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Rory giving so much credit to Emery for reaching a European final - the Europa League - with Arsenal, and none to Poch for reaching a European final - the Champions League - with Spurs
Arsenal have never won the European cup so yeah it is big for both clubs
Emery has won 4 Europa leagues
@@thiagoalcantara7371 Arsenal have won the Europa league before (before it was called the europa league)
@@JLB00333 spurs have more european glory than arsenal so why u thinking hes trolling
@@marccutirellaspurs and their lauded audi cup ❤
Give Arteta some credit. He won the FA cup with David Luiz and Mustafi.
He's spent half a billion and won nothing since...
@@DanielLoveMetallica£680m in 4 years on 22 players, literally rebuilt the entire squad. Now’s the time trophies come.
@@DanielLoveMetallicaSpent half a billion, and got to a title challenging team, and back into the champions league for the first time in nearly a decade.
@@DanielLoveMetallica why are you pocket watching? It's not like other rival clubs haven't spent a comparable amount or more in that time, too.
@@DanielLoveMetallicacommunity shield
“He was better than Arteta.”
Wow, I’ve never heard a worse take. I saw Arsenal concede 32 shots to WATFORD. Needed 3 points from 4 games for top four and didn’t win a single game. Went to Baku in a European final and got absolutely smashed 4-1. Rewriting history like this is insane. Arteta has revived the club, it’s been unbelievable
...then proceeded to buy Pepe for a club record fee and bring in David Luiz and Dani Ceballos on loan. Raul was doing dodgy deals, Auba and Laca doing nitrous, and Ozil and Kolasinac were getting in knife fights. It was peak banter era in 2019. The fact that Arteta came into that shit show of a locker room after Ljungberg's interim period and THEN have to deal with Covid to where we are now is worth the $ spent and more.
@@bergiefbaby Ye plus are squad value is absolutley insane, if for some reson we cant keep hold of a player we can now reinvest easily
Tbf Emery has said he didnt want Pepe, he wanted Zaha. But the club wanted Pepe instead@@bergiefbaby
And how has Arteta done in European finals? Or that matter how has he done in Europe against Emery?
We conceded more goals that year than both the 8th place finshes under arteta. Emery had golden boot auba bailing him out, we were woeful.
Emery came into Arsenal when it was very toxic. Big players with big egos. He kept trying to manage them and failed. Arteta came in for his first ever managerial job. Big players with big egos, he got them out of the club. Now fans have fallen back in love with the club.
No Arsenal fan would trade Arteta for Emery.
give it some time. arse fans are as fickle as they come.
Bro forgot not to lie🤝
he was the one making it toxic
facts, Emrey bottled the ozil situation, arteta gave him 1 chance and then just kicked him out
Problem is big teams will always got big players and big egos.
Everyone keeps forgetting that this is Arteta’s first ever Manager’s Job… his first year won the FA cup, first full season 8 then 5th and then 2nd… that is progression for his first ever job as a manager…
wat a comment 👏👏👏
I hate Arsenal, but the disrespect on Arteta is insane.
I'm a Newcastle fan, and they're the best team we played this season after City
Coming from a chelsea fan you're not in this convo you melt. newcastle are irrelevant
@@lucasforpresident you are one bitter man 😂😂😂
@lucasforpresident Newcastle are above you, and you spent a billion. Have some shame
@@lucasforpresident4-1 fucking melt 😂😂
Liverpool are better than Arsenal and we’re going to show it in a few weeks
Rory is such a romantic with this Unai chat, the man also got us slapped 4-1 in the same final that Rory keeps talking about, and Artetas 8th place finish was highly due to Unai having us in like 11th place halfway through the season which got him the sack in the first place
Yep. I think it was worse than that. We were like 15th, 16th for that period. That period was the worse since I've been an arsenal fan. Players doing there own thing, fans hating the club, directionless, playing shit football. Emry was part of the reason for that. He couldn't manage the big egos. It took 2-3 season but Arteta and Edu fixed everything. For that Arteta has to be a better manager than Emery.
From Arteta coming in to the end of the year, Arsenal were 4th in points. The history that Arteta finished 8th is wrong, he stabilised the club
aahahaahaha i like how u said that but clearly u have forgotten that arteta finished 8th again the year after when he had a full season, foolish argument
@@Milnos106 u forgot the year after when arteta finished 8th having a whole season in charge jesus how stupid are u arsenal fans like seriously?
@@joachimpetersen2301 arteta has won fuck all while emery has been dominating in europe. the man has won 4 europa leagues more than arsenal football club loool. also he went now to aston villa and is doing a remarkable job after only 1 year in charge which arteta would never do after only a year which is proven in a bigger club like arsenal. he needs many years to build while emery can drop in and get things started right ahead in a smaller club
Rory saying Emery wasn't bad just shows that you don't really understand something if its not your club. In summary, Emery Arsenal in the second season was the worst football I had ever seen Arsenal play on a consistent basis as an arsenal fan.
Got you to a European final...
Who did he have mate? Sokratis Mustafi Cech?
The irony of this comment 😂 idiot
@@DanielLoveMetallicaGot us to third then decided fuck that let’s play Jenkinson in must win games to get top 4, bottled it then got us to a European final - bottled it, then got us to 13th in the league by November and fucked off.
@@DanielLoveMetallicaEuropean final is not everything we even LOST. clubs like Roma r able to reach the final despite not even being top 4 in Series A. U can win it w/out a truly great team. Arteta built our team from the bottom u only see managers like Klopp can do that but I still think Emery is a great manager.
My top 6:
Pep
Klopp
Arteta
Emery
Howe
Ange
Liverpool fan and I rate Arteta, can talk all day about his shortcomings but he has Arsenal playing really good football
These boys truly don’t understand how bad Emery was at Arsenal. Arteta came in with an inherited squad from Emery and won an FA cup in his first mangerial job beating City and Chelsea in the process
Yeah and since then he won f all.
@@Marais-cu3vowhy do you all act like you cant see the huge improvement in our team? 😂 Its honestly ridiculous at this point
And Liverpool too.....
@@JoshAFC Chances are he isn't even an Arsenal fan in the first place. I've noticed most pple who hate on Arteta are rival fans or fans who their own clubs are in crisis.
Eddie Howe barely getting a glimmer of a reference is disgraceful. The whole argument for Ten Hag is won a League Cup and came third, Howe got to the final of that tournament and came fourth with a squad worth literally hundreds of millions of pounds less, with a squad that had players playing in the Championship not long ago and were destined for relegation. There is no comparison.
I saw the title of the video and just got annoyed immedietly because I knew I was about to witness more Eddie Howe disrespect and the video didnt disappoint
People ignore the fact Eddie Howe took Bournmouth from league 2 to top half Prem finish and then has taken Newcastle from 19th to 4th in his first full season
This may aswel have been titled managers whos won the most trophies, do we no longer just look and use logic?? Man management, improving players, style of play etc should also count but clearly they dont 🤷🏾♂️
The fact buvey said he’s young as well is baffling, he’s 46 and started management 15 years ago
Arteta has completely changed the culture at Arsenal. You can't put a stat or achievement on it right now but it's very very underrated
I'm an Arsenal fan, Go and watch our game the season he got sacked against Watford, go see the stats of all the matches after that game, we were out shot against relegation level teams and we weren't building anything in attack while looking horrid in defence. It's a sign of Emery to be caught out like that. He's a decent manager but Arteta is better.
Arteta is a wannabe Pep Guardiola always copying him, l bet if Arsenal was to play Madrid in the UCL quarter final he would copy Pep's tactics of last season game
Emery wouldn’t of bottled the league like arteta did
@@ThompsonTime794When was the last time Emery ever actually competed for the league?
@@ThompsonTime794but Emery bottled an European final 😂😂
Emery bottle top 4 when he needed only 6 point out of 5 games remaining
Funny how Rory always says Emery got us 5th as if that’s something to be happy about considering we were third with an easy run and bottled it because he decided to rotate the players in the league for no reason. Then has a go at Arteta for getting 8th the first time round when he took over a team that was 11th (13th when Emery got sacked) and won us a trophy by the end.
The only time Emery has ever finished above 5th place was in the French League with PSG. You can talk all you want about him getting Arsenal to the Europa league final, when he got there he got embarrassed by a weak chelsea team and then next season he was in genuine danger of getting arsenal relegated before he was fired.
Yeah, not to mention arteta won a Fa cup in his first 6 months beating Chelsea while Emery lost to Chelsea 4-1 in a Europe league final. Only Rory mentions the Europe league final Emery got Arsenal to because he hates arteta and also hates Sarri, but remains a Lampard cheerleader 😂
@@losgalacticos9066 Also his argument about getting Arsenal to a Europa league final is supposed to be his big push, but he says what did Poch achieve at Spurs, when Poch got Spurs to a champions league final.
Emery is a young coach, he learned.
Y'all acting like it didn't take Arteta 4 seasons at Arsenal to finally have a better season than Emery did in his first
@@Ben-gd4db Arteta won the FA cup 6 months after becoming manager, while having to try and save Arsenal from borderline relegation they nearly suffered under emery. Then in his next season he finished 8th while gutting the squad of deadwood and bring through very young players that now are the foundation for the second best team in the league. His third season he finished 5th, while his team showed continuous progression throughout the season, by far the youngest team in the league btw. Then he finished second again with the youngest team in the league, currently he's top of the league with the youngest team and qualified top of his CL group.
No sane person would take emery over arteta
Rory is on drugs.... Emery was diabolical at Arsenal... had us getting outplayed by Watford, smashed by Chelsea in the Europa final, losing many games to awful opponents... awful awful he was... Arteta is so far levels above him.
Rory thinks Emery was sacked in summer 2019. He likes to ignore the fact Arsenal we’re nearly relegated under Emery
Achievements and performances compared with the level of teams managed, Emery is so far ahead it's not Even funny
Don't care about other teams... he did well with Sevilla ... couldn't handle PSG, couldn't handle Arsenal... Villa is his level. Arteta is currently so many levels above Emery and this is his first job... @@banterclaus7963
@banterclaus7963 If we're going by achievements solely then Mourinho and Ancelotti miles ahead of Pep Giardiola😂😂😂
@@banterclaus7963 Achievements yes, but Rory outright claimed Emery was better than Arteta at Arsenal, which is utter nonsense. Emery is a great manager but after a promising start at Arsenal he completely collapsed and didn't know how to fix it. We were in free fall by the time he got the sack.
Arteta gets blamed for the 8th placed finishes when he spent those first two years clearing up years worth of deep rot left by his predecessors.
Adam is actually spot on with his Emory. Buvey making excuse after excuse. What Rory is leaving out is how and the start was the next season. They were bottom half of the table and that was unacceptable
He literally always does this. "Arteta got 8th twice in a row", when Emery's first half of his sacked season was the worst Arsenal have ever been in my time watching as a fan.
No he isn’t. He’s talking crap.
Emery bottled top 4 and a European final in the same month and then got sacked half way through the next season with arsenal in 11th.
I understand what emery has done at other clubs and don't think he's a bad manager but there isn't a single arsenal fan that would swap emery and teta around. There's a reason for this
@@michaelboiteau9890Arteta had Ars Arsenal 15th at Christmas the season after Emery was sacked and finished 8th. Who you blaming for that?
@@ijl-cy9pp I don't really get ya point. Is that where arsenal finished? Is that relevant to arsenal right now?
Try a bit harder if that's all ya got.
The hate against Arteta and the hype for Pochettino is actually Crazyyyyyy. Arsenal is his first managerial career and look what he is doing with it. Top manager ❤
They don’t like to admit it but true gooners know
Finished 8th twice with a team with 13 PL titles
@@MixzoidPochettino on his way to finishing 10th with a team that spent 1 billion and hace 2 CL titles... What's your point?
@@Mixzoid The team got 13 PL titles not the current players at that time and he was new to the job.
While ur poch is kissing UECL
Eddie Howe and Gary Oneil make Ten Haag look like his on apprenticeship
Personally I think Emery's weakness is dealing with big personalities and player's behind the scenes. It is what had the biggest impact at arsenal and is what i think stops him being the one for man u/real esc jobs. He will continue to do wonderful at villa though if they carry on with signing the type of player they have been.
Yep, does better with limitations than battling egos.
No he just had a board that was focussed on retaining players with huge egos and Emery had to handle them with kid gloves because he had no backing. I guarantee you in ANY industry if the managers aren't empowered to discipline the workers will try to take over. Luckily they finally found a backbone and let Arteta eject players like Aubameyang.
@@ijl-cy9pp bruh arsenal board including edu literally begging arteta to not kick auba but he bold say he didnt want auba in his team
@@ChoCho-db4zo but they still allowed him to axe him. No way they were letting Emery do that at that point. They were holding on to him for dear life. They eventually came round to see how disruptive he was. I'm not taking anything away from Arteta, I just don't think Emery was anything like as bad as some Arsenal fans say claim
Emery had a decent first season but capitulated toward the end. But that second season was some of the worst football I’ve seen my team play in my whole time supporting the club. The game at vicarage road was the moment I realized he wasn’t the right man to take us forward. Sometimes some managers don’t fit certain clubs
Arteta is 3rd , stop it.....What he has done at Arsenal as a manager with no prior managerial experience or stints is nothing short of phenomenal and the reason some people don't rate him is because of 1) They can't stand Arsenal fans 2) They hate Arsenal 3) They find him arrogant and unlikable for whatever reason.
My conclusion is that any manager with such inexperience, in a high pressure job where fans can get you sacked, who has the ability to develop and coach a team that is capable of challenging Manchester City and Klopp's Liverpool at the top of the table has to be given more respect. Emery currently cannot be 3rd best when statistically Arsenal have gotten more points than any other team bar City and Liverpool in the last 3 years. He hasn't won anything yet yes but there is nothing that suggests that Arsenal won't go on to win any trophies because they just keep on improving in some aspect of their game every single season.
Deep it, The guy's aim is to win the league and to do it he has to get his side to amass 90 plus points and before falling off last season in the last 8 games Arsenal were heading straight for 90 plus points based on their win percentage. It's actually mad.
I don''t think we needed the essay really mate. I hate the bloke but he is definitely top 5, does it really put your nose out of joint that much if someone thinks he is 3rd, 4th or 5th best?
@@jimelements7472You see it as an essay but man have to put some respect on Arteta because Rory is talking out his ass. I don't know if Arteta is the manager to get us over the line but expecting any manager to walk into Arsenal football club and do better than what Arteta has done that manager would have to be Elite and able to go toe to toe with Liverpool and City under Pep and Klopp...and I am sorry but Emery is NOT doing that. The guy is a cup merchant and respect to him for that but true managerial prowess is not determined only by cups but what you can do with your team for a full season.
wish I could pin your comment mate. These people from the outside have NO CLUE the job Arteta has done so far at Arsenal
@@jordandavis3867 arteta will never win a european trophy lets not pretend, what hes done at arsenal is amazing but as an overall manager he aint all that. put emery back at arsenal with this squad he would be in the same place as arteta. having 4 of the best players in their respective positions in the world is carrying this team, not arteta. give emery this team with saka saliba rice odegaard he'll match whatever arsenal do this season with arteta.
Ill Tell you now Ange Postecoglou will be in this conversation by the end of the season as 3rd or 4th best
The way they dismiss Arteta is insane. To completely change the culture and expectation of the club in 3 years is insane. Doing that while buying unproven players and developing them is crazy.
im convinced half the content on here is clickbait. imagine not thinking mikel isn’t the best manager behind Klopp and Pep. Jokers
@@MrHaiderh100%
arteta is so underrated bro. easily top 4 manager
Not now , he must win titles first .
Only underrated by clouded rival fans like this lot. Most football fans with their heads screwed on rate Arteta highly
How Arteta isn't 3rd is beyond me. Came into the team EMERY was sacked by because he was conceding 30 shots to bournemouth & relegation sides and couldnt create a chance. Arsenal were 11th. He changed the culture, got rid of a toxic dressing room, restructured the wages, had a style of play. Not to mention WITH THE SAME clowns Emery had he beat City, Liverpool & Chelsea to win the FA Cup in his FIRST EVER mangerial job. 11th > 8th > 8th > 5th and now they are one of the best teams itw. Top of the league, top of their UCL group with one of the YOUNGEST teams itw. Arsenal have the most valuble squad ite according to tranfermrkt. They look to dominate english football for the next 5 years. A long way from trying to get ozil to press and celebrating scraping into top 4. The disrespect is mindblowing, no doubt if hes name was Michael Anthony from Manchester he would be lauded as the next best thing since sliced bread. There is a reason why, Guardiola, Wenger, Poch, Mourinho, every player he has every worked with says Arteta sees football in a way others dont. They're in awe of his footballing brain. Shame noweheredays its just 'HE FACKING HASNT WON NUFFIN SINCE DA FA CUP GET HIM FACKING OUT AND GET IN A PROPA MANAGER LIKE POTTER'
Arteta has broken all of them 😂😂😂 this is his first job youngest manager by far. We will have a lot of funny moments in the end of the season
Eddie is only 5 years older and is so far clear it's actually funny 😂
How long's Howe been in management again?
Oh cos Newc's his 1st job( not)
If you want an accurate list without delusion:
1. Guardiola
1. Klopp
3. Arteta
4. Emery
5. Howe
To say Pep was given a "project" at city is hilarious. He was handed the keys to a Ferrari.
I'd still say it was a project, City before Pep were good, but you would never expect them to be this dominant if he weren't there
Yes, Pep got a project.
pep was given a project, a clear cheque (and some "ignore FFP" notes), and told to win everything. He is so over rated, he has never actually built a team himself, got promotion from a cashless club, why Klopp is, and will always be better than him.
@@joperhop their charges haven't been been proven and with some of them being about grass length it seems likely city will make a fool out of the epl
@@joperhop to you but not to the rest of the world lol, you can keep crying about nothing but the way Pep has changed football is what makes him better than klopp and is why klopp can't compare.
Arteta is top 5.
I don’t think it’s fair to judge his “5th” season when he finished a couple points off of 3rd that season whilst playing Cedric, Holding and a couple more none starters. I’m not gonna claim Arteta is top 3… but he’s done good.
He revived the club when Emery failed to do it. Emery is a good coach but is no way near Arteta, first season he had "his" squad we fought for the title. De Zerbi is better than Emery as well, Brighton doesn't have Villa budget and sell their best players every season and the guy still has them playing brilliant football. Brighton was not a Premier League club, but Potter and, in an even better way, De Zerbi have them being a consistent Premier League club. He was incredible for Sassuolo as well, getting the club to European competitions just like he did with Brighton. Got guys like Berardi and Locatelli into that italian national team that won against England as well.
Rory’s Emery Arsenal argument is shady at best, you can spin it how you want
Ultimately he got us into a final and lost it, Arteta in his first 6 months won us a FA cup knocking out Chelsea and City in the process lol.
Emery clear of arteta
Arteta knocked out Frank calma
He's accomplished nothing since
@@Alex-tn3tqand what the fuck did emery even do with Arsenal?
Rory please stop rewritting and lying about Emerys time at arsenal when he got fired and replaced the club was dire and losing every week and were like 13th and it took Arteta to right the ship to finish 8th. You lie so much about Emery its embarrassing at this point. That was season 1 that he was good season 2 is when they collapsed Rory stop lying
Not to mention arteta actually won a trophy for Arsenal in his first season beating the same team Emery lost to 4-1 in the Europa League final.
Emery has been given total control of the footballing side at Villa, something he's never had before. Villa are playing great football. I know most in London consider Villa a small club because they are from Birmingham. Villa have a massive fanbase (don't need tourists to fill Villa Park) and Villa Park is being redeveloped to hold 60k plus and they will fill it.
And hopefully, Emery will still be manager when they do fill the expanded capacity. Villa could be serious players by that time. What a time to be a Villan. UTV!
Emery wants to win the Champions League. I have no doubt he will do that at Villa.
11:38 No mention of Eddie Howe…? Scandalous. Obviously that Newcastle result didn’t humble you enough Rory. Eddie Howe is clear of De Zherbi, Ten Haag and Poch.
I can't believe I'm still subscribed. Your bios against Newcastle is unreal.
A good debate but Arteta and Howe deserve more respect.
Mckola's Ten hag delusion is hilarious 🤣🤣
The disrespect Eddie Howe gets 😂
1- pep
2 - klopp
3 - emery
4 - arteta
5 - Howe . How to be the next England manager I hope
The post-Wenger job at Arsenal was impossible, but Emery was a disaster and Rory just wasnt paying attention if he thought it was a success. He set the team up to concede 30 shots against Wolves. He was sacked after burying the club in 15th, and Arteta came in to achieve 8th and an FA Cup win
Emery was sacked while in 8th, only 1 point away from being in 5th. Arteta came in to achieve the exact same position as when Emery was sacked and the following year with full control over the club for the full season he stayed 8th, considerably worse than Emery's only full season.
@Ben-gd4db I remembered the table wrong, so that's my mistake. When Arteta got the job, Arsenal were 10th and sitting closer to the relegation zone than they were to top 4. Emery also gave us the longest winless run since 1992 right before getting the sack. The club was in free fall under Emery and Arteta provided stability and an FA Cup
@@TheLizardKingC Nope, don't let the kid gaslight you. Emery was sacked on November 29th. Arsenal were in 8th, -1 GD and 8 points off 4th after 13 games. Lost to Sheffield and Leicester away, and drew at home with Wolves, Palace and Southampton for his last 5 games. 17th placed West Ham were 5 points behind us, for context. The only thing that saved rival fans opinions of Emery was that Europa final and our 20+ game unbeaten run where we only drew 1 or 2 games. All gooners back then were all going on about how it was papering over cracks and they were worried, because as you said, we were drawing 2-2 with the likes of Watford, and conceding 32 shots on goal.
@@Ben-gd4db Arteta's first full season was the best thing that could have ever happened to him and Arsenal. He was working with nearly all of Emery's signings and players, people who didn't want to be at Arsenal anymore. Within the first 19 games, we had a run of 1 win in 13. Then Arteta decided to put faith in the youth and work on our structure, from back to front. Since then (Jan 2021), or for reference since we beat Chelsea 3-1 when Saka scored that Mudryk-esque goal, we are 2nd only to Man City in overall points in the Premier League. He's doing a fantastic job, far better than Emery did at Arsenal. Not to mention, in Arteta's first full season, whilst we finished 8th, we were 6 points off of 4th, which people conveniently like to forget. We were in 15th after 14 games, 4 points from 18th.
He was paying attention, trust me. They all were. Theyre just doing the typical 'throw rocks, and then hide their hands' approach. Many of them threw dirt all over Emerys name in 2019, I was there. Now, they're using Emery to throw dirt on Arteta's name (a novice). They did it when Emery was there, using Wenger to sully Emerys name and reputation.
Very consistent tactic with the same disgusting and malicious purpose: get the current Arsenal manager sacked.
Eddie howe and Unai Emery share third and fourth between them.
As an Arsenal fan, During Emery's time we got outplayed by Watford. We conceded 31 shots. 31 damn shots against Watford. I had never seen my Arsenal that bad. Even if we were always defensively venerable during later Wenger period we always had fast flowing football. But watching that team with no creativity still gives me nightmare.
That was the worst. The way we were playing then, I remember thinking we were going to get relegated if we didn't sack Emery. If you had told me then, in 3 season you'd be up there with Liverpool and City I'd laughed at you. Arteta and Edu have achieved wonders getting the club from that to where we are now.
Rory talking about Emery - 'He's so good he got Arsenal to a EUROPEAN final'
Rory talking about Pocchetino - 'He's hardly that good, he didn't win his European final'
Rory constantly bangs on about "we don't talk about that European final enough" and how that was the seminal moment in Chelsea becoming a bigger club than Arsenal by battering them in Baku but then wants to use that as an achievement for Emery? It's such strange logic.
I actually agree with Adam, I think Emery has shown now on more than one occasion that he's just not suited to the biggest jobs, he's had a lot of success but generally it's at clubs with lower expectations and in teams he's allowed more control over, at both Arsenal and PSG we saw that he wasn't given the same authority as he has been at his other clubs.
I still think he's the third best manager in the league on achievements personally, but that doesn't mean he'd be the right fit at every club.
1. Pep
2. Klopp
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3. Emery
4. Arteta
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5. Could be any one of Poch, De Zerbi, Howe
De zebri
5. Postecoglu
Moyes deserves a mention i think
Emery is not above Howe. Or Arteta, or even Poch. He was so fucking bad at arsenal idk history is being rewritten. He was sitting 12th place at christmas when he got sacked. LLjumberg came in lost two games and drew one, and the fans were so happy to see us putting in a fight. Thats how bad the standards fell under emery. We just got worse and worse until arteta came in.
There’s a clip of Rory literally talking about Arsenal needed to get rid of Emery saying they needed an “arsenal man”
Do you have to be in England to do the super 6 predictions?
Pep, Klopp, Emery, Arteta, Poch, Howe, Di Zerbi, Ange, Cooper, Ten Hag
A Chelsea fan, United fan, and City fan are discussing managers, do you think they’ll have kind words for Arsenal’s Manager?
United: Arteta flipped Arsenal around the way that United fans are hoping Ten Hag will. When Arteta came in, Arsenal were well below United. Arsenal are thriving while United implode.
Chelsea: When Boehly bought Chelsea he wanted to appoint a long term manager. Everyone thought that was going to be Tuchel. When he didn’t work, they turned to Potter, when they saw how well Arteta was doing at Arsenal the every went back to Lampard hoping to replicate the same. Now they are hoping Poch can do what Arteta has done and flip Chelsea around, get the fans buzzing, establish a playing style, and stay there long term.
City: Buvey has a fragile ego with an inferiority complex. He is a city fan because he doesn’t have to worry about any long History to memorize and he gets to clown on other fans because his team is just far superior to almost every other team in the world. City are guaranteed to win the EPL almost every season. Even though Liverpool have been pushing City for the past few years, currently he is more threatened by Arteta and his fragile ego can’t cope with the possibility of City, with unlimited funding, an established squad, and the best manager in the world, losing to Arteta who is the youngest manager in the league in his first job. If Arteta is at some point finally able to beat Pep and City, it will hurt Buvey so much more than Klopp doing it because Klopp is understood to be a top manager.
United and Chelsea want what Arsenal have. City fans are just egotistical and Arteta beating them would kill them.
As a united fan we don’t want an arteta he might got you playing decent football but are serial bottlers and finished 8th in his first 2 seasons he’s massively over rated
@@leemcd88888 lol. Arteta in his first year removed Ozil, Aubamayang, and several underperforming players.
If he came to United and got full backing from the club he would start that “open heart surgery” that your club has desperately needed for several years now. Say what you will but Arsenal had to take some steps backwards before we moved forward. That’s just where we were at….
@@Ishouldstudy69 arteta is over rated spent a fortune took 4 years to get champions league football won one fa cup most over rated coach going. You keep him the longer he’s at arsenal the better
@@leemcd88888 okay buddy. I’ll take him over Ten Hag ANY FREAKING DAY!! 😂😂
@@Ishouldstudy69 what ole Gunnar arteta over someone who has actually won trophies got to a champions league semi had that Ajax team playing mint football semi two finals with united over ole Gunnar arteta who’s spent 600 mil took 4 years to get his first top 4 ok then I think you need to take your meds remind me what where arteta finished in his first 2 seasons again 8th keep backing please I want him to stay at arsenal forever 😂
You have to remember Arteta (and Emery to be completely fair to him) joined arsenal while it was horrible and toxic with mercenaries at the club that didn't play for the badge; We had basically fallen so far from grace into obscurity that people was suggesting we would remain a mid table club for the foreseeable future. The culture at the club made it so you couldn't do an overhaul in one season where you buy 1 winger for £100M (Anthony) and a proven CDM (casemiro) while already having players like Ronaldo, Varane, Bruno, Sancho etc. Arteta essentially built the current arsenal squad from the ground up and is now challenging some of the greatest managers the prem has ever seen all while being the youngest manager (he's only been a manager for 4 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world having to handle all the pressure and scrutiny that comes with it and is now challenging managers with far more years of experience) with one of the youngest squads. yes its all just potential at this stage but I believe in the next 5 years Arteta will be one of the Top 10 managers in the world. Also people are very disingenuous about Artetas first season; when he took over, arsenal had just been slapped by City in what was basically a training match and sat in about 12 in the table. He felt so much pain for the club he clearly loves sitting in the opposition dugout next to pep that he had to come and drag us up to 8th and managed to win the FA cup. Then started the actual rebuild in his first full season and maintained the position and has literally gone onwards and upwards since.
P.S sorry for the dissertation I just Love arsenal and hate the slander and negative spin or narratives on our club
I agree 💪
@-10:53, listen) Annoying how Howe gets praise despite winning nad, zero, zilch an being described as a 'young upcoming manager' but this is not mentioned f Arteta.
Best not b fooled by Eddie's eternally youthful appearance; how longs he been in Management, bout 10yrs+ an most definitely not a rookie Manager like Arteta
Pep Kloop Arteta Unai Emery and Thomas Frank Brentford have so little resources but are giant killers and are consistent. Lost their best striker which guarntees them 10 goals but are still rocking tenth in the prem
the disrespect to Arteta is absolutely insane!!
The right answer is:
Pep Guardiola
Jurgen Klopp
Mikel Arteta
Arteta changed Arsenal from a banter club to title contenders in 3 years. Literally changed everything about the club. If City or Liverpool decided to change managers, Arteta will be at the top of the list above all of the other managers.
The most they have ever spoken about Villa
klopp is definitely the best pound for pound manager in the league, with the money liverpool spend they should be in that 4/5th position but klopp continues to make £30m players world class. Emery is the only one i’d put above him in terms of doing better than expected with the players he has, but i do think soon reality will hit them and they’ll drop down to a europa league spot which is still great for them. Pep is the best manager in the world in terms of if u give them all the resources necessary but with the money he spends you’d expect him to be winning the league and arguably more champions leagues than they’ve won in the last few years
Klopp bias is mad. Pep bought ake from Bournemouth and he’s world class now. You can say that pep only spends money but the fact is ake, when pep bought him, wasn’t the quality to start for a treble winning team. People think that just because he spends lots of money on players like haaland that all he does is spend money and they just ignore how klopp spent lots on Nunez, VVD and Alisson. Liverpool bias is crazy
@@unknownllama9833 mate ake cost 50m 5 years ago that was a lot of money then, that’s like 80m in todays market. For the amount he cost he’s expected to do what he’s doing now. Also if u wanna say liverpool spend big, go look at our next spend, it’s like 1/4 of man city’s in the pep/klopp era. I’m not saying city do bad business cus they don’t, they do amazing business it’s just they have more freedom than liverpool. If u gave pep klopps budget im just not sure he does as well, pep had a history of falling out with players or having signings flop, the difference is pep can sell them next year and buy someone else, or he can have 2 players in each position like he has done the last few years so if a new signing doesn’t work out there’s a backup. Klopp has what he has and that’s it. We signed alisson and van dijk for essentially the same price we sold coutinho for, if we didn’t sell coutinho we wouldn’t of bought them it’s that simple, then we bought nunez cus we sold mane for £30m
@@unknownllama9833 ah here we go again. Mentioning Alisson and VVD, but not the Coutinho sale that was only possible because Klopp made Coutinho world class. Klopp bought Robertson, Wijnaldum, Shaqiri, all from relegated clubs, Matip as a free transfer and he had City reject Milner and freakin Henderson. Pep spent almost 2 billion pounds since he is in England.
@@jch6722 why has that swiss bastards name been mentioned here lmao. shaqiri is one of the most overrated players ever to play football.
When Emery was at arsenal they had that ex Dortmund fella making all the signings before edu came in. At villa Emery has 100% control.
I agree with Adam re Emery. He’s perfect for a club just under the top clubs where the pressure isn’t as high
I think the perspective with Arteta is wrong. Arsenal is his first ever management job, won the FA cup in his first ever half a season managing, completely transformed the club culture and philosophy and has showed rapid growth going from 8th to 8th to 5th to back to back title challenges
He’s done all this in 4 years and is being compared to established managers who’ve been doing this for 1-2 decades
Unai had a new manager bounce when he came, we went on an incredible run playing counter attacking football but letting in goals for fun hence he lost his job. We went on a terrible run of form when the players got bored of his tactics and it just wasn’t working. Unai is more of a cup competition coach. If he was that great why didn’t he win the league in La Liga where he spent most of his career? He won a title at PSG why haven’t anyone on the panel mentioned that? He also had them playing a brand of football that had Mbappe and Neymar no longer love what they do. He eventually lost that dressing room then he came to Arsenal then he failed. He’s a mid table coach and can’t get a big job where he has immense pressure. He works better when he’s relaxed and have none superstars playing for him. That’s a fact.. Don’t forget.. Areta has just started his coaching career, and already in his first 200 games is the most successful coach this far in Arsenal’s history. Don’t sleep on that… All these coaches we comparing to Arteta has had YEARS of coaching, Areta has only gone 4yrs. And have already won a cup.
Mikel Arteta was appointed the Arsenal manager on the 20th of December. Rory loves to say Arteta achieved back to back 8th place finishes in his first two years. Well wait a minute, half the season of the 19/20 (Mike'ls first season) Emery was in charge. That 8th place finish, is just as much Emery's doing, as it was Arteta.
Adam is spot on with Emery. He's good with teams punching above their weight.
1. Pep Guardiola
2. Jurgen Flopp
3. Unai Emery
4. Eddie Howe
5. Mikel Arteta
The difference for Emery at Villa compared to Arsenal is he's been given more control. He has a say throughout everything Villa does including transfers and got Mochi in.
At Arsenal he was just the coach
You still dong get it. He was removed for better. We are better. He qikk huff and puff now but fail at an A+ club
@@mozi3051 Not exactly true though is it. Arsenal finished 5th with Emery and reached the Europa league final in his first season and they sacked him early into the next when he was only 1 point away from 5th and still above United and Spurs. Arteta took over and it took him 4 years to have a better season than Emery's first and only season at Arsenal. If Emery failed at Arsenal then Arteta failed even worse at arsenal for the first 3 years.
@@Ben-gd4db its easy to say what if. Am a realist. Arteta got the trust of the owners and the fans. I was there for all that. He has cultivated the the talent and culture at the club. Look where we are and how our squad is. Right now. Iant that the point.
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@@Ben-gd4dbwhat are you on about, when we sacked emery we were bottom half of the table and hadn't won in 9 games
There's no denying Arsenal are in a better place now, but to my point, Arteta has been given that power. Plus a huge transfer budget.
Can you really argue that Emery wouldn't be doing as well without the same support?
The only clubs he's "failed" at have been those where he is just a coach
What people forget is that the reason Arteta came 8th in his first full season is because he completly overhauled the squad. Since then he came 5th then 2nd and has now topped his CL group and is sitting top of the table. Arteta is the third best manager in this league for me.
Don Unai is a good manager, and did quite well in his first season with 5th and EL final. But then, oh boy. The downwards spiral was nothing like I've ever seen before.
I still rate him as a manager due to his personality, but more for subtop clubs. He's the perfect manager for those kind of teams. I'm really glad that he's doing so well at Villa. Don't think he will stear them into CL but a proper top 6 spot should be possible.
Pep and Klopp are clear, both legends of the game. Arteta completes the podium. Yes, his first full season was bad with 8th spot. But in hindsight: he had to clear a lot. Internal issues etc. From that, it only went upwards. Emery and Howe are 4th and 5th.
Rory always tries to rewrite history
Fun question for the boys - if man city are found guilty of 115 charges does that change the Klopp vs pep debate
Emery is perfect for a club like Villa. He fits the type of project well. He’s been at nice clubs before and failed like Arsenal,
Klopp is better than pep, cant say peps better when theres 115 charges on his head
I swear this debate is the most laughably ludicrous debate if it's even one 😂😂
Pep CLEAR by miles
@@eL--RaL not really. Most sensible fans do recognize that Pep had oil money and 115 charges while Klopp had to make it work with a limited budget. There's a reason why Klopp won 12 times against Pep while Pep has 11 wins against Klopp including the Bayern/Dortmund times and don't get me even started with Bayern and Dortmund and the budget difference there.
@@jch6722Pep is in the goat convo as a manager, Klopp doesn't even get in there's a reason why.
@@eL--RaL Can't wait for City to get relegated so we don't have to read comments from deluded morons anymore
@@scottslade7468this sensasationalism about goats is giving me headaches. Like what the fuck are u on about. City and Liverpool were neck and neck for years city got what 4 pls and a cl. Liverpool got 1 pl one cl. Butttt had a lot less resources available. Not just transfers, academy staff whatever.
Eddie Howe!!!
When rival fans talk about Arteta finishing 8th twice, they never talk about the fact that it was one half season and one full, or that it was a proper rebuild, where he was completely overhauling the team and club, or that even in our winless run, his style of play and what he was trying to do on the pitch was clear. Ten Hag's teams look tactically clueless, that's the difference.
For me it's Pep, Klopp, Emery, Arteta, Howe
Emery was a disaster at Arsenal, let's not rewrite it. The football was diabolical. Allowing 32 shots away to Watford, starting 3 dms at home against huddersfield, etc. We picked up only 5 points in six matches to end the 18/19 season to give up 4th place as well. We finished in 8th in 19/20 because of Emery not Arteta. We had the third best record for the rest of the season after Arteta was hired.
Arsenal where 10th when Arteta took over
Adam is spot on about Emery.
He just gets judged on Arsenal but I think that is unfair. Arsenal fans had a completely different perspective at the time they still thought they were good. He wasn't given the time or budget that Arteta has
@@BenLeinster he signed Pepe for 80 mn.
@@BenLeinster
Emery failed at Arsenal because he’s not an elite manager and never has been. Arteta is comfortably clear.
@@bigmoist2112 I get that but he still wasn't given the money or time that Arteta has had
@@SlimClipper He has a better points total since joining Aston Villa than Arteta does after his four year project at Arsenal. He has more trophies what metric are you considering him better at?
Emery finished fifth in his first season and got Arsenal to a Europa League final... Arsenal got battered by Chelsea that day in a game they barely showed up to. In his second season Emery was on the way down and left Arsenal sitting in 8th before Arteta took over with Arsenal sitting in 10th. He finished the season 8th whilst winning an FA cup in his first 6 months in charge. He is now responsible for some of the best football Arsenal have ever seen. Arteta is a better manager than Emery.
Open question which big club would take ETH at the moment?
When it comes to Pep and Klopp it’s always an interesting debate. They come from different avenues to get to the top. I think head to head matchups Klopp does better however Pep is fantastic with tactical changes throughout a full season. I think Pep almost over thinks his tactics at time because he’s so analytical. Klopp is too stubborn and won’t change his tactics, both weaknesses have cost them at time. The caveat I would say is if Pep took the path Klopp took we wouldn’t be talking about Pep the way people talk about Klopp.
Pep is a great manager but his greatness has been inflated by the money he’s had to work with. Klopp is pound for pound better.
Not a debate pep is better
I don't think Jurgen would win as consistently as pep even with resources I think people underestimate how hard it is to continually win. 36 trophies in 15 years as a coach in the top flight will never be done again that is obscene.
I'm a Liverpool fan Klopps great at Building a sleeping Giant like BVB and Liverpool Pep wants to be the best,klopp wants to challenge the best.
@@cavanriley7373 couldn’t have put it better my friend nice unbiased view
Klopp is a genius still to compete with our super team
Everything you said is true
Emery succeeds at any club with villa in the name
De zerbi: i hate 80% of PL referees, but 100% of hosts on the club.
I am sorry but its Pep, Klop, Arteta, Emery, and Eddie Howe. Without a doubt
Adam is 100000% correct about Emery. Poor domestic record everywhere he's been at besides Valencia in like 2009 when he had David Villa and David Silva. And always fails in the Champions League, that's how you win 3 UELs in a row, by not being good enough to get out of the Champions League group stages
Not exactly true, at PSG he set the highest win record of any PSG manager ever, highest points per game record of any PSG manager ever, least goals conceded per game record of any PSG manager ever and won the league twice during his two years. The only reason they didn't extend his contract after it ran out was because they got knocked out of the CL round of 16 twice by Barcelona and Real Madrid
Pep
Klopp
Emery
Howe
De Zerbi
A big part of the manager's success is to marry their preferred system with the player's skill set and get the players to believe this union will work. Unai Emery has proven at multiple stops now, that if the players will buy what he's selling, he can turn them into a force. He has elevated Konsa, Ramsey, McGinn, Dougie L, and Watkins from career players on a mid-level PL team, to actual studs on a CL-competing powerhouse.
Not to mention Cash, Digne and Mings last season
No matter how long Arteta took, look what he has done. At times his process doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
I’ve never seen such bias hahaha
Ten Haag? Potch?
1. Pep
2. Klopp
3. Emery
4. Howe
5. Arteta
When De Zerbi and ange have had another year they will be in with a shout.
The disrespect on Eddie Howe is mental 😂
He’s 3rd behind pep & klopp. Facts
Howe is not better than Arteta or Emery. Zerbi is even better.
He can have 5/6th anything else is wild
@@chi4611 different league. Nobody could do what Howe has done for Newcastle.
He’s got us going out beating PSG, Man City, Villa, Chelsea, Arsenal etc with the likes of Dummet, Ritchie, Lascelles and Krath. Even players you all laughed at us signing (Burn and Gordon etc) now look like world beaters
Levels
Although I fully understand what an incredible achievement 3 Europe leagues in a row is impressive, what that does mean is he got a team into the champions league twice and they got dumped out in the groups back to back.
The better way to look at this is, if the manager is given the current Brentford/Fulham squad, who would finish higher.
Every Manager's pedigree is also determined by a series of circumstances.
With the same circumstances, who does better?
Arsenal fans are so deluded that they probably think Arteta is the best
I’m an arsenal fan and I don’t think he’s the best. So your wrong.
No Arsenal fan thinks that.
Exactly we all know Arteta ain't the best relax urself
Top 4 respectfully
Arteta is top 3 or 4
Nope but he’s top 3-4 depending on what you value in a manager
Emery will fall off just like di zerbi did. Arteta is a clear 3rd. The man has done wonders in his first ever managerial job.
the state of these lot. This is Arteta first job, he's got the highest ceiling
Villa has the second most goals in the league right now, tied with New Castle, and only two away from City.
Pep
Klopp
Emery
Arteta
Poch
De Zerbi
ETH What has he done to convince you he is good?
Finishing 3rd with a team that has constantly spent and is now nose diving not only in the league but his relationship with all his high profile players.
Rory completely re-writing history. Emery's final 24 league games for Arsenal, we won 5.
And our "massive streak" was full of draws and terrible 1-0
Well done Rory well done thank you for the Emery recognition 👍🏾
Non Arsenal fans don't know the mess we were in under Emery and late Wenger. Have a look at the Frankfurt game before Emery was sacked, the stands are basically empty, and Rory is trying to say he didn't do a bad job? Arteta basically saved the club from rotting and the only reason he finished 8th back to back was because he was tidying the mess Wenger, Emery, and Raul left.
They keep forgetting Arsenal wasn't the only big club with big expectations Emery managed. He also managed PSG and was nothing special. He lacks the charisma and man management at the elite level. He mid table level, Europa, FA Cup level, who will punch above his weight at a mid-table club.
This reminds me of season predictions where everybody just writes arsenal off.
You cant ever be objective if you are blinded by hate😂
The disrespect to Arteta for comparing him to poch, Ten and howe is beyond belief 😂😂
Emery, great manager and doing a brilliant job at Villa but for Rory to say he didnt do a bad job at Arsenal is hilariously wrong. Granted he had a lot going against him, but he completely bottled top 4 by playing a ridiculous team against Palace, we were a joke in the Europa final, away form was horrendous, we shipped at least 10 shots in most games. We were on relegation form when Arteta arrived and he still managed to win us the FA Cup.
Emery is a top top manager, the difference is the elite teams very rarely hand the keys over for everything to the manager. Villa have, they’ve bought fully into what emery is about and bought all the back room staff and his people to over see everything. Arsenal didn’t do that. PSG didn’t do that.
Arteta is the 3rd best coach in the PL.