$40 Council Tools Boys Axe vs $100 Hult Bruks Kalix Felling axe. Before and after Inflation!!!

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  • čas přidán 8. 02. 2024
  • This comparison video between the Made in USA Council Tool vs the Swedish Made Kalix has been 5 and a half years in the making. In the before inflation times these axes cost betwen 40 and 100 bucks. Now they will both set you back 70-140. The video goes over the differences, talks about various axe patterns, the parts of the axe, and more. Also appearing in the video is the Estwing Fireside Friend, and the Fiskars x27. You can see the old product listings below. Many are affiliate links and support the channel, if you purchase through them.
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  • @jerrywarnock840
    @jerrywarnock840 Před měsícem +1

    I do so enjoy your dry sardonic humor. It amazes me how many people just do not get your videos and take them way too seriously. I just watched one of your videos from 5 years ago about the Tempsky Ranger. You have not changed your video style at all. I love it.

  • @NoNotThatPaul
    @NoNotThatPaul Před 4 měsíci +19

    I love your video style, any chump can watch Gideon or whatever, but it's not fun. You make it fun. Thank you

  • @forrestswain543
    @forrestswain543 Před 4 měsíci +24

    The best axe to use is one that doesn't belong to you 😎

    • @KMV007
      @KMV007 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Lol. Especially when you miss and break the handle 😂

  • @gregtomamichel973
    @gregtomamichel973 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Good to see the safety squint in use.

  • @starkparker16
    @starkparker16 Před 4 měsíci +7

    This guy ain't losing no eye one day. This guy is advanced AF.

  • @kurts64
    @kurts64 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Awesome to see Advanced Knife Bro review some axes. As an axe guy, these are both good workin-mans axes, though more cutters than splitters. Eucalyptus is tough stuff.
    As always, great vid 🪓🪓👍🇦🇺

  • @fredeschen3783
    @fredeschen3783 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Council Tool uses the best steel and the Velvicut is upgraded and they tell you what it is, but I don’t remember. I have two and they are holding up great and nice handles and grain too.
    I never thought of safety glasses for chopping wood. The irony that I would learn of this on your fine channel is not lost.🍻
    I keep a Fisker splitting ax in the woodshed too.

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Listen people have been telling me this for years anything I chop something. Safety glasses fog up very quickly for me because of sweat and I cannot see out of them.

    • @gordonmacdowell8117
      @gordonmacdowell8117 Před 3 měsíci +1

      People freak out on the internet if you film yourself using an axe without safety glasses; especially if they've never used an axe before. If you're using an axe properly, it's the people standing nearby that need to wear safety glasses, because that's where all the wood chips are flying. If you're not using it properly you might need safety glasses, but otherwise you should be just fine. Where I make an exception is with sledge and wedge, because while the hammer is slowly deforming the top of the wedge, the iron flakes will fly off at unpredictable angles and I've been cut below that eye that way.

    • @fredeschen3783
      @fredeschen3783 Před 3 měsíci

      @@gordonmacdowell8117 when metal tools start to mushroom out hit them with a file or grinder.

  • @riverrunner23
    @riverrunner23 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Axes, hatchets and mauls, Oh My! These are some of my favorite things, having multiple Fiskars, 3 Hult Bruks, a Cold Steel Trail Boss and some miscellaneous others. I had a True Temper Vulcan double bit that I picked up at a garage sale. Totally rusted, with a warped, aged handle. Bathed it in distilled white vinegar, wiped down and gave a super fine steel wool scrubbing and bought a white hickory handle to replace the old one. Added a double bit leather sheath, and voila, a pretty good looking restoration. Thanks for the vid, and enjoy.

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism Před 3 měsíci +1

      There is almost nothing better than bringing out the old Hilti! 🥰
      (German slang for sledgehammer. It's a brand, but I don't think they make sledgehammers anymore.)

  • @danielwendell542
    @danielwendell542 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'va got an Allagash Cruiser, Maine axe pattern made in Maine which I adore for farm tasks and firewood tasks. Splitting is with a fiskars maul, which has put in plenty of work. And my ESSE camp hatchet is great for kindling and carving!

  • @scdub
    @scdub Před 3 měsíci +2

    I got a Council Velvicut Boys Axe in 5160 one year ago and I felled in love with it. 😸❤
    I’ve used it primarily to buck green trees that have fallen across roads and trails, and for that purpose it works amazingly after some thinning behind the edge.
    It came with a leather sheath which makes it extremely Insta, but alas I’ve only posted about it on Bladeforums…
    How are you liking CA? I’m in Santa Cruz County…

  • @dlrmon1
    @dlrmon1 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The last axe/hatchet I purchased was after watching Advanced Knife Bro’s Gransfors Bruk Wildlife Hatchet review years ago. I happened to find one on a German site for 99 bucks w- free shipping, and it was back to being a wannabe Knife Bro since...lol

  • @nphipps2
    @nphipps2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    A+ edged tool content.

  • @digdugdat2847
    @digdugdat2847 Před 3 měsíci +4

    For $40 I bought a similar axe with 3 flathead shovels, 4 hard rakes, 1 leaf rake and 16 flathead screwdrivers and a tool box full of Taiwanese sockets off of Marketplace from an itchy and energetic fella.

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Guy just had a buncha extra tools laying around!

    • @digdugdat2847
      @digdugdat2847 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@AdvancedKnifeBro yea, someone did

    • @scdub
      @scdub Před 3 měsíci +2

      You clearly know how to haggle.

  • @_brianm
    @_brianm Před 4 měsíci +4

    “Fellers!” 👏🏻💯

  • @just9911
    @just9911 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I see AKB as more of a “felling a tree with det cord” kinda guy than an axe bro.

  • @rockymountainlockpicker9606
    @rockymountainlockpicker9606 Před 2 měsíci

    I’ve had a council tool velvicut double bitted saddle axe for 5/6 years. Have used it regularly in the summer/fall out camping and hunting. It chops and splits better than other hatchet I’ve had. Probably bcuz of the heavier double bit. Has a good solid handle and the head has remained tight. It does require a bit of wax or oil and attention to the weather, or it will begin to rust fast. I did a forced patina on mine so that has kept it looking nice.

  • @redryder1146
    @redryder1146 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I absolutely love your videos. Keep up the great work !!

  • @betterarmed
    @betterarmed Před 4 měsíci +2

    Finally!
    Good job coming back to it lol

  • @MikeJones-wp2mw
    @MikeJones-wp2mw Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have that boys axe, it's a great axe. I chop wood with it but splitting anything too big is gonna break it. Just takes too much speed to get it done with a head that light. But I have bigger axes for that. It's my favorite axe, I changed the angle on it, made it a bit sharper than they intended, but not much.

  • @johnp.5882
    @johnp.5882 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I use Zima to sport wood, and the Swedish axe to split hairs around the campfire 🤷‍♂️

  • @datafoxy
    @datafoxy Před 3 měsíci +1

    So much axe knowledge. I do not think I would get one but good to know a bit about what I should look for.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před měsícem

    My 4# True Temper that I have had for fifty years is a red Dayton. My 2.5# True Temper Boys axe is also a red Dayton. I have had it for about forty years. I restored both of them about ten years ago. I restored their red color and hung new hickory handles in them. The 4# DAYTON got a 31.5” handle and the Boys axe got a 27.5” hickory handle both are does leg handles. Both cut well.

  • @calebmorris6687
    @calebmorris6687 Před 2 měsíci

    I lean toward the Estwing camp axes myself tbh; they are a nice solid middling sized axe.

  • @Bogart995
    @Bogart995 Před 3 měsíci

    Worth the wait.

  • @ajaxtelamonian5134
    @ajaxtelamonian5134 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Damn the handle on the Kalix is massive i miss the old red painted heads. The shape of the heads i feel was better too.

    • @Mcdoogle221
      @Mcdoogle221 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I like Councils older style with the painted heads too. I've gotten some with the sport utility finish with horrible grinds

    • @ajaxtelamonian5134
      @ajaxtelamonian5134 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Mcdoogle221 Yeah I mean there is the whole grind it yourself thing but the painted ones were cheaper and arrived certainly useable. And the grey smudgy finish just looks kinda ugly. Respectfully.

  • @jamberrycloud
    @jamberrycloud Před měsícem

    I miss the old yard 😢.

  • @Leftyotism
    @Leftyotism Před 3 měsíci

    Whoah vintage footage!

  • @TRSwanVideos
    @TRSwanVideos Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video. I bought myself a Fiskars X15 for my outdoor adventures. I bought my son a Gransfor Bruks Small Forest Axe for his 18th Birthday. Hopefully he will have it forever and recall our days afield together after I'm gone. Ive used both and I have to say that the Gransfor Bruks is better than my X15. Is it a $100 better? NO. As far as that monster CA wood you have there. After I turned 40 I bought a log splitter for when I do bulk. For a dozen or so logs I'll still swing an axe or a maul. Remember, wood heats the body twice!

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci

      Fiskars x series- nothing wrong- but it has too modern of a feel. It performs well though. It doesn’t look quite like a classic tool.

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My DREAM "boys" axe would be the 2.25-3lb head on a 28" STRAIGHT handle. As big of a poll as would balance well.
    Small felling axe, limbing axe, light duty splitter, and most importantly a wedge banger for chainsaw felling.

  • @craigrj232323
    @craigrj232323 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lodgepole, ceder, black or white oak. Be careful with madrone or manzanita, they burn so hot you can catch your house on fire.

  • @scootertribeg1708
    @scootertribeg1708 Před 3 měsíci +2

    advanced cults bruh (your new axe brand name)

  • @JCOwens-zq6fd
    @JCOwens-zq6fd Před 3 měsíci +1

    Yeah i moved out to California some years ago & the trees are a whole lot bigger & the wood is more difficult to split for sure.

  • @Keith_the_knife_freak
    @Keith_the_knife_freak Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for sharing.. 👍👍👍

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před měsícem

    The reason heads are painted is so you can find them in the leaves after you finish cutting down the tree with your chainsaw. The patter of my chainsaws is Stihl.😮

  • @danygodbout979
    @danygodbout979 Před 3 měsíci +1

    ive been watching your vids for some years...iam semi befoore its to deep to not black out and i want to say these are awsome vids...your old style on the log is quite arrousing xxx

  • @snakehead5444
    @snakehead5444 Před 3 měsíci +1

    A 28 inch double bit cruiser axe is a man’s “felling axe” of this genre

  • @gambitm7480
    @gambitm7480 Před 3 měsíci +1

    👍 good stuff

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Před 4 měsíci +2

    That's the thing about quality with the appropriate price😂

  • @nandayane
    @nandayane Před 3 měsíci +1

    I still want a purple stump lifter! Also been lookin at these axes, I live in california so fiskars it is!

  • @brandensutton2324
    @brandensutton2324 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Paul Bunyan Jr over here

  • @GliderBane
    @GliderBane Před 3 měsíci +2

    No where near as good as your shovel comparison video. We need more tactical gardening videos.

  • @heynsenene
    @heynsenene Před 3 měsíci

    Pro tip: When people replace the work 'ask' with 'axe', dont correct them. Just let them ask you the damn question. You can still silently judge them and nobody has to know. Were all friends here...just trying to get along.

  • @Simon-talks
    @Simon-talks Před 4 měsíci +6

    Advanced axe bro?

  • @chaddamron3877
    @chaddamron3877 Před 2 měsíci

    Solid 🎉

  • @Leftyotism
    @Leftyotism Před 3 měsíci +1

    Okay, you have asked for it:
    The history of the rafting axe dates back to ancient times when early civilizations relied on waterways for transportation and trade. As human societies developed, the need for specialized tools for water-based activities like rafting became apparent. Rafting axes were crafted to be lightweight and versatile, capable of assisting in tasks such as cutting ropes, clearing obstacles, and ensuring safety while navigating rivers and water bodies. Over time, advancements in materials and design have led to the development of modern rafting axes that are essential tools for outdoor enthusiasts and professionals engaging in water-based adventures.

    • @OnceUponAnotherTime
      @OnceUponAnotherTime Před měsícem

      Or, you could Google it, and learn that "rafting" axes with the typical rafting ax head profile have a hardened poll used in the lumber industry for hammering in the staples that hold the rafted logs together as they move them over water.

  • @christamu2
    @christamu2 Před 4 měsíci +4

    None of these remotely compare to the main blade on my Stump Lifter for pure chopping power but they'll do in a pinch.

  • @daveburklund2295
    @daveburklund2295 Před 4 měsíci +2

    How do these axes compare for tree chopping to that Cold Steel sword?

  • @FordThunderCougarFalconBird
    @FordThunderCougarFalconBird Před 3 měsíci

    HOW I IMAGINE THE SCENE THE
    NIGHT BEFORE IN THE AKB HOUSEHOLD
    Advanced Knife Bro: “I’m bored”
    Advanced Knife Wife: “Well, you could finish up that axe video, that you’ve been working on for like the last FIVE YEARS.
    Advanced Knife Bro: “Oh, Allriiiiiight”
    Advanced Knife Bro walks off into his office (when I say office, what I mean is garage)He rummages under some rusty paint cans. Pulls out an old beta tape, and softly blows the dust off. A moth flies off on gossamer wings into the darkened recesses of his…. Err office. He then turns his back, walks over to his computer. All the while quietly muttering to himself.
    Advanced Knife Bro: “I’ll show her. Make this the best video she’s ever seen. All I wanted was a little sex.

  • @kailashblades
    @kailashblades Před 3 měsíci +2

    Be kind to yourself- your video style hasn't completely stayed the same over the last 10 years. You use a nicer camera now :)

  • @BangkokMark
    @BangkokMark Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the vid, but I only use FBG handles on my axe

  • @manichounds
    @manichounds Před 3 měsíci +1

    Kicks axe….you know, them carving axes could be some content. Left handed, right handed, 300 bucks plus….similar old sounding names.

  • @kd0407
    @kd0407 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Did I like this slight departure from your usual content? You bet your axe I did!
    (Ok I'm sorry, but I kind of felt like I had to...)

  • @theimperialbeachbum1304
    @theimperialbeachbum1304 Před 3 měsíci +1

    But can it cut through meatloaf effectively???

  • @ronsalerno2058
    @ronsalerno2058 Před 3 měsíci

    Well, if you'd like to test the (probably identical) felling efficacy of each of these two axes without actually felling a tree, you could have layed the logs down on their sides.

  • @zeshwonsos
    @zeshwonsos Před 4 měsíci +1

    yay!

  • @ozzlayer
    @ozzlayer Před 3 měsíci

    You need a black metal song in the background on this one.

  • @Doorgunner50
    @Doorgunner50 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Husqvarna 26" forest axe is the best axe in this size range. Sorry, had to say it. I have the council tool one also. Its good and worth every penny but the Husqvarna is awesome. Used to only be $79 but probably a lot more now that the us dollar is loosing value. Buy your stuff now before it loses even more!

  • @adamjames1375
    @adamjames1375 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Only thing cooler than slicy stuff is choppin' stuff.

  • @Steve_G88
    @Steve_G88 Před 3 měsíci

    congrats on selling out your knife!

  • @bobbannon2701
    @bobbannon2701 Před 4 měsíci +1

    But do you still have that Lynn Thompson hat?

  • @WhispyWoods.
    @WhispyWoods. Před 3 měsíci +3

    Fellers 😆🤣😂😄

  • @mikenormandy9250
    @mikenormandy9250 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Most American axe companies from the last couple of centuries, all folded into each other, so basically become one that’s now overseas or in Mexico you had plumb, Collins, American tool and hoe, company. Yeah, probably keen Kutter you had Norland, which was bought by mann with two ends, they all eventually folded into each other just like all the regular hand, tool companies like Milwaukee, rigid Ryobi and heart are owned by TTI in China. It seems counsel Tools is the only mass producer of Axes in America still unless you want to count the small forges which I really know where one guy is making Swedish or German patterns putting a sick handle on it and charging you $1200 in the waitlist to six years to have to make you an ass And then there’s also the Amish people up in Maine that got the patents for snow & neally, they still make them

  • @johnbowers1218
    @johnbowers1218 Před měsícem

    I miss the bamboo and stump and watching you sweat in VA humidity.

  • @theTrueOverlord
    @theTrueOverlord Před 2 měsíci

    What cracks me up is the Swedish axes are all made from recycled steel and yet they want premium prices, how ever Husqvarna is made of the same steel and in the same forges for a third to half the price.

  • @chaddamron3877
    @chaddamron3877 Před 2 měsíci

    🍺🍺💥❤️ m
    Killin it

  • @yankee2yankee216
    @yankee2yankee216 Před 3 měsíci

    Where can I get a Hults Bruk felling axe for $100?

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci

      No where any more

    • @jonwivccc7926
      @jonwivccc7926 Před 3 měsíci

      you don’t need one bro buy a cheap axe and get to work .. trust me my bruk is somewhere lost in my tool room because you never use it .. a cheap axe will serve you better not worrying about rocks . gritty wood etc just work and go back to your life

  • @Sudz1911
    @Sudz1911 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I didnt know they still made the "redhead" axes

  • @kevinschmith9379
    @kevinschmith9379 Před 3 měsíci

    Call steals Trail. Ask what is called a trail boss is about the same thing to that’s pretty cheap.

  • @Mcdoogle221
    @Mcdoogle221 Před 3 měsíci

    Those Council Tool axes have doubled in price

  • @gordonmacdowell8117
    @gordonmacdowell8117 Před 3 měsíci

    Splitting mauls are nice, but have you thought about using a sledgehammer and wedges.... No, really. They work great.

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I have two estwing wedges and a full sledge and a 3lb hand sledge. My favorite part is hitting them dead on, after getting them started and they bounce back out. The wedges do not improve the splitting on this wood at all. If they don’t bounce out they get lodged too far down into the log after pounding them a bunch I need the second to be able to remove the first. So no they do not improve the splitting.

    • @gordonmacdowell8117
      @gordonmacdowell8117 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AdvancedKnifeBrothe only time I really use the sledge and wedge is on the more miserable monster rounds, with tons of knots, when even the splitting maul gets stuck. It's almost relaxing to use an axe on small rounds or easier to split wood, after a childhood of hacking at horrible pieces of wood I couldn't get my arms around as an adult.
      The biggest problem with people using axes, besides trying to chop their feet off, is they use it like a club. If you don't do that little flipping motion at the end of your swing the wood doesn't break apart as well.

    • @gordonmacdowell8117
      @gordonmacdowell8117 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AdvancedKnifeBro I'm not 100% sold on that Estwing wedge design. It's practically built to fly back at you, the way some splitting mauls with dogs on the side do. It can be hard to find a wedge these days that's not either tiny or made of plastic.

  • @unknownriderinbound
    @unknownriderinbound Před 3 měsíci +1

    You're doing it wrong. I don't know the right way to do it, but I watch the interwebs so I'm literally qualified to critique.

  • @LazyJones
    @LazyJones Před 4 měsíci

    Comment for engagement

  • @timclements2473
    @timclements2473 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Most tools worth owning are sharpened by the user not the factory.

  • @craigrj232323
    @craigrj232323 Před 3 měsíci

    There you are, miss your face. Wish you did more videos, but when you pop up, I watch. Kinda like the neighbor down the street. The one that's super nosey. There he goes again, bet he's got the deadlock on him today. Sure wish he'd open a letter with it.

    • @scdub
      @scdub Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hard to pull off creepy/funny. 👍

    • @craigrj232323
      @craigrj232323 Před 3 měsíci

      @@scdub it really is. I mainly watch his reviews for his off the cuff comments. He'd be an awesome stand up comedian. I just try to give it back once in a while to give him a good laugh. It's super hard to find the right line without plowing right through it.

  • @Swearengen1980
    @Swearengen1980 Před 3 měsíci

    It's cute watching CZcams videos where they chop wood and it just explodes apart. Never once have I seen a channel come down south and try to split southern oak with an axe.

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci

      My theory is… when people have rarely chopped wood, or only chop easily choppable wood- they would be inclined to comment how the person doing the chopping isn’t doing it correctly. I have quite a bit of footage of the stuff out here not wanting to come apart. I give up and come back to it later. It’s extremely frustrating.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AdvancedKnifeBro Did I say you weren't doing it correctly? Nope. Commented on how in videos I see, it's always a soft wood. Even if it's a soft "hard" wood. I've chopped more cords than I can count, usually with a wedge and sledge, because that's the only thing that works on most of the oak down here before having to just move on to a log splitter. It really was a commentary on the different types of wood from up north to the south. Watch a survival show and see a guy fell a tree and then carry the entire tree on their shoulder. That shit ain't happening here. But no, I'm obviously not going to search your entire catalog to see if you've used an actual hard wood in the past.

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci

      I was not implying that you were saying that. I don’t have a ton of axe videos. I think you were saying the same thing I was in this video. In fact a lot of the wood out here is extremely hard as well. I’ve used these axes sparingly since I’ve moved since they aren’t up to the job- hence much of this footage is old. The wood I’m currently chopping with the fiskars completely outclasses these axes. In fact the fiskars struggles sometimes as well.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AdvancedKnifeBro Yeah I completely misread that LOL. I think I'm way too use to the everything being a negative reply/argument that I automatically read it that way. 🤦‍♂.

    • @AdvancedKnifeBro
      @AdvancedKnifeBro  Před 3 měsíci

      @@Swearengen1980No problem at all. There's a lot of wood out there that really is best with hydraulic splitters. I wish I could put these more to use nowadays, but the wood I heat with is too tough.

  • @onionhead5780
    @onionhead5780 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Less than 3 minutes in and a well deserved thumbs up. Strictly due to that ninja axe twirling action. 🥷

  • @christophwilhelm6431
    @christophwilhelm6431 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I want to axe you... shouldn't you have used these instead of a cheap sword that broke in half? Maybe?

  • @clandestinetactical
    @clandestinetactical Před 3 měsíci +2

    “ That’s foolish.. you use the one , right tool 🪓 “
    - Anton Chigurh

  • @Leftyotism
    @Leftyotism Před 3 měsíci

    OMG HERESY!!!

  • @lyndonmarquis414
    @lyndonmarquis414 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Advanced axe bro?

    • @lyndonmarquis414
      @lyndonmarquis414 Před 3 měsíci

      Damn it, someone got there first - well played, that bro.