime soon. đ€·đ»ââ
Sometimes good managers just aren't cut out to make the step up to a big club.
At United we saw that with Moyes, and for me, it looks like that with Potter at Chelsea.
But if I were a Chelsea fan; I'd be far more worried about Boehly having become their own Woodward... that should terrify them.
What worries me about Chelsea and and their fans is, they seem to not release that this limitless spending can't go on. They still have to follow ffp rules. But if this doesnt work out, they cant make significant changes anymore.
@@Niro314 the spending is not the issue. The coach is more of an issue than any spending you make. If you spend the whole world it is still the coach that will make that work
@Noah it all hinges on if they get this spending right; but it looks like they aren't. It's similar to Woodeard buying players who take the same positions up, while not buying players who fit the missing pieces (like a cdm).
The nature of the deals is more confusing. Mudryk for that much money and on such a long deal, looks bad business atm.
I haven't seen enough of Mudryk prior to Chelsea, to have a clear idea of his quality; certainly people are being way too quick to right him off now. But, he looks like there is definitely potential for him to not manage the physicality of the prem; but they have him in an 8year contract now no matter what happens with him.... it could go badly wrong.
Such a retarded opinion, he hasn't even had a pre-season with them, the whole club is in flux, literally staff who have been there for decades have left including the entire medical department. Thank God the owner isn't as dumb as people on here and will stick with Potter
@@joshuafisher4241 đ€Łđđ€Ł
OK mate đ
Xpected this Expected that. Mourinho once said statistics are for those who don't understand football. Results are the most important in a club like Chelsea. We aren't even playing free-flowing, attacking football. Just moments of individual quality, and the rest is horrendous.
My issue with XG/XA is that it's become a measuring stick to beat/support players/teams, and you can pretty much get them to say anything you want. Striker Z hasn't hit his XG? Well, he's either just having a bad run of form, or he's not good enough to put away changes he should be able to. And this depends on the narrative the person wants to tell. At some point, no Expected whatever can hide the fact that a manager/team isn't performing as they should be and something needs to be done.
I'm convinced Potter is the way for Chelsea. This is a pretty unpopular opinion and it's not hard to see why. Imo Chelsea were just unlucky in their last two matches, the only downside was their finishing. Before they can't even create a clear cut chances. On this kind of form, it's hard to win over the fans but I believe you Potter, don't give up and keep it up.
Once a blue, always a blue during high and low.
Absolutely not. I've transferred over to Arsenal for this season because of the poor results. I'm not sure if I'm sticking with Arsenal or transferring to City (Whoever is winning I'll buy their top on GW37)
Fake fan. Disgusting
Kante is short from carrying every team that he played for.
Don't understand why Potter plays 4 at the back. He has a tonne of top quality center backs to pick 3 from and free up his midfielders. Instead he plays a 2 with his only proper defensive midfielder injured meaning noones protecting the back line. Kovacic and RLC are not substitutes for Kante.
@@rishirajbose2444 Because most of the top teams in the league and europe play with 3 forwards. When you play against 3 forwards it is really hard with just 3 defenders.
At Brighton, where heâs popularly deemed to have done well, his win percentage was 31.1%; even lower than his win percentage at Chelsea.
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Not suprised they finished 16th and 9th in his last 2 seasons at the prem
Don't tell the hipsters that. Facts are highly inconvenient for their ludicrous fantasies
I wonder if the expectations are different for these two clubs...
When Potter took over at Brighton we were a relatively small club that had won promotion to the Premier League for the first time in decades and had barely staved off relegation for two seasons under Hughton. He inherited a poor squad flirting with relegation, so it's to be expected that his win percentage at Brighton was poor, especially in his first 2 seasons. He, the backroom staff and Tony Bloom transformed us from a boring relegation candidate into a mid-table club in 3 years, despite playing a riskier and more exciting brand of football. Potter might not have done well at Chelsea so far, but he defnitely did well at Brighton.
He had a 31% win percentage at Brighton. Below average manager hyped by the English media
Hes so out of his depth that yall posted this vid twiceđđ
Itâs so short-sighted from Boehly to throw so many players at a manager thatâs already had no preseason to get everyone working together
@@akamiguelsanchez9985 Boehly brings a lot of ppayers to Potter is to bench players like Mount and Gallagher but Potter keeps playing them, that's the problems
The first team squad had rotted on the vine. It needed a massive overhaul. There still needs to be a clear out in the summer.
@@akamiguelsanchez9985 it's so short-sighted from Boehly to sack a proven great manager so fast and replace him with an untested manager
Any coach coming into Chelsea had the worst possible job to come into. Hes been at the club for 5 months. Realistically his time with the majority of players is significantly less than that though.
The ripple effect from the sanctions has been huge with no club structure for half a season and limited time to really work with players because of an international break before the world cup, massive fixture congestion, then the world cup, then the worst injury crisis the clubs faced yet.
For the last few months theres been very limited tactical flexibility because of the injuries. He was moving things around but not because be had a choice to move things in ways that would be optimal for results. He just had to bend the team around what was available and was having to pull players out of the academy clearly before they were really ready for 1st team football.
Now there are options but the cohesion needs far more time than hes had to develop. Half the squad has been injured for half the time hes been at the club. You have a player like Wesley Fofana coming back that has as many games played for Chelsea as the January signings. Then half the available squad was bought in January. Thats 7 players hes only had since January to really work with on the pitch. Then you've still got a load of other injured players gradually making their way back that hes not had the chance to work with much or at all in the case of Kante. Some of these players under Potter will be lucky to have had a months worth of his coaching in the 5 months Potter has been in.
Potter won't be sacked so it's fine
He is not a top coach.
A top coach would find a way TO WIN and still drive the process of his project.
But a midtable coach can't do that...
That's why it feels nothing is working...
He don't know where to start.
Well said
Well said. Itâs a shame all the knee jerk, witch hunting chelsea fans canât realise this. Too many fans brought up with Abramovich school of thought. ie few bad games âhes gotta goâ. Which I get, it has brought us some silverware in the past but its a unsustainable working model and itâs now catching up with us. And assuming he does get the sack. Whoâd replace him. The list of candidates is slim. And whoever it is would need start all over again and the merry go round of sacked managers would start all over again
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How did Brighton get De Zerbi to replace Potter? You think you can't find a better manager than the hyped English PE teacher?
You don't call 3 wins in 17 a knee jerk reaction... That's unacceptable in smaller clubs talk more of Chelsea...
Some of us have been sounding our warning from day 1, when Potter to Chelsea rumor came...
We saw all these.
This is still the beginning....
Wow, that info graphic with the injuries is absolutely stunning!
Y'all are trying so hard man, it doesn't matter how you win or how you lose if you keep losing the same way then there's a problem
I think itâs fair to say that Potter can be both a good coach (which he is) but also he isnât good enough for Chelsea (which he isnât.) Not one player has improved for working under him, and arguably some have regressed. His âachievementsâ at Brighton were over egged, when in reality he did less than someone like Michael Laudrup did with Swansea.
Yet arteta was given 2 seasons and look at where arsenal are now.. there are very few times where sacking the manager has actually proved to improve the team if arsenal sacked arteta after finishing 8th they wouldn't be here today
Itâs tough because for Brighton potter had huge periods of underperforming and not getting points until he turned it around, but I donât feel like heâll get the time with the fans/board at Chelsea to see the turn around and also I donât feel like the players will buy into it as muchđŹ
To be out of depth you have to have depth in the first place đ
Guy's caught out deep in the Atlantic ocean đ
He is a TOP tactician
I donât think a lack of depth is Chelseaâs problem
Another typical Chelsea fan
@@monswamp258 wrong đ€Ą
So basically Chelsea got worse when Potter came in in comparison to the previous 3 managers, Lampard included đ
In no world is Graham potter better than Thomas tuchel. He is a decent manager, but wtf are they thinking letting tuchel go.
Come back to the superior club, Graham. The water bird supremes, the Swans.
Swansea?
the seagulls bro
We don't want him back
I legitimately believe Brighton is currently cementing its rep as a top 10 prem club.
Brighton is playing better without Potter
Yes heâs out of his depth.
No he wonât get sack because TB needs a docile employee. TB knows GP needs Chelsea, Chelsea doesnât need GP; GP has no leverage.
TB is not about creating a winning team. Itâs about pumping valuations until he can flip the club for a massive profit, or leverage the clubâs name to take out loans. Look at United, theyâve hardly won anything but yet remain one of the most commercially lucrative clubs. TB knows that winning trophies is just a nice to have. Especially so because itâs an expensive endeavour. Folks in the money game arenât going to hinge upon how many trophies are there when valuating the club. Itâs just not a significant determinant. Itâs not a monetary asset because you canât sell your trophies. What you can sell is players. You can see where TB has put his attention by looking at the money. The squad put together by TT is well strong enough. Surely itâs a stretch to think GPâs standards are so far beyond TT and what he can work with. There was no need for a ârebuildâ. The spending spree is not about a squad rebuilds as much as itâs packing in hype (just look at who theyâve gone for).
If trophies did matter, why would FP and co push for a non competitive ESL? If it were about testing oneâs mantle, you wonât be fearful of entering the ring with the best. These folks just want more money.
As long as there are players willing to sign to TBâs CFC for a fat pay cheque, it will keep TBâs plan going towards a fat exit. Trophies, wins are irrelevant. If it happens, great. TB could care less what comes of CFC once he gets his fat ROI.
I think potter would have benefitted from having a summer and pre season before such a big move
True they gave tuchel the whole summer and then sacked him as soon as the season started
The reason he was brought in was definitely so that when he got his summer and pre season, he would already have worked with the players for 10 months beforehand. Strictly a long term strategy, but these investors are here to profit long term.
@@hannibalsby5283 You're telling me that they sacked Tuchel who'd already been with the team for a long time, finished 3rd the previous season and won the champions league with the club and brought in an untested manager? No, they aren't here to profit long term, with any football club you aren't going to make back the money Chelsea have spent for a while, and with ffp their spending room is much smaller. Potter's off-season was the January transfer window, he had as much money to spend as he'd like and is still failing despite that..
@@moderatemapper9440 So you think they bought the club to lose for fun?
Tuchel came in halfway through the season and got them 3rd and a UCL, without ÂŁ300m being spent to back him
If/when Potter get's boot it should be well prepared and earliest after the season. And then only if the resultsa re not getting better at all. Then the new one should be one of these, Urs Fischer Union Berlin, Christian Streich Freiburg, Oliver Glasner Eintracht Frankfurt. Or if they do not accept then Louis Enrique. But a modern german manager would bring in control and discipline with human understanding too. Glasner would be my favourite.
When accounts like 'tifo football' 'Football Daily' recommend you players and managers for your clubs, be very very afraid.
Just because his teams were decent at keeping the ball at a mid table team does not mean he is suitable for a big club.
Yep. You need a big personality to manage a big club.
Surely then the last argument about using a more basic tactical structure to let the newer signings flourish is down to the better quality of the newer players and nothing to do with the tactical adjustment? I really can't see how this is a convincing argument that he's getting things right. Also, the xg and xga graph 'getting better' does not include the difficulty of the opponent which has clearly had an impact on the numbers
I think part of the question is whether a manager is responsible not just for tactics but also "getting the best out of the players." The question then becomes whether the performance in comparison to the XG is also a reflection on the manager!
The stats are misleading. Potter doesnât have a preferred starting 11, doesnât demonstrate any identifiable style of play and he has been making excuses for too long.
Heâs not up to it at the elite level.
It depends on what you call style of play.
Then again, the English has no elite coach.
I thought this was uploaded yesterday
any idea where they buy their retro jerseys from?
One thing adjacent to one of your point here: the reason potter plays in a more traditional set up, without the early flexibility, could be that he has tons of new players and wants them to gel before trying to get them playing with more fluidity. However it is sort of difficult to do when you have 31 players in your squad. If potter stays on, I do believe following a summer squad trim, Chelsea will still have difficulties for a few weeks because the real work will start then
Crazy how people talk about expected goals so much more with graham potter. To me itâs a way for a statistician to claim heâs unlucky.
Azpilicueta over James??? Also rlc has been good alongside enzo
Yes he is. He needs to realise he's at one of the biggest teams in England & stop trying to make everyone happy
Why the re-upload?
i am a chelsea fan. and having seen chelsea was absolutely destroyed by brighton under de zerbi, i think people already spotted that potter's flexibilty philosophy has so many weaknesses. to be honest i think he and the management staff should've already seen this happening by the abysmal form before the world cup. i don't know if potter already knew that his flexibilty didn't work or not, but in my optimism (or delusional) view, he knew but he can't solve the tactical problem and weaknesses due to injury. so when the winter transfer window is closed and many quality players are brought in, potter change his philosphy to be more standard one
it takes time for this fundamental change to work but he is running out of time. both fans and boehly should expect some improvements in form sooner
at least if chelsea failed to qualify for UEL, i hope chelsea don't even qualify for UECL
i think potter will return to his flexible tactical setup soon enough, but heâs new there and so are about half the squad, itâs just too much change at once to implement his tactics, needs to be a gradual change from something more basic
Nottingham Forest are 6 points behind Chelsea after signing what seems like 30 players this season. They were a championship club. Using an excuse that it takes time for players too acclimatise to a managers style of play is nonsense, Potter just isnât tactically good enough to manage a club with the expectations of Chelsea. They never should have sacked Tuchel
I understand what Jon's saying, but it still feels like trying to find excuses for the horrible state this Chelsea team seems to be in. He is obviously not doing enough, and I cannot imagine that he's a warrior in the dressing room who riles up the players given how they actually play on the pitch. I wanted to trust the process, but..how much time is too much time?
When the underlying numbers were so bad compared to the previous two managers, any modest improvement is an upward trajectory. The sad reality though is the more simple the tactic Potter uses, the less coaching influence he has on the game and the more he has to rely on player talent to carry him because heâs not a fiery motivator. Heâs not an Ancelotti or Mourinho who can rely on talented players to carry out a simple vision. Nor does he have the gravitas to carry a culture change at Chelsea.
Every one pointing at Arteta as an example of sticking with needs to remember 1) Arteta won the FA Cup his first season, 2) came from a team who won the EPL, 3) has a clear vision of wanting to develop monsters and a history of doing that. Potter has a history of middling performances, no trophies of note, and developing underperformance.
If his tactical nous was so crucial for Brightonâs success under him, why are they doing better after he left? Why are their players so sought after by other clubs? Were we all wrong and he was actually holding back a good side? Maybe.
Everyday heâs there he looks more like Niko Kovic at Bayern than Julian Nagglesmann.
All that talk to miss the main point. Potter is not the man for the job. Watching Chelsea under his management compared to under Tuchelâs itâs day and night. TT had a tactical knowledge and passion. You could see players improving and the way they were playing was attractive because of the team as a whole. Unfortunately, he was the one that got plagued with injuries and no reinforcements whatsoever. Potter comes in, does really Bad, and then gets a Mercato with Mudryk, Felix, Fernandez,Madueke, Gusto and so on. Still manages to do bad, the only difference? The quality of the players is seen. The football gets attractive because of the individual brilliance of some of these players and not because of the team effort. I canât even begin to imagine what TT would have done with these reinforcementsâŠ
âNever make too many changes at onceâ
Newcastle'a doing it right
10:06 Yes he is đ
Really nice video đ
The xG barely looks like itâs improved at all, 1 game definitely isnât a trend and it looks like a mess on the pitch
John Terry tweeted in August and said how good football Brighton are showing.
Don't worry Chelsea fans.... Are you not playing good football now?
Don't worry next season you will play better "good" football... Until you are tired....
Then you will look for a winning coach to help you with trophies.
I really don't see him as being out of his depth, he's shown a lot of the qualities you want in a great manager. But for me he needs time. Chelsea have pretty much bought another team since he came in, so that's more players that he needs to understand and get to gel, that's not easy and everyone thought Forest would be done for (at the start of the season) due to similar reasons.
But given how the Chelsea fans can be and how the owners seem to want an instant result, I'm not sure he's got that much time to left
It's awfully simplistic -- Chelsea have a lot of talented players but zero productive players. They have no game changers who can score or create a goal out of nowhere.
Too much tinkering didn't go well for a former Chelsea manager. Statistics are fine on paper, but you need confidence to be successful, and that confidence comes from a manager that makes the players and fans believe that they are going to win, not one that accepts defeat philosophically. However, I could be more philosophical about defeats if I was paid the fortune that Potter is getting.
I would like the same video about Nagelmann who's been looked at similary as Potter
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Mourinho said it best. All these fancy stats are bullshit - look at his win rate and attitude. Thatâs what counts, not xG. He is finished at Chelsea.
Maybe we will see
Chelsea being a basket case of a club, has something to do with it as well
That kit goes HARD John. đ„đđŒ I think Potter is suited for this Chelsea role. These points support my opinion. Itâs his first year yâknow. Nobody in the prem has come in and done what they wanted. It takes time.
Not true. Ten Hag, first season, sitting 3rd.
I sink you're wrong about that.
@@Impostor39890 Hahaha good reference
@@nicklikethesoup Ten Hag looks decent tbf. Shame about that.
Conte half a season top 4
The English has no top coach.... Don't expect Potter to be one.
Potter is a midtable coach....
Jumping from Brighton to Chelsea is a big ask, similar to Lampard jumping from Derby to Chelsea...
Chelsea is not a small club, don't get a small coach to lead them.
There are elite coaches....there are midtable coaches..
Don't force Potter to become elite.
To be a top and elite coach is much more than playing good football which is what Potter has done in Swansea and Brighton....
At Brighton, here and there, he got wins against Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Tottenham...
But you have to check these matches to know the situations around it....
Even at Brighton he went about 8 games winless run several times, but no one cared because it's Brighton....
yes
Boehly / Clearlake Cap have brought a private equity operating style to the Premier League. This means Boehly / Clearlake need to deliver ~20% ROI (I made up the number, but itâs a large number to attract investors no matter what) annually to investors. The typical PE investment period is 4 - 6 years with year 1 being the re-organization year, with mediocre returns. Year 2 and beyond are when superior results are expected.
Private equity firms will challenge orthodoxy when they sees an opportunity. Thus the long contracts with young stars - in - the - making. Potter has a history of developing players, too. Potter has had to rebuild essentially from scratch mid - season and with players who likely wonât be around next year (e.g. Ziyech, Pulisic, Jorginho). I agree with Tifoâs analysis. It indicates that Boehlyâs / Clearlakeâs strategy is working. They are building for the future, and will earn substantial royalties once the team achieves pre - eminence again.
Poor from you not to include all injuries. Injuries to Kovacic for example haven't been included. There are others too.
The "really basic 4231" is not how it played out though, Madueke was deep enough to be starting from a RWB position, Mount never dropped back into midfield and DD.Fofana was roaming all over the pitch, not sitting as a 9. There's way more going on there but unfortunately nobody watches the game without looking at the scoreline so it's a futile argument to say that there's been improvements recently
only say there's been an improvement when there's a win
@@moderatemapper9440 exactly.
No he does not need more time. He tinkers too much. Plus even his best tactics are suboptimal in modern football. Building up in a 3-1-6 will almost always lose to modern teams that build up in a 3-2-5 or 2-3-5. Another thing is wingers are better on the touchline than fullbacks because they are wingers.
In conclusion, Chelsea is a madness at the moment. A bad manager, gung ho owner and a team built for no particular system.
Lovely shirt you've got there!
Unfortunately football isn't about "expected" points, goals etc. It's about what actually happens
Highest position he ever took Brighton to was 10th, I think thatâs his level as a manager. I mean, look what Di Zerbi is doing with the same group of players
But they didn't bring him as the manager because he reached 10th place.
You must have forgotten that Brighton were fourth in the league when Potter left⊠if you really think de Zerbi isnât benefitting from Potterâs work from the last 3 years, you are deluded. Next season will be completely different after Potter has a full pre-season with Chelsea.
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@@tp-sk8957 didnât he leave after like 2 games? đ
@@allydoodah 8 games I think. Thereâs no telling what would have happened had he stayed at Brighton but I suspect theyâd be in about the same position they are in now. Remember that they had barely survived relegation when he came in and soon they could be in Europe, playing some of the most attractive football in the league.
Just like sancho, I never understood why anyone would simply jump to a âbigger clubâ in a moments notice, I understand itâs more money, but the money is always going to be there. And itâs about having career longevity. I think potter should have finished what he was building at Brighton.
Completely agree! Build first. These guys did a video of that Japanese winger at Brighton and his decisions were always about building! And it worked!
Mate, how many kits do you own?
Similar xG to Ciry/Arsenal/Utd. Weâre hardly conceding goals. Give the man time
The season is a write off anyway, itâs as if Chelsea fans are gagging to qualify for the conference league or something lol
Itâs mind numbing to see someone try to justify Potter keeping his job after 6 months of poor results. He has been given every excuse in the book, some valid some not but no amount of statistics can justify keeping him on at this point because the results are not coming.
Losing at home to 20th placed mangerless Southampton convincingly is unforgivable. This team had not kept a clean sheet in 26 games.
Forest, Fulham, 4-1 to Brighton! 2 wins in the last 15 games?! Even when we win we donât look convincing. I donât expect Chelsea to win ever game but atleast show some fight. With potter in charge we are toothless. The players have just been given a day off instead of training today, such a weak mentality after a disappointing loss.
My question is what does success under potter even look like? Top 4 (which should be the bare minimum), an FA cup in the next couple years? Right now itâs avoiding slipping into the bottom half of the table. What a joke.
Iâm not sure if the guy in the video even watches Chelsea. Azpi over Reece James in our best line up? Mount has been terrible all season yet he makes our best line up?
POTTER OUT. He has lost the fans and soon will lose the players.
The thing about them underperforming their xpts is that that was exactly how it was for most of his time at Brighton until the end of last season and the beginning of this one
Chelsea seems more fit playing in a 4222 or 433 (either with a no10 or false-9) based on available players.
I think 4-3-3 makes more sense for midfield solidity. The only problem is it takes out one of the billion attackers at the club.
Just accept it, Graham Potter is not an elite tactician. No structure and zero understanding of positional play which is essential to having a team create the best of chances and play efficient football in the modern game hence why he's struggling. Not surprising though because he has an "English" understanding of the game unlike Spanish or German coaches and even Dutch. No concept of a rest defence, positional play, stretching the opponents to create space, side overload and switches and add to that his defensive incapabilities. The English football education system is appalling. The only reason he's still at the helm is because he is English and nothing else. Any other manager from a different nationality would've been sacked by now. This English ego has to go. They simply don't produce coaches that are good enough especially for the modern game.
I tried to be patient with Potter but if you look at Ten Hag and Eddie Howe and even the guy that replaced him at Brighton, how they transformed their teams in such a short period of time you have to question Potter what is he doing?
that's the problem. Newcastle do esn't have winning culture so there were so humble to train & grow under Howe, same as United , they've been horrible & trophyless for a decade.
but these Chelsea guys just appeared in 7 finals & won 5 trophies less than 2yrs ago
Yet arteta was given 2 seasons and look at where arsenal are now.. there are very few times where sacking the manager has actually proved to improve the team if arsenal sacked arteta after finishing 8th they wouldn't be here today
Using stats to confuse people. The reality is what is the most important. Graham Potter is not that guy for Chelsea. Simple.
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I did the statistics check and I realized the time it would take graham potter would be way more than 3 years
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Im so depressed Iâve made a decision not to watch Chelsea play for a few weeks ill just catch the update on twitter
Lmao I thought I was the only one
I feel the same!
funny how its opposite for me, now that we r underperforming so massively, i can watch the games and expect nothing, i know we can get a draw at max, its been great
Twitter is worse for me because everyone is so emotional on there. Iâd rather watch the game and stay off Twitter lol
@@luke_will_taylor I can't handle getting bullied by Arsenal/Man U fans in Twitter anymore
Real ones know the upload yesterday....
Chelsea needs to spend more. Needs a bit of squad depth.
The problem is the Chelsea fans... after 2 decades of Roman they don't know how to be patient... judge him next season when the squad is closer to his choice and they have a proper striker/finisher.
I think any fanbase would be unhappy if the manager had only won 2 games out of 15 :(
Iâm not Potter Out btw. Just saying that you canât blame the fans for being upset!