2025 NEW TREK MADONE!! *GEN 8* (What Has Changed?)
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Did TREK do enough?? Yes it is there "DO IT ALL BIKE" but it seems like this bike was forced with nothing jumping out and only making it look like this was done to remove skus?? Also the weight of the bike could be much lighter once new wheels are equipped, the wheels here are from 2021 and 1600 grams, you get some nice 1300 gram wheels this changes the bike weight by alot. Let me know what you think.... if you read this right now and breathing like this video
I’m a Trek Guy. With that being stated. Trek states it’s -320Grams lighter and SRAM Group set is lighter -29 grams.
It’s the same wheels as last year.
?? How Is the bike No lighter than previous Gen 7. “Based on Trek site” ????
The current RSL 51 wheels are listed at 1410g.
Hey Grant just a heads up, those wheels actually aren't heavy. They are only about 30-40 grams heavier than the RSL 37s, which come in at 1325 grams. So still an incredibly lightweight rim.
At this price point you might as well buy a Specialized SL8. If money was no option then use the Gen 7 for crits and lightning fast group rides. And buy a SL8 for those big days in the mountains. Now that would be the ultimate quiver. Unfortunately not enough folks are buying bikes as the marketplace is overly saturated from the pandemic.
@@brandonsimpson3600
So on the website if u compare both bikes, the gen 8 is lighter. And if you ready carefully, they add * on “-320 gram lighter than the gen 7”. The * says “When comparing framesets”. And the 2021 RSL wheels in author comments, I believe it’s around 1400g instead of 1600g.
A moment of silence please for all the Trek SKUs that were sacrificed to create this 😔
Extreme sadness. I think I'm gonna go get an old Emonda
SKU??
Hahahah
It's going to get worse....In an internal memo Burke sent to executives recently, he said details of the cuts would be announced Friday. He said in addition to a 10% cut in spending, Trek would substantially reduce its stock keeping units (SKUs), saying Trek’s model year 2026 SKUs will be 40% lower than model year 2024.
Fear not, the $13,500 SKU survived the cuts!
My take: if you're paying for this bike, Trek didn't make it for *you*.
5:32 No they are compatible with standard bottles. Thats why theres the extra little tab in the cages. Try it out, they hold regular bottles pretty well.
Very nice good info
The gen 7 frame was a piece of art. Might snag one used, now that this is out.
Yea the gen 7 looked like a race car. Had such nice lines and was one of my faveorite looking aero bikes
Those Trek 5500's were fast as hell when Lance Armstrong was pedaling them.
Gen 7 look more aggressive, Q_Q
The new bike looks good. But yeah, the last one looked like it was built by a formula 1 team.
Heads up. The first batches of bikes had too much thread locker on the water bottle bolts. Check those bolts before purchasing your bike! The heads may strip causing a huge headache.
Holy crap. Good info
So happy I got my Gen 7 while it was available.
Same
Beware of those Pirelli P zero tires. Recently crashed with a front sidewall blowout at 90 psi.at 30 mph. I’m going back to Continental GP. after my wounds heal and fractured ribs mend. Don’t risk high pressure on the Italian tires.
yea pirelli have been known to come off the wheel easier then others
Video of the tire
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Trek will be moving away from Pirelli when their contract ends now that they have their new Aeolus RSL wheels.
Could happen to any tire. Happened to my Michelins at 40mph. Inserts from now on.
No speed sniffer? Maybe in gen 9 😂. Gen 7 will become a collector’s bike
I thought they should have took the gen7 front of the madone and made it gen 8 rear
Honestly, unless your ride actually includes some super steep grades, stick with the Gen 7, the Venge, Ostro VAM, pure aero + inertia is better on shallow climbs IMO
V true
Yea I like
That seatpost set at the very end of the top tube with no support looks like a catostrophic failure waiting to happen. I'm sure it's fine but the optics scare me.
How the heck is this bike as fast as the previous Madone? Is aero just magic now??
bottle cages obviously
Even if it's slower, how many people can actually test it in an unbiased and rigorous manner?
It's all marketing. Aero has run its course, now they need to find another desirable object.
Marketing, every bike is lighter stiffer and more aero. Consumers have no brains
It's all in the bottles. Regular round bottles are a huge source of drag, so I can definitely see adding aero bottles to a decidedly less aero frame making the overall bike as aero as the Madone gen 7.
The problem is, that comparison really isn't on a level playing field anymore. You could just as easily add those same bottles to the Madone gen 7 (or the Tarmac SL8, or the Venge, etc, etc) and see a similar boost in aero, which would once again put the Madone gen 8 back at the bottom of the pack in aero.
It's all a spin on the data. I'm sure Trek has data collected from putting those same aero bottles on the Madone gen 7, and I'm also sure they're determined never to let it see the light of day.
@@leslie7922 it's almost as if companies try to make better bikes
I'm incredibly happy with my Gen 7 Madone and see no reason to upgrade to the Gen 8. The irony is not lost as the Gen 7 Madone is equally as fast as the brand new Gen 8 Madone! However I'm still surprised they killed off the Emonda. What's new is the 900 OCLV carbon lay up. If Trek re-launched the Gen 3 Emonda in 900 OCLV with dropped seat stays, then WOW what a bike that would be! In sum, eliminating the Emonda and launching a new Gen 8 Madone (a gussied up Emonda) is really a cost cutting measure wrapped up in marketing jargon and hyperbole.
I do like Lidl but not sure if I like it enough to have my bike in their colours 🤣
Unless it comes with a lifetime in store discount?
Yeah. Lidl sponsoring world tour team is almost as dumb as quickstep
There is no way this one is as fast as previous gen
Yea makes no sense to me. The only thing I think of is the tested it with bottles there and that acted like fearings to close the frame gap to make it more aero
Pinarello is killing it imho with the new dogma, it's very much a climbing bike that has 90% aero shapes. these brands are just grasping at straws to stay relevant in a market that has self-corrected for the most part.
Yea they made great aero changes while keeping the bike weight competitive
There is nothing wrong with the one bike to rule them all model. Some companies who've had dedicated bike classes are having to play catch up. TREK is just taking a little longer to produce a bike in this category. Factor has the Ostro VAM, Cervelo has the Soloist, Cannondale has the Super Six Evo, etc. Just about every bike brand has a lightweight aero bike, which honestly doesn't matter anyway considering the pros all ride the heavier aero bikes because they are faster.
@@aloha_from_bradley i agree with the idea that one good bike is all you need, but the tarmac, this new madonne and the rest of the new "do it all" bikes are not very do it all. They all would be slower in the flats than their older counterparts. They are climbing bikes with extra marketing attached.
@@BMD8 Wind tunnel optimization would say otherwise. We are splitting hairs here. All of the bike I've listed would be equally as good with a trained rider in the saddle. I understand where you are coming from, but the lightweight aero bike is the best option for almost any rider. If you are on flats only, opt for a Tri bike.
@@aloha_from_bradley I wouldn't put too much stock on self reported aero claims, especially from stationary wind tunnel data. Deeper chords and narrower tubes are always faster in real world. I do agree these are mostly minor differences, but for the money they want, I'd expect more benefits.
Uh 6k for a frameset? Trek saw the SL8 Frame price and said, hold my ICON paint can.
I want to like it but I cant get over the fat tubes meeting the skinny tubes in the backend.
the front needs to be more aggresive deeper carbon headtube and also deeper carbon forks
I absolutely love my gen7 (I'm a heavier rider and no, the suspended seatpost has not cracked on me) and have no regrets about buying it even with this one coming out. However, that new design looks like a very cool bike indeed.
I was just thinking as a fellow heavier rider is there a weight limit on this as that integrated seat post always looks fragile to me👍
@@bwarey52 I guess it depends on your definition of "heavy". I'm 6'2", 190lbs and haven'T encounterd a problem in 4000km so far this summer.
I‘m so happy I bought a Gen 6 Madone. Don‘t like the new Trek models sadly. Would definitely buy a Canyon Aeroad if I had to choose from the current market.
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Also this is one of my favorite bikes and I’ve been waiting for the release. I definitely prefer the Project One custom colors, but I can’t wait to get it so that I can compare it to the Gen 7. Great video
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Great to see manufacturers using T47 bb's.
same here
$20,000 Canadian. Holy FK!!! 😭
GEN 6 is the best looking. 🤷🏾
Without isospeed gimmick, it would have been the timeless aero bike just like the 1st gen Venge
I think the gen 7
its growing on me but i fear i am too fat for that seat post design. Also note: if you go with a higher seat post and smaller frame, the leverage forces are just that much more
Same
Will they continue to offer the Madone Gen 7 alongside the new bike?
No this one replaced both Emonda and Madone for good only what left in stock till will sold out
yea I think they are moving forward with just gen 8 madone until they run out of old models
Dave Arthur's review had it weighing in at 7.35 KGs without pedals & bidons. I gather it's 700grms heavier than Emonda and not much of an advance on Gen 7 Madone.
Yea it didn’t feel that light for a top tier bike
Curious what a lightweight build on this would look like, and I mean all the way with rotors, tires, cockpit and ceramic stuff
Yea and different wheels I would be curious to see it too. I’m sure it has great potential
The lightest I have seen so far is 14pounds build with Obermayer wheelset.😀
I like the how bottle cages and bottles integrate with the frame.
My Emonda project one with ultegra di2 and pedals and cages weights 7.4 in size 58.
Trek engineering team been doing a lot research how many fingers fit in that hole...😂
"WRITE THAT DOWN!!"
The rear bottle cage already scratched?
I dont think so
To me the smallest and most insignificant changes are between the SL7 Gen 7&8. Pretty much the entire gen 8 bike is exactly the same and weighs only .28grams lighter. I prefer the more aggressive look of the gen 7. I would expect an immediate price drop of the gen 7 though given that both are currently the exact same price. Seat stays is a little thicker on Gen 7 but gen 8 does have a slightly more compliant stay (argumentative how much better it is). Aesthetically, the gen 8 color schemes are beautiful and imo, Trek has the best paint jobs in the industry.
Size Medium!!! So, I see Trek is also consolidating frame sizing as well. 🤨🤨🤨
Dare I say, but $13,5000 for a flagship Trek in the United States for the only big box real competition to Specialized is not bad.
I like the water bottles. I think all manufacturers are going to start doing that. Orbea has a version for theirs. It's got to make some difference. You can only make the frame so wide to help get air around those fat, round bottles. Overall looks better than last gen...although still not used to the ISO hole.
I’d be curious how these new bottles and cages look on the Gen7 Madone
Almost know room to put them on a small gen 7
@@GCPerformance18 I’m assuming they would fit my 58 gen 7 but unsure about how well due to the bigger bottom bracket section.
I like this change. New Madone does not have a pretentious image and it feels more honest, just a bike.
"... changed the sizing to help out consumers." Suuure. THE biggest issue in S/M/L bike sizing is getting the right fit, as everyone knows. Also, if you're buying a ~$15K (or whatever) top end Madone, you know the size you want in cm, not some arbitrary categorization that was done to save Trek money regardless of what they claim. Might as well say it was done for our "safety" like most BS changes that manufacturers impose on us these days. I would never buy a Trek in the first place, but this soft of thing makes me even less well-disposed towards them.
Nice bike. 320 grams lighter? No earth shattering. The bike looks good though. What is more important is how does it feel? Too stiff? Like a wet noodle? Just right?
320 grams is huge
@@GCPerformance18 Yes, in a reduction in the weight of the bike. However, in the big scheme it's better to look at the overall weight and see if losing weight on the rider is a better effort.
I will give Trek kudos for trimming the Madone's weight though. I owned a series of them in the 2010s and they were great bikes and Trek has a fantastic warranty program.
I’m interested to see how the aero will test beyond trek’s own testing. As a person who works at a shop and has known about this bike for a while now and its weight I feel like, especially compared to the Tarmac, it should be lighter. Maybe aerodynamics are better, we’ll just have to wait
Yea I have a feeling those numbers they have where with the water bottles in the wind tunnel
Trek bikes fan here, very disappointed with this. They killed the emonda for this??
No. They killed the Madone for this. This was probably supposed to be an Emonda until Trek had to cut SKUs because they're in financial trouble.
Yea they really did. They could have done a better job like use the gen7 Madone front more carbon and deeper fork and then gen 8 Madone with skinny stays. Would look much better
Great colour scheme looks very nice 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
These colors, somebody got paid for choosing them.
Looks like a children's toy and I can't unsee it 😢. The bottles are not helping one bit.
Imagine riding a bike with supermarket colors
The gen 7 only came out 5 mins ago.
Lmao..I was thinking the same thing 😅
Looks funny, manufacturers always making changes! The pricing doesn’t reflect it’s total manufacturing cost, if it was made in America completely than the price is justified!
Still enjoying my 2011 trek Madone 5.2 and it rides like new and lighter than this one.
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Not loving the paint job... also I know a few heavy riders, one who cracked a frame by BB, and the other complained of flex. @GC why don't you test ride it and compare it stiffness with S works
He don’t ride bikes unless you count him riding around the parking lot
Regret not getting gen7 when it was still available in project one. This mf look like a Honda instead of a Ferrari 🤣
😂
Nice bike for sure. Previous Gen had more style though. Looking good is worth 100 watts.
"That's a nice hole there, could get two fingers in there" Grant you never fail to deliver hahahaha
That hole makes the bike comfortable to ride. I rode it and I have a Domane and Couldn’t tell the difference btn the two in terms of comfort.
Hi GC performance.
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those handle bars are so round wtf
better for climbing in the tops lol
Everything is nicely done! The only thing I dislike is the seat tube's odd design it feels like it will be broken in half at any time 😂😅
Fair enough
i wonder if the aero comparison to the gen7 was done with the bottles
Obviously
@@GCPerformance18 😪, gen 7 + the bottle cages + elite/crw wheels >>
Apart from paint and bottles, It's a perfect looking bike
idk, Light weight bikes are cool, but 15lbs? I'm afraid I'd destroy that thing. I'd like my bike to last longer than 2 years.
Back to the future. Tube shapes are looking like gen 3.
Yea it looks really old school
Um. It’s a pass for me. My 2024 Cervelo S5 weighs 6.5kg 😂. (No pedals // 52T 1x with cages , varia mount and Garmin mount.
You should calibrate your scale 🤣
Nice bike but sorry its too heavy
All I heard was start buying gen 7 framesets. There's absolutely no way that thing is the same aerodynamically. Also the gen 7's compliance is so good that on 25c grand prix 5000's I'm always worrying that I've punctured a tube, then I realize it's just the isoflow doing its job. I can't tell the difference most days so when I get a flat it catches me by surprise.
Great video 🎉
Thank you 😁
LOL the finger hole
lmaooo
This is like windows 8 compared to windows 7 and no one wants to upgrade 💪
hahahahha
so this all aero vs superlight was just a marketing trick to trick us into buying more bikes ??? I am SHOCKED
I mean 7.1-7.3kg is decent. I saw some channel weigh Tour de France bikes for this year and they are in the 7.0-7.6kg. range
That handlebar is a head scratcher, everyone knows more bends equal more critical structure points for the carbon handlebars, now we have 4 more , looks like a coat hanger
I’m trying I swear to God I’m trying to at least get lukewarm about that seat post / top tube junction contour thingy
When does the Domane come out?? I love it cause it's an endurance bike!!!
It’s been out for a while. I don’t think there is a revamp any time soon
The water bottle cages accept aero bottles and round bottles
Nice thank you
Will they stop manufacturing the Gen 7 😭??
yes this is the only madone going for
@@GCPerformance18but is hasn’t even been a full year since the SL7 gen 7 was launched and they are already discontinuing it ?
Of course they are selling the lighter bikes less material = less cost per unit. They obviously have to adapt to the current economic conditions
I think the cost cutting comes from only offering one Racebike instead of two. The material cost is probably negligible. Also the market trend is obviously moving away from hardcore aero bikes
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Love the new Madone except for the color options. A Trek bike should always have the viper red color option and matt black. IMHO the new color option just don't look cool. :(
Jesus, it isn't even that light. RIP Madone SLR and Emonda. Also, the Gen 7 Madone SLR will remain the sexiest aero road bike ever made. This ain't it.
I knowwww
Too heavy for 2025
agreed, if this is highest price, bone stock it needs to come in under 7kg
Heavy fore size m
Awesome video,love the humour.Definitely get 3 fingers in there.😂
Glad you enjoyed
Is a Medium a size 56 or 52?
52-54 it says on the frame
Gen 7 looks better and it built with the new sram it will be way closer to the new ones weight.
I’m on my 2nd gen 7.
Sorry most of us bought the aero bikes for the look.
So it didn't take a full year for the competitors to get rid of the chunky bottom bracket area like Specialized initiated with the SL8 :D Canyons new Aeroad as well
hahaha yea wild that they all followed suit
Top specs build for this bike is 14pounds. Really light.
Is this not a top spec at 15 lbs?
@@terrellpickett7904 top spec is all about what you can add to the build to make it lighter.15pounds is good but 14 pounds is even better.
@@terrellpickett7904well sorry I meant custom build. You can still get it at 6.7-6.8 size medium in black frame.
still 7.5 kg with pedals.
No I’ve seen top specs build at 14pounds with pedals and bottle cages
@@ekm3820lightweight wheelset
The frame is 700 something grams. You can definitely make it lighter
@@diehardbikes medium is even 690g so imagine if you are riding XS or small.
Emonda with madone seatpost
Trek wanted to create new Madone, but made an Emonda. I like it though.
yea it looks way more like an emonda then a madone
So it’s just as heavy as the old Edmonda, and potentially less aero than the old madone. Curious to see how it tests in Tour magazine. Do like the look though!
Based on the data on treks website its faster everywhere, especially with any type of grade other than zero.
@@86Digilio yeah I’m keen to see Tour Mag test it
We shall see
Lego colors
Lego for real
Stunning bike! Looks amazing in the carbon black colour.
Ha ha can’t even get hold of 2024 bikes and release a 2025
lmao they are hard to get a hold of becvuase new ones always being madee
@@GCPerformance18 I get that but don’t be asking for pre orders and then not delivering on them or pushing dates back to late August/September.
This is 3 different brands in the UK.
All the compagnies do the same one bike for climb and flat road it'S perfect for the compagnies and for us now we i have to pay 😂
Yea way easier for distributors
Awesome bike review! Love the Gen 8 changes too.
Right on!
Looks like Huffy designed it
lmao
Crazy innit that we are halfway through 2024 and we still haven’t got an Aethos killer from any major brands. 😮💨 The Big Red S reigns supreme
yea aethos is til out there, but I do not see them pushing it as much as i thought
@@GCPerformance18 you know how’s it like. These people working 9 to 5 who rides only on weekends prefer Tarmac because that’s what the pros ride 😂 -they ain’t riding an Aethos.
But then again, Aethos is a bit of an odd ball where it’s marketed for the masses but its geometry is for highly functional World Tour Pros.
Slam that stem! Yikes...
Sure it’s fast than the Emonda but I just don’t believe it’s faster than Gen7
yea same here, I think alot of it has to do with the water bottle cages and bottles taking up a lot of the space in the inner triangle
Seen a $20500 trek bike on marketplace two years old struggling to fetch $9999 so... Hard pass!
love the color they put on the bike.
The Emonda is dead, long live the Gen8 Domane.
Gen 7 came out not even 2 years ago and they already pushing it out smh it looks way better than this ugly thing
Yea they needed to make the front of the bike more aggressive. Just keep what the madone looked like
13k Bike in Discounter Supermarket colors (Lidl hahaha), who wants that??? Also still hating the useless aero hole
The bontrager wheels are super trash. With the new newmen wheels (1050g) bike would be awesome