Beware of overusing your impact driver! (Are cordless drills better?)

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  • @MrShelzy
    @MrShelzy Před 4 lety +52

    Your vids are so well written and produced, you’re a wealth of information that’s relevant and accurate. Thanks for all you do!

  • @steveelves3499
    @steveelves3499 Před 4 lety +59

    The Phillips screw was originally designed for use in the early automobile assembly lines. There was no clutch or torque settings on the drivers, so the screw head and bit were designed specifically to "cam out" before the sheet metal or wood was damaged. They haven't changed much over the years, and the "self-stripping" feature is a source of endless frustration. I will NEVER use a Phillips head screw on anything, period. I always use a Robertson (square) or Torx screw. For one thing, the screw will stay attached to the bit in any orientation, so you only need one hand for the driver. Electricians LOVE the Robertson - they can hold an electrical box against a stud with one hand and drive the screw with the other. Personally, if I never saw another Phillips screw I would be very happy!

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 Před 4 lety +2

      Torx heads certainly are more common these days, and I prefer to use them too: way easier to position, and almost impossible to strip. With that said... I too have twisted off the head of screws (Torx and Phillips) using my impact driver. One day I had to screw in a ton of screws putting in a new floor, but only brought the cordless drill so I used that (probably was a lot easier on the downstairs neighbours...) That went so well that I never went back to the impact driver for all but the harder jobs.
      Funny thing, I too got my impact driver packaged with the cordless drill (a DeWalt). I thought it was some special promotion but apparently it's a common combo.

    • @Just1Spark
      @Just1Spark Před 4 lety +1

      Agreed. Square head is far superior to all other screw heads. Especially phillips! I converted years ago. I cant stand phillips!

    • @actionjksn
      @actionjksn Před 4 lety +1

      @@furtim1 the torx head that he mentioned is a star head. Torx is the correct name of it.

    • @georgedennison3338
      @georgedennison3338 Před 4 lety +1

      @ Steve
      Here's a second on gawd damn Phillips screws, then to add even more frustration, there's the Japanese phillips, I think it's technical name is JIS, (japanese industrial screw). You ever wonder why all of a sudden your brand new phillips bit just goes to shit. Then works fine a month later when you're forced to use it, cause you didn't resupply?
      Yep, JIS has struck. Their depth is different, and a traditional phillips bit doesn't work worth shit. IF you happen to find a JIS bit, the combo is better than regular phillips, but try to find a JIS. Might as well look for unicorns!

    • @loktom4068
      @loktom4068 Před 4 lety +3

      Robertson are Canadian invention. Henry Ford and other auto makers and other US manufactures refused to pay for the patent rights reserved. They go around it by inventing cheap clumsy Philip head patent and create low cost to manufacture them. Since US has the dominance over Canadian industries it became the most popular use for US over the superior Canadian Robertson.
      The rest were history till today.

  • @RedWingsninetyone
    @RedWingsninetyone Před 4 lety +82

    The first time I saw an impact driver being used, I thought the person was stripping the hell out of whatever they were screwing.

  • @SaintCronch
    @SaintCronch Před 4 lety +49

    The impact driver is a savior when it comes to old rusty screws thats stuck in machines

  • @SteveH-TN
    @SteveH-TN Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for sharing this video I’ve had cordless drill drivers for 10 years but today I purchased my first cordless impact driver, not that I require or need one but to learn.
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, experience and expertise, 😃
    I appreciate you clarifying how the drill & impact drill resulted in me actually learning something.

  • @jimbo2629
    @jimbo2629 Před 4 lety +1

    Drill with clutch for woodworking. Impact driver and ear defenders for building site. Screwdriver for fine woodworking.
    Comprehensive video. I love square head for joinery and slotted brass for cabinet making. Square head difficult to find. Phillips in the big stores is common.

  • @ahmedlahlou8123
    @ahmedlahlou8123 Před 2 lety +6

    James ! You are clearly gifted for both woodworking and video making. But gifted is not enough to produce such high quality and consistency through the years. Hard work is definitely the biggest part of what you do. You had a real impact on my life through my job and i can't thank you enough. Thank you James , sincerely and genuinely !

  • @carolynpatterson567
    @carolynpatterson567 Před 3 lety +3

    I am an old woman with little practical experience but I have no help so now I’m doing all kinds of projects. Your explanations were so clear and thorough that even I could understand and learned a lot. Thanks

  • @czebemarci
    @czebemarci Před 3 lety +4

    You're the definite source of truth. I have the same feeling about impact drivers...kind of useless in a cabinet shop. But it's great to hear the same opinion from you.

  • @nezrub
    @nezrub Před 2 lety +2

    I just happened onto this video; but your clear and concise presentation style hooked me in the first few minutes. Anybody can post videos on CZcams, but you're the real deal. I will definitely be back to see some of your other topics. Thank you!

  • @iamobserving9917
    @iamobserving9917 Před 4 lety +34

    I am an old geezer with a wood shop most of my life. I’ve had the opportunity to also learn welding, electrical, mechanical, hydraulics, carpentry and many other hands-on operations.
    However, I still consider myself a student to many things in life.
    Your videos are very good learning tools. You explain things better than many instructors online and I appreciate that. I’ve never been confused after watching your instructional videos.
    You do a good job at “teaching old dogs new tricks“.

    • @janicebrowningaquino792
      @janicebrowningaquino792 Před rokem

      Smart man-ALWAYS room for all us older ones to learn new things! It’s delightful actually 😊!

  • @brianj8451
    @brianj8451 Před 4 lety +12

    I’m a electrician and have switched to my impact driver paired with a self feeding bit (i.e. Irwin speedbore or Bosch daredevil) to bore my holes for cables. For two good reasons! 1: It takes almost no effort with the combo of the self feed bit and impacting mechanism. 2: I never have to worry about burning out my drill on a large bit again. And 3: I don’t have to worry about the bit catching and hitting my hand or face again! I’m sure there are guys scoffing at me but hey it works! Great video!

    • @chrishughson4511
      @chrishughson4511 Před 4 lety +1

      @Brian J I've used my impact driver the same way with Rigid self feeding bits. I find that the impacts spit chips out with such force that they sting your hands, and even with safety glasses on you don't want to get hit in the face with one. Maybe different brand bits work differently, but watch out whatever you do.

    • @brianj8451
      @brianj8451 Před 4 lety +1

      Chris Hughson huh! I’ll steer clear of them if I can! Thanks for the heads up If you haven’t tried them yet the Irwin speed-bore has been an awesome set for me. They work perfect every time.

    • @ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115
      @ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115 Před 4 lety +2

      @@brianj8451 the irwin aug dogg is supreme. I always make my own names, I prefer it that way.

  • @Samcraftcom
    @Samcraftcom Před 4 lety +4

    Been using them for years, but never really understood the torque vs. hammering actions until now. Thanks!!!

  • @ajhieb
    @ajhieb Před 4 lety

    It's always validating when I see the title of your video and you give the exact same examples I immediately think of. And yes, I had one of those old Makita cordless drills *AND* the matching trim saw that went with it.

  • @badger0888
    @badger0888 Před 4 lety +6

    Great video as always. Impact comes out for construction work-- long, strong screws and bolts. Can't beat it for power and speed. But I tend to use my drill more for daily repairs and small projects. I love the mechanical clutch. Much more precise and predictable. It's a more universal tool with an infinite number of bits, boring, sanding attachments.

  • @k.b.woodworker3250
    @k.b.woodworker3250 Před 4 lety +1

    Rarely use impact drivers. I frequently use a gyro rechargeable cordless screwdriver. My Black and Decker model isn't made anymore, and when the battery finally dies, I'll find a replacement. It's good for pocketholes for the reason you mention. It's even better for small screws like those for drawer slides, where even a drill on a low setting can be too much and too bulky. Using a non power screwdriver for a lot of little screws is too much. Excellent video, confirmed why I don't use the impact driver for woodworking. I'll think of it next time there's a diy project, though.

  • @mohsenattar1890
    @mohsenattar1890 Před rokem

    Honestly I love watching your videos. You are obviously incredibly knowledgeable and you have a very charismatic way of explaining it all in simple to understand English.

  • @huskergator9479
    @huskergator9479 Před 3 lety

    Dude you are a VERY good teacher. I appreciate your word pictures, and your delivery is impeccable. So glad i found your channel.

  • @howardhardy1992
    @howardhardy1992 Před 4 lety +3

    Impact drivers are amazing for driving construction screws. I wish they would have been around when I was working in construction. You are absolutely correct that they are not the best and maybe even the worst for many situations. There is no magical one tool that is best for everything. Part of the reason they manufacture and sell many types of had screwdrivers. When I started working as a carpenter one of the best screw driving tools was a Yankee screwdriver. I still have and use a couple of them. One must know the difference of when you need strong driving power and other times that you need finesse.

  • @SawdustandSparkles
    @SawdustandSparkles Před 4 lety +4

    Great video! When I first started woodworking, I learned the hard way that impact drivers are the wrong choice for pocket holes! And sadly, it took more than one flawed project before I realized that there wasn't something screwy with my pocket hole depths or screw length that was causing my screws to punch through my joints. Once I switched over to the drill and set the clutch appropriately, pocket holes were a lot more fun.

  • @scarybusey
    @scarybusey Před 4 lety +12

    Had my impact driver for 12 years and it's outlived all my other cordless tools. Only ever broke bits when fixing hardwood, but my cordless drill would never have driven the screw in regardless of the amount of pressure applied.

    • @irishannie66
      @irishannie66 Před 4 lety +2

      I've had mine about 10 years and only had to replace the spring this year. I don't believe I'll ever need another one.

  • @rallen7660
    @rallen7660 Před 4 lety +2

    At my last work place (a reman factory) we used impact drivers exclusively for disassembly, and torque drivers (basically corded drivers with really accurate and calibrated clutch mechanism) for re-assembly.

  • @Maltloaflegrande
    @Maltloaflegrande Před 3 lety +1

    It's worth adding that sometimes, you're better off leaving both machines alone and using an old-fashioned manual driver e.g. kitchen fitting. The problem with drill/drivers before impacts became common was that at least 50% of the carpenters I worked alongside insisted on having it permanently on the fast setting intended for drilling thus manking up screwheads and resulting in screws going in too far/not far enough. When forced to use a drill/driver for screwing, I try to remember to stop-start with the trigger rather than just squeeze it and go; this achieves the same relocating function as mentioned here as an advantage of the rattler.

  • @dscrive
    @dscrive Před 4 lety +18

    My impact driver (somewhat older craftsman c3) has three power settings, at the lowest it'll only drive a screw through an almost too big hole in wood, at the middle it'll put a screw down to the surface of the wood, and at max, if I want to, I can put a screw, head and all, through a 2x4 :D
    One really really great thing I've found out about an impact driver is it actually works fairly well on slot screws.

    • @MrEyesof9
      @MrEyesof9 Před 4 lety +1

      dscrive there are a few other brands with multi settings on the impacts, great feature

    • @brandonm7863
      @brandonm7863 Před 3 lety +1

      Love using my impact to bury big deck screws through fence rails or H braces! Notch the joint with the chainsaw, sink a screw an inch or two below the surface to get enough bite into the post to hold it then properly secure it with smooth wire. Even my corded drill struggles to sink those screw heads.

  • @nevermindthebull0cks
    @nevermindthebull0cks Před 4 lety +3

    I saw my first cordless impact on a hotel I was wiring, the hvac guys had them and were nice enough to let me use it a bit.
    I bought one the next day. So much easier to screw on boxes and the battery lasted way longer than in my drill.
    I have had the small 10 v makita for years and years now, I use it in the wood shop all the time. I not use the 20v dewalt in the wood shop though, it has a bit too much power for anything but lag bolts and torx screws.

  • @gregmislick1117
    @gregmislick1117 Před 4 lety

    Nice simple description in the difference in the actions of each tool with respect to the bit. Thanks again!

  • @humbertosamaniego2167
    @humbertosamaniego2167 Před 3 lety +1

    Very informative. I certainly appreciate the thought that goes into every video. Although I’m intimately familiar with these two types of drivers, I appreciate the articulation stumpy nubs provides.

  • @shmuelsoifer7131
    @shmuelsoifer7131 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for providing so much free information on your channel it's amazing,
    I would like to share my experience with impact drivers, in the 10 years I'm using them I've learned that ther is several kinds of impact stronger and weaker impact a especially with some companies when the battery low is low impact is lower
    (I have seen people managing the control of the impact to the exact point)

  • @johnford7847
    @johnford7847 Před 4 lety

    Thank you. I had no practical idea of what the differences were. You explained things quite clearly.

  • @mics3747
    @mics3747 Před 4 lety +33

    Good to know I’m not the only one who rarely uses impact drivers. I use regular drills so I know when screws hit knots or other tough areas. I want to feel when screws get tight, and impact drivers simply hide that helpful information...

    • @ericmann1781
      @ericmann1781 Před 4 lety +1

      Same thing here, I always wondered why they are so popular if my experience has been sort of crap compared to a normal drill.
      But then I got the 12v milwaukee fuel kit and speed 1 does the trick for light woodwork but I still need the drill most of the time since I don't want to break my ears.
      And then I tried the new surge drivers at a Milwaukee tool event and wow....now I'm just waiting for a free battery promotion and maybe, once and for all, I will actually use a driver for all my screwing needs lol

    • @mics3747
      @mics3747 Před 4 lety

      Eric Mann Will any impact drivers give you immediate feedback (by rotating the driver) if the screw hits a knot, different screw or any area of resistance? Pilot hole sizes are often just a guess, so trial and error with a standard drill seems safer than using a impact (with no feedback).

    • @zack6892
      @zack6892 Před 4 lety

      I'm pretty much the same although I usually use my impact on tasks where I may be setting a handful of fasteners and where setting flush isn't going to be a big deal. If I'm doing bulk fastening or finish work my dcd996 is my go to drill driver it will set screws much faster with the clutch dialed in as well as much more accurately!

    • @googlesucks100ballsandshaf6
      @googlesucks100ballsandshaf6 Před 3 lety

      I disagree. Just as you use your drill I can say the same for my impact driver. I have a feel for the tool and know when to stop.

    • @MrPawPaw
      @MrPawPaw Před 3 lety +1

      @@googlesucks100ballsandshaf6 I have to 100% agree with you. I use a drill to.....drill holes. I use an impact driver to drive in fasteners. I use it everyday. I used to use a drill with the clutch until I bought my first impact many years ago. It was so night and day different that to use a drill now to run in screws just seems ackward and slow.

  • @j.w.m.rhynejr9766
    @j.w.m.rhynejr9766 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the breakdown on the use of these tools! Great info to save wear and tear on drill and impact driver!

  • @awlthatwoodcrafts8911
    @awlthatwoodcrafts8911 Před 4 lety +1

    I had been using an old B&D drill (with variable speed) to do all my drilling and screwing until a couple of years ago when I got my first cordless drill and impact. Just like you, James, I thought it was going to be great to not have to switch out bits. I quickly learned that the impact was too much tool for driving screws. I absolutely love using the drill to drive screws. I can go so slow and still have the torque to do the job.

  • @Hudson4426
    @Hudson4426 Před 4 lety +17

    My impact driver has a “soft” feature that keeps you from over driving screws... it cuts the power when it feels too much resistance... works really nice

    • @edreusser4741
      @edreusser4741 Před 2 lety +1

      please don't keep us in suspense! what kind of impact driver do you have"

    • @Hudson4426
      @Hudson4426 Před 2 lety +2

      @@edreusser4741 dewalt… but I think many do it now

    • @johnsipes4422
      @johnsipes4422 Před 2 lety

      @@Hudson4426 is it the 20v xr? I have one and it’s got 3 speeds and speed one does sorta what you said yours does

    • @Hudson4426
      @Hudson4426 Před 2 lety +1

      @@johnsipes4422 yes.. that’s the one… speed one seems like it cuts power.. it’s making sure it doesn’t strip the screw

    • @johnsipes4422
      @johnsipes4422 Před 2 lety

      @@Hudson4426 yeah I love it. It’s got 20 ft pounds of torque in the first setting so it just isn’t enough to strip anything. Great impact

  • @mattberg6816
    @mattberg6816 Před 4 lety

    Stumps awesome breakdown and I was super into impacts around 2008 but since then I only run a 12 volt makita drill. Outside my cabinet shop I do use pre-torqued air tools on setting fasteners

  • @greatbigz
    @greatbigz Před 4 lety +1

    I just recently switched back to using my drill or my cordless screwdriver for most screws. I like the control I get when I'm doing my woodworking projects. I only break out the impact driver when I have some big screws to drive.

  • @georgezammit7369
    @georgezammit7369 Před 4 lety

    Thanks! I don’t use my impact driver very much because of the things you said. And you said and explained it very well! Cheers!

  • @albe23
    @albe23 Před 4 lety +1

    My Milwaukee Surge impact has gone from driving lags to fixing cheap RC cars with no issues. 4 settings, softer impacts due to using hydraulics not hammers, and a variable speed trigger has never left me wanting for more control. My drill sees rare use outside of making holes since I got that impact. Much quiter to boot.

  • @jeremybroussard1501
    @jeremybroussard1501 Před 3 lety

    Great video! I was just about to do my first pocket hole project and guess what. Impact driver is my screw runner of choice! You probably just saved me a LOT of headache. Love this channel, please keep it coming.

  • @rex0370
    @rex0370 Před 2 měsíci

    Very well done. I really like how thoroughly you cover the material. Great job!

  • @leeh9420
    @leeh9420 Před 4 lety

    Clear and interesting. I'd sorta vaguely figured that out, but it was great to hear the differences concisely. Thanks!

  • @jlh5995
    @jlh5995 Před 3 lety

    Hey James, thanks for the video tutorial on the difference between using a normal drill vs an impact driver,

  • @silvermediastudio
    @silvermediastudio Před 4 lety +34

    The newer teal impact drivers have torque settings marked the same as the drill.... screw, bore, and nuclear apocalypse.

    • @armandogonzalez6822
      @armandogonzalez6822 Před 4 lety +2

      800lb Gorilla nice name
      You watch AVE or did you randomly think of that name

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio Před 4 lety +7

      @@armandogonzalez6822 Thanks... 800lb Gorilla comes from an old saying/joke, "Where does an 800lb Gorilla Sit? Anywhere he wants." To mean someone/something so big and powerful, that they have little to no regard for the rights or laws of others and simply do as they please. Not to be confused with "elephant in the room" or "bull in a china shop" which are similar but different idioms. But yes big fan of AvE too keep yer stick on the ice. ;)

  • @raid7866able
    @raid7866able Před 4 lety

    Great video, I've been enjoying the benefits of a cordless impact and drill combo for around 20 years now! I have an original ni-cad ridgid set. One of the things I love about ridgid was the new lithium ion batteries fit the old tools. They all still work great, which is surprising because they served me 14 years as a professional plumber, and it was a hard life for them. They got thrown in a van everyday and worked in the mud and dirt. I've never rebuilt them, they are however very bulky. I have a new brushless set now. You gotta get those! What a Ferrari!

  • @bluewren65
    @bluewren65 Před 4 lety

    Really great and concise review of the differences between these two.

  • @EmmyDereest
    @EmmyDereest Před 4 lety

    Great info! I've always wondered just what tasks these guys were supposed to be used for, I admit I tend to only use mine as a backup "can't find my drill" tool.

  • @xoxo2008oxox
    @xoxo2008oxox Před 4 lety +2

    I was just experiencing this! My impact was torqing off the screw heads on some Pressure Treated 6x6. When I switched to my drill/driver, it went without issue.

  • @prestonangstrom2999
    @prestonangstrom2999 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello Stumpy Nubs!
    First time commenting. I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. I'm a little embarrassed to say this, but I've been over using my impact driver simply because the bit was much easier to change; vice using my cordless drill. Thanks to this video, I will be changing that.
    I enjoy learning from your videos! You do an excellent job of relaying a lot of quality, technical information. Keep 'em coming!

  • @timatkins860
    @timatkins860 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video. Just perched a DeWalt 20v set. I’ve come to the same conclusion but it’s nice to get confirmation from someone I trust.

  • @mulldennis
    @mulldennis Před rokem

    Your definaition is absolutly informative. Covered all my questions.

  • @johnscott6422
    @johnscott6422 Před rokem

    I stumbled on this tutorial, excellent information, smartly presented, and I learned a lot, thanks! I have one of those Impact and drill driver sets, I'll definitely be more selective in the future before I jump to my Impact driver. Recently Installing a lot of sheet rock late at night, I started to use my old corded Dewalt drill to keep the noise levels down, I found the added tork on that to be a surprise, so much more powerful than my older cordless drills, good to have a selection of tools to choose from.

  • @nw24153ns
    @nw24153ns Před 4 lety +2

    and for these reasons I use my corded drill for drilling and my cordless drill for screws, I just never spent the time to analyze what and why I do these things. But thanks to you and this video I can now educate and explain my rationale to my friends and siblings.

    • @mitchjohnson4714
      @mitchjohnson4714 Před 3 lety

      I thought I could use my corded drill as a driver. I learned the hard way that they have no clutch and lots of inertia!

  • @ceriwilliams9114
    @ceriwilliams9114 Před 3 lety +1

    Your tip on pocket holes was obvious after I heard you, I just thought that I was heavy handed. Great videos always informative and light hearted.

  • @wscottcross4012
    @wscottcross4012 Před 4 lety +1

    I just experienced the very problem you described with overdriving pocket screws this past week. Sort of eery that you published this video so close to my experience but so true. I think I will dedicate one of my cordless drills to most of the non-construction screw driving duties.

  • @GetBant
    @GetBant Před 4 lety

    This is the first video I’ve seen of yours. You remind me of the engineer guy. Which is a good thing. The way you talk. The Information you give and the way you show things off is wonderful. Thank you

  • @tinksfawn08
    @tinksfawn08 Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much for these detailed, straightforward explanations!

  • @snakerstran9101
    @snakerstran9101 Před 4 lety

    Excellent tutorial and well said. I work with a lot of small engines and the same issues pertain. Lots of steel, aluminum and plastic. Even the hardware varies, from solid bolts to self tapping snap off specials. I lean towards the power tools due to limited use, wrist problems. I have found that the impact can be the best choice for unscrewing to break the hardware free and spin off with the least damage to the parts and the hardware corners vs a screwdriver or ratchet driver. I don't recall ever snapping off hardware with the impact. Tightening is another matter. I won't use the impact on tightening for any sort of normal situation on the smaller hardware. It's the drill/driver with clutch or by hand.

  • @beardeddragonwood
    @beardeddragonwood Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this video! For pocket holes I have switched to boring holes with a corded drill and driving the screws with a cordless w/ clutch. Too many instances of over- or under- driven screws with the impact because I couldn't feel when it bottomed out.

  • @SceneryFarm
    @SceneryFarm Před 4 lety

    I agree with you- completely.
    Thank you for what you do.
    James

  • @mattg6262
    @mattg6262 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this informational video. No new info for me but it's definitely going to help someone. It should be added that modern impact drivers also have a shutoff clutch feature to remedy overdriving. Super handy for screwdriving functions.

  • @synthwave7
    @synthwave7 Před rokem

    Well explained. One thing - many professionals say that an impact wrench drills holes in masonry much easier than any impact drill does.

  • @muslixrex
    @muslixrex Před 4 lety

    Excellent communication. Clear, organized and efficient speaking style.

  • @lecilalexander8374
    @lecilalexander8374 Před 4 lety +10

    Great explanation on the use these tools. Milwaukee has an M12 screwdriver tool that is now available. It is just like their M12 drill except it has a 1/4” hex driver for the chuck.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy Před 4 lety +6

      I use a 12-volt screwdriver when installing radios in cars. This is not a situation where loads of power and torque are your friend. A lightweight tool that can get the job done fast is what you need. A 20v Impact driver would just end up ripping the dash apart.

    • @gregmislick1117
      @gregmislick1117 Před 4 lety +1

      I find that the M12 1/4" impact driver, when set on the lowest setting gives you a lot of the feel back, once you go up to #2 or heaven forbid #3, it's just out the wang fansters into substrate. The smart setting for self tapping sheet metal screws is interesting as well.
      That said, the drill/driver is still king for small screws ... the impact tool is king for REMOVING screws, especially deck screws from PT wood - I've stopped stripping heads on the older square-philips deck screws that I still have boxes and boxes of.
      Every tool has it's place.
      Now to find one of these intriguing M12 screw drivers......

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy Před 4 lety

      @@gregmislick1117 I'm using the Harbor Freight version. I view it as a fast screwdriver so it doesn't need to be the world's highest quality tool.

    • @spencerrobinson5385
      @spencerrobinson5385 Před 4 lety

      @@gregmislick1117 Lecil is talking about their M12 "Ratcheting screwdriver", (2406-20 is one of 3 models), not their new 4 speed impact driver. These screwdrivers have about 14 settings and work great.

  • @colemine7008
    @colemine7008 Před 3 lety

    The first clutched drill I had was the drywall drill, it was corded. I only recently started to buy tools that were not corded. This was an excellent explanation of the driver drill.

  • @rcytb
    @rcytb Před 4 lety

    Thank you. You completely explained the difference between a hammer drill and an imapct driver, something that had confused me.

  • @chuckwheeler8259
    @chuckwheeler8259 Před 4 lety

    Great video Stump. I am guilty of using the impact drill on some of you woodworking projects. I learned something today.

  • @TigerCarpenter
    @TigerCarpenter Před 2 lety +1

    I needed this analysis as we speak.
    I only have a Dewalt hammer/drill/driver, which is really good for all the tasks I perform.
    however it annoys me when I have to keep swapping the drill bits for the screw driver bit.
    I decided to look into the impact drivers, and after few hours of research I figured, it doesn't have that adjustable torque clutch to disengage rather than keep going and either drive the screw too deep and damage the material or damage the head of the philips screw.
    I think I will simply buy another drill/driver (same one) and that will allow me to drill 2 sizes holes without swapping the drill bits, or to use one as a screwdriver.
    I will wait for a few days just in case someone wants to change my mind.

  • @ucitymetalhead
    @ucitymetalhead Před 4 lety

    I actually learned a lot from this video. I've definitely seen the power of an impact driver before when it drove some screws in like they were going through air.

  • @acraftman2823
    @acraftman2823 Před 4 lety +6

    Surprise practice makes a lot better if not perfect, I use my impact all the time and have gotten the feel for it to the degree I use it for hanging drywall and not puncturing the paper.

    • @acraftman2823
      @acraftman2823 Před 3 lety

      @St Mario And yet the world still revolves

  • @johnobiro5202
    @johnobiro5202 Před 2 lety

    Great tutorial, very articulate. Thanks, I learned a lot.

  • @alec4672
    @alec4672 Před 4 lety

    My dad worked construction all my life and I remember the first time he brought home a impact driver. I absolutely loved it and swore by it always it, I was 8 or 9 at the time and the impact was perfect for my week little arms. I eventually got into the habit of using it and gained quite fine control over the makita I eventually got for Christmas (not new kinda newish my dad found it on a job and it had a case an all conveniently close to the holidays, it started my makita fanboyship)I could drive a screw and only let the hammer in the impact hit once every time for finer work well as fine as an 8yr old work can be. I've recently gained new appreciation for the cordless drill, specially the new brushless ones the torque is so consistent at any speed it's really quite amazing the amount of control you have with a drill vs a impact is impeccable.

  • @calebcotter2850
    @calebcotter2850 Před 4 lety

    I have never had a problem using the impact on pocket hole joints but I did screwing Into hardwood. I broke three screws in a row on a maple bench. Now I know why. Thanks Stumpy.

  • @petermiddo
    @petermiddo Před 4 lety

    Another great video, thanks for the advice. Id always heard that impact drivers werent the best but was never given as full of a descriotion why to stop. I never fully understood why so I continued to use mine. Now I know why, and that the reason makes so much sense, I shall stop using it.

  • @martinhawrylkiewicz2025
    @martinhawrylkiewicz2025 Před 6 měsíci

    Very nice vid! I really love woodworking as a hobby and diy repairs around the house using only hand tools. Got myself a compact 12V Dewalt drill and really love it for all my wood aplications. People tried to convince me to get an impact driver but i dont really need one. My drill makes pilot holes and drives small srews in ( 2" or less).

  • @chapbix12158
    @chapbix12158 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the tip on not using an impact driver for pocket hole joinery!

  • @Beandiptheredneck
    @Beandiptheredneck Před 4 lety +3

    I do tend to disagree, I use a drill for only what it’s name suggests, drilling holes. My impacts, both 20Vmax dewalts are my go to for everything else, once you get used to the trigger and the feel of the torque you can use them for anything

  • @vertigo72480_official
    @vertigo72480_official Před 4 lety

    Been using that set of Porter Cable 18v tools since 2007. I'm just about ready to retire them. The impact has hung countless tvs and driven 1000s of screws and lag bolts. I also used the impact on the job when I was working roadside assistance. It's old brushless tech, but it's a solid tool.

  • @garylambert5212
    @garylambert5212 Před 4 lety

    A few years ago I had a 20 volt Dewalt impact driver. It had a lot of power but no control. It was almost impossible to drive screws or finish seating screws in drywall accurately. Then I discovered the Rigid impact driver. I selected the hydraulic version, even though it cost more, because it had a smoother action. But one of the best features is a three speed power adjustment conveniently located on the top. I can now easily control the amount of torque to the job I’m doing. Another unexpected bonus is the lowest torque setting will back out screws with stripped out heads and almost never slip off. Yet it still has enough torque in high that I routinely snap the shanks off nut drivers. Other brands have added a torque adjustment and I’m sure they work fine, but I will stay with what I’ve got.

  • @SmallWorkshopGuy
    @SmallWorkshopGuy Před 4 lety +1

    Very good summary and observations, as always, James. Good job.

  • @timbo389
    @timbo389 Před 3 lety +7

    When reassembling an old wood item (ie, an old piece of furniture), it’s best to just not use even a cordless drill, and certainly not an impact driver. Manual labor will prevent a real world of hurt with a priceless heirloom or antique.

    • @bollemuslol
      @bollemuslol Před 2 lety

      ok boomer

    • @timbo389
      @timbo389 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bollemuslol too young to be a boomer.

    • @theronwolf3296
      @theronwolf3296 Před rokem

      There's also those small 'cordless screwdrivers' with much less torque and lower speed than a drill and much easier to control. But they will be much easier on your wrist if you're doing a lot of screws.

    • @timbo389
      @timbo389 Před rokem

      @@theronwolf3296 I have a Dewalt gyroscopic screwdriver and it is definitely worth it’s weight in gold. And it is good for more than fasteners.

  • @sixshooter3313
    @sixshooter3313 Před rokem

    You covered just what I needed to know. Thank You.

  • @willxin4517
    @willxin4517 Před 4 lety

    Thanks I just got my first battery powered drill for Xmas. Was wondering why all those functions. Keep at it!

  • @dubya13207
    @dubya13207 Před 4 lety

    I realized how powerful an impact can be when I was using one of those DeWalt magnet quick-change but holders with the sliding sleeve for keeping a screw straight. The sleeve obscured my work, and I let it go to far...straight through the 1x2 I was attaching to a shelf. I managed to stop with a little bit left, but it’s a darn good thing that’s not the only screw on that shelf!

  • @dogwoodtales
    @dogwoodtales Před 4 lety +38

    All I have to say is that, even when using the clutch, I’ve broken a lot more screws with a drill than with an impact driver and that my attention is what keeps me from driving a screw too deep while using either tool.

  • @WindRidgeWoodCrafts
    @WindRidgeWoodCrafts Před 4 lety

    Thanks, James. I'm one of those neanderthals with only a variable speed drill with clutch. The one thing I had not considered with impact drivers was the "reset" that occurs between impacts. My drill is decent at 20V, but I considered getting the combo kit when I bought it. I'm getting into bigger projects that could make use of the impact feature, so I'm sure I'll grab a combo kit in the near future.

  • @Dilshad-gu7je
    @Dilshad-gu7je Před rokem

    Thanks for the thoughtful info. Now I understand the difference between impact drivers, drills and hammer drills - and a couple of helpful got-cha's as well!

  • @chrisbaier6252
    @chrisbaier6252 Před 4 lety

    Thanks! I have an impact driver that came with my regular cordless drill. Never knew what to do with it. (I already had an old cordless drill so I could use that for drilling and the new one for driving screws). I sure could have used it when putting up cabinets in my kitchen. 3" screws (or were they 4-inch?) into 50-year old dried-out 2x4s.

  • @NedbLegocity
    @NedbLegocity Před 4 lety

    Well said. Especially the pocket hole example!

  • @moosefreaked
    @moosefreaked Před 11 měsíci

    by far best breakdown of differences and WHEN TO USE each tool and WHY or WHY NOT

  • @micknatco8037
    @micknatco8037 Před 4 lety +1

    I would generally agree if you’re addressing the average user. And I would qualify that the particular drill in question will make a difference as well. I use an M18 Fuel Surge Milwaukee impact driver and what I like most about this tool is that the speed is very easy to modulate and it has four different impact settings so if you know the material you’re working with this drill can be tuned to the job at hand. At its lowest setting it would be difficult to overdrive.
    Since I am the extended family “handy-man” I’m often asked to assist because I have the tools and it seems that those with minimal skill using newer more advanced tools treat the trigger like an on-off switch a habit I’ve found very hard to break them of.
    And one final comment. The lights on my Milwaukee tools don’t shut off immediately after releasing the trigger which makes them much more pleasant to use.

  • @Jademyheart
    @Jademyheart Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic informative video 💯👌
    I thought there was something wrong with my new DeWalt buddy!
    As the screw drove in ,it was clicking 🤔
    I thought it was faulty!
    Until I found you guys 🙂
    Thanks again buddy 👍
    Great stuff 😊🐱

  • @OliWarner
    @OliWarner Před 4 lety +1

    DeWalt has some impact drivers (eg DCF887) with a speed selector. On mine, settings #2 and #3 are as you describe but #1 will slow down into resistance and stop. It's perfect for cabinet assembly. Perfect screwdriver.
    The Makita DTD154Z looks like it has the same and I'm sure other brands have similar.

  • @Jped277
    @Jped277 Před 4 lety +1

    I couldn't have put it better myself. Great job.

  • @clobbyhardy
    @clobbyhardy Před 4 lety

    Good points. I actually keep an older 12v ryobi drill around specifically for more sensitive drilling operations. It's lower speed, low power, and super easy to fine tune the clutch. My M18 drill is mainly used for drilling and boring, with the impact driver used for heavier duty, and less sensitive work around the shop. I end up using the Ryobi the most out of all of them just because of the control I get out of it!

  • @guillermog130
    @guillermog130 Před 4 lety

    I have the new Makita XDT16 with the 4 adjustable speed modes and 4 assist settings. Drives screws in like a dream, I've fully changed from drills to the impact driver for nearly everything but light rack work in pre-threaded holes. I keep my little 12v Bosch for that.
    Haven't used my big XPH07 once for screws since I got the XDT16 though.

  • @bullpup33
    @bullpup33 Před 4 lety

    I use the Black Makita, subcompact, for wood working. They work great!

  • @lincolndickerson1293
    @lincolndickerson1293 Před 2 lety

    I was creating a cleat wall tool holder out of oak over the weekend and snapped the screw heads off just as you discribed. On this project it was okay and I just left them. I was curious where I went wrong. On the next one I will use the drill with the clutch set properly. Thanks!

  • @vinayaktiwari4383
    @vinayaktiwari4383 Před rokem

    What an amazing video and clarity of Info > I am a beginner to DIY and tool and I've been struggling to find differences between the tools. This video made my day and exactly know what I am supposed to buy for my DIY project.

  • @bradbennati2600
    @bradbennati2600 Před 4 lety +11

    Some modern impact drivers have adjustable settings so you don’t over torque, strip, or overdrive screws. My Milwaukee m18 fuel impact drivers have four different torque/speed settings. You just have to remember to set it to the best torque setting before driving screws on a project where you are concerned about them being overdriven or coming out the other side. It took some getting used to, and a bit of practice but, I haven’t had any problems with overdriving screws since I started using their impact drivers and setting it to the proper torque setting for the job.

    • @WalterMelons
      @WalterMelons Před 4 lety +1

      Brad Bennati I have an m18 surge impact and I love it. Don’t have any overdriving problems. I love the different settings.

  • @cb2000a
    @cb2000a Před 4 lety

    I use my brushless 12volt Bosch drill driver most. Also have a Bosch 12volt impact driver and an 18 volt Milwaukee Surge for the heavy jobs. The precision of the Bosch variable speed is amazing.

  • @TheAussiePirate
    @TheAussiePirate Před 4 lety

    I get so much from your tool tips! Thanks!