I might be a weirdo, but I would absolutely love it if companies just sold the heads and handles in a kit to be hung by the end user instead of ramming the heads on with a press only to have the end user go through a bunch of extra work to rehang the thing soon after. I can hang an axe much better than their mass production presses do, and I would appreciate being able to do it right from the start instead of having to go through the work of undoing their work first (which sometimes means having to buy another handle).
We fought CT tooth and nail about this idea. 100s of hours worth of convos and meetings over the last 5 years. Deaf ears. They don’t understand that the market wants it. We tried guys.
Hey Kevin. Great Video! Not only about the CT manufacturer, but more so about the slim 15 degree bevel that chucked notehes in the axe . As for the whistling, good that you know about a classic 60's Andy Griffiths show. Probably before you were born Brings back good memories! Hey, almost everything from the classic 60 - 80's music is making a substantial comeback. Also as a history/philosophy student, one can quote Machiavelli. Good stuff, Kevin. You are human, therefore fallible!
Great vid, dude. Laughing at the duct tape thumbs. Good axes and good on ya for the giveaway. I used the Ochsenkopf Canada you gave away a couple years ago just last weekend to chunk up some limbs from the backyard.
I've been wanting a good boy's axe for my kayak and canoe fishing, camping trips. I have a few remote spots on the river that I stop at. Gathering firewood for my meals and morning coffee is always hard work. I can't friggin wait for spring!! Great video!
Physics; In extreme cold or heat, natural materials expand and/or contract. As someone who's made their living for decades using tools, I'd never use an axe in that type of cold. I have each and every one of those axes. The only axes I've had come to me with bad handles right out the box have been Swedish Axes (Gransfors Bruks, Wetterlings) and that was in moderate conditions. I got the Forest Service Edition CT to use while I was waiting for a replacement of one of my Swedes which took months to receive and a lot of back & forth with the manufacturer (and the replacement also arrived with a bad handle & temper). I beat the Council Tool FSS like it owed me money. It got to the point where I was trying to force it to fail, like I was almost mad at it for being so good for only $29. In the end, I ended up falling in love with it and it's been with me for a dozen+ years. It's the workhorse. Original handle too. Still nice and straight. Of course, I don't go chopping into frozen wood on frozen days (the time to have firewood stocked is before the winter arrives), but I didn't baby them either. I put what's known as a "working edge" on them. I have no idea what grind they were or what degrees they were, I just honed them 90% of the time and sharpened them rarely, keeping them well oiled back at the shop.
Yeah, keen edges don’t like frozen wood. Just a test. No blame here. The handles are another matter, but wooden handles come loose. Just the nature of the material.
@@KevinsDisobedience Well, that's a known entity. Metal, steel, rubber, etc..., they're all affected by heat & cold. That's why lumber companies don't operate in extreme winter. It wrecks havoc on everything (tools, machinery, men, etc...). Plus usually, at least on a competent homestead and/or campsite, all the firewood is processed before it's needed and saws are used to buck wood (not axes).
Id love to give that council tool a shot. I just got into really using axes about a year ago. I managed to cut a 1/3 of a cord last year with a cold steel trail boss. That's the only axe i have about the same size, but it is a total different pattern. Thanks for showing us this comparison. And thanks for the opportunity. 👍
Interesting comparison! Love seeing a bunch of axes side by side. Do you have any axes in your collection that stand up to ~15 flat grind in frozen wood? I don’t own any Velvicut axes but would like to see them compared to other axes in the same price range.
Nice comparison Kevin. One of my most used axes is my council tool boys axe. I must have gotten it about 10 years ago now. Shortly after getting it, I loaned it to a family member for a camping trip and it came back with a broken handle (bad run out) i rehung it and have been using it since.
Definitely a good little camp axe. As D Cook suggests, never lend your axe to a friend lol. Better to buy them their own then have them destroy yours lol.
@Kevin’s Disobedience Thankfully, the head was not damaged, and as such, I got the opportunity to learn how to hang an axe. It was this that sent me down the rabbit hole of collecting and re-hafting axes. It was an unfortunate circumstance, but one I am now thankful for since it got me started. I can't help but think of Bob Ross and call it a happy accident lol.
That's good info. I don't have an axe like that. It'd be really useful around here since I have a lot of wood to clear. I've also been having issues with my chainsaws. Thanks for the opportunity.
I would love to have that axe to use! Within the past year or so I have become interested in axes and chopping wood and have watched tons of videos about it now. Previously I did not have access to much wood to cut, but have recently gotten a hold of some. Getting the axe would be perfect timing!
@@KevinsDisobedience Thanks! Multiple large branches from a big ash tree came down in a storm so I will have the opportunity to cut and split. I am very hesitant about splitting axe cut wood though, I will definitely take it easy with that part till I build confidence.
Great vid! Dammit council! Such a tease got so much potential but always seem to have some little quirk. The FFS one looks pretty cool, keen to hear your thoughts on that 1080 steel in the future. Noticed you made a comment about the max wood size for these little guys, after some recent boys axe testing (no council unfortunately) I'd agree 100%. Good that there's some sheath options too. 👍🪓
Interesting observation on the ribs starting a stress point. I wonder if True Temper went away from their ribbed eye for that reason or just faster manufacturing process? That's unfortunate you had breakage in those 3. I've always been weary of freezing temps and axe steel. Hopefully that one makes it to the hands of someone who would use it.
I rehung the plumb boy’s axe head I won guessing your age a few months back. It’s been a dream for winter camping in northwest PA. I imagine this axe will be perfect for the same purpose. Thanks again! If you draw me here please pass along to the next guy.
Now you know the limits! Useful information for the future! I have a Plumb Boy Scout axe, the larger of the two offered, and split the handle on it… seems to me I was hacking away at standing maple in the winter when it happened. Seems to be a theme!
I believe i have one of the smaller ones. There's a crack most of the way up the side of the eye im going to tig weld eventually. Found a handle for a framing hammer or a small sledge that has a great mini-axe shape, going to fit that for it.
@@KevinsDisobedience I’ve learned a lot by busting stuff… and then fixing it. My standard attitude is that if you worry too much about busting stuff it hinders learning!
I love a good boys axe for packing in the woods. I had the older red head ct boys axe and the metal wedge didn’t fill out the eye aswell as a bit of a shelf below the head but I put it on a whiskey river 24” handle and made it awesome. Then gifted it away
24” is a decent packable handle. If I’m going to chop though, I’m of the mind now why not pack the other 4” in, but for splitting camping rounds 24” is plenty.
Another informative video sir! I've noticed that several reputable companies overbuild the handles on their axes. I figured they did this to cut down the cost of production as well as idiotproof the final product for the customer. It also gives the consumer the chance to tune up the ax to their liking. I've seen in several videos where the Russian axes have thicker as well as shorter handles. Perhaps so they can take more abuse in the field? Maybe there is something to this reasoning in making handles thicker? Anyway, stay blessed and stay warm!
i noticed on mine shaping the end of the handle to fit the eye just right took a while but was super worth it. Super snug fit, i bet they dont really have time to do that.
@@CatmanFS I agree with your statement. It seems to me that the handles are shaped and the heads re-hung for utility/expediency in the field. Stay blessed!
I’ve no doubt a thicker handle is harder to break. Unfortunately, at some point it’s a bitch to use. I wish axe companies would find a happy medium with this on all axes that aren’t meant for just splitting.
@@KevinsDisobedience you're spot on with your observation on ax handles. I feel spoiled when I use my Fiskars because the handles are thinner and identical from one ax to another. It's a shame that more domestic ax companies have let their quality control go to shit. Even the higher end brands like gransfors are having issues with the workmanship and putting out a subpar products. All we can do is improve on what we have and make the best use of what own and get to chopping and splitting! Stay blessed!
@@KevinsDisobedience hey I just wanted to let you know that there is a message for me, from you, telling me to text you back for a surprise gift. I figured it is malicious/a phising scam so others might be getting the same message as I have gotten. Stay blessed!
Awesome video! All of my councils have come loose right away too. They’re all seated with a big ledge. I’d say it’s as much the handle’s fault as the axe eye. The Swedish axes generally have a much better fit because the eye has flared lugs/ears that seats the handle nicely. Though, I think Swedish axes are a bit too light for most people. I still think these are the best budget axes in the U.S., but I could see how a beginner would find a loose head an unattractive feature. I’d probably recommend a husky over council if you know you don’t have the tools to rehang the council right away. Then again, all production axes will need fixed at some point.
Yeah, that’s why I suggest starting with a vintage head. Better to learn the basics right up front-hang, grind and sharpen. It’s something you need to know almost right away anyway.
I collect axes like most of your viewers no doubt do. I've swung a lot of boys axes, both new and vintage. There is alot of variance in cheek thickness and geometry in the Council Railsplitter boys axes. If you can find one that's fat with a very prominent high center line, that is my favorite boys axe. They are slightly heavier in the bit than the True Tempers are, but not as much as the hollow ground Craftsmans. The very slightly curved Council boys axe handles make perfect users when tuned up in my opinion.
That would be a great axe for my purposes. My wife we and I just bought a small house in a large subdivision. No trees to chop down. We just decided to build a lounge area in the backyard with a campfire pit. An old-timer in my town offered free oak logs for firewood. Since his wife passed, he doesn't want to mess with his fireplace anymore. I've got a Snow & Nealley and a Plumb hatchet I'm going to restore. This boys axe would fit in perfectly.
Funny how when you think something is a bad idea or you should know better, it usually is. I've been having a similar problem with my own edges this past winter, my dumbass decision, but they all looked like nothing compared to the chips in your Velvicut edge. At least they happened on the heel and not the toe. I honestly don't have much use for a 2 1/4 head. I own just two boys axes, one is an unmarked US made True Temper. One of the last runs Woodings Verona made for the Ames Company I believe. The other is a Woodings Verona weighing a little over 2 1/2 and I prefer that one over the other. Both are about 30 inches overall hung.
@@KevinsDisobedience Boundary pushers are what we are. In all seriousness though I know a boys axe has it's place. I prefer picking up something heavier in the 4 pound range with a little bit more punch. Maybe when I'm older or I can no longer lift or swing a heavier 3 1/2 pound plus I'll fall back on the lighter head I'll use them more often. Or if I develope a preference for them later.
What is it that defines a boys axe? Is it head weight and length of handle, or something else? 🤔 That blued head and charred handle are absolutely gorgeous
Good luck to everyone entering the giveaway! (Don’t put my name in the drawing) Going under 20 degrees on a work axe is a gamble. One which I’ve lost many times 😂 Neat vid Kevin. Frozen wood is tough on gear.
I would like a CT boy's axe as I'm in England and can't get one over here. Apparently they are the be all and end all of everyday utility, something big enough to cut with and small enough to carry. I have a few Hults Bruk and Husqvarna forest axes, they're just a touch too small for a 6'4" big bloke to swing with abandon. I'm still looking for that sweet spot of efficiency vs. portability. Lots say it's the Scandinavian forest axe but it's a bit small for me. I'd like to try the American equivalent; a little longer, a little heavier, could be perfect. Also: I'd happily pay the entirety of the shipping costs. It's enough you're giving away an axe, I don't expect you to pay twice for the privilege.
That’s cool of you, and since you’re willing to pay the difference, I’ll put you in. Like to see someone over seas give it a swing. It is loose, as you can see, so it’ll need fixing.
@@KevinsDisobedience well, I never go under 20 degrees. I use 3 different vintige versions , also one europe 1,4 kg. I abused them a lot, Winter/ summer all wood species. No problems, no matter what
Council are not sold here. Have to buy it on Amazon. Shipping as you said is crazy, so that make Council a big no for me. From what I heard Council's steel is on the soft side.
I could really use a boy’s axe, I have been looking at the council tool but I am not in a position to spend much money right now, I have a bunch of smaller fallen trees I need to deal with but the only axes I have ever got are around 4 pounds that I restored a few months back but are too big for must jobs I need to do.
For you boys who haven't figured out the no welt on the leather mask problem yet, just do this: Take a length of paracord as long as the bit and press it all the way down inside the mask to serve as a welt. And for you boys who haven't figured out the proper way to cut and section paracord....yes, you will have to burn and melt the ends. Thank me later.
Buyer beware: Council tools are great in theory. In reality you will not get a useable axe without significant QC on your end. If all the boxes are checked, then council tools boys axe are great. My experience through Amazon is 0/6 and 1/1 ebay. Out the box: 1. Straight grain, split handle Fail 2. Horizontal grain, not deal breaker. 2.75lbs total cause the handle was light and hollow. Almost weighs like pine. fail 3. Straight grain, solid handle, 26.25" (+- .5" is acceptable for rough framing. A whole 1.75" off an axe is abysmal.) Fail 4. 45 grain, half dark half light handle, minor surface cracks along the heart and new growth. 5. 45 grain, axe head pulls to the left. ALOT. 6. 90 grain, solid handle, no cracks. Actual 27".
I might be a weirdo, but I would absolutely love it if companies just sold the heads and handles in a kit to be hung by the end user instead of ramming the heads on with a press only to have the end user go through a bunch of extra work to rehang the thing soon after. I can hang an axe much better than their mass production presses do, and I would appreciate being able to do it right from the start instead of having to go through the work of undoing their work first (which sometimes means having to buy another handle).
No, we all feel that way. I think Prandi will do that.
We fought CT tooth and nail about this idea. 100s of hours worth of convos and meetings over the last 5 years. Deaf ears. They don’t understand that the market wants it. We tried guys.
Hey Kevin. Great Video! Not only about the CT manufacturer, but more so about the slim 15 degree bevel that chucked notehes in the axe . As for the whistling, good that you know about a classic 60's Andy Griffiths show. Probably before you were born Brings back good memories! Hey, almost everything from the classic 60 - 80's music is making a substantial comeback. Also as a history/philosophy student, one can quote Machiavelli. Good stuff, Kevin. You are human, therefore fallible!
Thanks, I used to watch that show on reruns late night tv
Great vid, dude. Laughing at the duct tape thumbs. Good axes and good on ya for the giveaway. I used the Ochsenkopf Canada you gave away a couple years ago just last weekend to chunk up some limbs from the backyard.
Lol Owen hates my gloves. Makes fun of me every time I wear them lol.
I've been wanting a good boy's axe for my kayak and canoe fishing, camping trips. I have a few remote spots on the river that I stop at. Gathering firewood for my meals and morning coffee is always hard work. I can't friggin wait for spring!! Great video!
This would work great for that. If you’re in the states, I’ll put you in.
@text-7382 I'm not sure if this is how to to contact you directly or not. I hung a sweet 4 pound plumb last night. Jersey pattern!
@text-7382 and yes I'm in NE Ohio
Physics; In extreme cold or heat, natural materials expand and/or contract. As someone who's made their living for decades using tools, I'd never use an axe in that type of cold. I have each and every one of those axes.
The only axes I've had come to me with bad handles right out the box have been Swedish Axes (Gransfors Bruks, Wetterlings) and that was in moderate conditions.
I got the Forest Service Edition CT to use while I was waiting for a replacement of one of my Swedes which took months to receive and a lot of back & forth with the manufacturer (and the replacement also arrived with a bad handle & temper).
I beat the Council Tool FSS like it owed me money. It got to the point where I was trying to force it to fail, like I was almost mad at it for being so good for only $29. In the end, I ended up falling in love with it and it's been with me for a dozen+ years. It's the workhorse. Original handle too. Still nice and straight.
Of course, I don't go chopping into frozen wood on frozen days (the time to have firewood stocked is before the winter arrives), but I didn't baby them either. I put what's known as a "working edge" on them. I have no idea what grind they were or what degrees they were, I just honed them 90% of the time and sharpened them rarely, keeping them well oiled back at the shop.
Yeah, keen edges don’t like frozen wood. Just a test. No blame here. The handles are another matter, but wooden handles come loose. Just the nature of the material.
@@KevinsDisobedience Well, that's a known entity. Metal, steel, rubber, etc..., they're all affected by heat & cold.
That's why lumber companies don't operate in extreme winter. It wrecks havoc on everything (tools, machinery, men, etc...).
Plus usually, at least on a competent homestead and/or campsite, all the firewood is processed before it's needed and saws are used to buck wood (not axes).
Id love to give that council tool a shot. I just got into really using axes about a year ago. I managed to cut a 1/3 of a cord last year with a cold steel trail boss. That's the only axe i have about the same size, but it is a total different pattern. Thanks for showing us this comparison. And thanks for the opportunity. 👍
I’ll definitely put you in, assuming you’re in the states. This is a good little chopping axe.
@Kevin’s Disobedience Im chopping oak ,hickory and popular right here in S.C. thanks.
Interesting comparison! Love seeing a bunch of axes side by side.
Do you have any axes in your collection that stand up to ~15 flat grind in frozen wood? I don’t own any Velvicut axes but would like to see them compared to other axes in the same price range.
No, nothing 15 will stand up to any hardwood-frozen or not. Just proof once again to shut a few guys up
Nice comparison Kevin. One of my most used axes is my council tool boys axe. I must have gotten it about 10 years ago now. Shortly after getting it, I loaned it to a family member for a camping trip and it came back with a broken handle (bad run out) i rehung it and have been using it since.
Definitely a good little camp axe. As D Cook suggests, never lend your axe to a friend lol. Better to buy them their own then have them destroy yours lol.
@Kevin’s Disobedience Thankfully, the head was not damaged, and as such, I got the opportunity to learn how to hang an axe. It was this that sent me down the rabbit hole of collecting and re-hafting axes. It was an unfortunate circumstance, but one I am now thankful for since it got me started. I can't help but think of Bob Ross and call it a happy accident lol.
That's good info. I don't have an axe like that. It'd be really useful around here since I have a lot of wood to clear. I've also been having issues with my chainsaws. Thanks for the opportunity.
All chainsaw always have issues lol. I’ll put you in
I would love to have that axe to use! Within the past year or so I have become interested in axes and chopping wood and have watched tons of videos about it now. Previously I did not have access to much wood to cut, but have recently gotten a hold of some. Getting the axe would be perfect timing!
I’ll put you in then. This is more a chopping axe than a splitter, but it will split.
@@KevinsDisobedience Thanks! Multiple large branches from a big ash tree came down in a storm so I will have the opportunity to cut and split. I am very hesitant about splitting axe cut wood though, I will definitely take it easy with that part till I build confidence.
Great vid! Dammit council! Such a tease got so much potential but always seem to have some little quirk. The FFS one looks pretty cool, keen to hear your thoughts on that 1080 steel in the future. Noticed you made a comment about the max wood size for these little guys, after some recent boys axe testing (no council unfortunately) I'd agree 100%. Good that there's some sheath options too. 👍🪓
I’ll let you know. Yeah, 5-6” is basically the limit; otherwise, I’d grab something heavier with a wider cutting edge.
I'm an young man and I love to use and collect axes I'm from Kentucky so I have plenty to cut lol but I never had one thank you
Nice comparison. Love that size axe!
Me too. I’m partial to them.
Interesting observation on the ribs starting a stress point. I wonder if True Temper went away from their ribbed eye for that reason or just faster manufacturing process?
That's unfortunate you had breakage in those 3. I've always been weary of freezing temps and axe steel. Hopefully that one makes it to the hands of someone who would use it.
I see no advantage to them anyway. Wish they weren’t in there. I might even grind them out.
Nice little ax to givaway, good luck folks. I hope it goes to someone who will really use it.
I rehung the plumb boy’s axe head I won guessing your age a few months back. It’s been a dream for winter camping in northwest PA. I imagine this axe will be perfect for the same purpose. Thanks again! If you draw me here please pass along to the next guy.
Glad to hear that got hung and used 👍
Now you know the limits! Useful information for the future!
I have a Plumb Boy Scout axe, the larger of the two offered, and split the handle on it… seems to me I was hacking away at standing maple in the winter when it happened. Seems to be a theme!
I believe i have one of the smaller ones. There's a crack most of the way up the side of the eye im going to tig weld eventually. Found a handle for a framing hammer or a small sledge that has a great mini-axe shape, going to fit that for it.
Worth the damage to find the limits for yourself, isn’t it…. Keep working towards first hand knowledge
@@KevinsDisobedience I’ve learned a lot by busting stuff… and then fixing it. My standard attitude is that if you worry too much about busting stuff it hinders learning!
I love a good boys axe for packing in the woods. I had the older red head ct boys axe and the metal wedge didn’t fill out the eye aswell as a bit of a shelf below the head but I put it on a whiskey river 24” handle and made it awesome. Then gifted it away
24” is a decent packable handle. If I’m going to chop though, I’m of the mind now why not pack the other 4” in, but for splitting camping rounds 24” is plenty.
I know that tune! Arrrgh! Now it's stuck in my head
Another informative video sir! I've noticed that several reputable companies overbuild the handles on their axes. I figured they did this to cut down the cost of production as well as idiotproof the final product for the customer. It also gives the consumer the chance to tune up the ax to their liking. I've seen in several videos where the Russian axes have thicker as well as shorter handles. Perhaps so they can take more abuse in the field? Maybe there is something to this reasoning in making handles thicker? Anyway, stay blessed and stay warm!
i noticed on mine shaping the end of the handle to fit the eye just right took a while but was super worth it. Super snug fit, i bet they dont really have time to do that.
@@CatmanFS I agree with your statement. It seems to me that the handles are shaped and the heads re-hung for utility/expediency in the field. Stay blessed!
I’ve no doubt a thicker handle is harder to break. Unfortunately, at some point it’s a bitch to use. I wish axe companies would find a happy medium with this on all axes that aren’t meant for just splitting.
@@KevinsDisobedience you're spot on with your observation on ax handles. I feel spoiled when I use my Fiskars because the handles are thinner and identical from one ax to another. It's a shame that more domestic ax companies have let their quality control go to shit. Even the higher end brands like gransfors are having issues with the workmanship and putting out a subpar products. All we can do is improve on what we have and make the best use of what own and get to chopping and splitting! Stay blessed!
@@KevinsDisobedience hey I just wanted to let you know that there is a message for me, from you, telling me to text you back for a surprise gift. I figured it is malicious/a phising scam so others might be getting the same message as I have gotten. Stay blessed!
Awesome video! All of my councils have come loose right away too. They’re all seated with a big ledge. I’d say it’s as much the handle’s fault as the axe eye. The Swedish axes generally have a much better fit because the eye has flared lugs/ears that seats the handle nicely. Though, I think Swedish axes are a bit too light for most people. I still think these are the best budget axes in the U.S., but I could see how a beginner would find a loose head an unattractive feature. I’d probably recommend a husky over council if you know you don’t have the tools to rehang the council right away. Then again, all production axes will need fixed at some point.
Yeah, that’s why I suggest starting with a vintage head. Better to learn the basics right up front-hang, grind and sharpen. It’s something you need to know almost right away anyway.
I collect axes like most of your viewers no doubt do. I've swung a lot of boys axes, both new and vintage. There is alot of variance in cheek thickness and geometry in the Council Railsplitter boys axes. If you can find one that's fat with a very prominent high center line, that is my favorite boys axe. They are slightly heavier in the bit than the True Tempers are, but not as much as the hollow ground Craftsmans. The very slightly curved Council boys axe handles make perfect users when tuned up in my opinion.
I’ve got one of those. It’s pretty much flat. But they still make decent choppers.
@text-7382 Dang bro, it will certainly take some time for you to adjust to that LA weather LOL.
That would be a great axe for my purposes. My wife we and I just bought a small house in a large subdivision. No trees to chop down. We just decided to build a lounge area in the backyard with a campfire pit. An old-timer in my town offered free oak logs for firewood. Since his wife passed, he doesn't want to mess with his fireplace anymore. I've got a Snow & Nealley and a Plumb hatchet I'm going to restore. This boys axe would fit in perfectly.
These are really meant for chopping, but they will split. I’ll put you in.
Funny how when you think something is a bad idea or you should know better, it usually is. I've been having a similar problem with my own edges this past winter, my dumbass decision, but they all looked like nothing compared to the chips in your Velvicut edge. At least they happened on the heel and not the toe.
I honestly don't have much use for a 2 1/4 head. I own just two boys axes, one is an unmarked US made True Temper. One of the last runs Woodings Verona made for the Ames Company I believe. The other is a Woodings Verona weighing a little over 2 1/2 and I prefer that one over the other. Both are about 30 inches overall hung.
Sounds too good to be true usually is, eh…
@@KevinsDisobedience Boundary pushers are what we are.
In all seriousness though I know a boys axe has it's place. I prefer picking up something heavier in the 4 pound range with a little bit more punch. Maybe when I'm older or I can no longer lift or swing a heavier 3 1/2 pound plus I'll fall back on the lighter head I'll use them more often. Or if I develope a preference for them later.
Andy Griffith show theme song?
Ding, ding, ding 🛎️
What is it that defines a boys axe? Is it head weight and length of handle, or something else? 🤔 That blued head and charred handle are absolutely gorgeous
I bought a CT utlity boys axe. Broke the handle chopping on some hickory. The supplier sent me a new CT handle which used. Its great now.
That was cool of them.
Good luck to everyone entering the giveaway! (Don’t put my name in the drawing)
Going under 20 degrees on a work axe is a gamble. One which I’ve lost many times 😂
Neat vid Kevin. Frozen wood is tough on gear.
Gotta have a substantial secondary under twenty is my experience.
I have only one axe and would love an axe this size. I have a real interest in trying a Council !!!
Thanks for commenting. What’s your other axe?
I bought 3 ct axes and the handles all came loose after about 2 swings. Get a Cold Steel Trail Boss. Made in Taiwan but infinitely better than ct.
I have one. Showed it on the channel. Was loose even before I swung it, but they are great little axes.
I would like a CT boy's axe as I'm in England and can't get one over here. Apparently they are the be all and end all of everyday utility, something big enough to cut with and small enough to carry. I have a few Hults Bruk and Husqvarna forest axes, they're just a touch too small for a 6'4" big bloke to swing with abandon. I'm still looking for that sweet spot of efficiency vs. portability. Lots say it's the Scandinavian forest axe but it's a bit small for me. I'd like to try the American equivalent; a little longer, a little heavier, could be perfect.
Also: I'd happily pay the entirety of the shipping costs. It's enough you're giving away an axe, I don't expect you to pay twice for the privilege.
That’s cool of you, and since you’re willing to pay the difference, I’ll put you in. Like to see someone over seas give it a swing. It is loose, as you can see, so it’ll need fixing.
Great video, thank you. I will stick with my ochsenkopf iltis canada boys axes. They never let me down
How do you like it? I bought two, one Europa and one Canada, and both failed at just sub 20.
@@KevinsDisobedience well, I never go under 20 degrees. I use 3 different vintige versions , also one europe 1,4 kg. I abused them a lot, Winter/ summer all wood species. No problems, no matter what
Council are not sold here. Have to buy it on Amazon. Shipping as you said is crazy, so that make Council a big no for me. From what I heard Council's steel is on the soft side.
It’s softer than GB or HB but I’ve never had an issue with it on a reasonable grind
I could really use a boy’s axe, I have been looking at the council tool but I am not in a position to spend much money right now, I have a bunch of smaller fallen trees I need to deal with but the only axes I have ever got are around 4 pounds that I restored a few months back but are too big for must jobs I need to do.
I’ll put you in. Just keep an eye out for the next video drop and be sure you’re subscribed so you get counted. Thanks
Sacrificing axes for the cause. Good luck to the winner !
For you boys who haven't figured out the no welt on the leather mask problem yet, just do this: Take a length of paracord as long as the bit and press it all the way down inside the mask to serve as a welt. And for you boys who haven't figured out the proper way to cut and section paracord....yes, you will have to burn and melt the ends. Thank me later.
Good idea. No welts aren’t a big deal. Could do without the condescension, though, thanks.
Steel and wood get brittle in extreme cold weather.
Thanks for doing this, but DON"T GIVE ONE TO ME! I'm in the process of letting some go.
lol same here
Getting older with health problems and can't use a full size axe anymore
A boys size would be perfect for me now
I can definitely relate lol. Although I have many miles before I can sleep, I feel ya. I’ll put ya in.
Would love a boys axe always wanted one I heat with wood and a good axe is always good to warm the family 👪
It’s a decent little chopper. I wouldn’t recommend it as a splitter at all.
I’ll stick to Gransfors and Hults Bruk.
Nice vid though
Don’t overlook this unsung hero. Slightly heavier heels with a slightly longer handle. And a lot cheaper
@@KevinsDisobedienceAgreed!
Still hate those damn gloves 😅😂😂😂
Hehehe
You’d be begging for them if it was sub zero and you had work to do lol
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Great Video !!!
I don't have a Boys axe. Never had one. Need to get one. Would gladly pay for shipping .
Would be appreciated and well used !!
I’ll put you in then. Cheers
@@KevinsDisobedience Thank You !
Buyer beware: Council tools are great in theory. In reality you will not get a useable axe without significant QC on your end.
If all the boxes are checked, then council tools boys axe are great. My experience through Amazon is 0/6 and 1/1 ebay. Out the box:
1. Straight grain, split handle Fail
2. Horizontal grain, not deal breaker. 2.75lbs total cause the handle was light and hollow. Almost weighs like pine. fail
3. Straight grain, solid handle, 26.25" (+- .5" is acceptable for rough framing. A whole 1.75" off an axe is abysmal.) Fail
4. 45 grain, half dark half light handle, minor surface cracks along the heart and new growth.
5. 45 grain, axe head pulls to the left. ALOT.
6. 90 grain, solid handle, no cracks. Actual 27".
Thanks, lol