Should You Pay For Home Assistant Cloud?
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- This video looks at the main benefits of the Home Assistant Cloud add-on (often referred to as Nabu Casa), how you might get the same features for free, and whether or not it’s still worth taking out a paid subscription.
DOCUMENTATION LINKS
Emulated Hue (Alexa): www.home-assistant.io/integra...
Node Red + Alexa: alexa-node-red.bm.hardill.me....
Alexa Skill: www.home-assistant.io/integra...
Google Assistant: www.home-assistant.io/integra...
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:16 Remote Access
1:15 DIY Remote Access
3:29 Third-Party Voice Assistants
4:31 DIY Voice Assistants
6:58 Is HA Cloud Worth Paying for?
7:55 Wrapping Up - Věda a technologie
I subscribed to Nabu Casa for easy remote access but also to support the development of Home Assistant.
Thats the spirit!
Exactly for the same reasons, I think that supporting the development of such a good product is clearly an essential point.
Same here, you can do it with a VPN, get a client connect that way, but, why not support the devs. and then use the products, and, allow them to further develop, as that is what it is used for.. I don't mind shelling out 7.50 for it.. Love home assistant.. Nothing comes close to it.
I love where this channel is going. Looking forward to that Node-RED video. It seems like a logical way to set up automations, I just haven't taken the time to dig into it yet.
Always appreciate your support! Yep, I’m a big fan of Node Red + Alexa. I had a lot of issues with Hue and it has been rock solid since switching over.
You won me as a subcsriber the second I noticed the way you use the word "Alexa" in your videos, well done sir! Too many content creators just blurt it out without consideration. For someone with a bunch of Echo's in the house, it's annoying as...well, let's just say I prefer your way :)
Thank you! It’s funny, I actually forgot to mute those words when I first uploaded the video and I debated whether or not to re-export/upload it. Glad I did now.
I'm also paying for Nabu Casa ... mostly for the support of HA ... but also for the neat integration of Alexa. 🤩
The Alexa integration is 🔥
I haven't really gotten balls deep into HA as yet, but heating (i.e. Radiator Valves) are controlled via DECT (e.g. The Router), the Lighting is controlled by a Trådfi Gateway, also connected to the Router. They are both capable of 'talking' to Alex-A the Shelly stuff that I want to eventually stuff into my Breaker Box is reportedly also Alex-A compatible.
The upshot of all this is the one thing the HA Alex-A Skill can't do, and the only single reason why I would ever run HA in je first, is the Dashboard. Where you indeed have press button control of these Devices. Honestly though. At this point we're it just for the vice, I'd can the Alex-A, and opt for the ESP32 S3 Box 3. I'll leave the pondering of why exactly to you dear reader.
Another helpful video for a technology-challenged person like myself! Thank you
You're very welcome!
Very nice video looking forward to the new videos
More to come!
One main benefit of the HA Cloud is the ability to use zone triggers - eg. kids arrive at school, arrive at work, leave work, or any other geo-located action. Zones that are away from home. You cant do that easily with Tailscale or Tunnelling.
That’s very interesting. Didn’t come up once in my research for this video and wasn’t mentioned anywhere I could see on the Nabu Casa website. Good catch!
I can do this with cloudflare tunnel remote access?
It's not any problem with tunneling and the Home Assistant App on the person's phone.
Great video. I have been using Emulated Hue to turn on and off lights/switches from Alexa. I have also incorporated input booleans to toggle scripts to run. While this has been ok, you still need to remember to say "turn on" or "turn off" to Alexa. I am interested in switching to node red but if I already have an entity setup in Emulated Hue, how to I switch it over to node red? Do I need to wipe out the emulated hue and clear the Alexa cache?
If you get benefit from Home Assistant, believe in a private and locally controlled future of the smart home, and can afford it, paying for Home Assistant Cloud is an easy choice.
Well said!
I did, mainly for the support. Everybody is using it for free, so I’d say support if you can.
Agreed!
One Point you forgot with assist is the home Assistant cloud STT which is really fast and accurate and the TTS voices that you get with the subscription. Piper is a good alternative for TTS which runs really fast even on a raspberry pi but whisper for STT is another story. In my experience it's only accurate enough to be usable with the medium model and up and to run those fast so the voice assistant feels responsive you need a modern GPU or at least an Nvidia jeson Orin.
Yep, you’re right. I know some people really enjoy using TTS with Home Assistant. It also gives you access to webhooks as well. Appreciate you bringing this up. 👍
If I have any subscription it will for home assistant.
I mainly pay for NabuCasa to support the project.
Thank you for your contribution!
Wireguard, faster and secured!
Tailscale is built on Wireguard and it’s easier to set up. 😊
Triangle station truly has horrendous mobile reception... 😅
Oh, it’s horrendous. 😂
Tailscale makes my internet slow
Did you use just for remote access to Home Assistant or do you mean generally as a VPN?
Too expensive for my use case anyway
Fair enough. What’s your use case?
Kinda agree, but then I live in a One Room Flat, where half the space is the Bedroom, the other half is the Livingroom, so the Trådfi lighting is set through the App to wake me up to a dark red room, My smart Radiator Valves, are smart enough to be used (for the most part), as a fire, and forget solution. As they are set to hibernate, from March to October/November.
I just migrated my HA Docker instance of my NAS, and onto a RasPi4 the idea is to eventually tie it into a Touchscreen and, use it as a Control Panel / Noticeboard (Calendar Appointments etc...) I would eventually to install a Shelly EM 3 into my Breaker Panel, and use this to monitor my Electrical usage.
My huge PitA at the moment is how to write Scripts, and setup Automations. For example setting up those Trådfi lights to come on super low and over the course of 30-ish minutes go from Dark Red, over Orange to full incandescent. I think I have to script more less nailed down. The only problem being not knowing how to call this into a Automation, but figuring out how to not have the Bulbs flash at 100% for two seconds, before dropping back to where they should have started from.
Its getting way more expensive when is getting towards to safety. Avoid HA scam as much as possible - they will not take responsibility if soething go south. And will go south - Its HA - its will go south.
you are wining money doing content with Home assistant vids and the first reason, you give, on why we should pay nabucasa is not to support Home Assistant himself?
Sorry, for me is not a good content, I pass
I made it clear that supporting Home Assistant is a very good reason to subscribe. I started with features because most people care more about features. Thanks for your feedback. 🙏
First with 820 subscribers, he's not making much of anything here. And second, nabu casa themselves don't ask you to subscribe to support the HA. They ask you to support for the services they provide. Their whole point is to be value-added add-on - not a charity. I think this approach was spot-on.
nah the VPN get's all your traffic. No thanks
First thing first you should avoid HA as much as possible. Still plenty of security issues in hacks. Constant lack of stability. What is the point of this platform? Asking for money ? Stop ruining IOT space with this defective and unsafe platform and that is already YEARS. This is just risk for home safety and legitimizing dodgy "development" and strange politically involved individuals. .
Take your meds