So These Are The Real Emo Bands?! (Might Delete Later)
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I'm happy you gave i hate myself and the Promise Ring the love they deserve. I always imagined them to be sweet bois and I hope they're doing well 25 years later. Good vid, dude!
Literally had "Forgot Me" from the Promise Ring on repeat today!
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YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE SKIPPED PAGENINETYNINE! No way in hell am I gonna let you get away with that.
Yeah document#5 and document #8 are two of the greatest “punk” albums ever period. Call it Emo call hardcore call it screamo they are the best!!!
Mineral fake emo???? absolutely false statement.
Mineral-SDRE clone?! Absolutely!
@@bigsweetc6they sound nothing alike dawg
@@spirallsky as someone who grew up in the 90, I respectfully disagree. If you can’t hear it, well that’s on you. It doesn’t take anything away from Mineral. Great band. I loved Hoover and other Dischord bands too. Doesn’t mean they didn’t sound like Diet Fugazis.
I don't know
Wrong lmao
rites of spring as “a worse version of the ramones” is such an abhorrently offensive take that i had to pause this video and sit in silence for like thirty seconds. have you only ever heard one punk band before?
Right?
It was a joke? Lmao
If people want to look up "real emo" bands look up emotive harcore, and if you want to find "real screamo" bands look up skramz bands
Also what people called emo in the late 90s and early 2000s were actually just pop rock and pop punk bands mislabeled as emo by misinformed fans, for example mcr has stated they are a pop punk and alternative rock band and have stated they aren't an emo band and the same can be said about panic at the disco, their singer stated they aren't emo and they don't want to be associated with the image and called the genre shit and stated they were a pop rock band, and Paramore also said their music is pop punk, blink 182 said they are pop punk, taking back Sunday said they aren't emo multiple times even publicly at concerts and the used said they are just a rock band but both the used and taking back Sunday are clearly pop punk bands and show the characteristics of the genre, falling in reverse is post hardcore, metalcore, and rap metal, asking Alexandria were metalcore but are now rock, 21 pilots are pop, etc.
Also I kinda agree with the copypasta of what is and isn't real emo because whoever made it is kind of right about emo being aggressive because most punk music is aggressive and even pop punk bands even though they are toned down they still have an aggressive sound to them, for example like bowling for soup in pop punk 101
Also alot of bands mislabeled as emo usually don't have any characteristics of punk in their sound and just sound like angsty pop rock bands with no punk characteristics and no aggression like real emo bands, rites of spring sounds like real emotive hardcore, sunny day real estate sounds like real second wave emotive hardcore with indie rock influences and Jimmy eat world sounds like Midwest emo mixed with pop elements but not to the extent of the bands mislabeled as emo
And the singer of sunny day real estate said they are a fugazi post hardcore band and fugazi has the same singer as rites of spring and rites of spring is the first emo band and emo is a subgenre of post hardcore
and just saying certain genres and subgenres have certain characteristics that make them those genres in the first place and if they didn't then they wouldn't be said genres and would be something completely different and separate things in general and I know some people say gatekeepers are bad and all but think about it, they keep things pure and keep outsiders from coming in and poisoning the well and in doing so they protect everything that the genre stood for, also alot of gatekeepers are kinda like the scholars of music and the history behind it in their respective subcultures but with that said some gatekeepers are toxic and are in fact bad but not all of them, just a small minority 😁
The only real thing "real" and "fake" emo bands share in common (well atleast the pop punk bands mislabeled as emo and the actual real emo bands anyway) is that they are all punk bands
This is probably the best and most informed answer about emo. I was a teenager when all these pop punk bands being labeled as "emo" were big and back in those days I had no idea what actual emo music was. MySpace, Mall Culture (Hot Topic), and MTV really bastardized the genre with all these genre mislabelings and it's to a point where a lot of the teenagers and kids who grew up at the height of this music who are not in their 30s and/or very late 20s believe that these pop punk and pop rock bands are emo and if you try to correct and show them what real emo music is, they call you an elitist and/or a gatekeep and want to continue ignorantly believing that the bands they grew up wit hare actual emo.
It's very interesting though when you take My Chemical Romance and Paramore because My Chemical Romance started out as a post-hardcore band with their (2002) debut album "I Bought You Bullets" and had they stuck with that sound, I feel like it would've been okay to have them described as "emo-adjacent" (not emo but somewhat close) even if they weren't playing Emotive Hardcore. But as we all know, MCR jumped right into pop-punk with "Three Cheers" and the rest was history to where it's bewildering how anyone can think their music sounds remotely "emo".
Paramore's first album was also just straight up pop-punk but the atmosphere/vibe of it was not as "bouncy" (for lack of better word) compared to what you normally heard in the genre and I think this is what made people who discovered them back in 2005 (myself included) think thatthey were "emo". It doesn't help that Hayley Williams described the sound at the time as "emo but not whiny" and well looking at her cited influences, aside from Jimmy Eat World most of her inspiration doesn't come from any emotive hardcore bands at all so you know, some ignorance for sure.
In short, what you said is true and it's unfortunate that so many people will take informative comments like this as being a snobby elitist/gatekeeper when in actuality it's just helping educate and help steer people to the music that actual defines the genre.
@@KaiDecadence exactly
i think the problem with classifying music is the amount of nuance there is. a lot of songs mix genres, or the genres overlap, so trying to make a distinction between hardcore and emo would be like comparing vermillion red to tangerine orange. and its like that with a lot of closely related genres
Agree, most people think emo/pop punk for example is the same. I tried to have some fun with all that with this video!
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Really enjoyed the video!! The intro was hilarious. I definitely wish you would have included Braid, Mineral, and Rainer Maria in the list. Braid and Mineral were hugely influential to that 90s scene and Rainer Maria is, in my opinion, one of the best bands to come out of 90s emo.
I didn't want to make it tooooo long lol but yes Braid is massively underrated.
"I am gonna lose, I always do, We always doooooo"
Hey Mercedes is great as well!
Also literally the only band with a female lead singer that anyone can name from that period. Hard to get over the stereotype of emo being all about "male whine" even to this day.
Braid is really good
These original emo bands sound like what I would call “post hardcore” or “screamo” now. And Midwest emo is not my preferred genre of music. It kind of makes me ill. To me, the word emo can cover a lot of ground. If the sound has roots in punk or hardcore, I don’t mind if people call it emo.
Hearing that emo copypasta made me lose brain cells lol. Appreciate this vid, I can't stand the gatekeeping. Its all the same, they're all influenced by each other, tour with each other, listen to each other. I'm glad that theres subset genres of different emos honestly, theres something for every mood. I wouldn't consider something by a local band that formed in 2022 any less emo than something 30 years ago. Also, the argument that bc they're on the radio they aren't true emo is just hilarious. So the genre became popular and is played on radio/tv, are you seriously surprised? haha like, what?! Its so bizarre, its like saying not true rock n roll unless it was written in the 1940s/50s LOL. Weezer was the first band I ever heard/liked as a baby, they led to a lifelong obsession with emo music
Thanks for watching! It's funny I think radio had a huge chance to ingratiate itself with the scene in the 2010s. Imagine hearing Touche Amore, Title Fight, The Story So Far etc. on the radio. But radio did what radio does and stayed in the past.
weezer made me obsessed with emo too, i love pinkerton sm
No love for Jimmy Eat World? I mean, I know they went a bit far afield into alt-rock by "Bleed American" (and they consistently refused the term "emo" - but don't they all really?) but their early stuff seems pretty solidly in 2nd wave Midwest Emo & their success helped place the genre more solidily in the public eye. I was in the L.A. punk scene in the 80s & Minor Threat were my favorite band, so its kinda funny that I can't do Screamo really.
Bro all these bands are fire!
Great video, man. You deserve more views. Was that "tell all your friends" at the end a reference like I think it was? One thing I've always found odd about My Chemical Romance not being considered Emo is that their first two albums clearly were (well, they were Post-Hardcore at least).
Thanks so much for the kind words!
and actually no it wasn't lol it never hit me until now lol Tell all your friends always sounded like a nice way to end the videos because I really hope people tell their friends about the channel! But now since you brought it up I'll make that the official cannon of the channel. Thanks for watching and makedamnsure your subscribe and tell all your friends!
You're welcome. Glad I could influence the canon. I will makedamnsure for sure!
I wouldn't dismiss My Chemical Romance or Fall Out Boy as "never emo". Their later stuff isn't but if you would listen to MCR's "Bullets" (it has a longer title but its referred to as "Bullets") and FOB's "Take This To Your Grave", you can hear influences from Saves The Day, The Promise Ring, The Get Up Kids, SDRE, and Jimmy Eat World!!!
While we are on the subject on What is, What's not, and what actually is/isn't. I'd also throw in Hawthorne Heights, Senses Fail, and Mayday Parade into the "highly debatable/actually is" pile
That rites of spring comment was flawed haha
That copypasta is atrocious
The copypasta has spoken.
tbh i would say all the phases except the pop-punky 2000s one are real emo
Thanks for mentioning Ashes, one of the greatest random discoveries i found on youtube recs!
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I am still exploring this time period but so far for me the earliest thing I have heard and thought "oh yeah, that sounds like emo" is The Godfather by Dag Nasty from their July 1987 record Wig Out at Denko's
pet sound by beach boys came out in 1966. Some says thats the first emo album...
@@NeverNormal if you want to look for rock music with a punky but emotional slant then Buddy Holly was doing that in the 50's. It all depends what your ear picks out as being 'emo' which is arguably a broad church.
Nicely done!
I grew up with the Promise Ring and that album always killed me. When people talk about emo, that’s what think of every time.
Great video, I really appreciate your hard work and agree that 2000 can be used as an arbitrary stopping point. Like other commenters, I tend to like all things emo. If I were to have made this list I would have included Jimmy Eat World (probably Lucky Denver Mint), Get Up Kids, (Red Letter Day), Saves the Day (Shoulder to the Wheel), Braid (dare I list a third band from Urbana?), & The Smiths (How Soon Is Now?-you all know it belongs!).
All great bands! If we're talking Braid we gotta talk Hey Mercedes!
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As someone who was a teenager in the 90’s who loved all the DIY emo/hardcore stuff I can say with absolute certainty that the year 2000 was the end. I intuitively knew even then that bands started sounding really derivative and generic and as soon as I heard bands like Thursday etc I knew it was unrecognizable to what I initially liked-Indian Summer, Gravity bands, etc.
I would love to see some content around modern emo. Are you a fan of Spanish love songs? They are by far my favorite
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@Ryan Schilling as far as bpm goes they definitely lean pop punk but lyrics are 100% emo
Emo pop punk the best of both
I second this. I would love to see a similar video describing all the major bands of 4th wave emo
dude. thanks for the video i love all these bands and i also love current emo bands so whatever!
Thanks for the kind words!
Ehhh... i would have kept Fall Out Boy's TTTYG album up. It's regarded as Emo-Pop which is still Emo (the "pop" in Emo-pop is for pop punk, not pop music).
Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance had some serious Emo uprisings and inspirations and other bands like Hawthorne Heights, Mayday Parade, and Senses Fail happily wear the Emo crown and consider themselves as such while ACTUALLY keeping true to Emo music
God I fell for it.
Buen video! Hay muchas bandas de la escena que hacían dual vocals desde early 90s por ejemplo indian summer, breakwater, pg.99
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2:02 ik nobody asked but usually if i have time i listen to their first album
What about Paris, Texas?!
Great video! ❤️ (Love your pizza beanie)
haha Thanks!
My Chemical Romance Wal Mart emo 😂
Pg. 99 is unironically based
pageninetynine
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@@NeverNormalfun fact: sometimes they're shortened to "pg. 99"
Obviously Chief Keef is the best first wave band, Love Sosa is a emotional hit /j
Second wave emo is one of the best sub genres in the world.
I'd go back a little further and say that Dag Nasty, particularly their 1986 record Can I Say is earlier evidence of emo, or proto emo if music snobs wanna get technical
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Dag Nasty is not emo, if anything they were amplifying hate to bands like Rites of Spring and Embrace
Dag Nasty was just melodic hardcore. They were actually a reaction against the “Revolution Summer” bands and an attempt to bring back the classic DCHC sound"
That poster needs to get thier meds checked out, because they make no sense at all.
yes, yes, it is.
Dude I strongly recommend you Lazarus Plot here on youtube, amazing emo band
As someone who actually grew up in the 90’s I can honestly say genre and categorization was totally unimportant. It was all different shades of punk/hardcore/indie. To me Spazz and Promise Ring were still branches -despite being far apart on the same family tree. Whether it was Heroin, or Indian Summer, or Texas is the Reason or Drop Dead, or the Get up Kids- it was also under the umbrella of punk/hardcore.
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Yeah, I love your video man this week emails great
The pretentious "this isn't REAL *insert genre*" is so fckn annoying 😂
100% but honestly BUT Real Emo really does only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene.
If you’ve never heard of pg.99 you can’t comment on punk history! Hahaha. American football came out of cap’n’jazz. MCR is top 40 pop rock, at least the stuff everyone knows and what turned them on to the band.
The Get Up Kids??
2/24/24 4:20pm cst, earth, the milky way galaxy
*sup, future kelan* 🖤
best emo band is the pine
ITS BEEN A YEAR SINCCE I WATCHED THIS DELETE IT
Jimmy Eat World deserves a mention.
For sure, An all time great band! I actually really like newer Jimmy Eat World. Something loud and stuff from Surviving is very good. Thanks for checking out my channel!
this is rage bait right?
Jawbreaker is the only real original emo band. ❤ and the original Alkaline Trio, The Broadways (also early Lawrence Arms) Basically Chicago hardcore and Some New York hardcore bands. Although I think Emo can come from anywhere not just DC, Chicago and New York
the best emo band, could i say REAL EMO, to me is from brazil ... call... FRESNO , you need know ! mostly the 3 fisrt album ! o rio a cidade a arvore , ciano, o caso do erro i have a cover in my channel... and the front man vocalist, lucas silveira, make a solo album in english to, called beeshop
Fugazi?
Pg 99 be the best on the list wtf
rites of spring is hardcore not emo hahahahaha
You forgot the best EMO band Of all time THE USED
Blue and yellow is a jam
The Used isn’t emo + Sunny Day Real Estate is the best emo band
ain’t no way you just called the used emo
The used is pop punk lol
this is an astoundingly terrible video. really hope this is rage bait
oh my god im such an idiot. thank god I watched the rest of the video
No worries thanks for watching!
Emo is a post-hardcore and hardcore punk genre. A micro genre.. a genre within a genre within a genre within a genre
The real emo discussed is real. The fake emo discussed is fake. The fake emo is really just emo pop or pop-emo whatever you wanna call it. Emo and screamo were very painful and that guy is right… hateful. It’s like the 2nd wave of black metal for punk/ hardcore