What is it like being black in Portugal? | Racism | Sexism | Language Barrier

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  • What is it like being black in Portugal? | Racism| Sexism | Language Barrier: In this video, I talk about what it is like being black in Portugal and I also discuss the sexism here, and a bit about the patriotism (what to expect) and also the language barrier with Portuguese.
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Komentáře • 373

  • @ShauntelAngelica
    @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +15

    Hey, guys welcome back to my channel! Would love to know your thoughts below! Have you had similar experiences? Or very different experiences? Feel free to share~

    • @arcanjocesario5986
      @arcanjocesario5986 Před rokem +2

      Cool video. Just want to point out that when people here speak Portuguese to you, they're not assuming that you are Portuguese. They're speaking Portuguese to you simply because the vast majority of black people in Portugal are immigrants (or their descendants) from the ex-colonies who also speak Portuguese. It just so happens that Portuguese is also widely spoken in most Portuguese ex-colonies in Africa. Cheers EDIT: Oh, also ethnic diversity isn't that great in the whole of Portugal. It's mostly concentrated in Lisbon and a few other major urban centers in the coastline. In smaller cities and villages, and towards the interior, the population is still overwhelmingly ethnically Portuguese (white).

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      @@arcanjocesario5986 ​ Thank you for your input. "Portuguese" by definition then according to your comment means someone who is from PORTUGAL specially? (born there, with parents who were from there too?) . Just clarify for me. Thanks .

    • @arcanjocesario5986
      @arcanjocesario5986 Před rokem +1

      @@ShauntelAngelica I'm afraid what "being Portuguese" means is a very subjective thing. Each person will give the term whatever meaning they see fit. The definition you suggest is probably close to how many ethnically Portuguese people think or feel about it (for many, it probably goes beyond just parents). They'll think about it in terms of ethnic lines/cultural history. Might be close-minded and backwards way of thinking, but, on the other hand, I also don't feel comfortable saying "I am Portuguese" because I don't know what that really means. I have an idea of what that entails on a superficial level, but don't feel connected to it. It'd obviously be a facade to claim "I am Portuguese" with any conviction. It's ultimately meaningless, but that's easy for me to say. Maybe I would feel differently if my family history had indeed been ethnically Portuguese and not African. I do appreciate certain aspects of the Portuguese culture, but I don't feel particularly attached to it. Others may. I was born and raised in Portugal (my parents were African immigrants), but I prefer to just say "I have Portuguese nationality." My citizenship is defined by a legally-binding formality. That's all. I'm grateful for enjoying full rights of "being Portuguese." I am privileged.
      Anyway, I was just trying to convey the perspective of someone who spontaneously speaks in Portuguese to a black person in Portugal. People don't usually assume that your nationality is Portuguese, but they also don't necessarily assume that you're an immigrant (there are also black people born in Portugal and with Portuguese citizenship, all descendants of immigrants from former colonies). They'll obviously see that you're ethnically African, so assumptions about your origins will be one of the former colonies until they hear you speak English.

    • @arcanjocesario5986
      @arcanjocesario5986 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@ShauntelAngelica Sorry, I realized my previous answer to your question might have been unnecessarily pedantic and unclear. Basically, yes, I meant someone who is a native from Portugal.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      Thank you for the clarity!@@arcanjocesario5986

  • @pmlbeirao
    @pmlbeirao Před rokem +68

    Lisbon has the biggest and oldest black community in the Iberian Peninsula. There has been a black community in Lisbon since at least the 16th century. What's interesting about it is that large black communities are rare in Southern Europe, except Portugal and maybe Southern France. In Lisbon you can find an unusual cultural mix between southern European culture (in this case Portuguese) and sub-saharan African culture.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +5

      Thanks for sharing !

    • @gratefuldead3750
      @gratefuldead3750 Před rokem +10

      There are no black (yellow, red) communities in Spain, Portugal or france. These people are angolan, mozambican, Caoe Verdian, Senegalese etc. Its about nation and not a colour race concept.
      People from different african countries in Western or central europe dont have relationships amongst each other as well as vietnamese, japanese or Philipine people are not more likely to have social relations among one another based on the notion "yellow" than having relations to the native population. This kind of intermingling based on a weird colour race concept doesent exist in Europe.

    • @naturallyspiritual7256
      @naturallyspiritual7256 Před rokem

      I don't think they're sub Saharan Africans. Pretty sure they're the descendants of the blacks Jews that the Spanish were persecuting during the 16th century

    • @bigdawg1448
      @bigdawg1448 Před rokem +1

      They are also in Italy

    • @diogorodrigues747
      @diogorodrigues747 Před rokem +2

      ​​@@gratefuldead3750You're wrong. Most of them are actually Portuguese citizens already. They went to Portugal a long time ago...

  • @davidmartinspresents
    @davidmartinspresents Před 2 lety +109

    Older Portuguese don't speak English but new generation all speak English. English is widely spoken in Lisbon, Algarve, Madeira and Porto and they love to speak to you in English. Older generation is different, many do not have a lot of education, therefore have those attitudes...

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +11

      Thank you for the insight David. Much appreciated

    • @klimtkahlo
      @klimtkahlo Před rokem +6

      Along with the Netherlands, Portugal is the country where most people speak English well, despite not being native speakers. Also older generations mostly spoke French, which was the international language up until the 80s really!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +3

      @@klimtkahlo This is not accurate but I get what you are saying.

    • @florencioalexandre7873
      @florencioalexandre7873 Před rokem +2

      Normally older folk can speak French (even if only a little bit)
      But as David said, most younger people can speak english and sometimes a 3rd/4th language
      I had French (could also choose Spanish if i wanted) for 3 years from 7th to 9th grade, but forgot most of it by now, ahaha

    • @patricianelsoncarroll7247
      @patricianelsoncarroll7247 Před rokem +1

      Yes! I agree in that perhaps the person who may not speak English or very little it is all one's comfort zone. I would say all a wonderful learning experience positive and negative Blessings ✈️🌎

  • @user-dv4wf1up4s
    @user-dv4wf1up4s Před 3 měsíci +13

    I am English with a Portugeuse wife (African heritage) and have been visiting Portugal for many years. In general the Portugeuse are the most friendly and accomodating people I have met in my travels across the world. Portugal's history is rich and chequered and helps explain much about the Portugeuse people. Portugal's recent history is very relevant. It is worth learning how Salazar turned Portugal into an impoverished nation with slums; some of which were only removed ten years ago.
    The Portugeuse are nation/house proud. If one enters their country/house and proceeds to provide constructive criticism then expect a bit of push back. For the Portugeuese, the right to provide such criticism has to be earned. In general, I have been humbled by the Portugeuse people and their open hospitable nature.
    Having witnessed English speaking tourists acting like speaking English is an inherent right, I am amazed the Portugeuse have remained so helpful. The little push back in Portugal is nothing compared to some European countries.
    Regarding Brasilian, Brasilian is to Portugeues what deep south American is to UK English. There are aspects of Brasilian grammar and language that do not fit Portugal and come across as impertinent; like being called brother or sister in the UK by someone on the street, fine in some contexts but not most.
    On the topic of sexism, it is a double edged blade. The Portugeuse is a Catholic country and has taditional values and no doubt old habits die hard. However, I personally know a number of successful business women, and I believe more property in Portugal is owned by women than men. It is true women in Portugal, on the whole, are expected to act respectfully and in turn are treated with respect; if you wonder what I mean by this watch videos of British female behaviours at bar closing times.
    :o)

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful comment. I completely agree with your observation that Portuguese people, in general, are very hospitable and helpful. You've rightly pointed out that despite the challenges of migration impacting aspects like housing, the overall demeanor of Portuguese people remains hospitable and welcoming. The historical context you provided regarding the reasons for sexism was also interesting. I appreciate your contribution and, once again, thank you for such a great comment. I've learned a few things from it as well.

    • @user-dv4wf1up4s
      @user-dv4wf1up4s Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ShauntelAngelica You might find it interesting to know that the black Portuguese I know do not refer to themselves as afro-portugeuse or African Portuguese, they just say they are Portuguese and they are proud of it. Prefixes are not a Portuguese thing, what prefix is considered ok for white Angolans naturalised Portuguese, they can have many generations of family heritage in Angola. Integration with Portuguese culture, while respecting heritage, has been a positive thing. The challenge Portugal now faces, like many countries, is immigration without cultural integration (and I include the little Britain enclaves in that). Personally, I have chosen to relocate to where there are few English speakers and intend to speak Portuguese, even if badly.

    • @chiefs5822
      @chiefs5822 Před měsícem

      @@user-dv4wf1up4s They should be referring to themselves as black and african foremost! because the white Portuguese are definitely saying otherwise in doors (and you know this). Rather not loose yourself in the fake sense of assimilation. Now thats a lost identity and identity crises awaiting

  • @iceyjo
    @iceyjo Před rokem +52

    You seem like a lovely young lady. Keep traveling and keep exploring. Out of everything I have ever done in my life, traveling is by far the most rewarding no matter if it's a good or bad experience.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +2

      Thank you JR! Much appreciated! I totally agree! Travelling is very fulfilling overall, and each experience we learn something. Cheers

  • @yomioloko9727
    @yomioloko9727 Před 10 měsíci +34

    A very brave video and thanks for your opinions.
    As a conscious 60+ year old Blackman born in the UK but now semi retired in Abuja, Nigeria I love Portugal and it's my first go to European country when now visiting Europe even ahead of the UK.
    Admitted I mostly visit Lisbon and then the Algarve and Porto. Mainly due to the language barrier as I don't like sticking out.
    However that said I do think Portugal is missing an opportunity by not confrontation some of its past history when it comes to slavery and colonialism.
    Portugal was the first European country to start the sale of enslaved Africans. Vist the small slavery museum in Lagos in the Algarve for more on this.
    It was also the last European country to give independence to it African colonies and that was after a violent war of oppression in those countries.
    Also the Portuguese government agencies do NOT breakdown their statistics on the basis of race and heritage so its difficult to measure institutional racism in government agencies sych as housing, health and the police.
    Black Portuguese are also not well represented in the Portuguese media.
    And its a disappointment that the Lisbon government still haven't allowed the monument to acknowledge the role Slavery played in Portugal to be erected.
    For anyone wanting a balanced intro into the Black Portuguese experience and history as it relates to Portugal I would advise contacting Naky of the Black Lisbon Tour project, based in Lisbon
    However all said and done however I still love Portugal and look forward to my often yearly visits to Portugal and if not because of the idiotic Brexit vote in the UK my retirement plan was to spend January to May of ever year living in Portugal enjoying the weather, people and learning the somewhat difficult language

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you so much for such an insightful comment! What you’ve said put a lot of things into perspective. Portugal also is hands down my favourite country in Europe of the 10 other countries I’ve been to, and of course even though we don’t have the right as outsiders to mingle into their affairs as a country I do believe it has great potential to be even better than it is now when it comes to socio political history and said realities.

    • @encouragingthesaints
      @encouragingthesaints Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks for that insight 🙏🏾

    • @Ariventuras
      @Ariventuras Před 4 měsíci +1

      I second the recommendation to do the Afro Lisbon tour with Naky. It was a very enlightening experience.

  • @KayBrynae
    @KayBrynae Před 2 lety +31

    Love hearing your perspective on living there. I've recently started to think about if I'd like living there too since I loved my visit to Lisbon and Porto so much. Looking forward to diving into more of your videos!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you!! And I am happy you enjoyed it! You would enjoy living here!

  • @GQLewis
    @GQLewis Před rokem +10

    I am considering a move to Portugal but I haven't decided which region yet. Thank you for your insight, wisdom, and experience.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      You're most welcome! Are you any closer to a decision?

    • @jonathanaigbedion8750
      @jonathanaigbedion8750 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@ShauntelAngelicathere is black restaurant for food 😅😂. I love eating food.

  • @seles2000
    @seles2000 Před 9 měsíci +7

    My partner is Portuguese and I have been Portugal a few times with him over the years but only short visits. I have been learning to speak Portguese for a few years (on and off) and now I can understand most things if spoken slowly! Your video was super interesting. Thanks for sharing your experiences xx

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 9 měsíci +1

      You are welcome! Thank you for sharing your experience as well and all the best with learning the language :)

  • @Lookingtobounce
    @Lookingtobounce Před 5 měsíci +4

    Thank you for sharing! I've lived in Portugal for 4 months. I have found that when I lead with Portuguese, it helps people to be more gracious. But I have found when I lead with English, especially at a government agency, they do seem to be a bit offended. Also, I agree that there does seem to be more issues of sexism or nationalism than race based issues. But for the most part, people have been super nice and welcoming and friendly to me!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      You are right! Over time, I have learned that too. Thankfully, now I speak Portuguese, and it has been very helpful. And you are right-Portuguese people are welcoming!

  • @LianeSpicer
    @LianeSpicer Před rokem +2

    Very insightful and helpful. Thank you.

  • @firewine
    @firewine Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank u so much for this video. It's very helpful. Much success to u, hon.

  • @inf3ct3ddr3amz
    @inf3ct3ddr3amz Před rokem +21

    I can’t lie I am ready to leave USA for portugal 🇵🇹 it has everything I need and more pretty hype thank you for the video I do have to learn Portuguese 😎

  • @dplouro
    @dplouro Před 6 měsíci +7

    I’m portuguese and I agree with you on the subject of sexism. After living abroad for almost 15 years even the commercials on tv are much more sexist (I will say extremely sexist) than in other european countries. When I said that recently to friends I had to give examples because being part of the society they don’t even realize it.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you understand. I have had really awesome friendships and experiences with both men and women in Portugal, but it's true that sexism does exist, and I know it can be hard to see if you someone has lived in Portugal their whole life.

  • @thelovelylucinda
    @thelovelylucinda Před 2 lety +3

    Brilliant insightful video...thank you 💪🏿💥

  • @Saschiversace
    @Saschiversace Před 2 měsíci

    I have been looking for a youtuber like u my Jamaican sister!!!! Keep up the great work!

  • @Mynameisjenn_
    @Mynameisjenn_ Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’m a first generation Honduran American single mother raising a half black son and am considering leaving the US. Finding a place where that will accept us both, more importantly him, is so important to me. So thank you for your video!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      You are most welcome! I think Portugal could be a great choice! The socio-ethnic atmosphere in Portugal is much better than in the US!!

  • @XinSonia
    @XinSonia Před rokem +14

    Most of the older generation were not able to conclude school because they were forced to go to work really young, because of that sometimes they can get really defensive when someone talks in english (or even when talking portuguese and using some english words in the mix). The anger is more about what they feel was taken from them then about you. And as a portuguese woman I can tell that you are right about the sexism, its getting better, and its not as agressive as other places, but its a constant in everything, and it cames from both men and women. Its the constant comments about what you should and shouldn't do as a woman. Or if you work or talk about something that people think is more oriented for men having to prove yourself constatly just so your opinion is considered. And its me saying this and someone else coming here saying that my experience is invalid just because they did not experienced it themselves.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +2

      Thank you so much for your insight. It was a very interesting read. I really appreciate your sharing!

  • @JermaineSantiagoCruz
    @JermaineSantiagoCruz Před měsícem

    Im just seeing your video, thank you for the content

  • @blackcarriebradshaw
    @blackcarriebradshaw Před rokem +20

    This was SUCH an informative video! Thank you. Now I know what to expect when I visit on my solo trip. USA here. We are not “Get Out” nice in every state, lol. It depends on the region of the US I think. Great video though. Very good.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +3

      Haha! Glad it was helpful! I wish you all the best on your trip here! I really do need to visit more states in the US lol

    • @antwanpenn3316
      @antwanpenn3316 Před 10 měsíci

      Lol Get out nice had me 😭🤣🤣🤣

  • @rickyd732
    @rickyd732 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thank you for this. I am a British Jamaican considering Portugal as an option to move to. Very insightful video.

  • @ibrido5138
    @ibrido5138 Před rokem +1

    thank you for this video, beautiful. i am a austrian jamaican which will be there very soon and thinking about moving to lisbon in future - this is a very helpful video.

  • @josesilva4171
    @josesilva4171 Před 13 dny

    Good luck with your time in Portugal. Bem vinda!

  • @melopd
    @melopd Před rokem +12

    Loved the analysis of the Portuguese people. In fact, I really liked you video. Very honest e “real”. Welcome to Portugal. I hope you have a great time here.

  • @vernonparrish7066
    @vernonparrish7066 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for sharing your experiences, living in Portugal! It's always nice to know how these places treat people of dark skin...

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      You are most welcome! I am happy you found the video insightful!

  • @ApenasUmSenhor
    @ApenasUmSenhor Před 11 měsíci +11

    your experience is clearly Lisbon. For a portuguese, the assumption when seeing a black person will immediately be that he/she stems from one of the former african colonies, namely Angolan or Mozambique, of which quite a lot live in the outskirts of the large city centres like Lisbon or Porto and hold portuguese citizenship. Beyond that many non-black portuguese are themselves born in one of the colonies and hold somewhat sentimental memories. That being said, the general population in portugal sees themselves as what they have become over the past 2000 years: a unique mixture of ibero-celtic (lusitanian), roman, arabic, and germanic ethnicities and cultures that has managed to defend itself against all external attempts of conquest, particularily from spain.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for the insight Christian, the more and more I'm here I'm realising this! Your comment is very informative as well. Cheers

    • @pedrofaria6236
      @pedrofaria6236 Před 10 měsíci

      we need to defend our culture and traditions. These immigrants come and tell us what to do and how to act. You must be kidding me. If they come they need to act under our values, otherwise they can leave.
      "In Rome act like a Roman"

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@pedrofaria6236 Your comment is quite far fetched to say the least, but thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  • @BeOffbeat
    @BeOffbeat Před rokem +19

    My issue is that I'm learning Portuguese but I live in the Midwest and there's no one to seriously practice with, so I know I'll be very insecure about it. I lived in Spain as a child and when we went to Portugal I don't remember it being an issue but my parents were military so it probably had something to do with the abundance of English speakers.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      All the best with your lessons! Speaking Portuguese will be very helpful! And you will have many people very happy and willing to help you boost your confidence with speaking.

    • @expressbm
      @expressbm Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hey @technicallyimme I’m starting to learn Portuguese as well. I have a trip planned for December to visit places outside of Lisbon. Im looking for a partners to practice with. If you’re interested in talking about Portugal and sharing knowledge feel free to connect.

    • @ILoveU2Love1
      @ILoveU2Love1 Před 2 měsíci

      I'm from St Louis but now I live here in Phoenix Arizona. I'm looking to build a second home and considering visiting Portugal; because I've heard such good things about from the black community.

  • @shonangrmedia4409
    @shonangrmedia4409 Před 24 dny +1

    I getting ready to counter you but you ended up saying the truth.
    I have not experienced any form of discrimination.
    They love my sons so much.
    Well-done.

  • @silentshadow4110
    @silentshadow4110 Před rokem +3

    Before Cristiano Ronaldo, in the 60's the best portuguese soccer player was black. He was called Eusebio and was very popular. There is a statue of Eusebio in Lisbon, in the stadium of the biggest soccer team of Portugal, Benfica.

  • @matraquilhochumbo352
    @matraquilhochumbo352 Před rokem +6

    People assume you speak Portuguese because in Portugal there are many Africans from portuguese speaking countries so for us is normal that black people speak portuguese.
    In Portugal there are people with very different skin tones due to our history, first we were invaded by the romans, then the visigoths, then the arabs after that we went to explore the world and we reach all continents, also it was normal for Portuguese sailors marry native people this is why you have a lot of mix Portuguese.

  • @Financialride
    @Financialride Před 3 měsíci +2

    You are so beautiful. I just discovered your channel. I have been in Portugal for 12 years and I can tell you that there is racism but not systemic, not like in USA, or Italy, but it is very well present. The direct way to feel it is when you are looking for an apartment or a house for renting. I have been through it all and I can stand 10 toes on my own experience, at least in Lisbon. When it comes to sexism, I totally agree, 100%. I also agree when it comes to them being defensive. Oooooh girl, when it comes to the language, don't even get me started hahahahaha. They really really really have that way of telling you "how dare you don't speak Portuguese ?" I have a lot to say on that in 12 years. I would only say, they have one single language and most of them don't even speak another language, but they act like foreigners don't already speak at least one language better than them and where born Portuguese. They are welcoming, warm and it decreased, as I can confirm it was way better until early 2016, but when you live with them, you start seeing things that aren't that much lovely. But I love the country sooo much. and thank you for being authentic on this video.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      Thank you!! And thank you so much for your comment. I can resonate with some of what you have said because you have summed up the experience of living here so well in sharing your own 12 years of being here! Despite certain realities as you have mentioned in your comment, I will always LOVE Portugal too!

  • @jasonpillow768
    @jasonpillow768 Před rokem +6

    Impressive. Reppin your culture beautifully🥂

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Thank you Jason!

    • @jasonpillow768
      @jasonpillow768 Před rokem

      You're most welcome.
      I've learned over the years that when we have been blessed to have a giraffe's view it seldom serves us to trust the turtle's view.

    • @jasonpillow768
      @jasonpillow768 Před rokem

      Hey Shauntel
      Will be traveling to Lisbon in Dec. If you're be around I'd love to meet up for coffee.

  • @ygmistique8155
    @ygmistique8155 Před rokem +2

    Hi. You came in my recommendations today and I subscribed. I am wondering did you not think about learning the language before you left Jamaica? You have Internet and you could have learn if even a few sentences from your phone. When you are in a different country and people see you are trying they will help you more. I went to Portugal and even a little lingo helps a long way. It's just like the English ignorant.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +2

      Hey! Thanks for subbing! :) I agree with you. I started learning the language before I moved here, and still learning. I use the language as much as I can.

  • @Raquelwhatzhot
    @Raquelwhatzhot Před dnem

    What a lovely voice. Portugal, Moors, Congo and Arab have a rich multi culture.

  • @ILoveU2Love1
    @ILoveU2Love1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    EXCELLENT!!!👑💪🏿

  • @teddydavis2339
    @teddydavis2339 Před 2 lety +15

    Once you learn the language, it will be more apparent. I lived there for a while and I can tell you, they are very racist. I really surprised that so many African Americans are moving there. I was in Porto and the lady wouldn't rent me a room at a hotel because, according to her, the owner didn't want to rent to black people. Once you get out of Lisbon, you will find a different world. They don't hide it at all. I hope you enjoy your stay.

    • @davidmartinspresents
      @davidmartinspresents Před 2 lety +8

      I think that's a minority. There's a wave of African Americans moving to Portugal and by far their experiences have been positive from the CZcams reports.

    • @ricardo82carvalho
      @ricardo82carvalho Před 2 lety +1

      @@davidmartinspresents
      Agreed unfortunately he had bad experience no country is perfect

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for sharing your experience, Teddy, very insightful

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +1

      @@davidmartinspresents CZcams offers insight only into a very minuscule percentage of the expat cohort here, but I do hope you are correct, that his experience is not widespread. But who's to say...

    • @davidmartinspresents
      @davidmartinspresents Před 2 lety +2

      @@ShauntelAngelica I agree that CZcams is only a small percentage of the expat experience. However, I do have the added experience of having lived in Portugal during my early childhood. I do see a big difference between the USA and Portugal, I think it's much, much worse in the United States. I think sexism is a bigger problem in Portugal than racism, although that is beginning to slowly change. I would like to put out a disclaimer that there are plenty of people that I dislike because of their attitudes and behaviors, regardless if they are white, black, Asian, or any other race. Because I was born in Portugal, I do hold the Portuguese to a higher standard and I do get very irritated with backward opinions that some Portuguese have...

  • @NuelOtene
    @NuelOtene Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hello Shauntel, thanks for your detailed information. Please I want to know if I can get a vocational school in Portugal that I can apply and travel from my home country in Africa down to Portugal. Thanks

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      Hello Nuel, my biggest advice: Research the program you want to do, find a school that has the program and then apply! After you have applied, I have a video on some general documents you may need for the visa application process that you can watch here: czcams.com/video/bt0ZkJ4cMvI/video.htmlsi=cXx5mIdvnepu1bLk

  • @inf3ct3ddr3amz
    @inf3ct3ddr3amz Před rokem +4

    Plan on moving that way soon I can’t wait ether Lisbon , Porto , algrave , vero

  • @fearedlegend
    @fearedlegend Před 19 dny

    What a great comment you made and very accurate. Portuguese will be genuinely nice to you but not be overly nice or fake just because you are a foreigner. They are just pleasant and friendly. Great observation . Have a wonderful time there . We welcome you .

  • @siriusqueen3476
    @siriusqueen3476 Před rokem +10

    I only experienced language barriers with the older generation, 45 and up. Locals explained to me that English language was not taught in schools many years ago. But now its compulsory so the younger generation know how to speak. And professionals like bankers, hotel receptionists and most tourist business have alot of English speaking staff, at least 3 out of the bunch will speak English. Just ask to be refered to English speaking staff they will be glad to assist you.

    • @mariam.3224
      @mariam.3224 Před rokem +4

      Hi, let me explain that I am 65 and studied English and French at school, sadly I didn't learn German which was also taught. It happens that most people just didn't learn languages because their area of studies didn't include it. Or maybe they left school too soon... English and French were mandatory those days. 🙂

    • @siriusqueen3476
      @siriusqueen3476 Před rokem +2

      @@mariam.3224 interesting, as it was a Portuguese man that stated it to be a fact. I guess some didn't go to school and feel uncomfortable saying that.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      Great!! Thank you for sharing your experience!

    • @flashcamping
      @flashcamping Před 11 měsíci

      @@siriusqueen3476 Although the languages were available to learn, a lot of people from older generations (like my grand parents) lived in the country side where school was often put aside in order to work the fields, helping their own parents and so forth. Most older people in those "off-grid" villages did like till 4th grade, and started working right after.
      Hence there is this big gap still, between older generations and newer ones.
      Also, back in the day having a colorless TV was already fancy, let alone having the same exposure and internet acess that my own generation experienced back in 1990.

    • @beachlover1258
      @beachlover1258 Před 8 měsíci

      Even if you find someone that doesn't speak english there's a very high possibility that they know someone that does. We are always glad to help.

  • @butterflyroho6470
    @butterflyroho6470 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi! I’m planning to visit Lisbon and Porto. Can you recommend hotels (not Airbnbs) that are very nice and also welcoming to melanated individuals. Thank you.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 10 měsíci

      Hey sounds great! I don’t know many recommendations but please check out the Facebook group Black in Portugal and you will get a lot of suggestions if you post this as a question in the group! . Also the group overall is super super resourceful! All the best ❤️

  • @thamigmsibi6108
    @thamigmsibi6108 Před 8 měsíci +2

    So basicaly you mean Portugal is Paradise, good to hear there's such a good place in Europe.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      If that is your take on this video, great! I love Portugal!

  • @Nnomadd
    @Nnomadd Před 8 měsíci +3

    Very nice video, and great insights. I think you make very sharp remarks. We are indeed a melting pot, and more so in Lisbon, with a curious mix of European, African and Brazilian culture. I find it strange Portuguese will blame you to not speak Portuguese, general this is not the case, people are very open and generally kind to foreigners. I agree with the statement that an individual social position (Portugal is still a very traditional country), gender and wealth are more relevan thow people react to that individual than race, but of course there is also some racism in Portugal, just not as toxic as in other countries.

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you Portuguese people can't force any one to speak their language. It's by choice and interest, not an obligation as some clout chasers are babbling gibberish and professing to on this channel.

    • @jeanjacqueslundi3502
      @jeanjacqueslundi3502 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@globalismoblackman You can think what you will. If you go to a different country, obviously you are going to have to learn the language at SOME point to fully integrate. In general us portuguese are some of the most accomodating in regards of language of anyone in Europe, I can assure you. If enlgish is your first language, than you might be experiecing a DIFFERENT pheonomena - a native english speaker meeting the reality of a non-english speaking country. If I go to England....no one is going to pull any punches just because I dont' speak the language.

  • @cestvic9781
    @cestvic9781 Před 2 lety +5

    Hi Shauntel, you look great. I was curious, do you really like it in Portugal, compared to other places you’ve lived in. I’m moving to Portugal in a few months and I’m trying to gather all info I can. Taking it into consideration that experiences differ still

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +3

      Hi how are you? Sorry for just seeing your comment. So far my experience in Portugal has been good. Do you have anything specific about here that you are curious about that will help you to gain more insight ?

  • @odracir1976
    @odracir1976 Před rokem +11

    Untill you speak or try to speak portuguese you always be consider a tourist.
    We enjoy that people at least try to learn our language and not aspect us to speak other languege.

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před rokem

      I am a tourist and will always stay a tourist I can't be pressured to speak any foreign language so the locals accept me. I will learn a foreign language because I like it and want to on my on terms 😊😁

    • @ImoDouglas
      @ImoDouglas Před rokem +1

      @@globalismoblackman I don’t think that’s a nice thing to say. How will you feel if a tourist comes to your country and starts speaking a foreign language without even trying to say a word or 2 of yours?
      Why then do you go to a country and not even learn the basic greetings?

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před 8 měsíci

      @@ImoDouglas I cannot and will NOT force any tourists to speak my language if they dont have the desire and motivation its a choice NOT an obligation to speak my language.

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před 8 měsíci

      @samueldefaria6726 Stop clout chasing you little attention seeking punk talking slick at me. Do i know you ? NO. So STOP communicating with me I DONT care to know you. I stand by my conviction I DON'T have to learn a foreign language by duress. I will learn a foreign language of my choice because I choose to not because I am compelled to because I have visited a foreign country.

    • @glidkomer
      @glidkomer Před 4 měsíci

      ​@globalisumoblackman 🎯

  • @ppietrap3876
    @ppietrap3876 Před rokem +4

    hi shauntel, I hope you have had better experiences since then, but I would like to give you my perspective about sexism! I know there is some fringe of the portuguese culture that still behaves in some sort of sexist (macho) manner, however from my experience in college and working in similar environments I have never seen anyone’s professional or intelectual opinion being dismissed because they were a woman. Women are usually the best students, the hardest workers, highly respected and probably the majority at least in my field of work. What I could say though is that women might feel uncomfortable because of some language that is used.
    Patriotism, you are spot on (and it has become worse), though I believe not everyone is like that. I would however mention that the language problem cannot really be compared with Jamaica... most foreigners in Jamaica already speak English, so you wouldn’t experience the pressure of having so many people you interact with not knowing your language in your own country. You have to understand that there is some resentment in Lisbon because many people are being displaced from their homes (etc) because of a big influx of foreigners is rising prices.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing such a very insightful perspective! Much appreciated. You are right, no one's intellectual opinion would be dismissed because they are a woman. I have not seen that. What I have seen though is women having to "unknowingly" work twice as hard to get the same grades as their male counterpart. It is not something intentional, it is what I realise, just a very covertly subconscious remnant of a male dominated history that is still lingering systematically. My experience comes from studying and working in a male dominated industry. This may be a deeper explanation as to why you have observed women being the best students and "hardest workers". We have to work very hard in order to be the best students and or highly respected.

    • @ppietrap3876
      @ppietrap3876 Před rokem +3

      @@ShauntelAngelica I can understand why you could see things from that perspective, but I don’t see it that way in my field. This follows the same pattern that I have seen since a young age. As for being the hardest workers I meant it in the sense of more mature, organised and levelled headed, more efficient with their time and effort, not in the sense of competition (on that I cannot say much).

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      @@ppietrap3876Thank you for clarifying

    • @bluebellbeatnik4945
      @bluebellbeatnik4945 Před rokem +2

      are you a man? you cannot speak for women and our experiences. It's nice you can observe from afar but unless you're moving in a female body, you simply don't know. Things happen covertly without you seeing them. I would question your intentions in trying to 'clarify'.

    • @tanikapatrick6795
      @tanikapatrick6795 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@bluebellbeatnik4945Well said!

  • @paulacaldeira9946
    @paulacaldeira9946 Před rokem +10

    Hello… you are right about sexism… Although we have in our universities more than 50% women studying, our society is very paternalistic yet… women have to work much more then men to be recognized… and we still have a serious problem of domestic violence… not to speak of men killing women out of jealousy… I guess it’s because women are much more independent now and men don’t know how to deal with it…
    About racism, we have it too, but as a white person I’ll describe it as more subtle… we notice in little things, some of them not clear to me… only talking with some black friends they explain to me…but I hope things will get better… nothing like we see in USA

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před rokem +1

      That's my reading of the energy of the people of Madeira😊. I had a nice vacations there in December 2022. They were not hostile or cold to tourists just conservative people living their own lives. Is racism there ? most certainly but I did not experience any thing negative all. So for me personally I had a positive experience there.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Thanks for sharing your insight Paula! That's very interesting. Yes the racism here is not as overt as the US for sure so that's refreshing...

  • @margaretmarh
    @margaretmarh Před rokem +3

    Hey Is Portugal a good choice to study for a bachelors degree in English??

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      Hi Margaret , its depends what you are studying and what university you are going to. Most programs are in Portuguese but you can find degree programs in English.

  • @standelasanantone2180
    @standelasanantone2180 Před 2 lety +3

    Just curious... if language is creating dissonance how difficult is it to be a non-Portuguese speaking student?

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety

      To be honest. , it is less difficult than I thought it would be . At my university, professors are really nice and are very very accommodating ! I also have the freedom to submit my assignments in English. The only qualm about not being able to speak the language , is that sometimes I miss a lot of details for example for a specific assignment, esp. if that professor does not speak English very well or at all. Furthermore, I can only connect with my Portuguese classmates superficially, as It is hard to communicate naturally or even be myself, as for example, my sense of humour is not easily grasped here, and I have to speak a somewhat "simplified" version of English ( omitting complex/ ambiguous English words) so that I'm properly understood at all times.

    • @dio_hoestar_4204
      @dio_hoestar_4204 Před rokem +1

      Hey! If you become lost or confused in classes, ask your classmates.
      Most of us younger people speak english! Teachers too.
      In college its easier, there are more accomodations and were used to foreigners due to erasmus .
      The teachers might speak broken english, but usually they will try their hardest or ask for help. Many of my teachers usually dedicate some time in class to directly explain things to foreigners so they don't get lost.
      Even if you're lost, keep asking. People who speak broken english will usually take you to someone who is fluent.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      @@dio_hoestar_4204 ​ @DIO_Hoestar_420 Thank you, yes I ask my classmates and teachers as well. They are very helpful and approachable. You are right, even if the teachers speak broken English they try their very best to explain when I have any questions about details I missed. I really love and appreciate that about them. Very willing to help

    • @captivatedlunt1895
      @captivatedlunt1895 Před rokem

      @@ShauntelAngelica shouldn’t you try to learn Portuguese?. I mean you’re living there right? I feel like it’s only common sense to learn the language because not everyone will be able to speak English with you. Yes English is a lingua Franca but not everyone knows it or knows it well enough. Not trying to sound harsh or anything but I’m just saying if it were me I’d learn the language. I think it’d be better in the long term because it’ll help you. It’s kinda hard looking for resources to learn Portuguese(European)I’m ngl but if you learn it you’ll be more confident I believe. Hope it helps you out in some way. Just wanna make sure that you’re not just depending on English to get around I mean it’s nothing wrong with that ofc but would always be best to know the language especially if you’re going to be there for a long period of time. Like I said before it’s no hate or anything its just me giving my unwarranted opinion lol. If this means anything I’m also a native English speaker but learning Portuguese on my spare time I don’t live in Portugal or anything I just love languages lol.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      @@captivatedlunt1895 Hi, Thanks for your comment! I know it comes from a good place, but I think you have the wrong impression that I am not trying to learn Portuguese and I think you may not realise how difficult the language is especially speaking it correctly. Most of my classes are in Portuguese so I am constantly exposed to the language, I live here so I have to speak Portuguese here and there and I am also enrolled in Portuguese classes, yet still have not yet mastered it. Until I am at a good level of communication with Portuguese, I have no choice but to primarily rely on the language I know how to use best, which is English. Like many of us who move here, and I can tell you now if you decide to move here, that learning Portuguese online like what you are doing now, is incomparable to the in-person experience you will have while living in Portugal... A very humbling experience to say the least. Thankfully Portuguese people here are very helpful when they realise you are learning to help you with words or if they know English they sometimes switch to English to help you. Just a little insight also: My Brazilian friends have difficulties understanding the Portuguese spoken here, so it may sound like an easy feat but it isn't. It will take time and a lot patience with yourself to get to where you want to be with the language, and I will be very happy when I finally achieve that goal. All the best with your lessons!

  • @SERGIO-cr6uy
    @SERGIO-cr6uy Před 2 lety +3

    Welcome Back Shantel.. Long time no see! How have you been?
    First of all, it seems that you need to update the "Jamaican Vagabond" (video presentation) to your name, or vice versa.
    Regarding Blacks in Portugal, you have to take in account that Portugal had many colonies in Africa such as:
    Angola, Moçambique, Guiné-Bissau, Cabo Verde, São Tomé e Príncipe..
    Many of these populations emigrated to Portugal, hence some Portuguese thinking you're from an ex-colony & speak to you in Portuguese.
    You made a point about people blending in wearing flashy clothing.
    Here in France, we had many Africans that immigrated.
    Some blend in, some not, and by that I mean some still wear everyday their African clothing. They do stant out in the crowd.
    Now if you blend-in while living in Lisbon, it's gonna be different in smaller towns in Portugal where black folks didn't move to.
    But don't worry, I'm sure they won't throw stones at you 😉

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi, Sergio good to hear from you again! I hope you are doing well and have fantastic plans for the Easter break :). What you have mentioned is quite interesting I've been learning about this here too, quite intriguing history. The name "Jamaican Vagabond" goes hand in hand with "Shauntel Angelica" ;). I agree different styles of clothing can be a dead giveaway. And I can imagine in smaller towns there may be different but I imagine not too different

    • @SERGIO-cr6uy
      @SERGIO-cr6uy Před 2 lety +1

      @@ShauntelAngelica I totally forgot.. Happy Easter to you!
      Regarding the "Jamaican Vagabond", I thought the "logo" should match your name, that's what we usually see on other YT channels.
      Back to "being black" in Portugal, many over 70ies went to Angolana / Moçambique to fight there prior to 25 of April 1974 (Portugal révolution, also known as Carnation Revolution 🌺).
      These militaries went there and killed many, as ordered by Salazar's orders.
      Many came back with post syndromes and inicitate that revolion, which no blood was shed.
      That's probably why the Portugueses don't generally denigrate black population, as they are aware of the mistakes & suffering of the past.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +1

      @@SERGIO-cr6uy Happy Easter too Sergio ! Thank you for the information. It’s very helpful in understanding the history more . Cheers

  • @lizagaceri6748
    @lizagaceri6748 Před rokem +1

    Motivated being am visiting soon

  • @ejchilds4095
    @ejchilds4095 Před 8 měsíci +4

    It boggles me how ppl can't contemplate the basic idea of FAIRNESS across all spectrums of life.

  • @UbuTube
    @UbuTube Před 2 lety +31

    Here are my two cents about your video (WARNING: contains potentially contentious opinions):
    a) Portugal is a lot more about social position, money and gender than about race. Racism exists but it comes only in third or fourth place in the factors that may (or may not) affect how one is seen by others. The 2013 Oprah Winfrey hissy fit in Switzerland while shopping for a $38K purse is difficult to understand from a Portuguese perspective...
    b) We have a saying here
    'Em Portugal não há racismo, só há racismozinho'
    which I would translate as
    'In Portugal you'll only find petty racism' (as in petty crime vs serious crime)
    in my opinion it is a very accurate way of describing the situation here
    c) If I saw you on the street I'd assume you to be Portuguese (as happened with other people who assumed you were Portuguese and started speaking in PT with you). In a way you thought that was a good thing, but there is a subtle dimension to it that you are probably missing. We look at Angolans, Mozambicans, etc and many of us think "Portuguese"... do you understand where I'm coming from? It is a good thing unless the person in question's position is "I'm not Portuguese, we've become "Angolans" since 1975, get that in your thick head". It is a totally reverse mindset compared to the American point of view... there is a type of "racism" in Portugal that sees Angolans, Mozambicans, etc as Portuguese because it refuses to accept that those countries' independence is for real. Weird, isn't it?
    d) I think you're also missing some dimensions of the "We're in Portugal, speak Portuguese" reaction. I've heard that sentence several times in my life, and it was always uttered by low class, low culture people. Those are almost the only people in Portugal who won't speak at least some English. That sentence stems from a low class inferiority complex, rather than from a jingoist attitude. Also very few Brazilians will speak English, and there are LOTS of Brazilians in Portugal. Are you sure some of the people who said that sentence weren't actually Brazilian?

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +10

      Thank you for your perspective Pedro. It was great reading this . It goes to show how a shift in perspective can change everything and how one’s socialization and historial connection affects how we view the world or a particular situation . Our modern society is so filled with a lot of twists and turns and everything is more than how it is on the surface which is great in many ways but at the same time can be problematic… perfect for highlighting injustices but also it can poison our minds from “moving on” or even interpreting things that are not there . As Jamaican would you say then since I share a different historial background to ex colonies of Portugal that I have more “peace of mind” living here than say those from ex colonies ? As I don’t have to incorporate certain historial events that would affect how I see life and the people here ? I think so. Would you agree ?

    • @UbuTube
      @UbuTube Před 2 lety +16

      @@ShauntelAngelica Yes I agree, you benefit from the Portuguese integrationist attitude while not suffering from colonial traumas. Some people from our ex-colonies, particularly the Angolans, hold a grudge against Portugal. It is very ambivalent though, because at the same time they may hold a grudge, they also feel a lot safer in Portugal than in their countries of origin. Some of them are torn between, "I don't like Portugal's past history" and "but Angola did not turn out what we all wanted it to be after independence". The ones that cannot solve this dilemma live in a weird limbo of unresolved emotions.
      It doesn't affect everybody the same way though. Goans for instance, are totally unaffected by it. In my opinion, no one is more "Portuguese" than the Goans. In the space of three generations they twice lost everything they owned because they refused to let go of their Portuguese identity.
      When Goa was taken over by India in 1961, they left Goa, mostly to Mozambique, because they refused to become "Indian". Then in 1975, When Mozambique became independent, they again lost everything and moved en masse to continental Portugal, again refusing to cease being Portuguese.
      The reward is plain to see, Goans and Ismaelites have climbed our social pyramid to the very top, and own or manage innumerable Portuguese companies, not to mention that our Prime Minister is of Goan origin.
      In Portugal money and power always trump everything else. If you are culturally Portuguese, speak with any version of European Portuguese accent (Lisbon, Porto, Alentejo, Madeira, whatever), and look prosperous you'll be treated deferentially, regardless of gender or race. While many Portuguese of African origin speak with some degree of African accent, the Goans tend to speak with a Lisbon accent. Small details sometimes make a big difference...

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +9

      @@UbuTube Thank you for the information Pedro . It’s very good learning more about the history which in all sense is quite interesting.. Coming from a country that was colonized as well, I can understand how ex colonies are still economically in the semi periphery or periphery and will probably never be considered apart of the “core” in my lifetime . It’s not by accident that most ex colonies whether from the Portuguese , Spanish , British etc are still struggling today comparatively less stabilized than the countries that colonized them who undoubtedly have the benefit of better socio economic stability.
      Overall it’s draining to think about these things but also important to have these kind of discussions . All things considered, at this point of my life , my main goal is to go out with positive vibes wherever I am , meet good people ( which most people in the world are ) and try to be a good steward in the society.

    • @tonycordeiro5495
      @tonycordeiro5495 Před rokem +2

      Being of Portuguese culture ( first generation Canadian) i must agree with your perception of racism in the portuguese culture and/ communities
      ...although there is always the exception
      Many Portuguese are of mixed races and ethnicities even prior to the exploration years and it just increased with the years and centuries of exploration...

    • @arcanjocesario5986
      @arcanjocesario5986 Před rokem +9

      @Short Scenes From Old Movies that's a lot of bizarre mental gymnastics to attempt to explain how racism works in Portugal lol. Sorry, but I feel like you're just making it up. The reason most Portuguese people will speak Portuguese to a black person in Portugal is simply the fact that most black immigrants (and their descendants) in Portugal came from the ex-colonies, where Portuguese is also widely spoken. It has nothing to do about assuming one's citizenship. I'm a black dude born and raised in Portugal. I'm in my thirties and never has anyone automatically assumed I was Portuguese when people actually tried to guess my nationality or where I came from, even though I have no perceptible African accent when I speak. And if that were the case I find it very unlikely that it would be due to some weird unwillingness to recognize the independence of the ex-colonies. I'm pretty sure most Portuguese are actually glad those territories are no longer Portuguese territory given how slowly those countries' economies and standards of living have developed since their independence (and this could perhaps premise a much more sound "theory" of racism in Portugal, but even then, no first world country in the world would want to claim any sort of ownership over any economically challenged third world country, so even this is a poor justification for the whys and hows of racism in Portugal). Note that I'm not denying that there is racism in Portugal. I'm just saying that your opinion about racism in Portugal definitely sounds dubious and farfetched.

  • @TagusMan
    @TagusMan Před rokem +20

    Too funny. Taxi drivers can be the worst. You don't have to be black or not speak Portuguese to get rubbish attitude from taxistas. A few years ago, friends of mine, Brazilian ladies in their 40s and 50s with good Portuguese jobs who obviously spoke Portuguese and who all loved Portugal, were verbally assaulted by a taxi driver who clearly hated foreigners, even Portuguese speaking foreigners. I've had problems with taxi drivers too, and I'm a Portuguese white dude. Some people you just can't fix.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +2

      I guess its unavoidable then, haha . Thanks for sharing!

    • @ApenasUmSenhor
      @ApenasUmSenhor Před 11 měsíci

      but, to tell the truth: weren't those ladies speaking brazilian rather than portuguese? There is a vast difference in pronounciation, and my experience is that most brazilians make no attemt of hiding or adapting it. I have quite often heard portuguese people, even well-eduacated ones, state their reservations against brazilians.

    • @emersonalencar8381
      @emersonalencar8381 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ApenasUmSenhorI don’t hear british people asking Americans to get rid of their accent, it’s the same language just deal with it

    • @ApenasUmSenhor
      @ApenasUmSenhor Před 10 měsíci

      @@emersonalencar8381 not sure. If americans were to immigrate to england in large numbers, some brits might indeed object. I am of the (admittedly somewhat outdated) opinion that it is up to the receiving population whom they will receive and under what conditions.

    • @TagusMan
      @TagusMan Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@ApenasUmSenhor It's not an easy trick to change your accent, regardless of language. And European Portuguese is particularly difficult. The Portuguese have a much easier time learning other languages and adopting the Brazilian accent than vice versa. It is what it is.

  • @NOCDIB
    @NOCDIB Před měsícem

    Black American living in Sweden, here. Where were you in Sweden that you were stared at? It doesn't sound like it was Stockholm, Gothenburg, or Malmo (the big 3 cities).
    Most problems expats have is trying to get along in another country like they do in their native country. Im fluent in Portuguese and have had no problems in Brazil or Portugal. If you make even a half-hearted attempt to communicate in Portuguese it will get you far.

  • @lactosalldaindustriadoleit8240

    Girl, I would say you are Cape Verdean or Angolan. You should explore the 5 PALOP African peoples who speak PT. It's a fantastic experience...

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing ! I will check it out!

    • @nomeinserido5524
      @nomeinserido5524 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ShauntelAngelicae Portugal é um país misto na margem sul teem muitos brancos que são angolanos e tá tudo habituado a misturas , mas quanto mais norte mais de lado olham e Lisboa centro tbm é estranho com os palopes ou raça mistas… não sei escrever inglês direito 😂 traduz só 😅

  • @jayburns94
    @jayburns94 Před rokem +2

    What has been (or seen) your experience with Portugal men dating black women? How does that fair?

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +5

      Portugal overall is eclectic, especially in places like Lisbon. So a "Portuguese" man, indistinctively, can easily be from any part of the racial spectrum. Seeing a "black" person dating a "non-black person" or a "black" person dating a "black" person etc, whatever the case, is very normal. Based on what I have observed in Lisbon, no one socially tries to control who dates who. Also, the international community here is quite expansive, so there are a lot of people you can meet and the dating culture reflects that: A Portuguese dating a Brazilian, a French dating a Czech, a German dating an Irish, a Ukrainian dating an Angolan and so on...

    • @BF-bb5us
      @BF-bb5us Před rokem

      I didn't see it at all. Those that are saying it is a common feature is not true at all

  • @filipegoncalves4875
    @filipegoncalves4875 Před rokem +3

    Yes, there’s a lot of black people in the south (especially Lisbon), try to go to the north… I live in Porto and i’m the only black person in MANY places

  • @mrvoid912
    @mrvoid912 Před rokem +2

    How mich is required for Portuguese proof of funds please?

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      The last time I checked I believe it was at least 40EUR per day based on the length of your trip . Here is the website that gives more information on Portugal and also other countries in the EU: www.schengenvisainfo.com/schengen-visa-application-requirements/means-subsistence/

    • @mrvoid912
      @mrvoid912 Před rokem +1

      @@ShauntelAngelica Thanks so much

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      @@mrvoid912 Sure, no problem

  • @Mwesh506
    @Mwesh506 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I wish I could get an opportunity to come to Portugal it will be a dream come true

  • @SandStormXII
    @SandStormXII Před 5 měsíci +1

    interesting take

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      Thank you, and I am curious to know, what are your thoughts?

  • @aidanmaguire8712
    @aidanmaguire8712 Před 8 měsíci +2

    If you are living in a country you must speak the language

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci

      Sure! I agree. Fast forward and I now speak Portuguese comfortably at the A2 level.

  • @sobowaleibukunoluwa411
    @sobowaleibukunoluwa411 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I live in lisbon,i met an old woman at the health center who was so mean to me and the kids because i couldn't express myself in portuguese 😢she said to me "U ARE A BAD PERSON"just because i couldn't speak portuguese language after 1month in lisbon😢

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      You will meet people who get upset if you are unable to communicate in Portuguese. I hope that sharing this video, you understand that you are not alone. Don't let it get you down; the more you are here, the more you will learn the language and be able to communicate in it. It has been 8 months since you commented; how is your Portuguese now?

  • @sn4tx
    @sn4tx Před rokem +6

    Portuguese here. Quick lesson: no one from outside of Portugal can criticise Portugal except Portuguese themselves. 😂

  • @malikahm4053
    @malikahm4053 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You go KJa,maican queen

  • @user-he8wl7jr2o
    @user-he8wl7jr2o Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love from China,Can you introduce how to apply university in Portugal

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 5 měsíci

      Hey thank you! Sending love to you from Portugal. Yes, I made a video here: czcams.com/video/bt0ZkJ4cMvI/video.htmlsi=7zV6W-rC5gS7GTGI . Let me know after watching it, if it helped and if not, let me know what questions you have.

  • @janwalotallokairoulaisabat5662

    Portugal 🇵🇹 has great history I will like to visit for a short term I think Portugal is first European country who went to Africa

    • @matraquilhochumbo352
      @matraquilhochumbo352 Před rokem +1

      Europe and Africa already knew each other and had commercial relations even with areas such as Congo and Angola, but yes Portuguese are the first Europeans to explore the west and east coasts of Africa by sea.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +2

      I believe you'll enjoy your trip here. I believe Portugal was one of the first to colonise, yes. It was not just a matter of "going there" or "exploring".

    • @BF-bb5us
      @BF-bb5us Před rokem +1

      That was rather diplomatic, they didn't just visit they were brutal and tried to wipe out Indigenous culture and language.

    • @BF-bb5us
      @BF-bb5us Před rokem

      ​@@matraquilhochumbo352 you mean they were colonialists and quite horrid ones.

    • @matraquilhochumbo352
      @matraquilhochumbo352 Před rokem

      @@BF-bb5us No, I meant they were the first to explore the coast of Africa.

  • @lmlm3895
    @lmlm3895 Před 10 měsíci

    This is really significant, honest and helpful, Yet it could only help if you explore -really consider the Micro-aggressions, The deep history of Slavery and other systemeic racisim that is def real in Portugal, their are many intersections of racisim & Isms you are naming but not clearly. Thank you

  • @sr2291
    @sr2291 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Portugal was part of the Caliphates. There has been a mix of cultures for centuries.

  • @Tia-ls3le
    @Tia-ls3le Před rokem +1

    Was the visa process easy?

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Relatively. What part of the process do you want to know about specifically?

    • @Tia-ls3le
      @Tia-ls3le Před rokem +2

      @@ShauntelAngelica i am unsure about the d7. Is it only for passive income or is it a work visa? is finding a job with sponsorship difficult? Thank you for replying.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      @@Tia-ls3le I don't have much information about the D7 visa, but you can find FB groups from expats who moved here with threads of conversation about the D7. There are also different online resources as well.

    • @Tia-ls3le
      @Tia-ls3le Před rokem

      @@ShauntelAngelica Okay thank you!

  • @firewine
    @firewine Před 3 měsíci +1

    How do u find dating there?

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I am sorry I don't have much insight on that.

    • @ripe_avocados
      @ripe_avocados Před 2 měsíci

      You should go on a couple of dates then make a video.

  • @BF-bb5us
    @BF-bb5us Před rokem +2

    These comments are rather bizarre. The African communties are there because of an unfortunate reason not just because they happen to be there. It is also visible to see how unhappy there unless one lives in their own world. Lisbon was definitely an experience and a difficult one.

  • @ashwinpatel5617
    @ashwinpatel5617 Před měsícem

    Hi how is job ?

  • @danieldhardman5388
    @danieldhardman5388 Před 8 měsíci

    So, you're saying that one can be in Portugal and just be human, i.e., not have to be "black" with a predetermined place in the social structure? That's the place for me. Thanx so much for this video.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 8 měsíci

      Yes more less in Lisbon specifically, or other heavy expat cities like Porto. Portugal is an amazing country and it really depends on your outlook and approach to life there. But don't be surprised though if you face some prejudice, as others have had this experience in Portugal as well. My main advice is to find community, it will make a big difference to your experience there. I hope this gives you an even better wholistic view, All the best!

  • @brixcosmo6849
    @brixcosmo6849 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It's the same as being whatever! We don't do that nonsense USA labelling. Cristiano Ronaldo is not more Portuguese than Rafael Leão! We do not refer to People like that! We do not have races in our ID's! You guys should try it in USA!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      I am unsure what your point is, but anyhow, thank you for your comment!

  • @lxportugal9343
    @lxportugal9343 Před rokem +1

    If someone says "speak Portuguese"
    Just say you are a tourist... and don't bother yourself with that 😁

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Haha, I'm happy that I'm taking classes now so I can get around with the language better.

  • @anibalvalente3017
    @anibalvalente3017 Před rokem +1

    Shauntel as i said before i got to USA on a saturday when i was 11 n on monday in the school in Newark NJ other kids made fun of me because i didn't speak English n 4 of them stole my lunch money for 2 weeks, untill i kicked 1 of theis asses....LOL.....TYVM For saying we're not racists.....CIAO.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing about your NJ school experience Anibal!!

  • @jeanlundi2141
    @jeanlundi2141 Před rokem

    What is happening in the US that all of a sudden people think coming to Portugal is cool? 15 years ago this didn't happen? I wonder what changed (?)

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Thanks for posting the questions Jean. Curious to hear what other people's perspective are on the matter. All the best - Shauntel

    • @desdior1207
      @desdior1207 Před 10 měsíci

      It’s the inflation here. The extinction of middle class. Slaving jobs all year around with taxes taking big chunks of the checks and we are looking for a way out.

    • @jeanlundi2141
      @jeanlundi2141 Před 10 měsíci

      @@desdior1207 Why Portugal though? It's cheap I suppose, for american standards, but it's far from being the only cheaper country in Europe, let alone teh world.

    • @desdior1207
      @desdior1207 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jeanlundi2141 idk why there. I’m in no position to move out the country as of rn but I guess it’s what they research far as benefits and weather etc

  • @peterkorutaro8772
    @peterkorutaro8772 Před rokem +1

    I've lived in Colombia and they too are very patriotic and are very defensive over Colombia even though they themselves criticise it. They're hypocrites!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      Thanks for sharing your experience Peter

    • @thekingofmoney2000
      @thekingofmoney2000 Před rokem +1

      Most Latin American countries are that way.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem

      @@thekingofmoney2000 Thank you for the insight

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 Před rokem +2

      That happens in a lot of countries
      If you receive someone in your home you wouldn't like to hear him complaining about your home... if even yourself make the same critics
      You have to be very subtil and careful when you critizice... otherwize it's offensive

  • @First362
    @First362 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nothing wrong with patriotism. Patriotism is fully recamended.

  • @josealvesmerello
    @josealvesmerello Před 3 měsíci +1

    I hope people just look at you because you are beautiful. Now, if there are racist idiots? Surely you’ll unfortunately find those everywhere. Hope you have a good time in Portugal.

  • @bluebellbeatnik4945
    @bluebellbeatnik4945 Před rokem +3

    It's definitely because you're in Lisbon. If you go outside of that they can be quite racist. I'm in the UK (black and with portuguese heritage) and the portuguese here can be very racist. My mother is from one of the islands and I found them to be nicer.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry to hear you have experienced this. I have not travelled outside of Lisbon much, but I will keep an eye out for that when I do.

    • @bby_euphxria
      @bby_euphxria Před rokem +1

      Hey do you know if Madeira is racist I'm planning to go there to travel and I have heard some negative things from my friends about racism towards black people and I just wanna know how it is and if I should be really concerned..

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před rokem +1

      ​@@bby_euphxria I was in Madeira Island in December 22 nothing but positive experiences l was on the island for just 2 weeks though so didn't stay longer enough to get a deepening perspective about the local people energy towards black people. BTW l am from the UK. 😊

    • @bby_euphxria
      @bby_euphxria Před rokem +1

      @@globalismoblackman oh that's so nice to hear! I'm from the UK aswell thank you for telling me x

    • @globalismoblackman
      @globalismoblackman Před rokem +1

      @@bby_euphxria My youngest sister and her husband also went to Madeira Island in February this year too. The centre of the island is called Funchal it is probably the best place to stay where all the tourist attractions are , you will enjoy it there it is clean and safe.

  • @samuelayo7368
    @samuelayo7368 Před měsícem

    Hi I like you and I'll love to be your friend once I arrive in Portugal in September

  • @VoltaireMM
    @VoltaireMM Před 6 měsíci

    CONSTITUTION OF THE PORTUGUESE REPUBLIC
    Article 13
    (Principle of equality)
    1. All citizens possess the same social dignity and are equal before the law.
    2. No one may be privileged, favoured, prejudiced, deprived of any right or exempted from any duty for
    reasons of ancestry, sex, race, language, territory of origin, religion, political or ideological beliefs,
    education, economic situation, social circumstances or sexual orientation.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for posting! I'm sure others will find it helpful.

  • @josesena7331
    @josesena7331 Před rokem +2

    Hey Angelica how you doing?,i was born in portugal, i will teach you how to move in portugal and how to speak portuguese,dont worry 👍🏿

  • @antonioribeiro6119
    @antonioribeiro6119 Před rokem +4

    gostei de te ouvir. Discordo de algumas coisas sobre o sexismo mas ... bem... sou português

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +2

      Sim, obrigada António. É muito fácil não ver o sexismo, etc... mas eu experimento, desculpe.

  • @anibalvalente3017
    @anibalvalente3017 Před rokem +6

    I agree 99% of everything you said, untill you said that some people might say, ''You're in Portugal, speak Portuguese.'' I was born in Portugal in 1960 n my parents brought me to USA when i was 11 in 1971. I visit Portugal every 7 or 8 years and as you know most people do speak English. But if you don't have their respect to learn 5 r 6 words in Portuguese as ''Voce fala ingles?'' = Do you speak English? and you start speaking English to them as if you're in USA or England. IT"S AN INSULT TO THEM N THEIR/OUR MOTHERLAND. Go to France and see how pissed off they get if you speak English to them w/out asking them ''VOUS PARLAIS INGLAIS?''...I love ur video and you'll love PORTO when you go there.....CIAO.

    • @captivatedlunt1895
      @captivatedlunt1895 Před rokem +1

      You’re spelling those French words wrong btw

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před rokem +1

      I'm happy I know much more Portuguese than when I first arrived. Also, I am really looking forward to my experience in Porto too, I can imagine how nice it will be! Thank you for mentioning!

  • @SB-gy2vx
    @SB-gy2vx Před 18 dny

    4:36 no one will treat you badly just because your black, we have a really long relationship with African Countries and Brasil. For example, in terms of music, you're gonna hear a LOT of African and Brasilian stuff all around Portugal. So, as long your not dealing with some racist piece of sh*t (who exist in every Country, let's be honest), you should be just fine!

  • @quantumeseboy
    @quantumeseboy Před 7 měsíci +1

    In Sweden it was probably not negative, but in Russia it was, I know Russia, you don't want to be black or any minority in Russia. Russia is the second most racist country I know after China.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci

      I had the opportunity to visit both China and Russia, and you could be absolutely right - that in Sweden, it was mostly not negative (which seems to be very true based on the comments on my "black in Sweden" video). Interestingly though, in Russia and China, the stares I received seemed more friendly. I'm not suggesting that people in Russia and China were necessarily thinking positively, but outwardly, their stares appeared friendlier compared to those in Sweden. I believe it might be attributed to social culture, as Swedes tend to be more reserved with their feelings and maybe Russians and Chinese aren't as much (my frail opinion). These are just my personal observations, and I acknowledge that I can't read someone's mind. Unless there's a conversation, I subconsciously form some of my opinions based on how I'm looked at and I am sure anyone would do the same. I think it boils down to individual experiences and cultural nuances, don't you think?

  • @legitmd7118
    @legitmd7118 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Beautiful girl how do i get there

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před měsícem

      I think the better question is: what is it you want to do?

  • @joaoeduardo7398
    @joaoeduardo7398 Před 10 měsíci

    I don't know what color you use. I like blue, sky blue.

  • @pequenofp
    @pequenofp Před rokem +1

    First you are very beautiful, and second you'r very beautiful 🤣

  • @michaelikwele3448
    @michaelikwele3448 Před 10 měsíci

    Hi

  • @hofAMVS
    @hofAMVS Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think the tension you talking about is more so about the fight against globalization, people will tell you to speak portuguese in Portugal, bc most of the tourists make no effort in learning portuguese and just start speaking English to portuguese people as if that is the standard everywhere...
    But if we see you trying to speak portuguese we'll definitely appreciate your effort and help you or try to help in English, its really just a matter of effort in respecting one's language, if i went to Jamaica id love to try and speak pattois bc i respect your identity and your people ...

  • @tonymedeiros5515
    @tonymedeiros5515 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Racism exists no matter where you go like if the white man went to Africa I'm sure that he will experience racism there too

    • @lisiaetv5478
      @lisiaetv5478 Před 4 měsíci

      Race is a social construct created by European's that "went to" Africa....that's why there is such a thing as racism.

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 3 měsíci

      Yes, sure.

  • @natashawilson7952
    @natashawilson7952 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm so happy that you've had a mostly great experience in Portugal! It's dismaying to hear women state that they are not Feminists. Feminism is simply the belief that women are worthy of respect, equal treatment and regard. Men can and should be feminists too!

    • @ShauntelAngelica
      @ShauntelAngelica  Před 2 lety +8

      Thank you, Natasha! I share those views too, but I don't take on the label of a "feminist".

    • @Anonymous-hd9yi
      @Anonymous-hd9yi Před rokem +1

      Feminism is misleading in that it now divides men and women. Feminism also affects men who already respect women. I’d say women and men are more divided now than at any point in history.

    • @carlin_agyei
      @carlin_agyei Před rokem

      Shut up

    • @sugadre123
      @sugadre123 Před rokem +1

      I think unfortunately the original and purest intentions of feminism has transformed into something else which is why there is now a negative connotation attached to it. I definitely believe that women are worthy of respect, equal treatment and regard but feminism now widely means that women are perfect(always right) and men are crap(always wrong).

    • @Arginne
      @Arginne Před 9 měsíci

      The word has now become loaded though because of the association with extremism, misandry and radicalism. People dont want to associate themselves with such things now even though the original meaning is what youve said its now taken on a life of its own.

  • @jprv1160
    @jprv1160 Před 10 měsíci

    We Still Have Same Racist ANIMALS Of Course
    Just Like Everywhere
    But I Feel Really Happy You Have Not Experienced It Til Now
    Feel Welcome Great Black Beauty
    By The Most Inclusive People In The Whole World
    Dragon Of Thruth
    Por Tu Graal

  • @SiRcErOn_YuLmEr
    @SiRcErOn_YuLmEr Před měsícem

    Interesting. But I heard that Brazilians complain a lot about xenophobia against them.

  • @FURYWORLDx
    @FURYWORLDx Před 3 měsíci +1

    New sub 🩶

  • @powerblades
    @powerblades Před 9 měsíci +1

    I don’t even know how to discuss race…