The TikTokification of Emo Music

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    00:00 fard
    05:18 the tiktokification of music
    11:37 industry plants
    15:08 bing bong
    16:08 reimagining older genres is fun and also tricky
    19:06 the mgk travis barker effect
    27:05 the copycat phony phenomena
    30:17 sweet treat for the viewers (you)
    tags: #emo
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  • @itsgabibelle
    @itsgabibelle  Před měsícem +461

    Check out Rocket Money for free: RocketMoney.com/GABIBELLE #rocketmoney #personalfinance

    • @NyxTheRandomPerson
      @NyxTheRandomPerson Před měsícem +5

      Ok

    • @izzie.w
      @izzie.w Před měsícem +2

      thx bestieee

    • @everyoneelsemovedonfan
      @everyoneelsemovedonfan Před měsícem +1

      23:44 I only got one wrong, to be fair I KNOW blinks guitar tone like Cajuns know the bayou

    • @andrina118
      @andrina118 Před měsícem

      Your song at the end was excellent, affectionate parody at its best!

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 Před měsícem +12

      You sold me on the free version. Although paying for a premium subscription for an app which is all about reducing your monthly recurring subscription would feel kind of ironic. Hopefully you get paid either way!

  • @82licious
    @82licious Před měsícem +7402

    "resurgence of emo" and they just look like what non alt people think emos look like 😭😭

    • @jacktilghman9797
      @jacktilghman9797 Před měsícem +325

      Yeah, like, emo has definitely gone far from like Sunny Day Real Estate, emo sounds more like what 2000’s electronic pop sounded like, just a bit moodier, still the same stereotypically attractive people singing it though. Something’s don’t change I guess.

    • @katarinachiogna-solovey3560
      @katarinachiogna-solovey3560 Před měsícem +105

      ​@@jacktilghman9797emo does NOT sound like 2000s electrinic pop 😭

    • @brieoshiro
      @brieoshiro Před měsícem +17

      @@jacktilghman9797 AHHH SDRE! Love them so much!

    • @emptyeighty2
      @emptyeighty2 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@jacktilghman9797 Well, Sunny Day Real Estate is playing the "Best Friends Forever Fest", a mega festival in vegas, THIS YEAR with a huge lineup of what I would call "90s midwest emo" bands (The lineup includes: Bright Eyes, Rainer Maria, Cap'n Jazz, The Anniversary, American Football, The Get Up Kids, Piebald, plus a bunch of other bands)...so maybe there IS a "resurgence of emo"?

    • @krusher181
      @krusher181 Před měsícem +12

      @@katarinachiogna-solovey3560it definitely doesn’t sound like it’s own genre

  • @sunny1992s
    @sunny1992s Před měsícem +17219

    Not pop-punk but I want to remind you of the banger of a line "You tell your boyfriend that if he got beef, that Im a vegetarian and I ain't fucking scared of him"

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk Před měsícem +1444

      I love that line. 3OH3 are dirtbags, but that shit will always be hilarious.

    • @cat-le1hf
      @cat-le1hf Před měsícem +607

      "If we got beef, then you better bring the broccoli. Cuz beef 'n broccoli is delicious."

    • @BoobooAndre
      @BoobooAndre Před měsícem +67

      Cringeeee

    • @bexiexz
      @bexiexz Před měsícem +5

      yep!

    • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708
      @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708 Před měsícem +207

      It’s at least Pop punk adjacent I’d say

  • @SammyNail
    @SammyNail Před měsícem +512

    The bigger problem is less that it's "cringe" and more that individuality/community is dying overall. So many things are amalgamations of each other that its killing these things. Everything is starting to look and feel like waiting in line at the DMV with a bag of low-salt, low-calorie pringles. No genuine creativity, and what is genuine is having its soul beaten out of it to appease an algorithm.

    • @duskdancer7577
      @duskdancer7577 Před měsícem +21

      i wish there was more discussion about this because thats what i think the real issue is with all this

    • @corpsefoot758
      @corpsefoot758 Před 28 dny +5

      There’s plenty of originality depending on which circles you seek out, don’t worry
      I heard a new band just the other day called “Cogitations”, absolutely ferocious sound. So some form of the culture remains alive & well even now

    • @Window4503
      @Window4503 Před 13 dny +5

      That’s because originality and uniqueness have become a set aesthetic instead of a result of personal discovery. Originality used to come out of necessity and was a side effect, not a goal. Then it become a goal and people kept trying to push the envelope. Now that the envelope has been pushed and now kept in check by new social norms, the only thing left to do is emulate the superficial portions of that idea of uniqueness. So basically we’ll be stuck here until people get over themselves and use creativity for a new goal.

    • @kgbkeyboard7697
      @kgbkeyboard7697 Před 10 dny +1

      this problem is exactly why im making music now!!! i want a community to interact with that isnt so focused on optics or conformity!! that was what i used to love about the deep cringe of the past, it didnt feel like its steeped in irony

    • @Scarshadow666
      @Scarshadow666 Před 4 dny +1

      Isn't that something that has been going on for centuries technically? Emo is itself an offshoot from Goth subculture, which has it's roots in Punk and from older European styles considered Gothic and the ancient tribes famous for sacking Rome (Ostrogoths and Visigoths). As an artist myself, I've always been taught that originality never existed, and that what people can do is their own spin on things - but it doesn't negate that a lot of the things we enjoy now came standing on the shoulders of giants over the centuries.

  • @stvltiloqvent
    @stvltiloqvent Před měsícem +508

    I'm sorry but that song you did in the end kinda slaps 😭 the writing (not the lyrics but the arrangement and production) was better than some tiktok musicians ngl

    • @poisonkatz
      @poisonkatz Před měsícem +19

      i vote for a album from gabi belle

    • @lume4456
      @lume4456 Před měsícem +23

      I would unironically add it to my playlist

    • @d1tto232
      @d1tto232 Před 11 dny +3

      Then you are in the same boat than those fans in TikTok, the only difference is that somehow people watching essays think that they are more informed and intelligent than those dumb people in TikTok....

    • @ICanCreateThat
      @ICanCreateThat Před 8 dny

      Right!? It's such a bop.

    • @JustinAllegree
      @JustinAllegree Před 3 dny

      I literally came to to the comment section to say the same thing lol. I expected it to end way sooner and have way more repetitive choruses especially because it was satirical but then she just kept going and going and adding more and it all stayed on point and added to the joke lol.

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld Před měsícem +9788

    YOU MET WEEZER????

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Před měsícem +276

      i know lol that was also my reaction. I think that was supposed to be an embarrassing story, but it just made her sound even cooler 😂

    • @kenzalaachoubi3281
      @kenzalaachoubi3281 Před měsícem +408

      actually, weezer met gabi

    • @b2rad
      @b2rad Před měsícem +77

      I just looked up that Mika song Gabi used in this video and you were the top comment on there 9 months ago and now I see you here. What the

    • @oliverniemann2541
      @oliverniemann2541 Před měsícem +36

      OMG GOD GUYS ITS WEEEZER!!!!!!

    • @Ninja_cosplays
      @Ninja_cosplays Před měsícem +31

      What are you doing here i thought you were the horror guy

  • @andrewdarling1789
    @andrewdarling1789 Před měsícem +8281

    Gabi’s commitment to using footage where the mic did not pick up here singing classic cringes instead of re-shooting or re-conceptualising is one of the reasons I continue to watch her videos

    • @ethandenson7182
      @ethandenson7182 Před měsícem +250

      I wasn’t sure if it was to avoid copyright claim or not

    • @Bud_Baphomet
      @Bud_Baphomet Před měsícem +30

      its why i hit sub

    • @Gadoken1234
      @Gadoken1234 Před měsícem +12

      hear, hear

    • @DADDYSGIRL450
      @DADDYSGIRL450 Před měsícem +134

      It personally annoyed me. I couldn’t keep watching it

    • @skurptheyurp
      @skurptheyurp Před měsícem +54

      thats journalistic integrity if ive ever seen it

  • @ginj4ninj4180
    @ginj4ninj4180 Před měsícem +192

    The cutting in and out audio whilst you're singing is hilarious, I am glad you didnt decide to redo those bits

  • @FrankCosbyNo-Relation
    @FrankCosbyNo-Relation Před 17 dny +57

    The fact that you didn't mention MySpace even once is wild 😅

  • @allylollizzie
    @allylollizzie Před měsícem +2275

    8:02 “THIS IS THE HARDEST SONG WE HAVE EVER WRITTEN 👹👹 i met a girl and i really thought she liked meeee 💅💅✨🤪” vibe 😭😭

    • @tux0beliver
      @tux0beliver Před měsícem +23

      When you're pumping out all these songs it can get kinda difficult okay! No need to gatekeep 😤😤

    • @yukitty_writes
      @yukitty_writes Před měsícem +50

      not the bad girls club line 😭

    • @otsonuutilainen6489
      @otsonuutilainen6489 Před měsícem +7

      Whats wrong with bad girls club tho i dont get it i havent really seen ronnie trying to put on a fake persona or anything (i dont listen to this emo stuff so i wouldent know please inform me)

    • @yukitty_writes
      @yukitty_writes Před měsícem

      @@otsonuutilainen6489 omg you're missing all the lore... someone isn't a brad taste in music watcher 😭
      ronnie radke is like a garbage human being who beat up his ex wife (or gf?) and was arrested for his involvement in the shooting of a minor. and got all rock bands banned from six flags because he threw a microphone stand at a girl in the crowd for no reason. he's also a huge fan of tom mcdonald, who's a grifter that espouses right wing talking ponts, bullies people online, makes fun of trans people and acts like a giant man baby.
      beyond that, falling in reverse is just mad tacky. his voice was super fake and overenuciated just to play into the pop punk aesthetic (which he admitted) and one of their albums has a album cover of a girl in crazy short shorts and he said he made it just to be commercially popular. their first two albums quite possibly can be considered some of the worst aged ones of the early 2010s especially with his goofy rapping. 😭

    • @gish_
      @gish_ Před měsícem

      @@otsonuutilainen6489uh bad

  • @Kat_cant_draw
    @Kat_cant_draw Před měsícem +3443

    I hate the way some of these cringe pop punk guys sexualise goth women.

    • @ZzzBliss
      @ZzzBliss Před měsícem +330

      Tru but I think the Tx2 videos they're just trolling the fetishism. The dude is literally a professional troll lmao

    • @8UBB13GUM
      @8UBB13GUM Před měsícem +47

      Yeah lol, I love Tx2

    • @samthorne3765
      @samthorne3765 Před měsícem +78

      @@ZzzBliss Is that really it? Or is Tiktok's Premier Poser just crying behind a mask of "I don't care what anyone thinks I swearrrrrrr"

    • @sigma2653
      @sigma2653 Před měsícem +87

      @@samthorne3765 No, he's trolling

    • @ZzzBliss
      @ZzzBliss Před měsícem

      @samthorne3765 yeah nah he's trolling. He's actually chill... I talked to him once and he listened to my music and was Hella encouraging ab it.

  • @despairingdreamer
    @despairingdreamer Před měsícem +272

    LOL, really liked the "blink or mgk" segment. blink is my second-favorite band ever, i know all their songs by heart. didn't fool me a bit, but it was fun!

    • @nicolinenielsen778
      @nicolinenielsen778 Před měsícem +19

      I was thinking something similar. Sure there is an influence, but you clearly hear a difference. At least in the clips she played. I haven’t actually listen to Mgk 😅

    • @richardkyoki8103
      @richardkyoki8103 Před 27 dny +1

      Question #5 was the only one that stumped me

    • @blairisblood
      @blairisblood Před 22 dny +5

      I also feel like the blink ones are more distinct from the mgk ones by how the guitar/bass sounds, to me instantly recognizable. Or maybe it’s just because I’ve listened to blink more that I can just tell.

    • @GSTFCE
      @GSTFCE Před 9 dny

      I also aced the chsllenge but in the vise versa way I know all the MGK songs by heart

    • @GreenManaYo
      @GreenManaYo Před 5 dny

      as someone who only listened to a few blink 182 songs and like 3 mgk songs i got almost every song wrong xd

  • @caranook
    @caranook Před 10 dny +22

    Gabi mentioning the lack of sense with the phrase ‘could care less’ makes me feel so validated, it always confuses me when people say it like that!

  • @-droid-j7-225
    @-droid-j7-225 Před měsícem +1386

    They broke the big unwritten rule, they committed the biggest punk sin: they revealed that it was an industry by actual trying to become famous…

    • @martinsch
      @martinsch Před měsícem +95

      I realized that it's the opposite of most Rap artists, singing about being rich and famous while being poor af.

    • @cheezebagz729
      @cheezebagz729 Před měsícem +60

      Nah bro it’s bound to happen when you call yourself pop punk when punk is a movement against the norms of the mainstream and conformity and pop is all about conforming to get into the mainstream

    • @2000Doriyas
      @2000Doriyas Před měsícem +8

      So did The Sex Pistols and The Clash but the public ate it up

    • @redskullband
      @redskullband Před měsícem +10

      ​@@cheezebagz729yes, pop punk in itself is a term that doesn't make sense to me

    • @OmegaTheSillyWolf
      @OmegaTheSillyWolf Před měsícem +1

      I'd like your comment but it's at 666 and I'm not ruining perfection

  • @eleutheromania6191
    @eleutheromania6191 Před měsícem +1455

    The mic cutting out when you were singing your heart out had me crying

    • @MadDunhill
      @MadDunhill Před měsícem +23

      great accidental comedy

  • @wackisjack
    @wackisjack Před měsícem +105

    i saw tx2 (the band being cringey on tiktok for publicity ) perform live as an opener for a show i went to and they were actually great! amazing energy, vibes, and overall message in terms of fighting for queer rights. def don't think they deserve any hate for trying to get their music out there.

    • @rabbitman8535
      @rabbitman8535 Před 7 dny +2

      I've seen them of scumbagdad and I swore they're just being ironic

    • @Jynxx1001
      @Jynxx1001 Před 3 dny

      Yes! I love TX2's music, I love the messages in so many of their songs, and I think the marketing is brilliant. So glad to see someone else who enjoyed them

  • @paulchilds1893
    @paulchilds1893 Před 24 dny +13

    The whole "Hardest rock song ever made" montage gave real "Can you burn a Luigi board" vibes.

  • @Hppyzmbie
    @Hppyzmbie Před měsícem +1535

    As a dad in his very early 40's, who has been a Panic fan for 20 years, I felt attacked by your assessment of their cringy lyrics. You were absolutely right but I still felt attacked.

    • @britty23
      @britty23 Před měsícem +20

      Lmao same 😂 their first album was life when I was 18

    • @SaintShion
      @SaintShion Před měsícem +88

      As a sudo-parent who raised my now 20yr old twin brothers, I firmly believe MCRs _teenagers_ was trying to warn us abt teenagers, not the adults controllong them. 😂

    • @CorinnaAtHome
      @CorinnaAtHome Před měsícem +5

      Sometimes we deserve the feel we feel

    • @themagentacolor
      @themagentacolor Před měsícem +73

      ⁠@@SaintShion considering gerard wrote the song after witnessing a group of teens on the subway and being scared of them, this seems a fair assessment 😂

    • @SaintShion
      @SaintShion Před měsícem +4

      @@themagentacolor haha idk this, but it makes a lot of sense!! lol, even he wasn't exempt from a teens wrath

  • @mltplprsnlties
    @mltplprsnlties Před měsícem +1478

    as a canadian i can confirm nickel back is just canadian

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Před měsícem +18

      do you have any theories on why Canada produces such a disproportionate number of music and film stars? Most of them are pretty great; obviously there's always going to be the Nickelbacks and the Biebers but you can't do much about that I suppose. But yeah it's a small population and there's nothing in your culture that screams "we make artists", yet that's exactly what happens. Any thoughts?

    • @mltplprsnlties
      @mltplprsnlties Před měsícem +23

      @@idontwantahandlethough this is an interesting question. its weird people are always surprised when actors or musicians are canadian like Ryan Gosselin for example. Music and the arts in general are a really big part of canadian culture and i think maybe because so many of our artists stay in canada the rest of the world doesnt hear about them and i think people just dont realize how many artists are actually canadian. I learn actors or musicians are Canadian all the time and im like wtf? Then theres artists that are international like the tragically hip and bryan adams that are huuuuge in canada but not nearly as big in the states idk what that says. i always think were a lottttt like the UK. As well as being very multicultural a lot of our musicians are french, indigenous, indian ect

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 Před měsícem +44

      @@idontwantahandlethough The music one is actually very easy to explain. There is a law in Canada that all radio stations must play at least 35% Canadian music. So, basically every 1/3 songs needs to be from a Canadian artist on the radio up here. This means a lot of artists who would get absolutely zero radio play get a chance because Radio stations are desperate to fill the Cancon (what the law is called) quotas. When those artists blow up locally, partly because of this law, that talent is then noticed by major music labels down south. There's no language barrier and are pop culture is very similar to American pop culture so it's easy for bands that have already shown to be popular here to transition to the bigger American market. Thus, an outsized number of Canadian bands/artists hitting it big.

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 Před měsícem +11

      Canada gave us Rush, Voivod, DOA and Nomeansno (just off the top of my head). I will always have a soft spot for Canada, even if my Canadian ex wife is not my favorite person

    • @DH-gq7bm
      @DH-gq7bm Před měsícem

      Rush is canadian? Proof that canada is just extra terrestrials in disguise​@@johnchedsey1306

  • @comboofficial
    @comboofficial Před měsícem +127

    I now feel the need to recommend a few post-emo bands who are killing it right now.
    Origami Angel - My favorite band, period. Phenomenal punk/emo duo. I encourage anyone who likes emo to listen to Somewhere City at least once.
    Overtheweather - Super small, but mighty. Unique sound and just overall wonderful to listen to. Old Room is a great place to start.
    Spanish Love Songs - Lyricism, vocals, everything; just fantastic. I recommend Brave Faces, Everyone the most.
    Mom jeans. - I'm sure a lot of people know these guys already. They rock. Best Buds is a fantastic album.
    I really don't know if this comment will be found, but these guys deserve all the support in the world.

    • @josephdraper1435
      @josephdraper1435 Před měsícem +7

      W origami angels rep

    • @comboofficial
      @comboofficial Před měsícem

      @@josephdraper1435

    • @dand8399
      @dand8399 Před měsícem

      you should totally check out Burial Etiquette!!!

    • @lorettabes4553
      @lorettabes4553 Před měsícem

      Omg thanks! I'll check them out

    • @maria2337
      @maria2337 Před 29 dny +1

      I’d like to add Meet Me @ The Altar to this list! As a longtime Hispanic emo, nothing lit up my heart more than an all female, all poc pop punk band. The singer’s voice is perfect for the genre and their shows have such a diverse audience!

  • @alargething
    @alargething Před 16 dny +17

    2004: this feels like a lot of rich teens living in LA
    2024: this feels like a lot of rich teens living in LA

  • @SnakeskinSestra
    @SnakeskinSestra Před měsícem +786

    to be fair, MGK probably sings about being a teenager since that’s his traditional dating pool.

  • @mrelba9176
    @mrelba9176 Před měsícem +3074

    Hearing "Dress like you wish you did in 2007" fucking destroys my soul at 38...

    • @LunaWitcherArt
      @LunaWitcherArt Před měsícem +198

      So... Dress like you wish you did in 1997? Is that better?😅

    • @enezleszek1254
      @enezleszek1254 Před měsícem +28

      my man, this is right in the feels

    • @haleymist09
      @haleymist09 Před měsícem +47

      Weird right? I like to think of it this way - Now we have our own money, so we can dress now like we wanted to then lol!

    • @mrelba9176
      @mrelba9176 Před měsícem +102

      @@LunaWitcherArt I dress like I did in 2007 now. I'd figured out my style at 22 🤣

    • @SaintShion
      @SaintShion Před měsícem +78

      Im 36 and still dress however I want. The only difference is the amount it of time it takes makes me feel old and tired 😆

  • @Februarysnow13
    @Februarysnow13 Před měsícem +69

    I remember I used to go to these concerts, and feel this unreal connection with every single person in the audience of "there are other people who feel the same as I do, and we are not alone, and we can feel it all together tonight." I don't know if it's just cuz I'm older, or not in my hometown anymore, but it feels like all the concerts I've been going to lately feel... like no one cares about each other, and they're only there for the hype. I feel like your video hits home about how tiktok (tbh all social media) itself prioritizes approval of the masses, which kinda sucks, and I hope there will be a shift towards community again

    • @connorjones312
      @connorjones312 Před 18 dny +3

      There is my friend, The underground Emo scene. I was just in the audience for Foxing The Hotiler and Thursday and every single moment we were singing screaming every word back at them. We were all strangers but Had the same energy not of hate or angst per se...but Understanding In Car Crash 🙏🏻
      Also a few bears helps with that

  • @Chesnutthouse
    @Chesnutthouse Před měsícem +59

    Your mic not picking it up makes the bit so much better

  • @jacobkalbfleisch5431
    @jacobkalbfleisch5431 Před měsícem +2298

    I don't hate mgk for making people think pop punk is cringe. I hate him because he's a creep and seemingly has built his image around being bargain bin Lil Peep

    • @aphexmaxim
      @aphexmaxim Před měsícem +128

      peep had beef with mgk and he posted about it on socials which makes it even worse

    • @_rat_5758
      @_rat_5758 Před měsícem +3

      Same

    • @goldensloth7
      @goldensloth7 Před měsícem +2

      yup

    • @nonprofitgirl
      @nonprofitgirl Před měsícem +3

      Oh good. My husbands name is Kelly. So funny. Nickleback?? Dumb as hell.

    • @gibbsm
      @gibbsm Před měsícem +45

      that's pretty much where I'm at on him. I don't care about genre switching, he's just a straight goober, try-hard.

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk86 Před měsícem +958

    The microphone not picking it up and gabi not giving a shit makes it even more emo.

  • @tyrug3
    @tyrug3 Před měsícem +58

    I loved the song you made in this! Paying homage to the classics but also bringing in your twist and modern stuff! It was fantastic I truly love it!

  • @gh0stpuppi333
    @gh0stpuppi333 Před měsícem +28

    So happy to know that you love Scene Queen
    She is, in fact, fucking iconic

  • @yael5067
    @yael5067 Před měsícem +1791

    I think a huge part of why this wave of emo music is less emotionally affecting isn't only because "it hits different when you're in your 20s", but importantly also that there isn't really a culture tied to the music anymore.
    music genre used to play a lot more into how you dressed daily, who you hung out with, and the place you saw yourself in society. this definitely had downsides, but also added a lot of depth and shared in-group experience to the music!
    today's emo has been aestheticized - it's currently more about a vibe, a mood, rather than a whole community and culture

    • @ktqt8544
      @ktqt8544 Před měsícem +120

      YES. My partner’s youth was a b boy in the 90s, mine was an emo/scene kid in the 2000’s, and we talked about how there used to be a whole culture and community tied to these music genres. People just listen to the music now or dress the part, but it isnt like you’re part of a community with its own culture like it was back in the day.

    • @JonasTheBonas
      @JonasTheBonas Před měsícem

      In short - It just doesnt work on the Internet, you have to Sit in a shitty Park and blast Music over your shitty bluetooth speakers with other people who are deeply unhinged and weird and then you have an actual subculture. It just aint the same if you only do it on the internet

    • @lazyfoxplays8503
      @lazyfoxplays8503 Před měsícem +65

      It’s all about advertising on tiktok now.
      Not about building a community.

    • @Ronni0
      @Ronni0 Před měsícem +21

      The way TX2 and similar artists market it as well is all formulaic. Which makes it feel far less authentic. TX2 uses the same sort of zoom in every tiktok he makes for a song and also very often puts his hand up to his mouth and says something "controversial." As a result it just feels like some product that consume and not something of much substance. Which is also why it comes across as an aesthetic rather than a genuine expression.

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 Před měsícem

      If your music taste was that much of your identity, you were a loser. I guess it kinda echos teens making their gender their identity now. People with nothing interesting and no hobbies will make random shit their whole personality

  • @Dr.Quarex
    @Dr.Quarex Před měsícem +1777

    As someone old enough to think emo was just kids too young to appreciate goth I love the idea that now those emo kids are mad about younger emo kids

    • @eggsmcmuffin2741
      @eggsmcmuffin2741 Před měsícem +75

      I was a scene kid circa 2010 and goth / emo / scene were quite different in their music and expression. now days I actually can't tell the difference

    • @induspherix
      @induspherix Před měsícem +33

      In a 100 yrs, punk will have gone through an 11th gen renaissance. Under the title of punk, I predict this iteration with conflate the Buzzcocks with Type 0 Negative, Hed (PE), Sarah McLachlan, Skinny Puppy, John Cage, and nSync.

    • @youremyrock
      @youremyrock Před měsícem +73

      Emo is pretty far from goth, I think that's a common misconception. Music wise, two whole different worlds; people just try to link them together because they are both alternative and both just so happen to use black a lot.

    • @induspherix
      @induspherix Před měsícem +12

      The main pattern that linked goth to emo fashions did strike me as a pretty superficial aesthetic, but MCR's creative drive might have had some latent influences from post punk retro goth in the noise of their formative years.
      This does not contradict your point, naturally. And I'm speculating, because it might have just been that Hot Topic was a really accessible means to colonize an inspiration with an interesting getup. I would be curious to get a deep dive on the different kinds of music Gerard Way was exposed to through the progression of his childhood though.@@youremyrock

    • @2000Doriyas
      @2000Doriyas Před měsícem +15

      You’re mostly right but The Cure to emo pipeline is not a huge stretch of musical lineage (this is because we’re talking about goth, Rites of Spring, The Hated, Dinosaur Jr, Moss Icon, Mohinder need to be mentioned as heavily influential on what would become emo)

  • @scottymorris8332
    @scottymorris8332 Před měsícem +7

    Love that you featured @Honey Revenge because I sae them live and they're so genuine. 🤘🏾

  • @lilskeezykeezy9850
    @lilskeezykeezy9850 Před měsícem +2

    you articulated so well everything I’ve thought about all of this. super well done

  • @g0thyx
    @g0thyx Před měsícem +1067

    i think a lot of the issue with tiktok emo/alt music is a lot of it lacks actual substance or memorability, it all feels very surface level, samey and a lot of the artists treat emo as more costumey instead of an actual subculture

    • @bexiexz
      @bexiexz Před měsícem +19

      so much this

    • @LunaWitcherArt
      @LunaWitcherArt Před měsícem +133

      I think it lacks authenticity most of the time. Before, things happened to go viral. Now people make things with the intention of them going viral, and everything viral is meant to grab your attention just to sell you something. That makes people take the easy route of copying what was famous before, instead of actually creating something new and unique inspired by what came before.

    • @punkrckr6889
      @punkrckr6889 Před měsícem +81

      This is my main beef with it too, a lot of it just has no authenticity whatsoever. They’re just cynically adopting the aesthetic without any care for the actual music or the culture

    • @TimeLostProductions
      @TimeLostProductions Před měsícem +5

      totally agree with this!!!!

    • @naomiw8694
      @naomiw8694 Před měsícem +59

      the emo/alt/punk scene back then was so much more gritty and real than anything we see on tiktok. like when you think of my chemical romance there was some real shit going on there, it wasn’t all pretty. even if these bands did end up under a label they went thru a lot of shit before that and continued to go thru it. theres also the less mainstream bands that continued playing in dingy moldy basements where everyone was high on who knows what and hadnt showered in who knows how long bc they lived in a punk house with no running water lol

  • @johnfitsch7781
    @johnfitsch7781 Před měsícem +913

    The new Paramore album was exceptional. It wasn’t trying to be a nostalgia act, it was just really good made by people who care.

    • @Swerv0.
      @Swerv0. Před měsícem +14

      YES!

    • @Swerv0.
      @Swerv0. Před měsícem +15

      If you liked that and haven’t listened yet you should really check out willow smith I think she embodies it perfectly with a slight twist.

    • @thankuslay6766
      @thankuslay6766 Před měsícem +7

      tr4shhh

    • @kc8818
      @kc8818 Před měsícem +6

      i loveddddd this is why

    • @dizzyizzy919
      @dizzyizzy919 Před měsícem +5

      HOW. Just how. How do people like it so much I do not get it. A song that repeats “ThIs iS wHy I dOn’T lEaVe ThE hOuSe” over and over beat out Belinda Says by Alvvays for the Grammy for best alternative performance and I just.. do not understand.

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t Před měsícem +40

    Good emo / post-hardcore band Saosin. Their album “In Search of Solid Ground,” has basically no bad songs on it. Start with the song
    “I Never Wanted Wanted to”

    • @Process_Sleep
      @Process_Sleep Před měsícem +3

      Translating the Name is one of the best EPs of all time

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 Před měsícem

      I’ve never heard anyone describe Saosin as “emo”. At all.

    • @priere_
      @priere_ Před měsícem +4

      ​@dewilew2137 YEAH YOURE RIGHT. "Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness).
      Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music.
      Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta.
      Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral
      EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE
      NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

    • @Hadeto_AngelRust
      @Hadeto_AngelRust Před 28 dny

      Saosin is just diet Circa Survive

    • @blackie126
      @blackie126 Před 22 dny +2

      Saosin goes hard, I love Collapse.

  • @ryanbuss6810
    @ryanbuss6810 Před měsícem +12

    Just wanted to let you know from a massive pop punk fan, I love your song at the end! It's a certified (by me) bop

  • @NyxTheRandomPerson
    @NyxTheRandomPerson Před měsícem +1937

    Tik tok is coming for every music genre I feel.

    • @imarchello
      @imarchello Před měsícem +9

      Come again?

    • @lulaa4595
      @lulaa4595 Před měsícem +94

      ⁠@@imarchelloevery genre of music is getting tiktokified

    • @PixlyPenguin
      @PixlyPenguin Před měsícem +13

      ​@@lulaa4595 I mean emo music didn't get really tiktoktikified, it became more over done at least that's what I got from this video

    • @plasticgreendan5919
      @plasticgreendan5919 Před měsícem +83

      I cant wait for the tiktokification of Goregrind

    • @Gorlcaptain
      @Gorlcaptain Před měsícem +13

      @@PixlyPenguinit’s definitely being tiktokified by punk/emo music creators on the app

  • @mashpotatosauce3566
    @mashpotatosauce3566 Před měsícem +667

    Emo is happening everywhere in basements and living rooms, tiktok emo is so far removed from what emo really is that its basically a joke. Thats not a “REAL EMO IS ONLY THE DC HARDCORE” thing, but theres a certain genuineness that emo requires, that the goobers on tiktok aren’t pulling off.

    • @morganburt2565
      @morganburt2565 Před měsícem +25

      exactly what i was thinking but 313hardcore lmao. do what u want i just don’t want them pretending they’re some brand new force and they personally brought emo back.

    • @hey__you
      @hey__you Před měsícem +4

      dc hardcore is such a trigger for me ugh

    • @brokenhalo2001
      @brokenhalo2001 Před měsícem +6

      same with every alt scene and nerd culture these types of bellends have kinda tainted.

    • @eselle
      @eselle Před měsícem +6

      It’s not different than Fall Out Boy, MCR, Panic, etc. They were all the polished pop-friendly version of Emo music at the time. It’s always been this way that any semi-popular subgenre gets chewed up and spit out by the machine.

    • @lilb.b.6696
      @lilb.b.6696 Před měsícem

      huge agree

  • @PengoLu
    @PengoLu Před měsícem +4

    thank you for speaking what I already noticed but havent organized my thoughts, this is kinda awesome

  • @MrKaffiend
    @MrKaffiend Před 13 dny +1

    I love a Gabi music analysis video. You have such a good faith approach to it and have so much fun with it. And we get Gabi music?!?! Yeeees!! Your music, parodies, homages, all of it is so fun.

  • @KarmasAB123
    @KarmasAB123 Před měsícem +1241

    4:45 Here I am once again insisting that Check Yes Juliet is actually a great song.

  • @synthiandrakon
    @synthiandrakon Před měsícem +863

    One thing to point out is that the emo aestetic we're seeing on ticktock feels like the most extreme version of it. A lot of the biggest bands in emo at that time weren't that deep into alternative fashion. It was a lot more self conscious than that, like they had the skinny jeans and the eyeliner and the fringe, but like there was way more restraint, because they were people experimenting and dabbling in an aestetic. There was a lot more variety i felt, it feels like every new emo act i see is like instantly full black veil brides

    • @TheShihrer
      @TheShihrer Před měsícem +91

      It's scene. It was extreme back in the 00s as well. But yeah, lots of emo doesn't fit into scene.

    • @synthiandrakon
      @synthiandrakon Před měsícem +22

      @@TheShihrer I guess but like idk where I grew up, none one really used the word scene. And if we talk about the bands being called back to by this new emo wave, it is the scene bands

    • @IDiggPattyMayonnaise
      @IDiggPattyMayonnaise Před měsícem +78

      ​​​@@synthiandrakonThe black clothes and color hair is definitely scene or goth. People these days completely get emo wrong. Emo was literally regular Tshirt and jeans band like Taking Back Sunday, Jimmy Eat World, or Saves the Day singing sad songs. There was no aesthetic. And almost every band people claim are emo is just pop punk or hardcore. MGK is pop punk, no way in hell is it emo. The loud attention seeking look/sound is literally the opposite of what emo music was about. It basically introverts letting their EMOtions out.

    • @LunaWitcherArt
      @LunaWitcherArt Před měsícem +70

      I said this in another comment, but also pertinent here: those pop punk bands ALL dressed like skaters. Avril had a skater aesthetic in her first album. Simple Plan, some screamo bands, every single band that had a song in a rom-com movie from the 00's AND FREAKING SMASH MOUTH - all dressed like skaters. The more extreme of those I THINK was Tokio Hotel, and even then it was mostly the vocalist; his twin brother who also played in the band had a full-on skater vibe all the time. Emo was that same vibe, but dramatic/depressed. And the girls who listened to those bands were the ones bringing in the fun stuff (clashing hair textures, fun colors and/or patterns in hair and clothing, exaggerated makeup) and therefore because the face of the style. THAT'S what these guys are emulating now, not what they would have dressed like back then.

    • @IDiggPattyMayonnaise
      @IDiggPattyMayonnaise Před měsícem +18

      ​@@LunaWitcherArtI agree with everything you said except the brother in Tonio Hotel. He was dressing like a rapper, not a skater. And its funny that you mention bands emulating skaters because girls are all basically dressing as skaters from the 90s. I skated growing up, girls literally dress how I dressed in the 90s. Oversized jeans, big shoes, flannels, and a beanie. We didnt wear thongs pulled up and sag our pants to show them off though. BUT we did wear shoelace belts that looked like thongs so maybe that's where they got it

  • @adriscloudy
    @adriscloudy Před měsícem +6

    living for the mic cutting in and out of you singing

  • @unosturgis
    @unosturgis Před měsícem +7

    Wow I only heard the song at the end once and it is already stuck in my head. Good job! I like the tongue-in-cheek sarcastic lyrics... reminds me of the generic country song parodies people make. This is the first video of yours I have seen, time to watch more!

    • @lorettabes4553
      @lorettabes4553 Před měsícem

      Gabi's content is so easy to watch, it's addicting

  • @theninjaphoenix_6043
    @theninjaphoenix_6043 Před měsícem +416

    31:41 i know this song is mostly satire but "this empty bottle and your glass lips" is actually such a raw line what the hell lmao

  • @zombietrash416
    @zombietrash416 Před měsícem +727

    When youve been in the alt scene for over 20 years its really easy to spot whos wearing an "emo costume" and who actually looks like that on a daily basis.

    • @joshraid1550
      @joshraid1550 Před měsícem +7

      What are the tells specifically?

    • @dkie
      @dkie Před měsícem +40

      @@joshraid1550 They ask questions like that

    • @eaou
      @eaou Před měsícem

      @@dkie its not some secret club you pretentious little weirdo

    • @arbyswitch5580
      @arbyswitch5580 Před měsícem +17

      step one: don't be like this

    • @joshraid1550
      @joshraid1550 Před měsícem +30

      @@dkie I’m not an emo, or a punk. I briefly thought about becoming one maybe. How am I a poser if i’m not posing?

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh Před měsícem +15

    Just now got to this video. My heart jumped when you mentioned Mika! Mika is absolutely amazing and deserves more love and attention! ❤👍

  • @K-o_S
    @K-o_S Před měsícem +7

    I unironically think your voice is amazing 🥰

  • @CutieBanana09
    @CutieBanana09 Před měsícem +357

    Gabi you’re so real for dropping a song that’s simultaneously a banger but also sounds like it debuted on The Suite Life of Zack and Cody

  • @zelzelzelzel
    @zelzelzelzel Před měsícem +440

    i agree that labels have always been responsible for pushing pop punk artists out there, but in the early noughties they were being discovered by playing shows in their local scenes, or later on by posting their music online on myspace. the music was the discovery, which led to the artist being signed. now, with tiktok, the artist is the discovery. labels are looking for the full package, and the music is secondary. artists have always had to put themselves out there to get signed, but now they have to continue that self promotion even after that point. the artists aren't the problem, the labels are.

    • @LunaWitcherArt
      @LunaWitcherArt Před měsícem +24

      It's very sad that the labels don't understand where they stand. They have the producers, the marketing team and the connections to make anything be successful, and yet they still make artists fend for themselves to pay for everything they lend them to make and promote music.

    • @mrggy
      @mrggy Před měsícem +22

      Yeah it was interesting I was watching a video on pop punk from the channel Punk Rock MBA the other day and he mentioned that the rise of the internet meant that music, and the hardcore scene in particular, stopped being so NY/LA centric. You had teens in Ohio uploading music online and getting discovered without having to first move out to the coasts. I thought of that both when Gabbi mentioned everyone in pop punk talking about hating their hometown (lol) but also in how she said everything nowadays is so LA centric. It’s shifted back to a focus on the coasts, but instead of that coming with a focus on building the music community like in the past, it’s now hyperindividualized, with the artist and the personal brand taking priority over the music

    • @BuoyancyOfLoyalty
      @BuoyancyOfLoyalty Před měsícem +14

      Literally this. Like a lot of the emo acts had their own local followings. The conflation of "industry plants" and "label backed" isn't at all the right correlation.

  • @TobyOkay
    @TobyOkay Před měsícem +1

    Great video and the ending song is a legit banger

  • @robertschoenemann9815
    @robertschoenemann9815 Před 16 dny

    Hi Gabi, I feel like I watched way too many videos from you, even though I've only subscribed a few days ago, but the kind of throw-away-songs (that's what they feel like) are really good. Also, I related to this video very much, so thanks for that as well! Keep it up.

  • @loras507
    @loras507 Před měsícem +690

    honestly i think people are overlooking how many pop-punk bands tried and failed to blow up at the same time as fall out boy and panic and the like. an artist who was posting all their work on myspace was likely trying to do the same thing as artists posting now on tiktok. sometimes people just make bad music. you dont need to listen to someones music just because they tell you to. being subject to an advertisement doesn't mean you have to give it your attention.

    • @dursty3226
      @dursty3226 Před měsícem +29

      this, right here!
      i remember hearing a metric crap-ton of genuinely bad music on myspace.
      on the other side of that, though, there were also a ton of really good artists that never blew up or got signed, which is a huge bummer.

    • @michelleb2722
      @michelleb2722 Před měsícem +14

      yeah... the filter has been blown off. now we see all the acts that aren't making it because they don't have to go thru a label, and it was never like that before

    • @lizek3515
      @lizek3515 Před měsícem +4

      My favorite is Hollywood undead getting popular because of MySpace

    • @eko9554
      @eko9554 Před měsícem

      You could literally search up new good pop punk songs on Spotify, CZcams, and bandcamp. I’m now listening to a new emo band called the requiem which sounds a lot like mcr

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch Před měsícem +3

      It's a bit different because their actual music wasn't foisted upon you unless you actually viewed their page. On TikTok you're going to experience the music via a snippet of a video which will take up the entirety of your screen. On MySpace it was just background music, which while still annoying was less of a problem to deal with. MySpace was primarily text based social messaging. TikTok is a video content delivery system. Even if you avoid a person by blocking them, they have hundreds of spambots reposting the video in a way that abides via the TOS so you're going to have to see the video whether you like it or not.

  • @ZyxthePest
    @ZyxthePest Před měsícem +389

    Instagram Reels has shockingly recommended me a ton of great indie bands in the last couple of months. Like actual produced and polished stuff compared to the slapdash aesthetic thievery of TikTok pop-punk/emo stuff. It almost feels like a new version of MTV, but on my phone.

    • @zkkitty2436
      @zkkitty2436 Před měsícem +17

      drop some names!!

    • @ZyxthePest
      @ZyxthePest Před měsícem

      @@zkkitty2436 Got me into Faye Webster and The Chats. Webster has had some larger success over the years, but the first time I'd ever heard about The Chats.

    • @nikitatavernitilitvynova
      @nikitatavernitilitvynova Před měsícem +4

      I don't know if you've heard any of his stuff but Illenium recently made an album called Illenium (I mentioned it in another comment) that was rated as mostly Rock/metal and it's more so a collection of his recent singles from a few years ago till now. It's such a good album that I haven't gotten tired of it yet. I could probably listen to Shivering with Spiritbox 30 times in the same day and I wouldn't be mad. And the album has some pretty good features. Like Avril Lavigne and All Time Low and a metal band I don't know anything about called Motionless In White. Sorry if it seems too vague but I'm not fully into this genre, I just so happen to really enjoy this album.

  • @brattyc0rpse
    @brattyc0rpse Před měsícem +2

    the beginning bit of playing iconic emo bangers made me so nostalgic for middle school. im still alternative, but i haven't listened to some of those in years

  • @ThePersia450
    @ThePersia450 Před 10 dny

    I liked your song. Pretty cool. I loved how the lyrics had almost all the tropes you talked about earlier in the vid. Had me cracking up and jamming at the same time 😂😂

  • @YoungFatigue
    @YoungFatigue Před měsícem +499

    hi gabi, we're yet another modern emo/pop punk band getting lost in the noise. just want to say thank you for this video. it's super accurate from our experience and it's nice to have the landscape of things so well presented. it's a weird time man. use trends to get traction, but be original, promote your music, but not too much. i think most modern bands accept we're never going to be the next nirvana or mcr, there's just so much oversaturation and those with money or connections are only getting bigger slices of the pie. i know it all sounds rather doom and gloom, but there's a beautiful irony here. it all gives us something to get really emo about. and hopefully that leads to great music. sure it won't get listened to by the masses, but as a kid all it took was one great song by one great band to keep me going. that's what matters.

    • @okeus
      @okeus Před měsícem +26

      as someone who got REALLY into dubstep early on, and then to the emo-rap scene early, i feel like this is simply a pattern that emerges when any genre gains more traction than it typically has. eventually, we make music because we want to, for us. i think we'll be okay

    • @okeus
      @okeus Před měsícem +9

      also that is an absolute banger of an "about me" line my guy, "sleepy punk" is catchy as hell

    • @CookieFlavored4
      @CookieFlavored4 Před měsícem +12

      i just checked out your music on spotify, and the top 10 anime betrayals song is literally just this concept lyrics-wise lol. +1 new listener for you guys 😁

    • @cindellednic
      @cindellednic Před měsícem +3

      Damn I listened to Top 10 Anime Betrayals. The guitar has such an old Silverchair vibe to it.

    • @donnabellalitton3973
      @donnabellalitton3973 Před měsícem +8

      "As a kid all it took was one great song by one great band to keep me going." Man, that made me tear up.

  • @annek9027
    @annek9027 Před měsícem +429

    giving me life at the parts the mic didn't pic you up girlie 😭😭😭

    • @JayBigDadyCy
      @JayBigDadyCy Před měsícem +7

      I assure you that if you, like me, were listening while driving, you would've been thinking your Bluetooth was fucking up and you'd be ready to throw your phone out the window. I did not appreciate that bit 😂😂😂

    • @juliasky6149
      @juliasky6149 Před měsícem +1

      It’s deliberate because of copyright

  • @mahamadeuswardhana8860
    @mahamadeuswardhana8860 Před 17 dny +1

    Ngl the cutting audio mixed with the lyrics fading in with that emo lyric font got me real quick. But this video in its context is great.👍🤣

  • @acolytealfbrand718
    @acolytealfbrand718 Před měsícem +3

    Ok, I occasionally watched some of your videos youtube rarely suggested them to me, but the ending of this one is what convinced me to finally press that stupid Subscribe button. I hope you are happy.

  • @dillpickle-no9hl
    @dillpickle-no9hl Před měsícem +776

    As a former emo kid, I feel like a big part of why people hate new emo/punk/grunge music so much is that it reminds us of how alt subcultures have been taken over by consumerism. Like, being punk or grunge in the 70s-90s actually meant something about your political beliefs and morals. I was emo in the early 2010s, when the popularity of the subculture had kind of died down, but I feel like there was still an element of shared culture, experiences, and beliefs, especially on platforms like tumblr. A lot of these subcultures were explicitly anti-capitalist, and served as a safe space for people that were queer or had mental health issues. So, I think people are frustrated at the fact that these "industry plant" musicians can just decide to become emo/punk one day, and buy the clothes from shein, without having to learn about the values and histories of those subcultures. I don't think it's fair to put all of the blame on these musicians, but I understand people's frustration that being emo/punk has become more about aesthetics and what clothes you buy than an actual lifestyle. Especially when most of these new emo/punk musicians aren't doing anything new with the genres. Like, I think a lot of people forget just how diverse these genres used to be. When I was emo, my favorite bands were My Chemical Romance, Panic at the Disco, and Pierce the Veil, and even though they all fall into the "emo" category, they have incredibly different sounds. But yea, considering the fact that the unofficial emo slogan was "It's not a phase, it's a lifestyle", this whole thing just makes me feel kind of sad.

    • @JonasTheBonas
      @JonasTheBonas Před měsícem +36

      Idk if thats really so much it, maybe in parts idk
      . like the discussion of bands calling themselves punk when practically almost no bands today are actually punk, is a completely different one.
      The actual political side of music has been almost insignificant for such a long time. the whole thing about nu metal and emo music is that they were really not political at all which made them so accessible.
      like rage against the machine is a big expectation here but they were kinda the last big real punk band

    • @JonasTheBonas
      @JonasTheBonas Před měsícem +14

      like what i am saying is, I don't believe angry 50 year old punks who go to garage gigs on the weekend are the ones on tik tok writing angry comments😂

    • @dillpickle-no9hl
      @dillpickle-no9hl Před měsícem +47

      @@JonasTheBonas I mean I'm 23, so I'm mainly talking about people around my age who were into the emo/punk scene in the 90s through the early 2010s. I completely agree that the political aspect of alt music has been fading away for decades, but (at least in my circles) it was still a pretty big part of the culture up until the mid 2010s. I think that the genres were much less explicitly anti-capitalist in the 2000s, but I do remember a lot of focus being put fighting stigma relating to queerness and mental health, which was still pretty revolutionary for that time. And personally, the whole focus on "posers" felt like the community was at least trying to keep corporate entities out of the subculture. Obviously there are a bunch of different causes for why people dislike the new emo/punk musicians, but as someone that's still in the alt community, the things in my first comment are some of the most popular complaints that I've heard from talking to people about this topic. But yeah, to be fair, my parents are into punk/grunge music, so growing up with it probably impacted the way that I viewed the subcultures as a whole.

    • @mrggy
      @mrggy Před měsícem +30

      @@dillpickle-no9hl I do think Tumblr changed things though. I was more into emo subculture in the myspace era (though I personally wasn’t on it) and things were very much not political. I think you could even argue that Tumblr was the bigger political influence in that equation that emo

    • @AnimeLover4Life3395
      @AnimeLover4Life3395 Před měsícem +7

      I may not look punk, but the way I live sure is

  • @thatduck6753
    @thatduck6753 Před měsícem +4

    The mustang in the back tells me how awesome your playlist is

  • @RaeWynn
    @RaeWynn Před měsícem +1

    I love the wilt shoutout in the clips at the end !!!!! they're a new fav of mine and I found them on the clock app, goes to show that there is actually cool indie stuff out there it's just being overpowered by all the over-processed derivative crap.

  • @blackveilbrides
    @blackveilbrides Před měsícem +968

    Really enjoyed this video. Great work Gabi.

  • @Rat_King87
    @Rat_King87 Před měsícem +668

    The way I saw the title and immediately said “I bet tx2 is there” 💀💀💀

  • @TheKrusso
    @TheKrusso Před 9 dny +3

    This might sound crazy, but listening to Pierce the Veil at 27 hits different because I've actually experienced life now

  • @DJDRWHNTR
    @DJDRWHNTR Před měsícem

    I love the video at the end 😅❤

  • @shangerdanger
    @shangerdanger Před měsícem +1194

    the only thing i'm afraid of is that i hated the music when it came out and now i love it... so in 10 years will i love the current cringe emo music?

    • @Sam-pd9mp
      @Sam-pd9mp Před měsícem +57

      That’s what I’m saying! I love my music, I’m scared when I get way older, I’ll see my music like that one song “who said, I can’t wear my converse”

    • @krusher181
      @krusher181 Před měsícem +16

      Like what you like. I think it’s always good when you like something. I hate emo but I think people should enjoy life and not worry about how deep their music is.

    • @Greybell
      @Greybell Před měsícem +5

      People get nostalgic for past music so absolutely. I'm actually surprised people are now being nostalgic over generic recession pop from the 2010s nowadays even though they're corny af but it reflects a better time back then for most.

    • @Greybell
      @Greybell Před měsícem

      ​@@Sam-pd9mpThat song is a banger and I have the revamped version in my playlist.

    • @Sam-pd9mp
      @Sam-pd9mp Před měsícem

      @@Greybell I see so many people dissing it’s sad

  • @iamcyno
    @iamcyno Před měsícem +360

    ur emo song is lowkey a bop. also, i agree, there is defiantly some amazing talent on tiktok. i found an indie band by the name of "Tiger really" i really enjoy thier music. its fresh, but also emulates old emo in a way.

    • @statusquo3559
      @statusquo3559 Před měsícem +4

      Its like I get the point but also, it kinda slaps. But also the vibes are good.

  • @Bazsigood
    @Bazsigood Před měsícem

    your choreography is flawless! Just awesome :D :D :D

  • @meepothecat
    @meepothecat Před měsícem +2

    the mic not picking up your singing is so funny :D

  • @w4td0uw4nt2
    @w4td0uw4nt2 Před měsícem +587

    Okay hearing that dude say he knowingly made cringe to piss people off and push his music is actually punk rock as hell. I gotta respect that hustle

    • @mo0man
      @mo0man Před měsícem +40

      as someone who grew up and lived this era, I feel like people have no idea what punk rock is, including me.

    • @charlot6590
      @charlot6590 Před měsícem +38

      that isn't punk rock its just a bad marketing strategy

    • @ZzzBliss
      @ZzzBliss Před měsícem +9

      Yeah Tx2 gets props to me idc

    • @livvyyyyyyyyyyy
      @livvyyyyyyyyyyy Před měsícem +14

      I don’t think that’s punk rock brother

    • @ZzzBliss
      @ZzzBliss Před měsícem

      @@livvyyyyyyyyyyy gatekeepers

  • @allie2121
    @allie2121 Před měsícem +235

    The emo song "we are prince and princess.." whatever is basically the same song as kings and queens by 30 seconds to mars..
    We are the kings and queens of promise...

    • @LucariosAxe
      @LucariosAxe Před měsícem +27

      Basically the same melody as well

    • @semekiizuio
      @semekiizuio Před 28 dny +1

      But 30 seconds to mars werent this cringe...

    • @nerdgasma882
      @nerdgasma882 Před 15 dny

      That’s exactly what I thought!!

  • @CassieNoJutsu
    @CassieNoJutsu Před měsícem +2

    not only is the video great, but holy fuck you captured something with your song at the end. It's like parody, but also somehow more authentic than anything else I've heard since I was just a kid and my life was a nightmare in ohio.

  • @Charuchii
    @Charuchii Před měsícem +7

    Gotta be honest, this new generation of emos being called posers and hanging out on tiktok feels very in line with the original emos, who were called posers and were hanging out on myspace

  • @SkimoStories
    @SkimoStories Před měsícem +280

    Not me LITERALLY practicing the vocals and chords to "Lying Is The Most Fun A Girl Can Have Without Taking Her Clothes Off" MOMENTS before watching this video. I STILL have the ultimateguitar tab open. HUMILIATING

    • @DBLRxyz
      @DBLRxyz Před měsícem +13

      Why was I obsessed with this song in middle school lmao

    • @jeauxxx
      @jeauxxx Před měsícem +8

      I cried to "Caraphernalia" not too long ago so I feel your embarrassment

    • @dr_tcbv
      @dr_tcbv Před měsícem +1

      ⁠​⁠@@jeauxxxhow do you cry to caraphernelia😭

    • @aspillust
      @aspillust Před měsícem +1

      i was falling down the mcr subreddit rabbit hole last night so i get you lol

    • @jeauxxx
      @jeauxxx Před měsícem

      my grandma died @@dr_tcbv

  • @Deets-Does-Stuff
    @Deets-Does-Stuff Před měsícem +256

    I just saw Fall Out Boy and Jimmy Eat World perform here in Portland. The audience was freaking amazing and the show was a fever dream.

    • @jessicapaoli7587
      @jessicapaoli7587 Před měsícem +4

      I saw them in Sacramento CA it was so good and fob played my favorite song of theirs 🫶🫶

    • @t7mf
      @t7mf Před měsícem +1

      Jimmy eat wood fortbite

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Před měsícem +9

      luckkyyyy! I hated Fall Out Boy at the time cause I was a 14 year old boy and that wasn't "cool", but listening to it now I TOTALLY get why people like them.. I'd even say I kinda like them myself! Very catchy, very angsty

    • @eSxExcellence
      @eSxExcellence Před měsícem +1

      Seeing them at the end of this month, super excited!

    • @YEOWCHHH
      @YEOWCHHH Před měsícem

      oregon portland or maine portland?

  • @panpanic7015
    @panpanic7015 Před 9 dny

    oh my god finally someone talking about this. great video

  • @kurtdsmellsliketeenspirit
    @kurtdsmellsliketeenspirit Před měsícem +1

    ok off topic maybe, but I luv ur mustang guitar in the back

  • @conan4real
    @conan4real Před měsícem +202

    your mic cutting out while you're singing is so fucking funny it's sending me LMFAOOOO

    • @Dunny261
      @Dunny261 Před měsícem +7

      I thought it was a copyright dodge tactic tbh 🤣

    • @Xplreli
      @Xplreli Před měsícem

      @@Dunny261it is

  • @ciaradonegan1607
    @ciaradonegan1607 Před měsícem +238

    9:54 I'm from the same town as a major pop punk band, and every time they had a line like (example) "pull me out of this sinking town," I was like... but I like this town... :(

    • @darkmatterburger
      @darkmatterburger Před měsícem +1

      I’m just picturing that one clip of a bee from adventure time

  • @katascendant
    @katascendant Před měsícem +3

    i like a lot of tx2 songs cause i just find them funny. they never make it into a genuine emo playlist, but they rule my playlist of songs that don’t sound bad but make me laugh

  • @Judie_x
    @Judie_x Před měsícem

    ngl I love your song on this vid... Slayeddddd fr

  • @eslachance
    @eslachance Před měsícem +172

    Gabi, sister, you fucking rock. Not only are you confident enough to get up and just sing in your own room for us, you're confident enough to *publish it even if it cuts off completely* and I will forever respect that level of absolute chadness.

  • @tabsterg
    @tabsterg Před měsícem +180

    _"i'll CRASH my car and RUN AWAY WITH YOU"_ goes so hard it instantly made me think of someone and made me shiver with the angst of wanting to fuck off with them that I hadn'tn't felt since back then way to go gabi

  • @darbypea2223
    @darbypea2223 Před 13 dny +1

    I need to hear your song at the end everyday

  • @iampriscillaa
    @iampriscillaa Před 10 dny

    The song ya made (BTW so random, I love it 😅) is giving me major early 2000s teen drama movie vibes...like play it in the back of one of the Olsen twin films 🎥

  • @elle2104
    @elle2104 Před měsícem +270

    I agree w/ other comments that it definitely feels like they're putting on a costume. all the classic punk bands used what they had and a style naturally emerged, 00s emo & pop punk typically only had one guy that really committed to the Look. Like ffs the lead singer of one of the biggest pop punk bands was known for wearing a trucker hat & their little sister band went full 70s beatles overnight. Even the Clash was doing reggae half the time. It's not so much the sound or look as the authenticity of their beliefs, emotions & messages, and we live in a progressively more inauthentic and irony poisoned culture where it's more hard to come by

    • @river3604
      @river3604 Před měsícem

      What bands do you mean when you say trucker hat and 70s beatles? I thought you mightve meant blink182 for the first one but I'm not sure about the second one

    • @river3604
      @river3604 Před měsícem +5

      And yes I completely agree with your point, the music all feels so inauthentic and surface level now, theres no emotion behind it

    • @Kharr
      @Kharr Před měsícem

      @@river3604trucker hat band - Fall Out Boy pre 2009, Beatles band - Panic at the Disco

    • @oliviaaa3400
      @oliviaaa3400 Před měsícem +18

      @@river3604 fall out boy - patrick had a trucker hat phase and p!atd's Pretty.Odd. is the little sister bands beatles phase

    • @Saturnthroughstars
      @Saturnthroughstars Před měsícem +5

      The fact that I understood ALL of those references 😅

  • @LunaWitcherArt
    @LunaWitcherArt Před měsícem +151

    The disconnect that some of the best emo bands back in the day dressed like the BIGGEST skater boys and not at all like the emo FANS dressed... like, my country had some pretty big national bands at the time and they ALL DRESSED LIKE SKATERS.

    • @CorinnaAtHome
      @CorinnaAtHome Před měsícem +13

      The emo of my generation was this. It wasn't even called emo yet.

    • @moodyinformed
      @moodyinformed Před měsícem +27

      Exactly. This type of fashion was called "scene" back in my teens and they were on Myspace and totally reviled lol

    • @KikiKhaosCat
      @KikiKhaosCat Před měsícem +22

      Emo originated as a term refering to hardcore bands that had 'emotional' lyrics and performances. It was kinda a derogatory term, and bands like rites of spring hated it. But the skate fashion originally comes from the hardcore orgins of 'emo' music. Hardcore bands/skaters emulated west coast street wear (cargo pants, high socks, ect). Hardcore and skating kinda goes hand in hand.

    • @MrOtistetrax
      @MrOtistetrax Před měsícem +3

      @@KikiKhaosCatNobody hates on the scenes immediately adjacent to them as hard as skate punks.

    • @obcorc
      @obcorc Před měsícem +2

      ​@KikiKhaosCat i remember learning about this when I was into hardcore. when Rites of Spring got labeled "emotional hardcore, " Ian MacKaye said something like, "... What, like Minor Threat isn't fu*kin' emotional?" That quote got me to start aprichating emo. I was like "oh, it turns out I'd been listening to emo the whole time."
      yes I'm aware of the irony of me censoring my swear words.

  • @pantsuproductions_
    @pantsuproductions_ Před měsícem +8

    You just "roasted" some of my favorite albums and artists in this video xD I love what MGK did on Tickets to my downfall. And I was so positively surprised by Demi Lovatos Rock album, etc. I personally like, that so much new Music of the pop punk/emo/etc. genre is being produced but I also get it, that some people might find it boring or generic at this point.
    I also agree with your point so strongly that people get bored when artists keep doing the same shit their entire career. That's one reason why I love BMTH so much. While they stay within Rock/Metal grounds most of the time, they still try a lot of new things!
    BTW props to the very fitting song in the end! Very cool

  • @hannahboowho4974
    @hannahboowho4974 Před 12 dny +1

    Thank you for this video! I was a little emo teen in the early 2000s and the whole point was not giving a shit what other people think. The "new" emo/alt scene especially on tik tok is so heavily pushed it loses all it's authenticity

  • @larrykeach
    @larrykeach Před měsícem +76

    “Dude, they’re just Canadian” alright that got me

  • @NicholasHoward
    @NicholasHoward Před měsícem +295

    Glad someone is putting respect on Mika's name!!!! So many bangers

    • @NicholasHoward
      @NicholasHoward Před měsícem +11

      My intro to Mika was Big Girl You Are Beautiful in Just Dance 2 on the Wii back in, what, 2011? Good times

    • @UserName-zb8ql
      @UserName-zb8ql Před měsícem

      bro stop comment botting

    • @NicholasHoward
      @NicholasHoward Před měsícem +15

      2 comments I genuinely wanted to share is bot behavior now?

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk Před měsícem +8

      I love We Are Golden. That song really puts me in a great mood.

    • @NicholasHoward
      @NicholasHoward Před měsícem +8

      yessssss and Grace Kelly... Gets stuck in my head randomly

  • @funa8843
    @funa8843 Před měsícem

    This is gonna be stuck in my head for a week thank you

  • @reesemiller3901
    @reesemiller3901 Před měsícem

    Gabi, I love this video

  • @default8522
    @default8522 Před měsícem +366

    The improvement of home recording ability is both a blessing and a curse, and part of what forces the 'inauthentic nature' of the aforementioned TikTok emo/pop-punk.
    I spent many months in the studio with various rock, punk, and metal bands over three different decades, in myriad different roles (from engineer to production to writer to session musician). Studio time used to be a limited resource, and so there simply wasn't enough time or money to have everyone nail every single part of every single song to perfection. Because of this, there's always a little roughness and sloppiness on even the most well-performed of records. That's why these things felt more authentic - everything felt like it was performed by an actual human, with their flaws and imperfections. There was a certain chaos to recording sessions, which heavily influenced the album's sound.
    It's quite obvious that the TikTok music being pushed isn't just overproduced - it's _over-protected_. Every vocal line is re-recorded until each note is perfect, and if not it's corrected until it _is_. Each rhythm guitar is repeated over and over until each chord has the exact same dynamics with no errant string nor pick noise, unless that specific section needs the noise when in that case the noise is punched in and copy-pasted for perfection every time. Every lyric is chosen specifically so it can be easily lip-read when someone mimes it on a CZcams short. Mildly controversial or offensive lyrics are discarded before they even hit the page (good luck on any modern pop-punk band releasing a song like "Happy Holidays You Bastard" or "My Vagina". Even the "small independent artists" are terribly guilty of this.
    And don't get me started on how 'self-produced' music ends up being short-hand for "I can't take feedback nor direction well".
    In the search of being the next 'viral' hit, these musicians have sacrificed the human connection of their music for glossy robotic tat, in a way that has no precedent compared to anything recorded before 2002.

    • @ILikeCornYouKnow
      @ILikeCornYouKnow Před měsícem +17

      Same thing kinda happens with movies. You look at old Doctor Who, and it looks so different because the lighting wasn't studio lights and green screens, they're actually standing in a field somewhere in Britain lit up by the sun.

    • @brion_aiota
      @brion_aiota Před měsícem +3

      Legends say I’m still waiting around for that parenthesis to end

    • @default8522
      @default8522 Před měsícem +15

      @@brion_aiota if you can convince CZcams to design their mobile app to not be a buggy piece of shit, then your patience will be rewarded. Until then you will have to make do with some grammatical errors and my entire lack of giving a damn

    • @brion_aiota
      @brion_aiota Před měsícem

      @@default8522 pssh yea right they won’t even acknowledge that people use CZcams at all, they just do things and watch everyone squirm

    • @36inc
      @36inc Před měsícem +1

      "And don't get me started on how 'self-produced' music ends up being short-hand for "I can't take feedback nor direction well". "
      you spent one half of your comment saying that hammering perfections out is taking something vital out of music- but then were supposed to care about criticisms? if mistakes are art and perfection the enemy of soul than criticism obviously fits team B there. cant have it be that dichotomic- in truth our tastes are arbitrary and criticisms are both pointless and cant be constructive. how often ive heard someone say a song they hated became bigger in their audience is proof of that. every act seems to have that song. no genre nor act and no artist can be perfect anyway- so the idea that theyve over produced is much like saying over/under rated. its not rated- you just dont agree with consensus- which in of itself is a meaningless taste and not indicative of value.
      the myth of musical soul is espoused by people too cowardly to admit that liking or not liking a noise and how we organize them is not even gradable. Gabba and noise are genres. none of this ever meant shit- the communities grow cause they can vibe with the emotions they made themselves. we can learn how to take advantage of common responces- but punk never relied on skill or talent- it was always mindlessly yelling about frustrations. finding the others lost and screaming with them. it only makes sense that that appeals to a very particular person. but all the reasons we think art works- we come up with after the fact- same with every taste- you didnt like your favorite color until you found excuses to emphasis it.
      mines green- but why? cause the hockey team i root for wears it- lukes lightsaber is that color, the goddamn trex in jurrassic park- all things important to specefically me thus green became my color. specefically the sea and teal shades- i like the ocean. but none of these greens inspire me to like green- i noticed they were green and gave em extra attention because of that. after all im from dallas- and i also like football- so why not blue or silver a color scheme famous in my home city? cause my arbitrary taste was set first. its just an emotional responce by the brain. it picks these non-useful comparisons to excuse its bias' not to explain its setting.

  • @NaranjaNeight
    @NaranjaNeight Před měsícem +224

    The outro song ATE. Hardest emo song of the summer???

  • @julianfoot8748
    @julianfoot8748 Před 11 dny

    Love your song! I'd buy it go and publish it immediately!

  • @oldnews3760
    @oldnews3760 Před 13 dny

    This is amazing just amazing