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  • @greggibson33
    @greggibson33 Před 8 měsíci +251

    Science has also concluded that 'Load Management' is the same as 'Getting Paid To Do Nothing.'

    • @knggullah8079
      @knggullah8079 Před 8 měsíci +12

      😂

    • @CosmicDK
      @CosmicDK Před 8 měsíci +21

      Players found a way to make a insane amount of money for doing nothing but sitting on the bench

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 Před 8 měsíci +13

      ​@@CosmicDKgreg POPOVICH created Load Management yet Kawhi gets mocked for doing it yall love Greg

    • @dwaynelee1789
      @dwaynelee1789 Před 8 měsíci +1

      That is absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂

    • @steve48
      @steve48 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Do you get PTO at your job??

  • @D.Wagner2
    @D.Wagner2 Před 8 měsíci +44

    Incredible how science always changes when money is on the line.

    • @obynoomere1280
      @obynoomere1280 Před 8 měsíci +2

      😂😂😂

    • @otisthomas9976
      @otisthomas9976 Před 8 měsíci

      The moves they doing ain't the same Jordan back a player down well anyone at the ymca can do that. Now go do a in and out and step 2ft for a 3 pointer.

    • @-ac-8296
      @-ac-8296 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@otisthomas9976delusional 🤡

    • @seanfraser8456
      @seanfraser8456 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@otisthomas9976in and outs was being done 40 years ago. Stop it

  • @josejr.garcia2228
    @josejr.garcia2228 Před 8 měsíci +48

    People forget that Popovich did the load management because his players were older. And let’s be honest, you don’t recover as fast the older you get. Now players are sitting just to take a day off.

    • @mordakie3805
      @mordakie3805 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you! he only did it to older players kawhi, tony, danny green, mills, never got load managed

    • @enigma13ff
      @enigma13ff Před 8 měsíci

      @@mordakie3805 I'm ok with lebron playing 65 games, he earned that and get injured just playing 50+ games. When guys sit out because they don't feel like playing is what pisses people off.

    • @992porter
      @992porter Před 8 měsíci

      Right. Plus he knew they only had a year or 2 to try and get one more ring. He wanted to save them. Which made sense.

    • @TheBongReyes
      @TheBongReyes Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@mordakie3805until Kawhi took the idea and literally chilled at home for entire seasons.

    • @bigpoppa6658
      @bigpoppa6658 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes because their influencer events are more important (🤯

  • @randomthought6681
    @randomthought6681 Před 8 měsíci +47

    If youre a player and you want load management then let’s reduce the schedule by 15% and lower the salary cap significantly as a result and viewers wont have an issue. You play less, you get paid less money. Sounds like a fair exchange to me. 8:56 Robs idea 💡 is perfect

    • @karlanthonymargate7362
      @karlanthonymargate7362 Před 8 měsíci +1

      This is the problem of the NBA marketing it's individual superstars and not the team. If I were a San Antinio fan and found out that LeBron or Durant or Leonard or Curry will not be playing against my team because they're on load management, I would be stoked because it's an easy W and we can also have our guys rest after the third quarter.
      You punish teams doing load management by beating and embarrassing them on the floor.

    • @jasonpierre6108
      @jasonpierre6108 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@karlanthonymargate7362Basketball culture has always thrived on superstars there’s only 5 guys on there court per team at a time. It’s marketed that way because thats what the people want. I became a heat fan because d wade was my favorite player the stars draw most fans to the team nba is not the nfl if the stars die the league dies plain and simple.

    • @rodrahama2344
      @rodrahama2344 Před 8 měsíci

      maybe your boss should reduce your pay too, you take sick days, vacation days, weekends and Holidays

    • @randomthought6681
      @randomthought6681 Před 8 měsíci

      @@rodrahama2344 Really? You seriously think so? Not sure about you bud, but I work YEAR ROUND. They work for a grand total of 6 months. But if you enjoy watching primetime games with zero super stars playing, please, Im not stopping you, feel free to continue to advocate for men who make more than your entire generation would make in one year. Case closed...thank you for stopping by sir, be sure to pick up treats on your way out.

  • @corpyhogan4433
    @corpyhogan4433 Před 8 měsíci +67

    I’m glad the media is finally giving the Spurs the rightful blame they deserve for pioneering load management. This goes as far back as 2013 when they rested their stars against the heat.

    • @chrisdavis4945
      @chrisdavis4945 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Nobody told y'all to copy us just because we did it while winning with no player going over 30 minutes per game

    • @sokit2em
      @sokit2em Před 8 měsíci +7

      They got away with it because they were winning and their big 3 was older
      It definitely became a bigger issue once players in their prime started to load manage

    • @karlanthonymargate7362
      @karlanthonymargate7362 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@chrisdavis4945not even sure if it's the Spurs who came up with that idea. I remember watching the Jazz under Sloan and yes Stockton didn't sit out games. He played 82 games but he was clearly on minutes restriction during the regular season when he was already a bit older.
      He would start games but no matter what the score was or whether hew was playing good or bad, like clockwork, Howard Eisley would come in and finish the quarter.
      And btw, people forget that when Pop sat out his starters for that Miami game, they still almost won that game.

    • @Bran-Da-Don
      @Bran-Da-Don Před 8 měsíci +2

      Without load management Tim Duncan retires at 34 because he had a bad knee since he was 26. The whole process started to preserve Tim for the playoffs.
      They just need to mandate that players don't take off nationally televised games (ESPN, ABC, TNT etc.)

    • @eazye210
      @eazye210 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Go 20 plus years with 50 plus wins then you can rest whoever you want LMAO.

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 Před 8 měsíci +14

    How many times did all time greats like Jordan, Kobe, Kevin Garnett, and so on play 80+ games ? Majority of their careers. Science has proven NBA Players are softer than ever, emotionally and physically. Whether it's crying about the "old media " or not getting their flowers or player empowerment, which is a nice way of saying "when I'm not living up to my contract I can demand a trade to any team I want , usually a top seeded team ironically"

    • @mrcoolguy2530
      @mrcoolguy2530 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Beautiful 👏🏽

    • @rollind2456
      @rollind2456 Před 8 měsíci

      And people talk about how it’s unfair that it can cause great players to have shorter careers. To me the long term durability of a player is part of the whole process.

  • @ExposetheManosphere
    @ExposetheManosphere Před 8 měsíci +23

    I'll never forget being at the Cavs-Warriors game in Cleveland where the entire starting lineup sat out. I know fans will say, "But they had a back-to-back." But this dismissal ignores the fact that most people buy tickets in advance, and the game was advertised early on in the season.

    • @hamdeali53
      @hamdeali53 Před 8 měsíci

      When was this? What year

    • @corpyhogan4433
      @corpyhogan4433 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@hamdeali53 2021 I believe. Draymond, Steph, and Klay all sat out on purpose

    • @kelj4517
      @kelj4517 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @ExposetheManosphere
      That’s where the fans get it wrong!
      Fans voluntarily donate their hard earned money to the NBA for what? Bragging rights 🤣
      The NBA only cares about 💰!
      Going to a NBA game is a want not a need!

    • @otisthomas9976
      @otisthomas9976 Před 8 měsíci +1

      But your ticket say Cavs or warriors not LBJS or Currys on the ticket. It's 12 to 15 people on the roster so who is nobody

    • @ExposetheManosphere
      @ExposetheManosphere Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@hamdeali53January 2023

  • @atlien1988
    @atlien1988 Před 8 měsíci +16

    Broussard acting like LeBron routinely played 82 games earlier in his career is hilarious considering he's only done it once 🤣

    • @sokit2em
      @sokit2em Před 8 měsíci +8

      true, but i think Lebron has played no less than 75 games like 9 times or something. Not giving him praise or anything.
      Just saying In general, if superstars only missed 7 games in a season, that’s not too bad tbh.

    • @jmoney4220
      @jmoney4220 Před 8 měsíci +1

      He played the majority of games most years.

    • @mg19cal
      @mg19cal Před 8 měsíci

      Okay then, if LeBron is a serial load manager, then doesn't that make his scoring record that much more impressive if he's quote-unquote "missed all these games?"🤔🤔

    • @JM-qn3tf
      @JM-qn3tf Před 7 měsíci

      @@sokit2emmissing 7 games & not being hurt is bad

  • @Ex-OTIC
    @Ex-OTIC Před 8 měsíci +46

    Rob’s suggestion is a great idea. If you’re “hurt” then no problem but you have to miss the following 2 or 3 games after the one you missed. It gives the player sufficient time to “recover” from said injury and to the load managers let’s see how many times they’ll sit out with the new minimum game stipulations for end of season awards.

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +4

      Don't know if that works I'm ok with a guy taking 1 game a year. Seems they already take 3 games off at a time now. Just stop paying them if they're injured. Players will make sure to be healthy then.

    • @kevinmanginelli6932
      @kevinmanginelli6932 Před 8 měsíci +9

      ​@@JimBrave-ri1ocso punish the guys who are actually hurt? That's a stupid idea lmao

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@kevinmanginelli6932 If you stop going to work for a year would your boss still pay you? you're stupid. you want to reward players that always get hurt. I'm saying guys like DAK who is clearly broken down and not the same athlete anymore after all his injuries. Did the Cowboys do the right thing and Sign another QB to a Contract. No they gave Dak 500 Billions dollars and rewarded an Injured QB. That also happens in the NBA now. Paying players more and more money who always get hurt. So you were for giving Kristaps 30 million a year. That is what you're saying.
      The Next Contract should reflect the Health of the Athlete. They are OVER PAYING GUYS THAT ARE have never played even 60 games in a season.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 8 měsíci +1

      This is such a dumb idea

    • @Royal10123
      @Royal10123 Před 8 měsíci

      They’ve weaponized this “science” word in such a way .. that the ignorant will believe anything the media says.

  • @ishaq72681
    @ishaq72681 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This is the best answer I've ever heard to combat load management. FANTASTIC idea. Sit out 10 days for every day you need to take off. FANTASTIC

  • @theprofessor3961
    @theprofessor3961 Před 8 měsíci +46

    Facts! My 9 year old son is a big Lebron fan, they were playing Nets last year and they just played Philly. Went to the game Lebron and Anthony Davis sat out, why? Because of load management. My son was very disappointed and I spent a grip for them tickets. 😒. Very disappointed and made me not really want to pay a premium for tickets anymore

    • @kelj4517
      @kelj4517 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I definitely understand your frustration because you spent your hard earned money for your son to see his favorite player. At the same time the NBA only cares about 💰 at the end of the day! Fans donate their hard earned money to these franchises but don’t get anything in return.

    • @frankr111th
      @frankr111th Před 8 měsíci +2

      If I recall correctly, the reason he sat out that Nets game is because he wanted to play at the Garden against the Knicks the next night.

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@frankr111thdang that’s messed up.

    • @theprofessor3961
      @theprofessor3961 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@frankr111th you are correct and to my surprise they were suited up 😡

    • @Be.authentic_
      @Be.authentic_ Před 8 měsíci +2

      You got ripped off. Plain and simple. They don't care. You are one of countless fans now former fans that has been conned. Many more will be conned sadly. The NBA knows what it's doing. I support the NFL more now than the NBA diva show. Load management has made me not too excited for this year's NBA season. Seriously I don't have my hopes up.

  • @JimBrave-ri1oc
    @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +9

    They should only be paid for how many Games and Minutes they play. Tired of bench players making 20 Million per year and averaging only 15 minutes with 4 ppg and 3 rebounds. yet they make the most money per minute in the NBA. More than S Gildeous as example. A Bad bench player MAKES MORE than Lebron and Giannis. So the Math is all off on how they pay players now. Back then a SuperStar would make 5-6 Million per year and a bad bench player would make 300,000 A good bench player would make 900,000 That is still 1/6th of a Superstar. Now they have bench players making 20 million and the Top players making 50 Million. Well that is 2/5ths. Bench players make way too much now and bench players are not nearly as good as they were in the 1990's.

  • @newagestudios408
    @newagestudios408 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I mean that’s obvious lol just look at how the older players used to play 82 games like it was nothing. We never seen guys get so many ACL and Achilles injuries like they do now.

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 Před 8 měsíci +1

      They play year-round is part of it, at least back in the day The Off Season actually meant an OFF season.

    • @blackwulf8793
      @blackwulf8793 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Rodman would go 100% percent every game and then get on the exercise bike while on the bench.

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@samfolkestad1726 or play different things. When I was a kid we played baseball in the summer, football in the fall and basketball in the winter, maybe track or something in the spring.

    • @jmoney4220
      @jmoney4220 Před 8 měsíci

      The game bad then was different. It’s much easier for let’s say John Stockton to not get hurt than it would be for Derrick Rose. They weren’t nearly the athletes that players are today.

  • @craigjohnston5781
    @craigjohnston5781 Před 8 měsíci +41

    Science never "supported load management." It's literally an unfalsafiable claim, so science can't truly prove or disprove load management helping or hurting or having no impact at all on injuries.
    I will say that the idea that doing less prepares your body better has always seemed kind of absurd to me.

    • @km_1911
      @km_1911 Před 8 měsíci +3

      It’s not unfalsifiable. You can easily do a few studies showing whether or not there’s a correlation. Seems they have enough data to conclude there aren’t any or aren’t enough to justify it.

    • @zroysum
      @zroysum Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@km_1911 I don't understand why someone would think that's an unfalsifiable claim. Proving it has no effects at all would be impossible but proving it doesn't lead to less time missed from injuries is pretty easy.

    • @craigjohnston5781
      @craigjohnston5781 Před 8 měsíci +4

      You can do studies that could suggest correlation, but causation is impossible to prove. Injuries are too random. There are too many variables that could never possibly be accounted for, and hence, you can only ever make estimations never verifiable conclusions.

    • @johndenver7035
      @johndenver7035 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Kinda like saying the covid vaccine saved lives

    • @enigma13ff
      @enigma13ff Před 8 měsíci

      @@johndenver7035 Except thats 100% factual.

  • @Rome_22
    @Rome_22 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Its sad that we got to this point. Its all about the money. The love for the game is disappearing. MJ and Kobe have left the Chat. ✌🏽

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah Jordan became a multibillionaire by not caring about money.

    • @FGrecoJR
      @FGrecoJR Před 8 měsíci +3

      @georgeprchal3924 You really think the guys these days care as much about the game as Jordan and Kobe? You crazy.

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 Před 8 měsíci

      @@FGrecoJR oh he did. Very much so. But he also really likes money. They call him Mr Jordan at the bank.

    • @RealSerie26
      @RealSerie26 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@georgeprchal3924You completely missed the point. He loved to win more than he loved money. Tom Brady was the same way. Wouldn't you know it, 13 titles between those 2.

    • @devontacosby8593
      @devontacosby8593 Před 2 měsíci

      @@RealSerie26mj took time off twice 😂 Tom Brady used deflated footballs 🤷‍♀️😂 that’s not love for the game

  • @Ysoserious1
    @Ysoserious1 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Load management never held up, players get injured now more than any era ever

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      Damn straight. Players don’t practice and pumping the iron no more.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      @@samfolkestad1726 just look at Michael jordan the bad boys Pistons was bullying that dude and then when the summer hit he hit the heavy weight room and pumped that iron and the rest is history.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      @@samfolkestad1726 players nowadays play more video games than being in the gym pumping the iron.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      @@samfolkestad1726 I would do kick boxing before games started

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      @@samfolkestad1726 damn straight dawg

  • @meech3889
    @meech3889 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Not practicing, not lifting weights. I remember Lavar ball said lonzo never was hurt when he was with him. He said I had them boys pumping iron, now they doing band workouts and look what’s happening. Your body breaks down you have to lift weights during the season not no bands

  • @steve13191
    @steve13191 Před 8 měsíci +5

    the problem is there is no incentive to play regular season. in other sports ie more developed sports european football the regular season is the star, there is no play off. the incentive is to take every game seriously. it matters. in nba sadly they dont. play off is destroying the sports. it is self sabotage

  • @FGrecoJR
    @FGrecoJR Před 8 měsíci +11

    The biggest problem is to many teams make the playoffs. So a regular season win or loss has lost its value. No need to try hard in the regular season when everyone makes the playoffs.

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +12

      the play in is horrible. It makes all the games mean nothing for teams now.

    • @FGrecoJR
      @FGrecoJR Před 8 měsíci +4

      @JimBrave-ri1oc I agree. Go back to 8 teams not 10. The other problem is these guys get paid so much money and guaranteed money that what's the point in caring until the playoffs?

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@FGrecoJR Also Bench players get paid WAY TOO MUCH MONEY EARLY ON so they quit and stop trying to get better for their Family. They are happy making 24 million a year averaging 2 ppg and 1 rebounds per game in 15 minutes and NOT TRYING!!!!!!!!!!
      SO Many Young Bench Players NEVER RISE UP ANYMORE in their 3rd or 4th season to become a 18 ppg 9 rebounds player and actually EARN THEIR MONEY!!!!

    • @Jay1Whitten1
      @Jay1Whitten1 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@FGrecoJR what are you talking about only 8 teams make the playoffs

    • @Jay1Whitten1
      @Jay1Whitten1 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Load management not the problem with the play its the teams not practicing

  • @ronaldbolton7338
    @ronaldbolton7338 Před 8 měsíci +1

    In regards to starting pitchers, I remember when they used to say that when a Gibson or Drysdale were starting the announcers would state- You'd better get to this guy early or you won't get to him at all. And in most cases that was true. Often today you will see guys with no-hitters get pulled in like the 7th inning. Crazy!

  • @CBrown
    @CBrown Před 8 měsíci +1

    Rob pitching my idea from like 4 years ago 😂👌🏾👍🏾

    • @jmoney4220
      @jmoney4220 Před 8 měsíci

      You had a horrible idea then and Rob has a horrible idea now

  • @zain4070
    @zain4070 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It’s not just that. The pace and area you have to cover on a per possession basis. Given the amount of 3 point shooting and the speed of play with the athleticism of these players it makes sense that they are getting more injured.

  • @patientzero291
    @patientzero291 Před 8 měsíci

    Rob Parker brought the " I used to listen to transistor radio". Damn, I thought I was old.

  • @melew25
    @melew25 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The way weightlifters and distance runners prepare is by gradually increasing the workload and then tapering off until they have to peak. This has been the method for decades and has shown itself to work. So resting right before the playoffs makes sense to me, so that you are not behind in recovery. But resting off and on throughout the season isn’t the same, that’s comparable to a consistently low level of activity and then a spike of high intensity at the end (playoffs), and there’s no way that can work effectively imo

    • @JM-qn3tf
      @JM-qn3tf Před 7 měsíci

      Resting before playoffs makes no sense either.

  • @marcjohnson4677
    @marcjohnson4677 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I feel like AAU has done more damage than the NBA. Old heads may talk about back in their day, but they didn't start playing as young or as hard as kids have for the last 20 years, and they played different sports back then. Kids bodies are all messed up now

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      I miss my era so damn much

    • @bluefalcon24
      @bluefalcon24 Před 8 měsíci +2

      They played just a much, just in parks. And with less medical advancement that's a moot point. Not playing multiple sports as old heads did is a bigger factor honestly

    • @bossplaya6069
      @bossplaya6069 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Kobe KG Allen Iverson Ray Allen Paul Pierce LeBron etc grew up playing AAU as well, stop wit the excuses…

  • @WhiteNegative
    @WhiteNegative Před 8 měsíci +1

    That Doctor analogy just makes me think we need more doctors lol wtf idgaf what you say i want my doctor well rested

  • @jayyetron5785
    @jayyetron5785 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Would’ve loved to see Chris and Rob discuss this in the greater context of labor movements in the US

  • @donniet348
    @donniet348 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The new play style of all the euro steps are putting way more stress on joints and other things in my opinion.

  • @SaharaKnows
    @SaharaKnows Před 8 měsíci +3

    Players now don’t play in any back to backs. That’s what caused load management to balloon out of control.

  • @Dryltd
    @Dryltd Před 8 měsíci +2

    The length of the season is financial but also a test of endurance. To evaluate whole team because players will get tired and you will use the bench. The length of games is to tire players.

  • @michaelbrice5169
    @michaelbrice5169 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Finally they putting a stop to this

  • @peat381low8
    @peat381low8 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Man Robs has an amazing idea. Miss a game you need to miss the next 3 since the player needed to rest or heal up.

  • @cotati76
    @cotati76 Před 8 měsíci

    My grandfather was supposed to take part in the D-Day landings but he had just fought in Africa and was feeling depressed and had anxiety so they let him stay home. With full pay of course. Thank god for military load management.

  • @nimbusgaming8370
    @nimbusgaming8370 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The NBA should offer a refund if a star sits out.Full refund if you don't go to the game and 50% refund if you go or a free store item. Also, players shouldn't be able to sit out on the road. They should sit home games. That way people who save up money to see stars come to town aren't effected.

  • @morganlee2806
    @morganlee2806 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This just in: Recent groundbreaking discoveries in science have proven that if you don't do your job, you shouldn't get paid.

  • @troysmith6190
    @troysmith6190 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I aint a doctor and will never claim to be but ever since the science load management thing came out i always thought it was b.s to me because injuries have not decreased but increased and i think its because some players sit out half a season then try to came back at the end or playoffs and go full speed think about it if you haven't played in month's and just jump right back in you are asking for a injuries just like taking a long break from working out if you start back the same way you were doing months before you will get the same result injuries because the body is not not use to the new big jump in activity

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Love Rob’s idea!

  • @escogotti1794
    @escogotti1794 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I legit stopped watching basketball prolly about 6 or 7 years ago. When I would cut the tv on get ready watch a game and 3 out of the 4 players I want to watch all on the bench resting with no injuries 😂I was like yep done with this non sense I’ll watch come playoff time only

  • @dsteele2332
    @dsteele2332 Před 8 měsíci +1

    You couldn't get me to buy an nba ticket these days honestly lol

  • @jerryyacoo1459
    @jerryyacoo1459 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think load management is beneficial for older players, but may be detrimental for younger players. On average, it has not helped make a difference decreasing injuries. I just don’t believe that it should be followed as the general rule for injury prevention. I think it should only be utilized in certain circumstances depending on a variety of factors such as age, individual player genetics, health risks, etc.

    • @JM-qn3tf
      @JM-qn3tf Před 7 měsíci

      It doesn’t benefit them dolt

    • @jerryyacoo1459
      @jerryyacoo1459 Před 7 měsíci

      @@JM-qn3tf On average it hasn’t helped younger players. But it has helped some older players like Lebron, and Duncan in their later years.

  • @HHHPedigrees
    @HHHPedigrees Před 8 měsíci +1

    What about the punishment for load management should be a one game suspension without pay. Bet the players would suddenly play 75-80 games

  • @josiahmitchell8594
    @josiahmitchell8594 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Those of us that have physical jobs don't want hear the complaints of NBA players and organizations about them needing rest. We stand or walk or lift etc 8-10 and sometimes 12hrs a day 5-6 days a week and there isn't a 3-4 month vacation either.

    • @steve48
      @steve48 Před 8 měsíci

      I think that's a little different From playing professional sports. I get your point, but that's 2 different things. Even with your physical job i'm sure you take some days off

    • @steve48
      @steve48 Před 8 měsíci

      And most athletes don't take 3 months off. They might travel for a few weeks with their family. After that it's right back in the gym to stay in shape

    • @josiahmitchell8594
      @josiahmitchell8594 Před 8 měsíci

      @@steve48 staying in shape on their own is not the same as being on team time. Some of us workout to stay in shape and go to work. And you talking about we take days off, they have 82 days of work and it's for 3hrs.

  • @thetarheel2010j
    @thetarheel2010j Před 8 měsíci +2

    The pace of the game is way too fast…

  • @720allout
    @720allout Před 8 měsíci +1

    When I hoop a lot I get so sore and when I take a break I heal . I’m not a doctor but

  • @sjaykay9884
    @sjaykay9884 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The science seems to support the economic interests of the league. Hmmmm…sounds like the “science” can say what it wants when it works in the interest of the institution

  • @gregoryevans8179
    @gregoryevans8179 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I can’t understand why these players today need load management with all the money they make and all extra stuff they have and players from the 60’s 70’s and 80’s played just about every night without half the extra stuff today’s players have.

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +3

      The players today should be able to play 82 games. I used to play everyday when I was younger. It's good for You.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      @@JimBrave-ri1ocgood for cardio

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      Even players in the 90s and 00s

  • @renewd
    @renewd Před 8 měsíci +1

    Some injuries only need 3 days to heal, not 10-12. Not a good solution.

    • @jmoney4220
      @jmoney4220 Před 8 měsíci

      It’s a horrible idea. Can’t believe people actually agree with it

  • @JimBrave-ri1oc
    @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci +3

    No Bench players today try to Rise UP and take that injured star players roster Position anymore. That is the biggest problem. The GM and owner just over pays that bench player and wants them to not cause "any Problems" by averaging 23 ppg and winning basketball while the Starting SG is out. I guarantee back in the 90's if a Starter missed 30 games his career was over cause that 23 year old Bench player will come in and average 24 ppg and Take that Job. Why do they not Rise up today. Cause the League office doesn't want them too. It's political, insurance and lawyers are involved now. The league just wants to over pay those young bench players soooooooo much that they never try again.

    • @karlanthonymargate7362
      @karlanthonymargate7362 Před 8 měsíci

      Stars resting is an opportunity for bench players to and push for a starting job.

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci

      They don't though cause they are already paid 30 million a year by year 2 so they stop trying cause a starter that has to try way more and actually play makes about the same. @@karlanthonymargate7362

  • @jmoney4220
    @jmoney4220 Před 8 měsíci

    That 4 game rule is a beyond horrible idea 😂😂

  • @karlanthonymargate7362
    @karlanthonymargate7362 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What they should do is distribute NBA revenue based on how games you've won. That would incentivies teams to field their best team everygame. It would also stop teams from tanking. Punish the teams for lossing.

  • @yodon6867
    @yodon6867 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I blame ESPN and Fox Sports. Not showing the games only one show LeBron and hating on the players. When I was a kid used to watch NBA on NBC, TNT and your local station that's how you knew who the players were and inside stuff

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I cannot wait for the NBA to come back home to NBC in 2025

    • @yodon6867
      @yodon6867 Před 8 měsíci

      @@dreamcage1801 NBC only have to put on the song. I remember when you watching basketball and OJ Simpson chase

  • @6RingzDaLacKing
    @6RingzDaLacKing Před 8 měsíci

    Facts

  • @aviava7097
    @aviava7097 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Rob had this idea for sometime now. I hope the NBA will adoped it. They can allow like 3-5 load management games.
    Idealy they will just shorten the regular season and make it more interesting.. they can add some mid seasone tornament to sell tickets - maybe 25 and below to premote young players and let the OGs rest.
    Chris premoting cocain usage 😂😂

  • @kingrambo519
    @kingrambo519 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Honestly, I think the players back in the day just didn’t take care of their bodies how guys are nowadays. Another thing is back in the days guys took pride in playing 82 games every season nowadays guys literally don’t care anymore lmao they just want to play enough to qualify for awards and money.

  • @videoorgy
    @videoorgy Před 8 měsíci

    Bout damn damn time. Now we just need some scientific data that says tanking is weak AF.

  • @randomthought6681
    @randomthought6681 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Hey with all the tech and knowledge we have now how did those cavemen back in the 80s and 90s manage to play 82?

  • @TheBongReyes
    @TheBongReyes Před 8 měsíci

    Out for a game. Miss the next 3 games…. Kawhi, Simmons… “deal!!!” 😂

  • @longhitter84
    @longhitter84 Před 8 měsíci

    All these hesi, herky jerky, over-dribbling, and euro-stepping will tear ligaments and break bones. It's the free-style that's making them injured.

  • @arielrommelbriones8948
    @arielrommelbriones8948 Před 8 měsíci

    Great analysis odd couple I agree at first I thought load management work but recent year players are getting more injuries although player who play 15 to 20 years ago have a shorter career it's probably the medical team have improved significantly to extend their career I think they need to bring back more practices to strengthen their body and also I think they should start training camp early and at least remove some of the preseason games to lessen the back to back

    • @karlanthonymargate7362
      @karlanthonymargate7362 Před 8 měsíci

      You have to consider that kids now are playing more games at the youth level and had made too much emphasis on athleticism and explosiveness. A lot of them too or doing basketball exclusively and putting stress on the same parts of the body day in and day out.
      I remember watching some of those ball family videos wherein they were doing workouts as kids and I was wondering how that would affect them in the long run.

  • @killakam8738
    @killakam8738 Před 8 měsíci

    Not just the practicing. The avg human's athleticism nowadays is off the chartds comepared to 10-15yrs ago.

  • @bondbarrybonds5774
    @bondbarrybonds5774 Před 8 měsíci

    I tried to do load management at my warehouse and now I’m working for fedex

  • @elijahlei1110
    @elijahlei1110 Před 8 měsíci +3

    doesnt matter. until they adopt a baseball rule like what they have about (if your are injured then you HAVE to miss X amount of games), then it wont matter. we are about to see a TON of "hurt" players all of a sudden. They don't care about awards. They already got their generational wealth. So the players will just miss games now from being "hurt". So...not "load management" and a mentality of "tell me i aint hurt"

    • @JM-qn3tf
      @JM-qn3tf Před 7 měsíci

      They need to get contract reduced each game missed

  • @dqsmooth34
    @dqsmooth34 Před 8 měsíci +1

    So, is it the players taking games off? Or is it management and training staff making players sit out? I'm surprised more journalists haven't got to the bottom of this.

    • @JM-qn3tf
      @JM-qn3tf Před 7 měsíci

      It’s obviously not working. More injuries than ever

  • @apothe6
    @apothe6 Před 8 měsíci

    Robs idea is great. Would also make it so fans would know in advance if a player was playing

  • @kennethcristianfonte1119
    @kennethcristianfonte1119 Před 8 měsíci

    I asked my boss for load management and instead of lowering my work load, he increased it.

  • @diegobromfield
    @diegobromfield Před 8 měsíci

    9:00 One of the rare smart takes/ ideas from Rob.

  • @Mj-uz1ng
    @Mj-uz1ng Před 8 měsíci

    Chris get some AirPods it’s 2023 😂

  • @davidwatson6525
    @davidwatson6525 Před 8 měsíci +1

    2 Employees giving their perspectives on Bosses! smh

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 Před 8 měsíci

    Kawai Leonard punching the air right now

  • @gregorygray8899
    @gregorygray8899 Před 8 měsíci

    They are getting hurt more, because they over train and specialize to soon. Also, the game is different they play faster with more erky jerk moves. Also, AAU burns them out. Not to mention they go from playing a 30-game seasons to 82 games.

  • @Jmurda1983
    @Jmurda1983 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Just make the regular season 65 games instead of 82

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci

      kids and players aren't as durable today. They need more time between games. Maybe 3 or 4 days between each game.

    • @bryansilva6306
      @bryansilva6306 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Players won’t give back money

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Před 8 měsíci

      Kids and players are coddled and spoiled

  • @joshuabroussard7839
    @joshuabroussard7839 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I always said that the NBA needs some type of PTO system paid time off for every eight games a NBA player plays he gets one game of PTO that he can take off

  • @micahbinns2740
    @micahbinns2740 Před 8 měsíci

    Also people have to stop thinking all load management is the same...taking off after 3 games and 4 nights can benefits, be sore and less than 90% can help, but just doing it just to do it and there is no real injury or something you are really dealing with makes no since.

  • @jimmyrecard4390
    @jimmyrecard4390 Před 8 měsíci

    If this is science, I'm a doctor.

  • @andreriverstheomnipotent3447

    In terms of load management, who are the great offenders? Is it young nba players or older nba players?

  • @ozonespec
    @ozonespec Před 8 měsíci +3

    Human beings in general are getting lazier.

  • @hipking23
    @hipking23 Před 8 měsíci

    How did basketball players manage back in the 90s/80s/70s etc.?

  • @Enlightenmentcircle
    @Enlightenmentcircle Před 8 měsíci

    You can do that sometimes getting 5 hours of sleep but don’t make it normal…

  • @cotati76
    @cotati76 Před 8 měsíci

    A typical football injury that players play through would bench NBA players because they find every reason to not play.

  • @jrev8089
    @jrev8089 Před 8 měsíci

    For Rob's idea, I think the teams will still take the 4 games off for their players, and even pencil in the dates as soon as they get the schedule.

  • @cotati76
    @cotati76 Před 8 měsíci

    The last two years in a row the Warriors sat all their star players when they played in Orlando. I’m not sure I would pay money to see a game anymore since there’s a decent chance you’ll be watching bench players all night. If I wanted that I’d pay a fraction of the price and go see a G League game.

  • @nahmeanson1017
    @nahmeanson1017 Před 8 měsíci

    So, it's bad for the fans that miss seeing their favorite player/s that one night they got tickets to see the game, but it's a "great idea" that 2 more fan bases are forced to go through the same thing......🤔🤔🤔😒😒😒.....

  • @realgems24
    @realgems24 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Why are you comparing a job that requires physical exertion to jobs where you can be overweight and still perform them? Come on

  • @tylertheurer9122
    @tylertheurer9122 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The NBA is jumping through all these hoops to add a stupid new tournament, a play-in game, all these rule changes to try and make the regular season more compelling.... The reason the regular season is getting less interest is there are almost no games where two good teams play each other at full strength, and so there is no chance for previews of post season matchups. Who cares if the Bucks without Giannis lose a game in December to a complete Nuggets team? What could have been an interesting finals preview becomes meaningless in the eyes of viewers. Make the players play all their games save for injury, and more people will find it interesting.

  • @JosiahHKing
    @JosiahHKing Před 8 měsíci

    There’s NEVER been any data that says that Load Management is beneficial to players.

  • @davincerica7232
    @davincerica7232 Před 8 měsíci

    You don't have to be a doctor to see at all the players' load managing and still getting hurt...

  • @lionsroar1773
    @lionsroar1773 Před 8 měsíci

    Its not about injuries, to these players. It’s about longevity. Performing at a high level in order to keep getting these massive contracts. And I would say that’s probably true, seeing players like lebron average 28 points in year 24, Kareem was averaging like 10pts a game at that point lol.

  • @andrerobertson4076
    @andrerobertson4076 Před 8 měsíci

    Uh oh them Pros gonna have to go back to work

  • @tanyasalas2763
    @tanyasalas2763 Před 8 měsíci

    I don't need to be a doctor to know this. Common Sense will tell you the Truth...

  • @AreolaGrande94
    @AreolaGrande94 Před 8 měsíci

    This is completely different from a pitch count. There is science behind that. Throwing anything 100 times in a short span of time is traumatic to one's arm/shoulder. Try it. Now imagine you do it with a violent motion with incredible velocity and spin rate.
    Taking entire games off is just taking entire games off.

  • @moses9647
    @moses9647 Před 8 měsíci

    I dunno about making guys miss three to four games if they say theyre hurt. the minimum for end of year awards makes sense because realistically it's only the players who have a chance at those awards that people care about when they sit. Forcing guys to play through acute injuries is prob bad for business. imagine player who tweaked their ankle, they have a game tomorrow and their next one after that is 5 days afterwards. You're gonna make that guy miss the next three games too? All that'll happen is guys will sub in for 30 seconds and sit back down.

  • @lokomotive28
    @lokomotive28 Před 8 měsíci

    funny how science can change and they’ll believe whatever it says

  • @jrbnyc9898
    @jrbnyc9898 Před 8 měsíci

    Rob is spot on here!

  • @BoredDior
    @BoredDior Před 8 měsíci

    I think that sports medicine has gotten to the point that something like load management isn’t necessary to achieve a long career

  • @Falloutx360a
    @Falloutx360a Před 8 měsíci

    NBA and NFL are different sports of course, but I’ve only ever heard nfl players make the off hand comment that they use to practice harder and more often with supposedly less injuries, but these days guys stay injured.

  • @nwananka
    @nwananka Před 8 měsíci

    Of course NBA will say that 😅

  • @stingrey1571
    @stingrey1571 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I love rob’s idea. It will force teams and players to rethink sitting out a game. If luka sits against the magic. Then he CAN’T play against the heat the next night.

    • @karlanthonymargate7362
      @karlanthonymargate7362 Před 8 měsíci

      So what happens if a player has a bad case of diarrhea? He sits for 3 days? Or he has to play through it and risk shifting on himself like Paul Pierce 🤣

    • @enigma13ff
      @enigma13ff Před 8 měsíci

      @@karlanthonymargate7362 Thats easy to prove, Embiid ducking Joker was a slap in the face for fans waiting to see the third matchup.

  • @shawnslawter4497
    @shawnslawter4497 Před 8 měsíci

    Idk why they associate Pop and the Spurs with this new era of guys doing load management. Tim Duncan Manu Ginobili. Tony Parker was old as hell when they took games off. Old as hell

  • @michaelbarnes2126
    @michaelbarnes2126 Před 8 měsíci

    The old adage of practicing hard makes the actual games easier is still relevant today

  • @CosmicDK
    @CosmicDK Před 8 měsíci +1

    You have to use free weights and build real muscle. It's actually very simple