Eurorack SEM filter comparison
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Looking at several eurorack clones of the Oberheim SEM filter, including:
- Doepfer A-106-5 SEM type VCF
- God's Box Humpback
- Studio Electronics SEM
- Plankton Electronics Spice VCF
- Bubblesound Dual SEM20
How crazy, I had an A-106-5 delivered around the same time you posted this video. Thanks for this series.
That Humpback sounds incredible!
Thnx very much - exactly the kind of comparison I was looking for!
And wat a sweet sounding VCO's, too, those 3340's :)
I think the SE filter expects a higher voltage envelope to open completely. Which is something for potential owners to keep in mind when considering it. But the feature set is fantastic. Attenuverters for both the frequency and resonance CV inputs, and both input and output gain.
To me the one in the middle soudns the best. It's clearer then others and when you turn down the cutt off you can really cut out the frequencies
I would love to hear a notch or bandpass sweep with that 2-pole fizzle
Jeff Farr SEM VCF that was...not sure if it still is...available at Synthcube is really good. I still have one.
don't know if its these filter modules themselves, or something
else at play (vca, the psu, or gain staging elsewhere), but i find
this whole demo has a subtly pinched, verge of distorted quality.
almost like there was lack of headroom.
to start, i have to say real SEM sounds nothing like this. its a far
healthier, cleaner yet warm analog sound. its resonance liquid, its
top end silky and sweet - not distorted and dry like here.
what confuses further is, i used to have standalone Boomstar Sem
too, and while its character is tad different to obie, it still sounded
way cleaner and nicer than the module version does in this test.
anyways, i was also looking for the classic sem tone for my portable
euro case, and the closest i have found, when comparing to my original
units, is Moogah Sem, by Jeff Farr. not skiff friendly and diy only,
but such a lovely sound ..
What you're hearing is most likely the CZcams compression. Unfortunately every vid that gets uploaded has to go through their compressor, which strips out a lot of detail. Makes subtle audio comparisons hard, which is why I tend to focus on differences between modules, which usually make it though the compression, rather than subtleties of quality.
Does any of them accepts cv input for modulating from low pass to high pass? Thanks!
Hello ! Where did you find these beautiful blue knobs for the Doepfer ?!
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thanks for the comparison! what were the source voices tho?
3 Electrosmith 3340 VCOs.
would have been better if you had approached this like your distortion shoot out, it's easier to gauge with real time tweaking
Not sure I understand which aspect you're referring to. The moving of the cables from module to module?
@@JohnSchussler your videos are excellent btw, sat and watched your entire channel last night :-) so instead of setting filter parameters in an almost static manner and switching, I personally find the method you use to demo/compare other modules much more real worldly. For example, tweaking the settings, opening up filters, closing filters, increasing the res, then tweaking and twiddling etc etc... then switching to the next module, obviously you don't have to listen to my feedback, but I found your method for the wave shapers and distortion modules much more helpful for understanding how they sound.... Also for VCO's could you demo wave form outputs in isolation rather than summing all of the outputs, it would be nice to hear how just the square or ramp or sine wave sounds instead of all of them at once?
Respectfully disagree. When comparing subtle differences in similar modules like this, it's easier for me to get a sense of the variations when they are A/B'ed at matched settings like he does here.
Gemini 2412
Yeah, wish I had one to test...
@@JohnSchussler with your personal experience, do you have any preference among those you tested?
@@guilhermerocha1555 The Bubblesound, but it has an MS-20 drive circuit in it as well so technically it's not pure SEM. After that probably the SE, and then close behind the Humpback. The Doepfer is good, but I found its drive a little grainy. And the Plankton doesn't really have drive at all.
Studio electronics XD
Topic was very inzetesting, but I thought the comparaison will be made with music. Sorry to say, but this sequence is so annoying, I couldnt listen more then 15 sec.