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TR&CI 135: Stop Running Academy Manufactor For These 2 Commanders - It Has A Negative Interaction
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- In this episode of Tough Rules & Cool Interactions, I will be talking about a card that sees way too much inclusion in decks because the card seems like it has a great beneficial interaction with the Commanders but it actually has a negative interaction that can mess up the gameplan of your deck.
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EDHREC is great for players to find cards for their decks, but it can also be an ech chamber that feeds itself the same cards over and over, even when those cards are nonbo cards. Thanks for this one.
Oh, for sure. I love that EDHREC exists for how it can help players, especially newer players that don't have all these older cards memorized like me, but it can lead to bad cards getting on the list initially and then they stick around because people just scroll the list and add things because they're on there... like the Manufacturer.
I don't expect for every player to spend a a bunch of hours scrolling through dozens of very specific Scryfall searches, that's crazy to think about for most players of course. In that, it is nice that EDHREC exists, but you're right that it creates an echo chamber of ideas and can stagnate the creative additions to a commander.
You nailed the ungoliant pronunciation!
Wait, for real? Cool beans!
One of the guys at my LGS has a Shelob deck and runs the Manufacturer, none of us knew this. He's gonna be crushed because the effect was so good.
Aww, that sucks. At least he has a nice Manufacturer for trade now, or he can add it to a different deck that gets a lot more benefit from it.
Commenting for the algorithm. I love this kind of content. I love the deep dives into a commander's intricacies and deck techs and the like. This is fantastic short form content that fills that itch
@@DontWatchjustforstor Thanks a bunch for the kind words. I really appreciate that. And yeah, as a very small channel, I very much appreciate the comment for the algorithm. I hope you continue to enjoy all the future videos. The well is very deep for complexities in Magic.
Great video! Glad I cut it from my Vraska the Silencer deck
@@gemmafire8628 Ah, yeah, I didn't even know she existed. Too many cards to keep track of.
Sad Manufacturer noises 😔
Sad Robot 2.0
Wow, that's a big percentage.
Yeah, I have had this one on my list of episodes for a long time because I expected the number to reduce more, but it didn't and it's been a while since these Commanders released. So yeah, I was quite surprised to see it still that high.
Ha! The rules citation in the description. Didn't expect to see that. I took am excited for Deadpool but I've never heard of Longlegs. I will check it out. Is it about spiders?
I hope you saw the trailer now, it looks really interesting. I love thrillers and I've tried to avoid seeing too much so as not to spoil anything.
One the same vein as this: you should make a video on the interaction between Esix, Fractal Bloom and Academy Manufactor! I had this "combo" in my Lonis deck and wondered why so few people used it on edhrec then got humbled by learning how it actually works.
Do you pick the order of replacement so that you make a token of some sort, like a Treasure, and then have the Manufactor replace that to make the 3 different tokens, and then have the Esix replace that so that you create 3 tokens of one of your creatures? If so, then yeah, that's pretty dang solid.
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Nope, that's the catch! I assumed that was how it worked as well, but you have to apply esix BEFORE everything else, and if you don't you lose your chance to ever apply it again for the rest of the turn. The result is thus either:
- You apply esix, make a copy of a creature enter, but then manufactor doesnt see a clue and therefore doesnt make the two extra tokens;
- or you dont apply esix, you get the three tokens as normal but lose the esix trigger.
I had no idea replacement effects even had an order you could apply some of them in! It was genuinely heartbreaking to learn but imo it would be a fun topic for a video, it's a pretty unintuitive interaction and I think thats why esix is still in like 30% of lonis decks on edhrec, it's pretty mediocre without this after all.
@@luccooooo Awww poo! I couldn't trick you up, and very well done. I actually just did a video in June talking about the hierarchy of Replacement Effects, but it was covering specifically 616.1g and the whole Esix thing applies earlier in 616.1c. And yes, I'll for sure be making a video covering this, in fact the title of that video back in June includes that it is Part 1 in a mini-series of videos dedicated to this hierarchy of REs.
Play Peregrin Took + Nuka Cola Vending Machine
And draw your deck
Oh yeah, that'll work. Makes you wonder why WotC didn't put a restriction on the Vending Machine. Like, they have clearly gotten the message that these tokens have become a little problematic, having them enter tapped on some of the recent effects and placing limitations on how often they can be made on other effects... but then they seem to forget all that and they go back to having them enter untapped and with no cap on them.
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The problem is more that Peregrin Took can sacrifice tapped food too
@@Hanmacx For sure, it's quite a good card. Food stuff got a massive boost from that set.
Manufactor. Not manufacturer. I curse WOTC every day for not actually calling it manufacturer, since that's what I call it, you call it, and we all want to call it. But no. It's manufactor. Lol.
Holy crap, look at that, it is. What's that thing, the Mandela Effect, my brain has straight up just read it as Manufacturer and I have pronounced it as that as well since I've seen the card. And yeah, every player I've ever heard say it has said the "urer". Thanks for the note, I'll update the title.
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Yeah hahaha. Berenstein vs Berestain bears all over again lol
@@Krydax8 The human brain is a crazy puzzle and works in wild ways.