As a Valencia fan the first red flag for me was the Neville appointment. But the final nail in the coffin was letting our best midfielder and captain Parejo leave to our cross city competitors for FREE. He had no desire to leave either. He loved the club
In your opinion how good is Yunus Musah? Lately the talk in American circles is that Musah is too good for the 2nd division if that happens but also he's been linked with Liverpool and some people think he's nowhere near good enough to even make their bench.
Valencia before Lim had financial troubles due to the global recession and forced to sell Mata, Villa and Silva. Since Lim took over it has gotten so bad that the new stadium when completed it will be slightly bigger than the old stadium instead of having 75k seats and they sold their key players on a loss and signed dross. As bad the Glazers are, Peter Lim takes the cake for the worst owner in football.
Who were the previous owners and who got them into this awful short term debt? Of course that is the biggest problem. You can’t hope to finish a stadium or buy new players if you are in danger of defaulting every couple of months or year. Should be criminal for any owner to get such loans in the first place. Also I guess Lim doesn’t have enough money to refinance the club, literally has to sell players every year just to keep the creditors away. Why did he even bother? Just makes thing worse, or kicks the can down the road.
I'm a Barcelona fan and it's just unbelievable for me to accept that clubs like Valencia and Sevilla are fighting to stay away from the Relegation Zone.
Believe it my guy. That’s how football is from time to time you see things like this. For example the 99-2000 la liga saw Atletico Madrid. Sevilla and Betis all get relegated
@@tahas8261 That season also saw unexpected results of Deportivo La Coruna. They won La Liga with the lowest tally points ever. Real Madrid were also struggling heavily and finished 5th, but they still qualified for the Champions League after defeating Valencia in the final. Later on, Deportivo suffered a debacle with four relegations (2011, 2013, 2018, 2020) and they are still locked in Primera Division RFEF. Malaga, after being banned by UEFA, were also struggling and eventually went down to La Liga 2 in 2018, 5 years after the Qatari-owned club with world class players had almost qualified for the Champions League semifinal.
@@Sammie551 When Leicester City won the Premier League, all Big 6 teams didn't perform well. Manchester City had missed the Champions League, but still won the League Cup. The city rivals, although only played in Europa League (and then won it), also had the FA Cup. Also, Leicester's big rivals for title contenders was Tottenham Hotspurs, but after the historic game vs Chelsea, Arsenal somehow finished second instead of Tottenham in the final days. Liverpool and Chelsea didn't even play in Europe; the former wasted a big opportunity to play in Champions League the next season after losing the Europa League Final to Sevilla with Jurgen Klopp, while the latter enjoyed the worst one, having sacked Jose Mourinho in the first half of season, when the club are in relegation battle. Also, La Liga in 2002-03 was the strangest one because Real Madrid was the only giants that qualified for the Champions League, because they were the champions of Spain. You guess who is the three clubs joining Real Madrid on Top 4 finish: Real Sociedad, Deportivo La Coruna, and Celta Vigo.
Yeah they proved their 0 football iq right there. The funniest thing is seeing how all management comes from business world you'd think they'd be killing it in the player market. Really they are just a bunch of crooks slowly selling the club bit by bit. It's all intentional in my opinion not a matter of mismanagement
wish fans could de facto sack their owner (of course, with much more involvement from the board director etc, but wish the fans had at least power to do so).
not try to racist but i don't think football even popular in singapore lmao, yes they're "good" businessman but when we talk about football they should understand the sport first
Feel bad for fans and most importantly Jose gaya. Man has easily been one of the best wingbacks in the world but never ever gets the credit once. And the thing is Valencia is still a attractive investment. Someone from Saudi Arabia with shitloads of money can easily save em with proper recruitment team
@@niyiogunro First off, you dont understand he is staying in Valencia because he loves the club. Secondly, Valencia still won the cup a couple of years ago. What did Arsenal win? How many years now without a piece of silverware? Trash.
Feel sorry for die hard Valencia fans as a Singaporean I still don't understand why he need to own a european club if he not willing to invest or engage with Spainish fanbase
Early 2000's, what a side they had with Aimar and Mendieta. One of my favourite Spanish teams ever along with Deportivo La Coruna and Real Madrid from the same era.
I was lucky enough to visit Valencia during Fallas back in 2003, and I was (and still am) a Valencia fan. But it's been mostly downhill after 2003-2004.
As a Singaporean football fan, i'm dissapointed in the way in which he is running the club. It would be to everyone's best interest if he sells it and come home. Hopefully buy a local club here in the Singapore Premier League.
Peter lim!!! Thoughts on why he doesn’t want to sell even though he cant be bothered to go to spain? I think he could easily be one of the worst owners in football history
Love how United fans always talk about the Glazers when bad owners are mentioned. Yes they aren’t good but the club has consistently been in Europe under their ownership. Other big clubs have ceased to exist in the same amount of time.
As a liverpool fan I'm so glad that FSG bought us instead of Peter Lim at the time though I feel for Valencia as we had horrible owners in hicks and gillett
"Signings are not something to worry about, being told you have weeks to live is something to wory about". Orale Holmes. We have weeks to live before we might play in Segunda División.
In LaLiga this season I'm more hyped about the bottom half of the table than the top half. As a Real fan I know they are not winning the league this season which kinda pisses me off. I mean imagine struggling with teams like Mallorca and Almeria. So I'll get to enjoy the relegation battle even more.
Most of the financial problems will be sorted out if they could sell the ground where we play at a reasonably price while finishing the new stadium, but the stupid council and the club they seem not to agree in number of seats and other issues
Valencia need relegation to force Lim out, but the Club would likely not survive it. This will be the culmination of many years of bad decisions on and off the pitch. The fans need to stop turning up and let the Club collapse, and then found a new Club.
That's not how it works, you support your club to the end, I'm a supporter of royal antwerp and a few years ago we were struggling in the 2nd division on the verse of bankruptcy and the oldest team in Belgium dying, but we never gave up on it, during rains and storms we still attended the match, had funraises, had gatherings finally after years of struggle, we finally been able to return to the top league and even won the belgian cup as we have had a solid top 4 finish since then, you never give up on your club no matter how bad it looks and how bad it's ownership is
It's hard to understand the situation. He's got a chance to make a tremendous amount of money by letting football professionals do their thing, but instead he decides to play sporting manager and flip the bird to the city of Valencia. If the club gets relegated, you will lose everything, Lim. What's special about LaLiga is the strength of the middle and lower class clubs relative to their budgets. The situation for Valencia is beyond critical.
2000 UEFA Champions League final 2001 UEFA Champions League final 2002 UEFA Cup Quarter final 2002 Spanish champion 2003 UEFA Champions League Quarter-final 2004 UEFA Cup champion 2004 Spanish champion Their elimination in the 2005 UEFA Cup round of 32 was the beginning of the collapse.
Dont just blame the owner conveniently.. no one on earth want to have a fail business after invested almost 200mil hard earn money to a biz.. it's more than just the owner.
Unfortunately, that "new" stadium will never be completed at this point and would already have to be teared down first most likely before any new building could actually be a real option.. :/
haven't you made this video like 5 times already? We all know Valencia's been FUCKED ever since Lim took over. Not that they were doing any better 2 years before he took over
I am a Singaporean this guy know nothing about Football. Sorry to say hope the team go down div 2 so he can sell away the club. Btw I am so happy that thos guy never buy liverpool
not try to racist but i don't think football even popular in singapore lmao, yes they're "good" businessman but when we talk about football they should understand the sport first
As a Valencia fan the first red flag for me was the Neville appointment. But the final nail in the coffin was letting our best midfielder and captain Parejo leave to our cross city competitors for FREE. He had no desire to leave either. He loved the club
What they did to try to erase the history of Parejo at the Club was painful to watch, I'm sorry for your dear Valencia, mate 😢
In your opinion how good is Yunus Musah? Lately the talk in American circles is that Musah is too good for the 2nd division if that happens but also he's been linked with Liverpool and some people think he's nowhere near good enough to even make their bench.
Valencia before Lim had financial troubles due to the global recession and forced to sell Mata, Villa and Silva. Since Lim took over it has gotten so bad that the new stadium when completed it will be slightly bigger than the old stadium instead of having 75k seats and they sold their key players on a loss and signed dross. As bad the Glazers are, Peter Lim takes the cake for the worst owner in football.
The Glazers are nowhere near as bad
Lim makes the Glazers look competent
Glazers at least still splash the cash every season and made sure that the club still made profit (mostly), but Lim? nah, nada, never. XD
@@siphemanana2551 Funny thing, Peter Lim was close to taking over Liverpool before FSG finalized their deal. Scary thought for Liverpool fans.
Who were the previous owners and who got them into this awful short term debt? Of course that is the biggest problem. You can’t hope to finish a stadium or buy new players if you are in danger of defaulting every couple of months or year. Should be criminal for any owner to get such loans in the first place. Also I guess Lim doesn’t have enough money to refinance the club, literally has to sell players every year just to keep the creditors away. Why did he even bother? Just makes thing worse, or kicks the can down the road.
I'm a Barcelona fan and it's just unbelievable for me to accept that clubs like Valencia and Sevilla are fighting to stay away from the Relegation Zone.
Believe it my guy. That’s how football is from time to time you see things like this. For example the 99-2000 la liga saw Atletico Madrid. Sevilla and Betis all get relegated
@@tahas8261 I know. But this time is different. Back then they were able to make a come back. This time, Tebas has crippled them.
@@tahas8261 That season also saw unexpected results of Deportivo La Coruna. They won La Liga with the lowest tally points ever. Real Madrid were also struggling heavily and finished 5th, but they still qualified for the Champions League after defeating Valencia in the final.
Later on, Deportivo suffered a debacle with four relegations (2011, 2013, 2018, 2020) and they are still locked in Primera Division RFEF.
Malaga, after being banned by UEFA, were also struggling and eventually went down to La Liga 2 in 2018, 5 years after the Qatari-owned club with world class players had almost qualified for the Champions League semifinal.
Even Everton for the premier league
@@Sammie551 When Leicester City won the Premier League, all Big 6 teams didn't perform well. Manchester City had missed the Champions League, but still won the League Cup. The city rivals, although only played in Europa League (and then won it), also had the FA Cup. Also, Leicester's big rivals for title contenders was Tottenham Hotspurs, but after the historic game vs Chelsea, Arsenal somehow finished second instead of Tottenham in the final days. Liverpool and Chelsea didn't even play in Europe; the former wasted a big opportunity to play in Champions League the next season after losing the Europa League Final to Sevilla with Jurgen Klopp, while the latter enjoyed the worst one, having sacked Jose Mourinho in the first half of season, when the club are in relegation battle.
Also, La Liga in 2002-03 was the strangest one because Real Madrid was the only giants that qualified for the Champions League, because they were the champions of Spain. You guess who is the three clubs joining Real Madrid on Top 4 finish: Real Sociedad, Deportivo La Coruna, and Celta Vigo.
As a Valencia fan (born in Valencia) I appreciate this vid 🦇
It's so sad to see the state of Valencia
sacking Marcelino was a big big big mistake
Yeah they proved their 0 football iq right there. The funniest thing is seeing how all management comes from business world you'd think they'd be killing it in the player market. Really they are just a bunch of crooks slowly selling the club bit by bit. It's all intentional in my opinion not a matter of mismanagement
Not even a Valencia fan but I feel so sorry for their fans! Who do these owners think they are?? Stop ruining football!
wish fans could de facto sack their owner (of course, with much more involvement from the board director etc, but wish the fans had at least power to do so).
not try to racist but i don't think football even popular in singapore lmao, yes they're "good" businessman but when we talk about football they should understand the sport first
@@sadjester800 look at the state of Singapore national football and you'll see the consistency
they made racism against vini jr
All started with the sacking of Marcelino in 2019
Remember when his daughter taunted the fans in social media saying they own the club & can do what they want?
@@apexmobiledontdie 😂😂😂
@Apex Mobile Don’t die It was such a stupid statement. It just prove that their family doesnt care about this historical club
@@apexmobiledontdie bruh she dug her own grave 💀
@@apexmobiledontdie Peter lim 's daughter
Feel bad for fans and most importantly Jose gaya. Man has easily been one of the best wingbacks in the world but never ever gets the credit once. And the thing is Valencia is still a attractive investment. Someone from Saudi Arabia with shitloads of money can easily save em with proper recruitment team
My arsenal are coming for him soon he’s too good to be in a trash club
@@niyiogunro First off, you dont understand he is staying in Valencia because he loves the club. Secondly, Valencia still won the cup a couple of years ago. What did Arsenal win? How many years now without a piece of silverware? Trash.
Feel sorry for die hard Valencia fans as a Singaporean I still don't understand why he need to own a european club if he not willing to invest or engage with Spainish fanbase
The Mestalla issue has been destroying the club for almost 20 years... Remember Valencia was playing CL final back then.
Just won La liga with them after 6 seasons on Fm23. Got 101 points.
I'm in my first season with them currently top 4 lol the team isn't half bad
@@JoltzDaGhost yep on paper. Struggling in real life. Cavani was v good for me in those early years. Who has been your best player so far?
@edwardwaddell7718 I'm in January cavani my best player which is worrying but then it's samu castillejo, Hugo and diakhaby
@@JoltzDaGhost nice. Hope you enjoy the save as much as I have :)
Love fm
I would love an explained video on Hoffenheim! Going from a fun attacking side under Nagelsmann to bottom of the Bundesliga right now.
Early 2000's, what a side they had with Aimar and Mendieta. One of my favourite Spanish teams ever along with Deportivo La Coruna and Real Madrid from the same era.
I was lucky enough to visit Valencia during Fallas back in 2003, and I was (and still am) a Valencia fan. But it's been mostly downhill after 2003-2004.
Sad to see Valencia in 2nd divisions but more to Sevilla, a team with huge successes
As a Singaporean football fan, i'm dissapointed in the way in which he is running the club. It would be to everyone's best interest if he sells it and come home. Hopefully buy a local club here in the Singapore Premier League.
the owner should just sell up and put his money in salford city
Stories like these are why I love 50+1
Silva villa mata what the hell happened
Sad times, hopefully a better future for my club
you stopped uploading videos ? why ?
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 got a promotion which required me to work more hours. Maybe I’ll start again someday
@@valenciafantv hope you do also congratulations!
Peter lim!!! Thoughts on why he doesn’t want to sell even though he cant be bothered to go to spain?
I think he could easily be one of the worst owners in football history
Agreed.
Glazers have entered the chat...
@@omzdinho5737 glazers are bad, yes, but there are many who are worse
See Mike Ashley
Love how United fans always talk about the Glazers when bad owners are mentioned. Yes they aren’t good but the club has consistently been in Europe under their ownership. Other big clubs have ceased to exist in the same amount of time.
@@romeonantenaina2067 glazers spent huge amounts on players.
reminds me of Everton
Same situation similar history
@@HARBSS even if people make fun of Everton, they’re both huge clubs and it’s sad to see
Tebas has been destroying la liga for a while now, its not only valencia struggling, all la liga clubs are struggling financially
As bad as Tebas is, I think Valencia’s situation has a lot more to do with Lim
All ima say is...
Bro thinks he's Abramovic
Who thought hiring Gatusso as manager was a good idea, he never showed any good sign since his first job...
Valencia never been the same since Gary Neville left!
True- his reign bought nothing but endless victories and major trophies.
The footballing world breathed a sigh of relief after he left.
@@lfc632 You mean sincec he joined? Lmao.
To see clubs like Sevilla and Valencia struggle is deeply detrimental to the league.
Benfica and sporting had bigger troubles and overcome ..even juve finds a way ...hope los chè overcome..a giant ..4sure
That's was enjoyable video
As a liverpool fan I'm so glad that FSG bought us instead of Peter Lim at the time though I feel for Valencia as we had horrible owners in hicks and gillett
Valencia In fifa 08 was an absolute cheat code.. so sad to see how bad this club has become
Wishing best for valencia of Uncle Peter
"Signings are not something to worry about, being told you have weeks to live is something to wory about".
Orale Holmes. We have weeks to live before we might play in Segunda División.
As a Singaporean, I'm ashamed of Peter Lim.
I am equally ashamed of our Singapore Premier League
Why do you choose Puma and Addidas but not Nike? Uncle Peter
In LaLiga this season I'm more hyped about the bottom half of the table than the top half. As a Real fan I know they are not winning the league this season which kinda pisses me off. I mean imagine struggling with teams like Mallorca and Almeria. So I'll get to enjoy the relegation battle even more.
Tbf to the entire situation the 2008 financial crisis really started to derail the club.
Very interesting
Lim using Valencia as a money laundering facility, and then the path will be the same as deportivo coruña. Sad.
I hope they stay up. Fantastic club.
no they need to go down, in order to shake things
Welcome to 2nd division valencia 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
They should have remained as a fan owner club like Real and Barca where they can choose their club president.
Most of the financial problems will be sorted out if they could sell the ground where we play at a reasonably price while finishing the new stadium, but the stupid council and the club they seem not to agree in number of seats and other issues
Valencia need relegation to force Lim out, but the Club would likely not survive it. This will be the culmination of many years of bad decisions on and off the pitch. The fans need to stop turning up and let the Club collapse, and then found a new Club.
Sounds super easy on as youtube comment.
That's not how it works, you support your club to the end, I'm a supporter of royal antwerp and a few years ago we were struggling in the 2nd division on the verse of bankruptcy and the oldest team in Belgium dying, but we never gave up on it, during rains and storms we still attended the match, had funraises, had gatherings finally after years of struggle, we finally been able to return to the top league and even won the belgian cup as we have had a solid top 4 finish since then, you never give up on your club no matter how bad it looks and how bad it's ownership is
It's hard to understand the situation. He's got a chance to make a tremendous amount of money by letting football professionals do their thing, but instead he decides to play sporting manager and flip the bird to the city of Valencia.
If the club gets relegated, you will lose everything, Lim. What's special about LaLiga is the strength of the middle and lower class clubs relative to their budgets. The situation for Valencia is beyond critical.
2000 UEFA Champions League final
2001 UEFA Champions League final
2002 UEFA Cup Quarter final
2002 Spanish champion
2003 UEFA Champions League Quarter-final
2004 UEFA Cup champion
2004 Spanish champion
Their elimination in the 2005 UEFA Cup round of 32 was the beginning of the collapse.
Valencia let go its greatest youth player for free. That tells all. Lee Kang in > Valencia. FACTs.
And i thought the Glazers were bad
Dont just blame the owner conveniently.. no one on earth want to have a fail business after invested almost 200mil hard earn money to a biz.. it's more than just the owner.
As a sporean , I can only say peter lim Mai Xia Suay. Better leave the club to better owners
A better coach and sporting director can save the day
Valencia was my first love. Mendieta, Aimar, Ayala, Canizares 🥹
Rehire Gary Neville, they’ll be fine 😀
then they wont be found in the segunda division as well...
Definition on how an owner can ruin a club
Imagine if Valencia and Sevilla get relegated this season 😍
Unfortunately, that "new" stadium will never be completed at this point and would already have to be teared down first most likely before any new building could actually be a real option.. :/
Marcelo Bielsa
Lim V E T E Y A
Valencia FC is great club
Only Mamardashvili is a last hope
It be these young fans ain't it
what?
haven't you made this video like 5 times already? We all know Valencia's been FUCKED ever since Lim took over. Not that they were doing any better 2 years before he took over
Just copied hitc ent u rly
I am a Singaporean this guy know nothing about Football.
Sorry to say hope the team go down div 2 so he can sell away the club.
Btw I am so happy that thos guy never buy liverpool
I wouldn’t mind a Arab owner for this club. Sell every decent player for something.
not try to racist but i don't think football even popular in singapore lmao, yes they're "good" businessman but when we talk about football they should understand the sport first
it is very popular there
يجب بيع فالنسيا لمالك اخر بيتر ليم فاشل فاشل ولا يعرف عن كرة القدم شي واذا استمر فاتوقع فالنسيا سيهبط للدرجه الثانيه
Come on arabs buy valencia now.
Would love to see Lim Valencia get relegated!
Greed as usual
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Sacking Neville was a huge huge mistake he had a vision for the club like Arteta but Lim pushed him out.
Valencia never been the same since Gary Neville left!
😂