Fallout 4 - Institute Ending - All Companions Reactions
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- All companions comment on the Institute ending. Deacon and Danse are missing for story reasons. Hancock and Codsworth don't say anything here, but they comment on final Institute quest: • Fallout 4 - Companions... and destroying the Institute: • Fallout 4 - Institute ...
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I was gonna say what about deacon and danse but then...
Alexander Macrae ya
_Xandr _ Lol I did. the same
_Xandr _ If you get far enough in the brotherhood, but not too far, you'll get the mission to save Danse. Doing that mission will avoid him from getting killed by the Institute. So.....
The question is, why did Hancock not appear?
Nay Syn But Danse is not speaking with me anymore after blowing up the institute
"At least it's not raining" words to live by
+Wynter LOL
God damnit Preston
XDDD
Preston is the best :)
Hey cousin, you glad it's not raining?
Piper: People getting snatched up at night. Neightbors turning on each other.
Me: You know as leader of The Institute, I can discontinue that initiative, right?
Hmmm.... what mod can do that, if you pardon?
If there is one, I'd love to see it, cause as far as I know, it's purely Roleplaying for me.
but you cant because bethesda
Not unless the rest of the board agree, and we all know your only choices are "Let's continue with this initiative", "I don't like it, but let's continue anyway", "We really need to stop doing this, but it's for the betterment of mankind", and "Sarcastic".
But people are still going to be wary and use it to rile up tensions
"Institute rules all now. Good. Only one enemy for super mutants to destroy."
Strong is playing 4D chess
"sometimes the best strategy in war, is to wait" - Strong, The Art Of War
@@cyber1ifeconnor "you made my day 🤣" -Me, The Art Of Laughing
@@cyber1ifeconnor Strong Tsu Art of Milk
@@jasarigames4481 this 🤣🤣😂
Based strong
"Thank you, mother. You've helped a boy achieve his dreams."
You're welcome, son. I'm still blowing up the Institute next time though.
At least it’s not raining
I felt bad for him after I chose the Brotherhood.
Mark Keller or that they are a bunch of idiots who want to replace almost every human on earth with a synth. I would rather have the Enclave take over and let them deal with humanity
@@potatopotawto1412 He actually is. His appearance changes if you've changed Nora's and Nate's appearance.
Yeah. Need those achievements.
if you gain a high enough affinity with piper. she will write a paper called fear of the future. where she's more optimistic, and knows you're in charge, and trusted you with the Institute. you can find it behind nat.
cool
i never got that paper, despite romancing her. i made sure Maxson, The Prydwen, liberty prime and I (and of course piper tagging along) came out on top instead, and destroy all railroad agents, synths, feral ghouls and super mutants along the way, Although Nick and Danse can live because they help people. Ad Victoriam
+Robert Lee Ibanez Ad Victorian brother
I didn't do anything with her and I got that.
fuck. it's gamergate all over again. pipergate?
It makes me mad that "I couldn't betray my son, who is the reason I went through all this bullshit for." isn't an answer. In my mind, that's the only rational answer.
Lol same here
Yep... Shitty writing right there
And the most moralistic
@@MisterC3___ exactly, we got thrown into this new post-apocalyptic world by force, this isn't our home as it once was. The only thing that matters is the person who was forced there along with us, our son, really the only thing keeping our character sane
@@acecashman1237 and what hits hard is when you put yourself in your character's shoes. And this is what I love about Fallout and all RPGs (if you take it seriously) - it really hits you in the feels. When I first played thru F4, the BoS flowed thru my veins. I had so much pride in them in-game. I made sure my settlements (and my house in Diamond City) always had AT LEAST one BoS flag. I was so patriotic man. Then the moment that twist got me about MY SON being the leader of the enemy I was sworn to destroy, I didn't know which choice to make; rejoice with my son or stay loyal to the ones who've I've sworn myself too. And I admit, I turned my son away after of an hour of tears as well as writing down pros and cons of joining the Institute. But as I look back, and take myself out of the game and come back to the real world, I made a wrong choice in the game coz I worked so hard to find my own son just to turn my back on him. He's the reason I was able to get out of Vault 111. And most of all, he's my fucking kid! I'd turn my back on absolutely anyone just to have my son back. Even if it meant losing the ones I had by my side for so long
Preston keeping it real there. What a down-to-earth guy he is.
Philip Hunn yes he is
Philip Hunn and he’s got that rain thing right 💯
Speaking of “earth” there’s a settlement on a farm that needs your help, he’ll mark it on your map
Ooh i get it now
I hope you get the gravity of his situation
As shady as the Institute is, we could gain a huge advantage with them on our side. Settlements could use their technological advances to help defend themselves and grow more food. Please mark our settlements on their maps so they can deliver their tech to us and help protect us.
At least it's not raining-.-
defend themselves.....
then what would you do?
+Preston Garvey 'marks settlements on map' ok Garvey, now I just need to run this to the institute and they'll help right away 'relays to institute' listen up everyone, I've found some brotherhood and railroad outposts and I marked them on this map here, prepare an army of synths and a few coursers for attacking them immediately
+Stugon Monday who else but Garvey~?
they're not brains! they're brain fungi, but still I don't think eating brain fungus noodles is healthy
I side with the Institute.. Why?
Because of their aesthetics..
lol
Fr tho
Fluffy towels. That won me over. Fluffy towels.
that the same reason why people sided with the bos
+Pepperoni Milkshake and toilet paper .TOILET PAPER
Holy shit Piper's speech was heartbreaking. The voice actor did well.
kimmie ok Courtney Ford is pretty underrated
Pipers voice actor is probably the best in the game imo, when you murder someone you feel the anger
I wish I'd see more of that body language though. I was surprised how lively she was when meeting her first time in front of Diamond City, after that it was mostly just speech with body staying still.
Yea, her voice actress is great, but the character is meh. I couldn't deal with how bad she is in combat, so I stopped having her tag along.
@@rafiad5726 yeah and the voice acting was dogshit most of the time
Institute won but at least it's not raining
😭😭😭😭
I love how nick and piper just forget you ever sided with the institute after they talk about what you did.
Good ol' Bethesda
+dagoxo7arius Well, if you have max affinity with Piper, you can actually find an interesting article about you and The Institute in her house.
@Tin Watchman He knows he was made there.
Always gotta know that even if you do the worst things on earth, they will always be your best friend
@FrostBloodGames You mean " actual Fallout fan "
Duarte Santos Actual Fallout fans would say Fallout 2 was the best though.
Rather annoyed you couldn't say you did It for Shaun as that is the reason I sided with the institute
+lewis251100 Yup, also annoyed that Codsworth doesn't say anything about Shaun here, or when you talk to Shaun during the assault on the Institute, even if he's with you :(
+FluffyNinjaLlama yeah I was surprised you couldn't tell codsworth about Shaun (unless you beat the game before recruiting him I think) could of had freak out and go nuts if you kill Shaun....Anyway hopeful in far harbour DLC (or maybe one of the others) your actions in the commonwealth will be talked about and you can give "for Shaun" answer there
+lewis251100 Well, there was that one line of dialogue with X6-88 that talked about doing all of this just because you wanted your son. That's doing it for Shaun in a way, yes?
+lewis251100 I just did it because I am an asshole
Yet he murdered everyone with air fresheners
"At least it's not raining." - Preston Garvey
First comment in 3 years, you're welcome
I feel you.
What can I say, he has good priorities.
So messed up how they put so much more effort into Piper and Nick over all the other companions.
considering the other ending their being hypocrites.
They did that because Nick and Piper are directly connected to the main story
I think nicks pretty cool
You'd be surprised how much Danse and MacCready comment
I agree 100% with Piper and Nick. Humanity's Best Hope For The Future, My ass
I think Nicks just salty that you threw him off a cliff
I don't get that joke i see every where can you explain
+Fuzion_gamer omg guys he doesn't get it. This guy doesn't get it. Jokes. I don't get it either
+Fuzion_gamer She posted a video where nick almost ran off of a cliff.
Search up "Nick Valentine Falls off of a cliff" and it should be there.
GingerSwan Actually, it was the episode with Scheiffield(However you spell it) where Nick was being a jackass, and so the meme was born.
Also great job upvoting both your own comments. It's totally unnoticeable.
MacCready: "but long as you're happy, thats all matters."
Do he say this because you Romanced him or was this sentence Sarcastic?
At least it's not raining
+Beshier Zameli I think he means it either way. He's selfish and looks out for himself and the people he cares about, which includes you if you hire him. If you romanced him, great. If not, he still thinks of you as a friend.
+Andrew Shuboy Unless you royally fuck up his affinity stuff and make him at you, of course (though I'm not sure if it actually alters his dialogue at that point)
+Fuzion_gamer *audience laughter* *cues Seinfeld music*
+X-Ray Gaming cue the intro
Kinda sucks how the ending that leads to you finding and helping your son (basically the point of the game) is the one that involves stabbing your companions in the back.
you know what sucks, not being able to explain the circumstances of why you helped them in the first place
+Walter C. Dornez (The Angel Of Death) true.
Shit if it were me I'd be reassuring them, telling them how things would change
Something tells me that your son was "programmed" and taught that the Institute were the good ones and the Commonwealth were the bad ones. He was educated on propaganda and bias.
TheMasterchiefan oh yeah I'd say the Commonwealth raiders and the brotherhood are great compared to the institute
All companions lack the knowledge of what the institute was actually doing. The institute was coming up with ways to restore the old world by placing back old and extinct animals that died in the blast. They were coming up with ways to reach out to other continents. But right now you need to reach out for something else... A settlment is calling for your help, here, ill mark it on your map.
I am not gonna lie, you had us in the first half
1. They aren't brining back extinct animals they synthetic they cant reproduce that's what deacon said about his wife they were trying to have a kid but she was a synth
2.There is no evidence they were trying to communicate with other continents.
3. No
The American Rifle there’s also no solid evidence that synths couldn’t reproduce either
@@noahchmielewski1347 the gorillas were not finished, they are working to fins a way so that they can reproduce.
Bruh these mfs can teleport. Its only a matter of time before they are able to reproduce lol
The future of the fallout world will be one of cybernetic synthesis. Lol
Me: "guys, I'm the leader of the Institute, I'm going to use them to make life above ground better! "
Piper and Nick: "lol ur bad guy"
Now i feel anxious 😕
unlike you they understand that you can't control institute.
@@MsKeylas unlike you the institute also knows the sole survivor is their greatest threat and has the potential to kill them all over again.
@@fatty1040 lolwut?what are you yapping about?
@@MsKeylas common sense ya. 👏
Atleast it's not raining.
+Cuberan Water or more nukes?
The institutes dead... At least it's not raining. Now that's a better comment
+BroEdely KGM lol the institutes ALIVE
guess what, it is raining where i live
+triggerhappy0404 Always
Atleast you aren't in a bed with leaky walls/ceilings with a chance of a radiation storm passing through afterwards... :-P
London?
Must be a synth
is it still raining?
I went with the Institute because I saw it's potential. The Institute actually wants to do good, but they're so convinced that science is so powerful that it can do no wrong. They're constantly looking for science to provide answers instead of realizing that their creations are solutions in need of a problem.
It was like what Shaun said, the Institute doesn't need another scientist, what it needs is a leader. Someone who can correct the philosophical flaws and incorrect assumptions the Institute has. Someone who can take the Institute and turn it into what it was meant to be: A better tomorrow for everyone. Not just the Institute, not just the Commonwealth, but all of America.
Now if only I can get them to understand that Syths are people too... Well. I've got time. And Charisma 10.
+TheAussieBlue I do like the intentions the Institute has, but their means of going about it isn't right. I can also agree that the Institute needs a strong leader, to get it to the way it should be. I did, however, side with the Brotherhood as this group, simmilar to Lyons pride, is trying to protect the people. As I said, the Institute had good intentions, but let its creativity get out of hand.
honestly it's hard to see the Institute as bad, misguided by science maybe but not bad. they truly think that what they're doing to people is for the good of the future, so how could you expect them to understand how the people uptop feel when they're confined to living underground with less access to the outside world than vault 101.
MrOverCritical1989
Just because you have good intentions doesn't mean you can't fuck up. The most terrifying thing about Hitler was that he was actually a really nice guy. Hell the whole reason he did the whole "Murder millions of people" thing was because he thought it was the right thing to do.
Humans are complicated, and there is no such thing as a truly evil human because no sane man wakes up in the morning and says "I'm gonna be a bad guy!"
TL;DR Just because the Institute isn't evil doesn't mean they can't do terrible and stupid things.
Also, Hitler was wrong, I do not support him.
The institute does a few no nos, but on the whole and whole, they are the best option.
Also, synths aren't people.
No one gen 1 and 2 anyway
Preston also has dialogue stuff like Piper and Nick have.
Except he doesn't hate you for choosing the Institute.
+Jacob whydoesmylastnamematter No, it's about destroying the BoS with the Institute, and I already did this: czcams.com/video/qvegtYc9F3s/video.html
FluffyNinjaLlama oh shit
+FluffyNinjaLlama at least it's not raining
+Lunar. Lol
+Samus Knight I doubt he says anything special and I'm assuming he intentionally doesn't stay your companion once you follow the Railroad or Institute because he only says anything regarding the BOS or MM endings.
Oddly enough, X6 tends to glitch out and stay your companion even after destroying the Institute. I won't make him my companion because I'm afraid he'll "fix" himself, so he's on Spectacle Island with Danse tending crops.
That moment when Garvey was doing his first comment, and my mind said: "Well... At least it's not raining." Then, voilá, Garvey said one if his famous comments.
+JustSomeLeo He always looks for the silver lining;)
I think Garvey is one of the best character for his optimism. He is also the best way to level up and get some resources. I think that's why they made him to make it easier for new players of the Fallout games.
Valentin is the best companion though. I feel it gives Fallout a Sherlock atmosphere, which I like.
See I really want to side with the institute because it just seems ridiculous to throw away all that technology even if they are a tiny bit evil, but I just don't think I can handle Nick and Piper being so disappointed in me .
Same here
Nic gets over it when you do the Far Harbor DLC and he discovers that the Institute never kicked him out. Also, you can deactivate the instute sector that produces coursers and replaces people. You can also work inside the Institute to help Synths to be free. Wonder why people don't show those quests on youtube, they are pretty good.
Oh I didn't know that! thanks for letting me know, might give the institute a go.
Piper is a conspiracy nut though lol. Both Danse and MacCready saw it the first time they met her. She's good but she also likes to stir up trouble with her conspiracy theories. She's the reason for that incident in Diamond City where the guy shot his own brother because he thought he was a synth.
Kate I sort of felt bad when Nick got salty, but I found Piper irritating from the beginning so I didn't really care lol
"At least it's not raining' -Preston Garvey 2016
No its 2287
what about Deacon or Danse....... oh...right
They aren't exactly "friends" anymore
they are dead in this end
My Danse just gave me a silent treatment.... He's just chilling in planting crops with X...
Warlord X
I sided with the brotherhood and blew up the institute. I had nothing to do after that, so i got Danse, (i saved him from Maxson) took him to Cambridge police station, and let him kill Haylen and Reese. After that he stopped being my companion, left to the castle, and never talked to me ever again. I blew the Prydwen down while Danse stood there.
Thicc Brian that’s quite a tale
Happy mother's day
+Mark Jayson Miranda Yay I'm glad someone got the reference! ^^
+FluffyNinjaLlama yey!! At last Fluffy noticed me :) I love the reference u made for a mother giving anything to he's son to accomplish he's dream and goal, before the day he die :( one of a very touching moments in fallout 4..
+FluffyNinjaLlama I love your videos llama keep up the good work
+Mark Jayson Miranda OH! I didn't pick up on that until I saw this, yeah that is a good reference.
Ha, I was not the only one who got it ^^.
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!!!!
I love how everyone else (beside Strong and X6) gets mad at you, but then MacCready just says "if it's what makes you happy that's all that matters." What a chill guy.
As the head fuckin' hancho of the Institute... Why can't I give synths the rights they deserve? Why can't I give them the freedom to leave at will? Why can't I pay them like my scientists? Why can't I share our knowledge to better the lives of everyone in the Commonwealth? Why can't I bring the kidnapping to a halt? Why can't I disband the Coursers? I've murdered all my oppositionally-inclined colleagues, as well as half of Boston! For a man so unequivocally powerful in the Commonwealth, I have so very little influence over my faction. The only thing actually preventing me from doing so, is Bethesda.
+Kusagari Blues because because.........another settlement needs you're help.
+Jake Pettegrew your*
Indeed and that's the way it will stay you are a king of the board but even the king is bound by the rules of the game and you can't change the rules not unless you were the games GOD like Bethesda so tough shit really.
Kusagari Blues It is a shame isn't it? I mean the brotherhood of steel definitely have the right idea with a hierarchy of control, and how they distribute tasks to a well maintained force. I really wished as you became the general of the minutemen, you would then gain the authority to create ranks in your ever growing army, showing a sense of progression. there's certainly is potential in what Bethesda was trying to do, but it isn't quite finished to perfection.
+Kusagari Blues Kings are most definitely bound by rules. Soldiers and Citizens, if they feel their King is unfair and only serving himself can overthrow him. Thus, if a king is overstepping his bounds, he is pushed out of power. Everyone is bound by rules, from the President of the United States to a sick homeless man under a bridge.
The institute ending always bugged me because, by the end of it, *you're the freaking director*. And yet you don't get a single indication that your character is going to change anything which is a real oversight because it really puts a wedge between the playable character and the player himself.
It puts a damper on the whole RPG aspect, if they had a karma system they could ofade a good and bad ending for the institute were you either help the surface or stay closed off
@@cyber1ifeconnor the karma system is the companions. In real life morality isn’t determined by some arbitrary measurement it’s determined by other people. A jury of your peers.
It's true. You either destroy the institute without ever learning why they do what they do, or you become the leader of the institute and still never learn why they do what they do. Just because you can't ask.
Whenever they make Fallout 5, they really need to put more thought into the writing. It's pretty much the only thing that mods can't fix. Even a mod that seemingly would fix it doesn't fix it in canon.
Also that you can't really express to anybody that you literally control it now.
I am a tad interested in X6-88's say on this matter. He's a synth, but he considers the Institute's interests his own, he speaks of "us" and "our enemies." He obviously sees himself as a part of the Institute and not just a servant. He's ruthless and at times cold-hearted, but underneath all that I see someone who fights to protect what he values. There may very well be a perverse logic to his reasoning, but X6-88 seems to genuinely care about the residents of the Institute as well as his mission to protect the scientists he himself holds in high regard as revealed in various dialogues and approvals.
While he may come off as a shallow killer, I actually think he may be one of the deepest characters in the game on closer inspection. Though that is my take on the matter.
He's a gen 3 courser synth. Coursers and other gen 3's are programmed to act and be human. However gen 1 are 2 were programmed to be guards and soldiers.
Well yah, we all know that. This is not in contention. I was referring to the fact that synths are treated at times as little more than slaves in the Institute so having a synth that is an ardent advocate for the Institute, even one that is a Courser, seems an interesting new angle. It could admittedly be brainwashing, but with X6-88 I get the feeling that he is too knowledgeable for such and that he has genuine reasons for believing what he does.
+Fernando Paredes X6 can also end up changing his mind too. Harkness was a courser and he left. It's too bad you can't bring up this treatment to him.
If X6 lives to change his mind, it will be after the events of Fallout 4. At that point, you will be the Director. You know, barring that glitch were he appears outside Libertalia. Scared the crap out of my Railroad character when I saw him alive....
Fernando Paredes True but do you really have all that much power? I'm not convinced you can change the institute from the inside.
“I wouldn’t expect you to understand.”
Wow, you really are Shaun’s mom.
I wish I could gather Piper and Nick and told them why I sided with Institution despite their crimes. It'd go like this:
"Guys I did find Shaun. A 60 year old man now tho... apparently he grew up in there and became one of them, even their leader. He had a big meeting and said he was dying, then appointed me as his successor.... I couldn't say no. I plan on making sure Institution doesn't repeat the past crimes."
Sadly the game doesn't have that dialogue option. For some reason beyond my understanding, the game treats the information about what's really happening in there obscure to henchmen.
I think this lack of follow up is why people complain about player's decisions not having real impact despite the fact that you get to blow up BoS, Institution, and/or Railroad.
People are all going on about which faction is the morally right choice and all that, but I have a system when it comes to determining the right faction. It's whoever has the nicest toilets! I mean, think about it, clean toilets means that there is not only an understanding of the importance of sanitation, but also the means to do it, which is a hallmark of a functional and complex society. And the Institutes toilet's are fucking CLEAN! Everything in the damn place is clean! Therefore, the Institute, as the most advanced and civilized group in the wasteland, is the best future for humanity. Case closed.
i would not agree with u before i played this game . but now i do when i walk around the place the only thing that comes to my mind is what the fuck .
Yup.
I hope future DLC will allow you to direct the future of the Institute (or the direction of the Brotherhood, ect, depending on your chosen ending.). These idiots can't see that the Institute was the best choice, now if you can stop the directorate from kidnapping people and instead make the 'Wealth a better place (or stop the Brotherhood from ghoul genocide, ect.). The game just doesn't seem "finished" to me. Anyone else feel the same?
I'm surprised how little roleplay there is and, yes, specifically at the end of the game. The Institute has a new ruler who should be allowed to stop the kidnapping or a sentinel of the Brotherhood who may be a bit more liberal regarding ghouls or something, I'd just enjoy a bit more roleplay afterwards and not just more repeatable quests.
Yeah, I wish so too. I JUST HATE MAXSON BUT I LOVE THE BROTHERHOOD, REEEEEEEEE
+Karmic Reballance
Or if there was an option to form an alliance between the railroad, minute men and institute. You know, lead an army of freed synths to stabilize the wastelands, use institute tech to clean up the environment, that sort of thing.
+deathpyre42 If we just got stuff like this.. but they never listen us
+Karmic Reballance would be cool, but I'd love to see DLC which lets you side with the raiders or the gunners. You're not really evil if you side with any faction right now
I DIED laughing when I saw Strong's armor!
+Richard Wakefield
"Strong need milk of human kindness."
New dialogue option:
"You mad, Nick? Did you want actual skin on your body? I can make that happen. How about a whole new set of memories? How about a clean slate? How about being your own man SEPARATE from Nick? I can make that happen. You don't get it, do you? In YOU, the Institute created the gateway to immortality and the next iteration of our species. With that sort of technology, we escape death, disease, infirmity, and time. We can finally escape this planet. We can MATTER to an indifferent universe, yet you're pissing and moaning at the price. Something this huge, THIS existentially game-changing, was NEVER going to be bought without blood and if you don't understand that, I don't know what the fuck to tell you."
...You alright buddy?
o fuck off nick which leads to this dialogue
"Fuck off" Would have been my choice.
Someone got triggered because their companion didn't like the Institute....
Hey, I understand Nick. The Institute was really bad, and out of control. If you didn't know, not even Shaun could stop the production of synths. Synths that KILL PEOPLE. If Shaun couldn't do anything, I don't think that your character will.
Indeed. You CAN change the Institute's ethos; you can't replace their technology if you blow it up. As far as I'm concerned, in the right hands this would create a society of immortal cyborgs that can restore the planet better than it had been before the war or leave it for good to colonize space, and would not repeat the mistakes of the past purely because they don't have the limitations that caused old world humans to fight over resources.
I love how macready is obviously nervous and kinda scared but still sides with you.
He truly is the best companion and friend in the game.
He better be, I paid a whole 200 caps for his loyalty.
@@WannaComment2frrrrrrrrr
@@WannaComment2he pays you back at high affinity btw
First time doing Fallout 4, I felt the institute ending was more meaningful to the Sole Survivor, finding Shaun after such a long time, I felt it was more emotional and more insightful, a parent losing a child, would do anything to find it. Even if it mean't going with the kinda evil institute, I don't think it mattered to be honest in the end. A parent was reunited, and I find that the most happy ending for the sole survivor, like a weight lifted, Shaun died knowing peace.
+Bacchus And a whole continent was doomed in the progress.
+The Quarian Guy Honey the world has been doomed so many times it's hard to keep count.
+Bacchus No one...and I mean no one...Calls me honey and get awat with it *pulls out mini nuke*
*Saved
There, fixed that for you. I think you confused that with the Brotherhood.
True, but I think it was a very interesting and dynamic situation to have the Sole Survivor go through everything to find Shaun, only to side against him and destroy the Institute for the good of the Commonwealth. Almost poetic.
"You've made your choice, General. Now we all have to live with it."
Damn...those are some hard hitting words....anything else?
"At least it's not raining"
Thanks Preston
Yeah, that's what I like about Fallout endings. I think that Institute ending should be for a "lone wanderer" type of character, who understands that siding with the Institute will get him more chances to restore the world to its former glory, but others won't understand him. So if you dont care about companions and their opinions, this is a great ending.
+Arseny Zhivotov Honestly, I love travelling with companions, but they don't know what the best chance for mankind is.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens Because the BOS aren't already taking up that place. The Institute aren't angels, but they're the best hope for the Commonwealth. It's also where synths are safe, though scientists will mistreat them.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens Yet they tried to create a cure for the FEV, but that was clearly to only use for the Institute. Because that was a major problem for them. So to say that they don't care about them at all, is stupid. They also wanted to help with the CPG, but at that time their synth sent there glitched. Also, they created a cure for the FEV, they could probably make feral ghouls not feral.
Dean Kenneth Korstjens BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO CREATE A CURE!
Dean Kenneth Korstjens The cure WAS the primary goal of that project!
Normally I skip CZcams ads, but they had the trailer for Far Harbor playing and I just sat there like 🔮o🔮
+Absolia24 never skip Mr Howard's message
+jake michalak *Godd Howard
+jake michalak "It just Works"
***** see that hype train you can ride it
I want there to be a super mutant faction
yass
Yes!
why are so many people replying saying "Yis"
O wait, because they agree with me
this is the first time people liked my ideas
wow
:)
The master needs to return
alphacino hes fucking dead
becoming Director of the Institute IS the best possible outcome for the Commonwealth, assuming the Sole Survivor steers it in a positive direction. There's no reason to assume he/she couldn't, as siding w the Institute doesn't preclude you from building happy settlements on the surface.
Opposing the deeply rooted practices of a 200+ years old organization.
Sounds like the prelude to a coup.
Preston Garvey's great great great great grandfather shoves his son into their bunker with the rest of their family and friends , Preston the second says,"Dad! Aren't you gonna join us and the neighbors down here to wait out the bombs?" Preston the first looks at the sky and sees explosions off in the distance,"Its too late for me son just shut the doors." The hatch shuts and immediately turn red hot from the flames rushing over. Preston the second listens for his fathers screams but just hears a weak,"At least it's not raining"
When you side with the Institute, it never rains, because you are indoors 🤣
I respected all of them for their opinions except for Piper's and Nick's,I mean c'mon?I'm the director of the Institute and I'm pretty sure I won't snatch up people any without good reason and I will TALK to their family to agree with me,if anything,I give them a place to live in the Institute if they didn't agree with me till things get better for the Commonwealth, and also do the occasional social experiment with family members/friends who died,missing or we take them and they didn't want their families and friends to know.
ok
The Institute didn't have to do anything to the commonwealth, just resource runs every now and then with a synth or two. Instead they actively terrorize the people who live above ground, X6-88 even mentions he hates the people of the commonwealth, and scientists revolt at you even being named successor, I doubt the Institute would care for any good you try to do, and just boycott you. Say what you will about the Brotherhood of Steel, but at least their existence is a benefit to some folks.
+Brody Pullishy I think what the Institute is trying to do is to give Synths the ability to reproduce with Humans, which helps to rebuild and repopulate the earth.
Nobody Ever No, because they don't even see synths as sub-humans, they see them as property, on par with an antique table lamp
+Brody Pullishy That's the Synth's current state, what I said is what the Institute wants them to be in the future. They treat them as property because they can be dangerous if they have a normal life.
The Institute has a lot of potential especially after the end of the game, since you'd be running the damn place. You can lead the Commonwealth into an ACTUAL technological golden age but because Todd's foresight is comparable to that of Hancock's marksmanship you get this attempt to replicate a super villain trope. Hell you can even be a Caesar 2.0 but can actually have something to contribute to the Commonwealth. It's just a shame what it is, the Institute has the setup of being the most helpful faction out of all the three (lore wise) but just got side showed into a super villain kind of organization
Isnt that the worst thing? I believe the Institute under better writing wouldnt have been portrayed as blatantly villainous. I also believe a mix of Institute rule over the commonwealth with the Minutemen as the peacekeepers is the best option IMO.
Can I point out Nick wouldn't be there without the Institute?
there's an option that said you owe them life I think
You mean a bringing the thoughts and feelings of a per-war detective into a radioactive hell? Not sure that bit works.
Nick is not the guy who was alive then, he's like an echo of him. A software program of his personality not him.
Sole Survivor wouldn't be alive without Vault-Tec so I'm guessing he should be thanking them for performing experiments on them.
True, but that's like saying "You're alive because your abusive parents tolerated you." lol
Strong, you magnificent sonofabitch! One day I will have that ability to keep MY shit together.
Seriously guys, I love Strong's simpleminded reasoning becasue it resonates with my habit of always thinking logically. He doesn't overthink stuff (probably 'cause he is incapable of it) and consider the most important aspects of current events.
Buildings don't fly.
Who needs iden tee tee?
You don't want toe nails between your teeth.
Milk IS important.
Fewer different enemies are easier to fight.
We all need a little Strong in our lives, amirite?
I want to suck on strong's toes
+Johnny American dad reference
Not at all
I lock picked my way into strong's shit list and then ended him. Results may very when dealing with doses of strong in day to day activities.
Wish he was a teacher
Am I the only one who likes the Institute? And not just because of Shaun; their goals of preserving humanity in safety, continued social and technological progress, and erasure of the deleterious missteps of past societies are both noble and logical. The BoS are xenophobic and repress the progressive efforts of any who oppose them in an overly militaristic way. The Railroad are idealistic zealots who endanger their members disproportionately or even needlessly. The Minutemen... well, they're morally sound, but I have to put up with Preston. It seemed to me that the Institute was the most ethically correct in their conclusions and methods during my first playthrough; it still does. Do you agree or is my morality really that out of touch?
I agree
+Sub 452 but with the first dude
Err...what about all the people they killed and replaced? Scientist fleeing from the Institute is also a sign that something's really rotten there. Not to mention slavery! I was also tempted by their technology, but when I saw I won't be able to change their ways and that they want violence, no matter what I say as the director, they were sure to win the nuke award. Staying humane is still more important than technology.
I agree
Dylan Dugan no I like them
"At least it's not raining."
Never change Preston, never change.
Nick Valentine... broke my heart when he said "I thought you'd make the world a better place.." 😢😢😢😢
Piper's voice acting is still absolute gold.
I sided with the institute because I now have the power to make it a force for good, since i'm technically the leader of it now, I can change things for the better.
+dragontamer1012 while killing good forces on the way
well, what good has the new brotherhood actually done? also, I could tell the people of the institute to treat the synths with some respect, fulfilling the goals of the railroad anyways.
+ash ketchum BoS is good? Someone needs to check more of the Fallout lore. The BoS would have come to slaughter the Institute even if they used their technology for greater good. If you are a faction with a lot of high-tech, the Brotherhood will come for you. That's why they are so hated across the Wastelands and are on the deathbed in California. And let's not even start on Synth Genocide that they want to commit and a Ghoul Genocide that some like Hanckock are afraid of.
As for Railroad, they are Synth Liberators and an anti-Institute organization rather than a force of good and Desdemona would kill half of Commonwealth if it means saving the Synths. Destroying them is a tactical choice: if you spared them, they would make peace, pretend they are friends, turn to their back-up plan where they make their own teleporter and during Airship Down, when all Institutes's forces are fighting, invade and start a slaughter. Basically, they would abuse your trust the same way they wanted you to abuse Shaun's trust. Shaun dislikes destroying them as well, as can be seen when you kill the Railroad before "End of the Line", but that's somethign unavoidable.
At least the Railroad are prepared to die and have no civilians amongst them. The same can't be said for the other two.
+dragontamer1012 I CHOOSE THE POWER OF ATOM, MAY ALL FEEL HIS GLORY
same .
Mama murphy's final prophecy says it best. "You will not be loved, but you will save mankind, however you choose to define it"
Too bad her prophecy never foretold my character siding with the CoA and going all in as Raider Overboss to boot.
Man kind is doomed... At least its not raining.
I sided with the Institute but it would of been easy to manage peace with ALL factions with a few changes in lines of dialogue.
1: The only reason 3rd generation Synths are escaping the Institute is that Liam Binet is changing their programming. There should of been a dialogue option to inform him of the Railroad's intent and allow him to stage a breakout from within. If he destroys the Syth manufacturing process and teleports out , escaping with any free thinking synths, the Railroad will no longer have any need to exist since the source of liberated synths is gone; a peaceful end to the Railroad.
2: When the Railroad stages a sabotage attack on the Prydwen there should of been an optional choice to place the explosives on coolant tanks rather then the hydrogen tanks. With the destruction of the coolant tanks the Prydwen's engines would overheat and shutdown; it would simply descend into the harbor and submerge the lower decks stopping vertibird flights and forcing the crew to relocate to the airstrip. Without the Prydwen and the vertibird air support the Brotherhood would not be able to stage any assault on either the Institute or the Railroad.
I wish there were some mods that allowed a better range of ending options.
X6 intends to take a vacation? TO FAR HARBOR! Again, Fluffy knows just when to stop talking to Preston.
The part Nick said at the end stuck with me. Haven’t heard him say it since 2016. And I remembered it word for word.
"At least it's not raining"
Nick: you killed the brotherhood and the railroad!!! so evil!!!!!!
Railroad ending: Kill the institute and brotherhood
Brotherhood ending: Kill the railroad and institute
The very fact that everyone expect you to nuke Shaun, your very last bond to the old world and family, and side with their unknown world to you is a massive insult to a parent.
Since the Sole Survivor is the leader of the institute now, he/she can reform it from within and possibly turn it into a force of good.
As always, Nick and Piper remain the classy and committed voices of what's right.
+TheRPGenius It's just a shame you can't reform the Institute by killing the people behind replacing other people with synths.
+Vulpes Inculta Same. You are in charge, after all.
TheSkagraTwo And some would say, "they're just using you and have given you the title to keep you doing their dirty work". Well, my rebuttal would be this: if I wanted to, I could kill every last one of them and they know it.
It just had to end with at least it's not raining... It's so magnificent I love it.
+FluffyNinjaLlama I was walking around with MacCready, and if you discover the Gwinnett Brewery "near the castle" he will reference Button Gwinnett from fallout 3. I thought you would wanted to know.
I love how you can really hear the anger, frustration, and sadness in their voices. The actors did a great job
Everyone else: “you just may have doomed the commonwealth”
Preston: “At least it’s not raining”
at least its not raining
I dont understand why you can't say "i did it for my son." Because if not for him, i would have wiped the institute out.
And now imagine if it turns out he wasnt your son after all and the institute just tricked you to do their dirty work
@@captainobvious5177 for me I'm bothered how Shaun never actually bothered to look for his parents and free them from these pods. The amount of brainwashing even if the cause is good is just sick.
@@firehomefireq8 There was no brainwashing, he was simply raised in that place, he spent his whole life within the walls of the Institute and didn't know anything else, until his adulthood. He worked hard and eventually became the director.
Also he was looking for his parents (at least one, because he was at some point aware of the murder of the other one), it was actually Shaun, who released you from your pod 60 years after his kidnapping. If it wasn't for him, you would still be in the block of ice.
Thank you for your input, Strong
Story of the century: Vault dweller seeking revenge from the people who took his son, found his son and continues to finish what his son started from the institute and finallys decides the fate of commonwealth.
Every synth in the institute: *"I hEaRd ThAT SyNTh frOm LibeRtALiA wAS QuITe A HanDFuL GooD JoB!"*
More like judging by Dr. Ayo's mood I'm guessing the synth retrieval at Libertalia didn't go as planned. Something like that.
At least it's not raining. Now I just need to ask a simple favor. Another settlement needs our help. Here I'll mark it on your map.
Hype for battlefield 1 ww1
ikr
awww fuck yes day before my b-day i know what im getting! haha
+Alduin The World Eater hello brother scorpio. its a great year for us isn't it....?
it is indeed mate
I'm still playing Verdun.
Less casual.
Institute: destroys bos and rail road in the process takes over the commonwealth
Preston: at least it's not raining
"At least it's not raining"(c) - Preston Garvy
Honestly the best ending, and most likely the canon ending.
It makes the most logical sense
Sadly I doubt it, Bethesda has a huge bias for BoS...
Is this is reference to Mother's Day?
+Blue Bender Yes :) For this special occasion I decided to be a good mother to Shaun.. for once :D
+FluffyNinjaLlama omg lol for Mother's Day I didn't blow you up, your welcome
+FluffyNinjaLlama you forgot codsworth and Danse
+FluffyNinjaLlama and deacon
+psycho zombie read the description
So why are all the supposed good guys pissy about not committing genocide?
I keep asking myself the same thing. Nick, Hancock, and Curie should all especially be relieved that the Institute won, since they'd all be victims of the ensuing BoS genocide campaign. In fact, Curie should honestly be a clear Institute supporter, based on her dialogue and personality.
NotThatOneGuy Well curie outright says make sure it was worth the bloodshed, but you have guys like deacon being consistently shitty towards AI and Preston 'Focus' Garvey who don't seem to mind nuking an emergent sentient organism with genetic ties to his commander but strongly objects to defending yourself when ambushed by synths during the first BoS mission.
+MonkeyShaman yeah, I found the followers to commonly contradict themselves. For the Curie thing, she tends to dislike you helping the Institute (even when freeing a captive synth from a raider gang), but actually likes you siding with the BoS. It seems like they had a bit of an identity crisis in FO4. They partly took step towards making the morality of the factions more ambiguous, but also had companions heavily pushing you to dislike the institute.
Institute are like the "Nazis" in the eyes of the commonwealth. For decades people have been telling horrible stories about the Institute and the Institute has done things that helped fuel/support some of those stories. Sure a lot of the gossip about the Institute isn't real but how do the common people know that? Most Companions logically would not be happy for helping the Institute, regardless whether the Institute are good or bad. It is like if you present a picture of a man in SS uniform and ask someone what they think of that man just by looks/affiliation. Then after they comment you tell a story of how that individual was actually a very good person. That is kind of how the commonwealth views the Institute. Just helping them, just being one of them makes you bad in their eyes.
It is why I like the Institute so much. They're hated, but most of that hate is based off of rumors/gossip more than fact, when you get to know the institute it's quite a different story, save for some really bad things they did do.
***** This is true. Starting out, I totally took everything that Nick said about the Institute for fact and hated them. But with all the facts on the table, the Institute really isn't that bad at all. Their logic is sound and 99% of their faction are actually really good people. The bad things they did are also still pretty much shrouded in mystery (as far as their intentions and thought processes at the time go).
Companions like Curie haven't been exposed to the Commonwealth rumors before you came along, so I figured out of all of them, she should be a bit more analytical about how she forms her opinions. Regardless, I was just a bit disappointed you could never explain the misconceptions they have or correct the outright false accusations (Nick is proven wrong about almost everything he says about the Institute, but you can never tell him that).
It just seems like with companions this complex, they should've included some character development with them to take into account how "grey" these factions' moralities are.
The perfect ending for me would probably be taking over the institute after your son dies but not destroying any factions, then I'd tell the railroad that the institute is under new management and synths won't be forced to do anything against their will and hopefully the railroad would merge with the minutemen. Then there would be two options for the brother hood, either convince them to ally with you or take over liberty prime and the prydwen without destroying them. The minutemen/railroad would protect the common wealth with the aid of some synths, the institute would produce new technology for the commonwealth and creat armies of mark 2 synths so no people will have to die fighting. The prydwen would then be used to travel throughout America and secure the country, protect people and build new and bigger settlements. Finally, a battalion of minutemen synths would be given to Preston so he could tell them when a settlement needs their help.
The way that Nick responded would have been exactly what I would have said.
Father: I think I’d like to sleep now
BLEGH
*Goes ragdoll*
The one with Preston reminded me of the scene in Anchorman 2 where Brick said a really inspirational quote and they ask him if he really just said that and then he went on to say something along the lines of “I️ like cats”
Damn, Nick hits the nail on the head with this one.
dammm that @SS
lol
+enpoping what ass
she has no ass you fucking low test virgin
Father literally kills the other vault members out of a need to "tie up loose ends". Am I seriously the only one that usually kills him? He's a sociopath of the highest order.
How can Father be to blame for that when he was literally a baby present at the very scene when Kellogg disabled the life support? Not to say the Institute hasn't done terrible things under Father's watch, but he definitely isn't responsible for that one.
Lol your character is looking good with those mods... real fire 😂😍
if theres one thing that we all took from this its that we are grateful for the lack of rain.
THIS BLOWS. Why can't you tell them the truth about Shaun, tell them that you are now the director. That's ridiculous
MacCready sounds heartbroken. Piper and Nick's reaction is why I'd never side with the Institute unless I'm going for an asshole playthrough.
No good deed goes unpunished.
No one
How much of a good deed is it, though? You've given up on the Commonwealth. You're enslaving sentient beings. In the name of what, exactly?
No you aren't. You are empowering the institute to make people's lives better. So what if they replace some random Johnny every once in a while?
No one
How, exactly? How are they making life better? All they're doing is advancing what they can with the science left over at CIT. I've never seen them give back to the Commonwealth, only take without consent.
+27Nichy They are the only people that can restore the world and make it back to what it was with their advanced technology. They also have cures to many illnesses and can prolong life. With you working alongside many other great scientists I'm sure you realistic lot would be able to bring lots of good to the commonwealth.
When i first played fallout, i remembered stalling by doing various quests around the commonwealth before making my final decision on which faction i was gonna side with, eventually, FOR SOME REASON, i decided on the Institute
I still havent forgotten my conversation with Nick
"Atleast it's not raining... Or else you would have to help this settlement in need. Here, I'll mark it on your map."
I felt like shit when Nick Valentine bashed me for joining the Institute. I mean couldn't I have told him that because I was in charge, I would ensure that the Institute pursue only moral practices?
ikr. At least he never brings it up again. I think he still likes the Sole Survivor as a person, but doesn't agree with their decision. my 1st playthrough I sided with institute and I felt so bad after talking to Nick and Piper that I deleted that whole save file. The only way I can justify siding with Institute is either you're role playing a character who really likes science, is used to making sacrifices for greater good (if you buy into that) or if they simply don't care
+insanegames on my Heisenberg charecter i help institue for materials and armor and because he's Heisenberg
+lava bomber YO BITCH xD
When I sided with Institute, Danse didn't go missing; he's still at the last settlement I left him. He just won't join you as companion anymore & no dialogue other than trade option.
Strong's Milk Armour is absolutely fantastic 😂
Aww piper's response was so sincere