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0:00 - Amazon accused a customer of racism due to a “racist doorbell” incident.
0:30 - Amazon cancels the customer’s account.
1:02 - My Amazon Associates program application is rejected.
1:32 - Amazon claims I violated the operating agreement.
2:03 - Use of Amazon affiliate links.
2:33 - Amazon accuses me of breaking terms of service.
3:04 - My history with Amazon affiliate links.
3:36 - Suspicious timing of Amazon’s account cancellation.
4:06 - Amazon’s claims of abuse are wrong
4:37 - I question the significance of the claimed violations.
5:08 - I do not believe the accusations.
5:39 - Discrepancy in Amazon’s actions.
6:10 - I would prefer a more honest response from Amazon.
6:43 - I question the reasoning behind Amazon’s actions.
7:14 - This isn't real money...
7:45 - The creator emphasizes the growing issue of powerful companies’ behavior.
8:16 - The creator mentions the FTC’s lawsuit against Amazon.
8:46 - The creator questions the lack of vetting before account removal.
9:16 - Conclusion and call for viewer feedback.
amazon drivers are independent contractors, Amazon does not talk to them for any reason at all.. Why are you telling us all lies ?
Amazon admitted this happened on national news. Try again troll
LOL, Troll was picked out and pinned to the top! Enjoy your pillory.
@@petervitale4431what does a torture device have to do with this? 😆
I banged your mum and sister.
@@robaxl3088 The pillory was used to publicly humiliate criminals. This troll was pinned to the top so everyone could see their idiocy and publicly humiliate them if desired. This is the same function the pillory served.
Wow.... Not only that's extremely petty, it's also worrying when it comes to totalitarianism and censorship
It’s kinda hard for a corporation to be totalitarian when shopping there is voluntary.
Edit: stop acting like I’m dumb because I’m smart enough to know “totalitarian” is a word only used to describe a government, not a voluntary service. As soon as you stop buying Amazon’s shit they have zero power over you. You’re not a literal prisoner like a citizen of a totalitarian government.
@Jake-bt3fc i mean, not so farfetched if it's a monopoly as it's trying to be uncontrolably. But yeah, there are still alternatives.
@@Jake-bt3fcI’m assuming you’re in high school
@@Jake-bt3fc - currently still voluntary
@@Jake-bt3fcand the people will clamor for their new Alexa anal probe.
That is absolutely pathetic of Amazon. Proof yet again that a corporation shouldn’t have this much power because they can’t be trusted to not act like a pathetic child.
Is it a scumbag move? Yes. Should they be prevented from doing it? No. We should have people like Louis airing their dirty laundry so we can make informed decisions like SHOPPING ELSEWHERE.
@@peppermintpig974 Where else though. That's the problem. Amazon and WalMart destroyed local businesses. But where do we go now?
people let them, not owning anything from amazon is pretty easy, so is not using their services at all
@@MrMichealHouse I think the core problem is that we've grown fat and lazy off of Amazon. Why put in the legwork to find a lamp that fits the aesthetic we're looking for locally when you can just hit the button on Amazon.
But if you do put in the legwork, you'll find that all of the essentials and a lot of the "nice-to-haves" are perfectly available locally. For example, I wanted to buy a cowboy hat. Like, where, if not online, would you eve *shop* for a cowboy hat? Thus, I bought a few from Amazon and had to return all of them because they were garbage. I finally got sick of the trips to UPS and searched locally. And guess what? There was a boot barn 20 minutes away with hats in stock. Was in and out of the store with my perfect hat that day.
@@peppermintpig974no, I think it’s not a stretch to say that this behavior shouldn’t be allowed and should be punishable by law.
Amazon accused me of leaving a "racist review" - they wouldn't tell me what I allegedly said or on what item the review was allegedly left. Just that I now have "one strike" and there's nothing I can do about it. I went back through my reviews and looked and none of them have been removed and none of them are personal or in any way "racist." The closest I come to being insulting is accusing an author of a book of plagiarizing half of it (but I provided examples, and this review is still up). Amazon is such a giant company that they can't even figure out what it is you did wrong, just that they know they're right about it.
Amazon gone woke yo! lol
Gosh I’m sorry this happened. What is one strike? Third strike people get banned? Sounds so abusive.
Consumers should get together and sue Amazon for abusing consumers. Invite media or do this on social media like me too I got abused by Amazon sort of thing. People’s opinions do count when people become in large numbers and get to a point they can’t ignore. There are certain laws and regulations of prohibiting monopoly business and it always results in unfair practices to consumers. There are antitrust laws in place in the U.S. and companies like the scale of Amazon has been successfully challenged and they had been slapped before. The famous one was in 1994 of Microsoft. It was acting very entitled, setting terms and conditions unfair to customers and treating employees like crap. The thing is they are going against people’s rights of freedom of speech. Censorship itself is a fine line companies should be very careful. We can easily challenge them as we aren’t in a country like China or Russia.
Probably mentioned the word Chinese in one of your reviews, for obvious reasons.
I gave up totally on TikTok when they removed my account for 2 'hate speech' postings.
One posting was of Third Reich German Bishops giving the Nazi - salute - my text clearly detailing my disapproval.
The second was of a famous UK newspaper cartoon from WW2, of a soldier holding a paper saying "Peace - don't lose it again."
I'll be entertained to find how many 'forbidden' words YT censors find in this - inho perfectly reasonable - post.
Yep. Just posted a reply, detailing how I'd lost not an Amazon account but a tiktok one, with comments that included the words 'Peace' and the German word for Realm. In the space of a few minutes that YT post has vanished.
We all need new platforms.
We need to protect this guy at all costs, and he needs to be careful.
He exposes all big companies that do scammy shady stuff
He's no Jordie.
I am an Amazon seller, I thought of opening a channel just about all the bullshit Amazon puts us through and all the things the FTC should investigate them for.
That sounds like a good idea. These things will become more common unless people start seeing how petty and malignant these companies are.
Do it.
hurry up will ya
This sounds like an adventure!
You'd better do it anonymously, or you'll lose your livelyhood.
This is a certified Amazon moment.
Ha true xD
This is a certified dystopia moment.
Jeffrey Bozo still ass mad that his wife cooked him with a black man and took away half his fortune 😂👌🏿
You Sir are going to be blessed with likes
"Which It's on brand" -Luke
I was once "cancelled" by Amazon for writing reviews about my verified purchases. They claimed I was writing reviews for personal profit, which I hadn't even heard of at that time. They rejected all my appeals until I called their customer service and kindly asked them to review my Amazon purchase history and help me understand what their complaint was. They restored my ability to write reviews after that.
Not sure if you are aware of it or not but there is apparently in some branches of amazon and similar sites that deliver for other companies both positive and negative marketing review wars. Where bots or other sheningan accounts give bad reviews to a competing corporations product to push their own to the top of search lists.
You could have been mistakenly been caught in a bot search against such practises. My brother was banned from his half an hour old account that didn't have a chance to buy anything for being a bot which took him some work to refute so Amazon really has some overzealous and questionably competent bot hunting practises.
That's why I don't do reviews. I don't want to be accused of making a false review, good or bad.
Isn't the entire point of an affiliate marketing to incentivize someone to market a product so that ultimately more of that product is sold? Doesn't amazon benefit from every single sale to some significant percentage?
@@simonwahlen7150 And it's not just Amazon. It's every tech company now. The fact that much of the internet is now policed by these sorts of bots, often with no avenue of appeal for false positives, should frighten us. Myself I just lost access to my Instagram account shortly after I logged into Threads with it. The stated reason? Apparently my 4 year old IG account is a bot account. No appeal, the account is gone.
What I have been learning is that Amazon needs to face some sort of reckoning for its business practices. The biggest thing that needs to happen is some sort of anti trust legislation to prevent any entity from assuming so much power over supply and distribution. As we have seen, it invites all sorts of abuses, and harms consumers and sellers alike.
Agreed, I said exactly the same thing in my comment as same message as yours. So nice to see another person recognizing this. There are many antitrust laws and regulations in place to prohibit monopoly. People need to bring attention of Amazon abuses in millions collectively and it will become federal issue.
The fact that Amazon see's you as a threat to their image is impressive enough - keep up the good fight Louis
They should see it as a thread!!! People don't like making business with such scumbags. And you can exist without (the services of) Amazon!
Imagine only 5% of us viewers (533k when writing this) taking it serious and buying our stuff at another place (maybe support your local businesses ... what we should do in the first place?). That will be Millions and Millions lost for Amazon. And possibly family and friend who never ever buy anything on their cesspool, for the rest of their life.
Money is the ONLY language they understand!!!
It does look quite obvious why they cancelled your account a week after your doorbell video exposing Amazon.
I was initially considering their 'ring' cameras and Amazon smart devices as I do have a number of Amazon smart devices around my home but you've helped me reconsider.
It's not right that Amazon can shut down our smart home & we have to go out our way to find evidence to prove something we didn't do.
@@dieSpinnt🧵 I love being a thread
Amazon " Ve haf vays of making you comply n ye shall never cross us again, while ve point out that u r de scuzball wit da scam steelun from uz. Tak dat! Now use iz a gut bad ezapple of vat how ve handle vormy apples"
@@dieSpinntIt's one of the many reasons I don't publish my award-winning work (book series) on 'Zon. NO ONE should support 'Zon, ever.
You should reach out to Lina Khan, she's going after them, may be worth the effort, she seems to be on the same page about a lot of Amazon issues.
Tomorrow's video goes over this in detail.
In theory your suggestion is excellent. In practice, here's what actually happens: czcams.com/video/HibW8CQK1js/video.html
I already had enough of my inquiries fall on deaf ears there. Remember those right to repair rules Biden's executive order asked the FTC to draft in 2021? Remember the anti trust attorney I paid $50k+ to assist them with the process of understanding the repair landscape? Pepperidge farm remembers... and we have nothing to show for it. czcams.com/video/LuUkKbB67iY/video.html
That was actually supposed to be the topic of today's video. But it will be the topic of tomorrow's because I got this email while I was recording that one.
I am beyond disappointed at the FTC's lack of teeth in going after anything.
It doesn't matter if we are on the same page if someone is completely ineffectual in their practice. I love fixing things - but if I don't manage my company properly, nobody here will fix things well. and my customers will be worse off for it.
Stay tuned for tomorrow's video, I am digging into this. I have lost my patience with the FTC's inaction.
@@rossmanngrouptime to send Jeff on a titanic expedition 💀. Hope you got some Logitech controllers lying around
@@rossmanngroup Now I want a Pepperidge farm cake....
Top-down solutions only work when you're at the top. We the people can only stop buying Amazon and start buying local. It is what it is.
@@JokeswithMitochondriayou have no clue how ginormous Amazon is, a government has to break up that monopoly
Amazon has bigger problems than this. Over the past Christmas I heard of a lot of parents avoiding Amazon and buying elsewhere because they were sick of all the scam and crap merchandise on there.
i just got 127 bucks 12 months or so ago from amazon class action lawsuit for price gouging, and basically having their sellers up their prices too, it took about 14 months but it was nice to see amazon pay for once lol
Never have, never will buy amazon/ ebay
Amazon isn't missing earning forecast due to your extended family or parents at your local school.
What? You do not want to have a "selection" between SUHANWOI or XOHUANA or HDLKEIOOJ as product brands? ;-)
The American version of 'that' Chinese company. Good luck peoples!
If Amazon was feeling threatened enough to feel the need to do this, you can take this as a really good sign that impact was made!
So let me get this straight. Amazon's plan to deal with you giving them bad press coverage is to give you a definite reason to not only talk about the previous story again but a new anti-Amazon story as well? That's so brilliant it loops right back around to being stupid.
I worked for amazing. They had trainings for the employees where they told us to defend Amazon in social media, if something was saying something bad about Amazon it was our "responsibility" to protect the image of the company. So if someone had a bad comment online we were supposed to fight em like fanboys. Fortunately i quit that job, Amazon is like a cult
Looks like someone at Amazon needs to be told about the Streisand effect
Amazon is a monopoly, they don’t care about bad press.
@@mushyroom9569 Sure they don't care. They are too big to fail from someone like Rossman, but still. It's the utter stupidity that makes them look like a petulant child is the gross part. Instead of being "upstanding" about it like Rossman pointed out they could have done, they have to look like idiots.
It's called The Streisand Effect and they are working it perfectly.
Account closed literally for what Amazon deems to be wrongthink. I know it's hard for a lot of people to boycott Amazon but it ought to be done as much as possible.
These incidents add up and amazon will get their fair share of bud light treatment.
Sadly, I don't even have the option to. Where I live, my only two options to buy most things are Amazon and Walmart, and Walmart is arguably more unethical. It is kind of scary when you think about it.
It's a bleak thought to realize we live in a world where your patronage consideration have to include figuring out which companies are the least unethical. More and more I feel like Uncle Ted might have been correct.
Yes. An increase of Prime cancellations due to this video would be a start. I wonder how far up the chain of command did this go for this to happen in this situation.
@@Rhaspun I am sorry, but I don't think I can afford to pay shipping for all the stuff I buy weekly. Amazon is a giant because they host almost 6% of the web. That is why the pandemic helped them, their AWS is most of the profit.
"You violated the terms we just made up. Sorry, but we must destroy you." Thank you, Amazon.
Amazon canceling customers from their shitty service is actually the least morally objectionable thing they could do.
It's pretty scary that Amazon knows your friends and family are, supposedly, buying their stuff. Even if true, it'd be a good proof of their disrespect to privacy.
Even if this WAS true, Amazon is still selling products.
If the accusation was true, they're selling even MORE products than they would without the "cheating".
Don't you understand privacy anywhere is a compete joke?
I was thinking about that... I wonder if some random person with the surname Rossmann bought something from Louis' affiliate links? And then Amazon was like 'AH HA!' Laughable, but, wouldn't surprise me.
@@bob808Let's be honest, some Amazon executive was looking for any and all "defendable" reasons to hurt Louis as a response for that video.
That's the worst part too; I hate this but literally CAN'T stop giving Amazon any money. I can reduce the amount I buy from them and shop elsewhere more, but some things, like specialized cables for connecting older electronic devices to newer ones, or T-shaped USB-C splitters and magnetic cable adaptors for smartphones, are simply not available to purchase even in the largest and most well-stocked electronics stores.
@Gadg8eer Here's me, literally never paid a cent to Amazon in my life....
I live in New Zealand though, so Amazon doesn't have much of a market here.
As someone who has sold on Amazon for 22 years, this is very normal for Amazon. They are 1000 times worse than this.
So you started selling before Amazon even made a profit what a veteran
I'm a software developer and had an issue I couldn't figure out. On 15th some months ago I opened a ticket to AWS support, they made a couple of replies and stalled the conversation until the end of the month so we'd have to pay a second month of paid support to have this ticket fixed. Extremely petty, this could have been solved in 2-3 days
@@Thawne1338Is there more than one meaning of ‘sold’?
@@spicynoodle7419That's software sales 101. Charge for every customization, and any issues that arise go beyond the agreed upon term of service will require an extension of the term of service at the customer's expense before they will be fixed. Then pad that lead time to ensure an extension.
@@spicynoodle7419That extremely peculiar, tbh. Cloud providers generally roll over backwards to keep customers happy.
Defund Amazon!
This is the business equivalent of "locking someone up on a humble". They found a very minor infraction on your account, and simply used that as an excuse (under the strictest interpretation of their TOS) to cancel your account. It's transparent behavior, but they don't care about that. For Amazon, there is zero risk of being called out publicly for this action, and their benefit is to take you off of their platform. It's a win/win for them.
What is the infraction though? Millions of CZcamsrs put Amazon Affiliate links in their descriptions. How else do you promote their products?
Agreed. Just what infraction is he supposed to be guilty of? @@SwapPartLLC
In their attempt to silence/punish Louis, Amazon has proven his point.
It hurt itself in its confusion
Kinda like Ye not all too long ago lol.
This reminds me of that crazy eBay stalking story with those ex-ebay executives.
@@ViIgax kids with leukemia shadow government moment
Best comment.
Please file a lawsuit
What's the case?
No he can't. He already said, you don't have the RIGHT for an affiliate program.
because he can affoard millions of dollars in lawsuit only to lose because thats a stupid reason to sue for.
You don't understand lawsuits at all smh
That would be great but it often is not that simple as "fuck they denied me, let's sue them now." These large companies often have countless legal statements in their contracts that make them often able to deny someone for almost any reason or at least a reason they can say happened. Plus they often make you which you agree to when you apply to go through arbitration in any disputes which further puts you at a disadvantage.
This has to be exhausting for you - there is so much going wrong in our world and calling out even 1% of it has to be mentally draining. Thank you for keeping people informed as to the ludicrous amount of control we keep giving away; more and more without people even realizing it.
This needs to make the news too apparently. Amazon needs to be held accountable for their actions.
Haven't used Amazon in years. Screw Jeff Bozo.
jeff doesnt run amazon he just made a bunch of money off it
Haven't used it in years and I just deleted my account for them.
Jeff left Amazon a while ago btw, lol.
@@eternalgamers10so, the sentiment hasn't changed 😂
I don't have an account. I keep getting contacted by scammers claiming to be from Amazon so I felt I'd get confused. I don't want to give my bank account details to scammers by accident.
7 years ago I wanted to delete my Amazon account and it was a real hassle. Took a lot of hoops to jump though to just simply get rid of an account and every hoop just made me more determent, simply because I don't like being treated that way. Damn If I had known back then that all I had to do was just to leave a couple of racist reviews I could have saved myself a lot of work and research.
🤣
#lifehack
You are not the only one with this problem, it's similar to trying to give up a time$hare
@@kodavidkokoracism works for timeshare this as well, fake or real, doesn't matter
Based on the previous story, you don't even need to actually say something racist; you just need someone to *say* you said something racist.
Amazon has increasingly become disgusting. I’ve been scammed a few times and for those who have, we know how difficult they now make it to get things rectified. We need to do class action lawsuits or even better ideas. I’m sick of it!
They dont do their homework. Act before getting all the facts and have gotten away with it so far, but there is going to be a breaking point.
This shows how horrible they are internally as a company.
Shame I'll be dead when Paleontologists discover Amazon and wonder why the Amazonian government failed. Must've been war with the country of Google.
Good job, Amazon. I'm sure that your vengeful response to a viral story won't also go viral.
They don’t care. Not one single cent will be lost because of this. They know that.
@@TheShattenjager I'm not using any Amazon services or products specifically due to incidents like this one. Sure they may not be losing heaps of money instantly, but turning points exist and even the largest can fall.
@@Real_MisterSir While you may not be purchasing Amazon services directly, using their services is basically unavoidable at this point. You'd have to completely cut off your internet services to be free of Amazon services (AWS).
It'll just get lost in the noise of all the other horrible things they and other big companies do, all of which pale in comparison to the things our own government does to us.
Someone needs to explain the Streisand Effect to them.
Not surprising that Amazon retaliated to your video.
Massive companies like this are extremely spiteful and can usually get away with it against the average person.
Etsy did worse
Louis isn’t average. They don’t understand who they messed with.
Here is the story czcams.com/video/yUf9ID2Gnfw/video.html
@@TheBooban exactly. Cancelling an account of a person with 1,8 mil subscribers is not a bright idea.
This will spread like wildfire 🤣
@@elenabob4953 whatd they do man
I hope Amazon then deleted their account for selling the item in the first place!
Remember this rule: When you're small no one pays attention to you, the moment you've reached a bigger status online or otherwise some people/companies want to destroy you because you pose a threat to them. Human survival instinct is always at play.
This is obviously retaliation. It says something about the amount of integrity they have (none, obviously) if they aren't even willing to admit it.
Why tf wouldn't his relatives or friends just send him the money directly lmao
Why buy crap they don't need and sending Louis pennies through Amazon.
Obvious retaliation yeah
I'm getting stuck on the reason in the email. So what if Louis was sending his friends and relatives to the link? He signed up to get a kick-back on sales he generates. Effectively a sales commission. Why is it a problem if he does it through word-of-mouth instead of, or in addition to, his YT channel? He's still generating sales that would not have otherwise happened.
@@fritznien It's not the real reason they just needed something to say he was doing.
I mean when you consider that amazon doesn't really have to worry at all about funding, it makes sense. After all, a lot of people don't realize that they do get quite a bit of funding from the US Government, just like many of the social media giants (including youtube), just follow the money and you'll see who funds them. Its why amazon can get away with this without repercussion.
@@fritznien I'm stuck on them calling his 7-year-long business association with them a "temporary account."
I have boycott all Amazon products and services for a couple years now. And seemingly every single week I get further reassured it was the right decision. Vote with your wallets, people.
You avoid every website that uses AWS? Do you have a list of all of them? I'd like to see it!
I too have done this. For a couple of years it was maybe one puchase a year, now its none
I know plenty of morons that would celebrate that type of behaviour and give amazon more of their money for punishing those they deem to not align with their views (even if that isn't really the case but ultimately it's all about them feeling better than other people anyway, it's not actually about social justice).
Generally Amazon only has cheap crap. Only time I bought things was when I was building my PC and even then many of the parts I just got from Micro Center.
👊🏻 absolutely!
They did this to me, but they said my youtube channel wasn't relevant enough to the program.
I'd be fine with it, but they never paid what they owed me.
I rewatched this. Every time that I hit the link YT prefaced it with a relatively lengthy Amazon advert.
Adding insult to injury the Amazon way.
I love when trillion-dollar corporations have the same level of maturity as a 15-year-old reddit mod.
so when you divide maturity amongst a large number of people, with computer automation involved, its like the sensitivity goes up, common sense goes down.
less maturity than my toddler niece
*tells toddler that no story time cuz they drew on wall after being told not to
Toddler: punches and pinches and screams and kicks you
Bruh the average age of a reddit mod is like 39 💀
@@_GOD_HAND_ goes to show that when they are 39 and immature as they are, imagine them being 15...
7 YEARS to REVIEW your application! 2016! Did they get stuck in a Plank doing Dubstep to Pokémon Go?! Did you apply with a VINE account? What in the clown train wreck is this?!? 😳😂😱🤡
Amazon saw his post on myspace and it upset them.
@@MrTheHillfolk Yeah they finally found his BlackBerry 😂😂😂😂😂
This ain't no chocolate rain... it's a shit storm
I was just saying clown world isn't strong enough.
Clown train wreck sounds about right.
Doing dubstep 😂
What are you like 80?
Sorry that you're dealing with this bullshit Louis. I've been wavering about completely cutting Amazon out of my life and this video sent me over the edge. I should have stopped using their services years ago. I can only hope the population at large at some point sees these monopolies for what they really are and shift their money back to smaller businesses.
Billionaires with big egos come with a secondary concern: their companies becoming an extension of those egos.
This is what happens when a single company is allowed to grow waaaay too much.
Not just that, also we the consumers not keeping these huge companies in check by punishing them with closing our wallets to them.
"Allowed to?" Who do you think has the authority to tell a company how large it can grow? And how large must that entity be in order to wield that power?
@@snex000the FTC allowed them. Time to get to work
@@snex000 The government has that authority and had it for a long time or do you think monopolies that once existed commited seppuku?
@@SlevinCCX Read the whole comment, idiot. You are concerned that Amazon is too big so you want somebody EVEN BIGGER to order them around. Absolutely fucking moronic. Why exactly won't the government use that power to prop Amazon and punish YOU? Oh wait that's exactly what happens. Idiot.
It's incredibly frustrating how quickly and easily these corporations can flip a switch and take away one's well-being.
@@greenthumbscapersshame on people trying to make their being well using what resources that are available, they definitely shouldn't get comfy but still.
@@greenthumbscapers shame on you for allowing corporations to do this in the first place
Why do you think they want central banking and everyone an electric vehicle?
A good, and funnily enough, chinese quote, "You get what you pay for".
Pay with your freedom, have it takrn away from you.
I'm sure all the mom and pop stores you shutdown by ordering from them and Walmart would laugh at this, if they weren't already gone.
Sue them..
It's no longer about money as its value has declined and they already have most of it.
It's all about POWER.
Well, you know what category a company belongs to when they start lashing out at people who report their shady business practices.
that isn't what happened
I don't want to say a name, so I will just say Donald T. No wait, that's too easy. Let's call him D Trump. Yes, that's better.
@@goblinphreak2132What happened?
Good of you to notice!
@@SnaxMang according to the screenshot that he showed before, he was booted for ABUSING his affiliate link.
More than likely he had an affiliate link with one account and then another account. He buys products off his own affiliate link using his second account. Which means he gets "money back" as affiliate links pays you when people use your link. Commission on affiliate links are 1-20% the item price. Imagine getting 20% back from buying off your own affiliate link. Its scamming Amazon and he was booted for it.
But sure its because he made a CZcams video. LMAO
We(as consumers) really need to stop buying products from these companies that don’t even let us own the product. We have to vote with our wallets
id rather buy the cheapest items and wait 2 days.
We do, this is why they keep making their products less consumer friendly every day.
Also making things worse does not make people happy.
Our wallet does little to no damage to a company who gets their biggest part of their revenue by lending courier services and licenses to their servers. That being said, I’ve never bought from them, and I won’t start it now.
We have to do more than just vote with our wallets.
I would just like to point out that had Amazon not frozen your affiliate account, I would not be aware of Amazon's treatment of the person with the doorbell.
They literally just proved your point of not trusting large corporations with your stuff. I’m so done with Amazon.
What gets me is that they consider your account as 'temporarily registered' even after 7 years. Makes you wonder if the doorbell guy knew his smart home devices he bought and paid for were also 'temporary'.
Doorbell guy here. I'm 100% aware that the echos are temporary. Anything that needs a cloud connection will definitely be a paper weight at some point (I assumed 5-10 years). Now for my real infrastructure (since I self host most of my own stuff so I was not really affected at all by amazon though people never read the article) the only thing that's gonna turn those machines into paper weights will be something critical breaking that I can't replace or simply 15-20 years has passed and newer hardware is just blatantly better.
Also keep in mind that Amazon gave out the echos like hot cakes. I got at least half of mine for "free" when buying other stuff. Again, for me they are replaceable auxiliary units. We just used Siri when Alexa was down cause I have basically nothing dependent on Alexa besides the ease of use of not need your phone on you in the house.
I didn't expect to get "canceled" by Amazon though and have them basically take away devices I bought. I knew at times AWS would be down, or internet would be down, power, etc. Didn't think that though.
If it’s any consolation, I‘m one of the few people who read your replies here. I love hearing from OPs, and don’t understand how others can just go into the comments and fire of a „dumbass lol“ without registering the PINNED comment. oO
We don’t have a „smart“ home because we don’t see the appeal, but we are looking into hosting our own cloud system and backing all data up via a RAID system.
It’s so good to hear how much effort you put into making it the right way. =)
Amazon is temporary too...
@@DevBrandonJackson What is it like having a smart home instead of everything being traditionally manual?
I imagine "free" signups are "temporary". But if he had paid Amazon for a linked account, they would have to wait out the paid for period.
Not that I'm certain there is any paid option, as it sounds like it wouldn't make the money back.
Amazon should put a "We may terminate your account for any reason or no reason, and we aren't required to give you a reason" clause in their Associate ToS. This is just embarrassing.
I think it is about time to make law or something that concerns about this.
This is a problem to most ToS or ToA
I'd be surprised if it doesn't already say that, most sites' TOS that I see do say something like that
They already have something similar to this. Amazon associates stole over $10,000 for me and never gave me a reason why they closed my account. They just told me to "open a new account and follow their guidelines" and kept closing my accounts.
@@kusucks991 They definitely have something in that account, even for business association accounts on their AWS platform. That's how parler got nuked -- Parler actually had an opportunity to make inroads against Twitter, and Amazon "suddenly" noticed that they weren't removing wrongthink fast enough, so they shut them down. PS: Twitter is also partly hosted on AWS as well. Strangely, their content isn't bad enough to be shut down.
AWS, a cloud backbone service provider, has ToS that determine what type of content its customers are allowed to use. That's like your credit card provider shutting down your account if you try to buy Lucky Charms instead of Reese's Peanut Butter Puffs.
A good first step is asking other content creators to not push amazon products.
Keep going on Louis! This is what big companies are afraid of, we the common people having influence and sway. Keep telling the truth.
That's why we must DECENTRIFY TECH. Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Alibaba, Oracle, IBM...have WAY TOO MUCH CONTROL over the internet.
I do full stack web development and all of my websites are on HostGator- BAD IDEA!!!! I just got done fighting with HostGator locking my account over 'suspicious activities' when I bought some domain names - and I've been a customer for 6 YEARS! And then THEY forgot to remove the flag for billing and they suspended my websites and accounts because they screwed up the billing flag that did not get released!
We techies really need to PRESS for more decentralization. Big Tech isn't your friend - all they care about are profits and CONTROL
Another sign that Amazon needs to be split
Retail and physical delivery need to be separate companies.
@@meow69696 don't know the numbers of GCP and Azure but I don't see anything that resembles this competition in the ecommerce field
Which will increase the importance of lobbying and corruption in the eyes of companies.
"Amazon is too big which is why we need an even bigger entity to tell them what to do."
Brilliant plan, Einstein.
Like Standard Oil back in the days? Amazon should not be split, it should be shred to atomic level!
Meanwhile Amazon is being sued for deceptively getting people to sign up for Prime and then making it difficult to cancel..... Karma!
I was given 3 months of prime for free and then found they had charged my bank after the first month. They refunded both payments of GB£8.99 after I caught them although they said to me they could only refund one payment until I emailed a screenshot of their offer and my acceptance of it......
so, to be able to cancel prime, we gotta use the gamer word now?
I dunno. I have repeatedly joined and canceled Prime, rejoined, canceled again, etc. I never have the slightest issue canceling and I make no effort to remember how. I have to look for it and still had no trouble.
They did this to me, signed me up without me ever giving permission to do so.
Honestly, had to look with a magnifying glass not to sign up with prime, refusing it every time when making a purchase. They keep moving the opt out option on the layout. Three years ago I received a card via post, I thought it was a voucher for a discount, but no, it was a sort of a reminder (as I ignored their emails), to subscribe to prime. They offered 3 months for free... not interested in any of that shit. There are months I don't buy anything, why paying for a subscription? I don't even do Netflix! LOL.
I absolutely despise Amazon. The way they treat people is downright dystopian.
They were trying to avoid looking petty but they made themselves look even pettier.
A few years ago I was falsely accused by Amazon of "review manipulation" and they blocked my ability to write reviews and removed every review I had written even though I was in the top 10K of reviewers.
Ironically enough during this time Amazon continued sending me automated solicitations to review more products because my feedback is really helping their customers.
It took over a month of to receive a response to my appeal and my account was magically reinstated with no explanation or apology. I discontinued my Amazon Prime membership (mostly because they were constantly missing delivery promises) but I hate to reward bad behavior.
Amazon blocked me from leaving reviews for over 2 years. At the time they blocked me I was about 2 months into my Amazon prime membership. I called and complained and asked them to refund my membership fee. They refused. I argued with them for a long time because they wasn't going to let this go. I wasn't getting anywhere so I had them escalate this and they put me on with someone higher. I told them that they had effectively stolen my money because I was unable to access all of the features of my acct. This argument went on for a lot longer but it ended when I told them I was recording the entire interaction which I was. I got my refund and never signed up for prime again. They eventually restored my ability to leave reviews but often block individual reviews. I hate shopping with them but I live in a rural area and find it next to impossible to find a lot of things that I need. This includes homesteading items which is ironic because I live in an area with a lot of farms. This was no doubt intentional. They want to control everything.
Amazon don't help themselves. there was a period of over a year when if I ordered something to be delivered to an alternative address an item would turn up at all my alternate addresses. It too me a while to see that although I was getting three I was only being charged for one.
I used to do reviews for Amazon back in the day, even had what they used to call a real person or real name account, some verified thing they used to seem to care about. A while back I tried to review something and it said I couldn't leave reviews unless I spent over a certain amount per year on Amazon lol.
@@wayland7150 Be honest.. did you take major advantage of that? 3 for 1 PC components, PS5, tools,lmao
There's no point in having a prime account, 9/10 times they deliver just as quick without it anyway
Rule #39: There is no such thing as a coincidence.
I love your channel as you don't sugarcoat ANYTHING. You hold companies accountable
Gibbs rules FTW Louis needs Gibbs' Rule #16: If someone thinks he has the upper hand, break it.
@@binladen-ci7jm Rule 39 still applies. LOL
They aren't coincidences they're "cohencidences."
"There is no such thing as luck" - Obi Wan
Sure their nom du voyage is called "conspiracy theory."
The more you talk about it the less of an opportunity it is for them to make life to the everyday individual a living hell. keep up the amazing work and the people will share it like wildfire. hope your doing well. keep being an awesome person
Amazon has way, way to many counterfeit items on their site. I now only buy little BS items that aren't a big deal. For anything over $20 or so I look elsewhere.
This is informative and unfortunate.
All the more reason, why I am glad to not have Amazon Prime. Don't need excessive subscriptions if you don't need them, yo.
Don't F*ck people over. I'll waste my time to find products elsewhere
So they cancelled your thing because they dont like your perspective, and masked their retaliation by claiming it was because you did something against their terms.
There really is a huge effort to control how people see things. If they can't outright make you perceive something the way they want, they shut you up. Like each outcry is a little fire that they stamp out. But all it does is kick embers elsewhere, multiplying their "problem".
but the thing is their reason is unknown. they're like an enourmous blob of corporate jelly that spits out a decision at you. hopefully, when you throw it back at them, it lands with someone else who spits out a different decision better for you. That's all you can hope for. Gambling on the randomness of a star chamber process. No accountability, responsibility, consistency, fairness, or even a communication of what rule was applied based on what evidence. "We have discretion to do what we want, so fuck you."
well, there is Ebay after all.
@@robertmaybeth3434 Ebay is handing out bans just as lightly, not just for your account but for your name and person, permanently.
These companies like Amazon are trying to do a real version of "Wandavision" where they are trying to control not only a town, but the world. If you reveal their flaws or conflict with their perspectives then you are cancelled, exiled, outcasted as much as they can until you no longer exist in their "artificial world".
@@jprice_ name and person? scary: how?
Absolutely disgusting . But to be expected
Politicians need to justify their position by taking this seriously and conducting a decent investigation. It may be necessary to break Amazon up.
I had an Amazon package delivered by a guy who was screaming and cursing loudly as he walked to and from his truck. The neighbors heard it and came outside, and my landlord was there and questioned me about it all, like it was my responsibility. Since Amazon clearly hires delivery drivers with questionable mental stability, they'll need to learn that their drivers are not the "secret police."
It sounds like such an awful company to work for that I wouldn't be surprised if working for them MADE them mentally unstable.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559Truly, a modern day slavery job WILL damage your mental health. Being treated like a slave on any level of the spectrum with no respect for your health is toxic.
Wow, why would you have someone like that over to your house?
Probably had an earbud and was talking on the phone. Not that unusual today.
@@JessicaPradoHansonit isn’t slavery if you make the choice to work there and can leave for another job
I was an insider. I don't think it is a coincidence, but I have something else you might want to consider. We seem to have developed a culture in tech companies that push these decisions down to a very low level, essentially the equivalent of 'help desk' work. Think 20 year old kids making minimal pay, contractors in miserable sweatshops, high turnover and a crappy work environment all together. I was a manager of managers in IT. In my experience the first line managers in these business units generally have large staff and no idea what's going on except for the time the person clocked in and out. Nothing like this hits a managers desk until things go really bad and someone at the Director level sees it in the national press.
There are several things that could have happened. I saw all of these while I was there.
1) We had a person that was malevolent, envious, and completely hate their jobs (open about it on social media). They were given an opportunity to exercise power on someone they didn't agree with and had almost no chance of facing repercussions. They took out their frustrations on others, and eventually it boiled over to work and they were let go. But they crapped on a lot of customers before they were caught.
2) In our company, we gave the people responsible for these things a webpage with buttons to produce these emails. They were vague, reviewed by legal with carefully crafted double-speak, and were generic in every way. For the role, you just had to push the button to send it out. You could literally just send them out all day without having to read or research anything to make your quota. I walked up behind someone and watched them just click one of the default buttons every 2 seconds for 15 minutes until I 'had' to walk away.
3) We had the same issue internally only with less/no malevolence. For example, I had a problem with an expense report. I sent finance an email, they sent me boilerplate. I responded, they sent me the same boiler plate, I reached out via slack, you guessed it, same (identical) boiler plate. It finally took me digging up the persons phone on the internal org chart and calling her directly. At that point I was nice, she was nice, and she went out of her way to get me a clear answer from a higher level person. I got great service. She was a sweet kid but she was clearly distracted and overwhelmed with the volume she was dealing with and this wasn't an external request. There was simply no time for her to do a good job and that button seemed like a no-brainer. Before you ask, no they didn't want to fix the issue. Our mission was selling product, not doing a good job.
Great post. I don't know if it applies directly to Louis's situation, but I think it gives a good insight to how these companies operate.
I see this even in the huge American company I work for. No time for supervisors to train, ridiculous quotas that are impossible to reach while the shift manager tries to protect us from any quota questions because the equipment is junk AND IF everyone had to meet the quota, he would lose HALF his staff. 20 seconds of how we done good last shift followed by 7 minutes of complaints. Then you got out to -19F warehouse with equipment that is creaking like hell and parts don't work or other malfunctions and portable printers that can't handle the cold but you're told to go in there anyway and spend half the night fighting some burnt out crappy printer.
I think it's highly likely that someone in upper management got pissed and told an underling to cancel the account. Why? Because most underlings don't even care about their jobs. They do what they are told. Some underling seeing Luis's coverage of what happened and deciding to cancel the account is pretty damn slim. ....And why would they have an underling do it? Cause management can't be bothered with something so "small". Also, potential plausibility from said management person
Unless they decided to do it themselves it because they thought it would earn them a promotion. And if so, they are just utterly dumb because it's more likely to get them fired. Luis now has a national and probably international platform and audience. If some underlying decided to cancel the account, you KNOW management is gonna shit can their ass to save face. (And probably NOT ever reactivate it either btw.)
@@OgdenM It's also likely that the underling is one of those "deus vult" holy warriors who thinks they are doing the right thing when they lock somebody out of their account for something like an "allegedly racist doorbell". I've seen plenty of platforms become toxic because the moderators picked a side or simply bullied people who had certain opinions. I don't think upper management was aware but I also don't think they cared.
Yeah, I've been the customer that got crapped on a few times now.
If Amazon didn't fire their employee for false claims against a paying customer, they are way out of line. This "everything is racism" crap needs to end. It will only stop when consequences are dealt to the wannabe victims
Absolutely! Any accusation needs to be be followed up properly. If this person didn’t have any recorded video evidence they would have no defence.
Amazon did the same thing to me twice. The first time, a few years ago, I replied that I spent trade putting together all the links, affiliate customers, and sent them millions in sales to get a few thousand of commission over many years. Amazon deactivated the account. The second time 1-2 year, Amazon shut down the account and deleted it, saying I wasn’t a verified entity based on my SSN which I’ve had since I was a child. Lately Amazon has been sending me Vine invitations based on the traffic I’ve sent to Amazon.
I think the fact that they’re coming after you just means you’re doing the right thing. Keep doing what you’re doing sir. and it wasn’t just Amazon, it was New York and a few of those other businesses that seem to do retaliatory things. Keep poking at them, they deserve it. Keep fighting the good fight
When you start taking fire, you are over the target.
Amazon is keeping ESG scores on all of us!
Back in the mid 2000s I got my account cancelled because I returned too many items that were faulty. Scratched DVDs, books that were falling apart. As they were coming from the US & the UK to Australia, they were obviously losing money. I copped the same sort of excuses though. That I was breaking their terms of service and lying about receiving faulty products.
Anyone who gives away that much control deserves what they get. 🙄
This is scary. I am disabled, can no longer drive and live in a rural area. I am pretty dependent on getting items from Amazon that aren't easily accessible to me by other means. To know that I could trivially lose my account is honestly scary AF.
Thankfully this is a hilariously minor concern, but they are obviously as petty as a 4 year old who needs a nap.
This is not a minor concern, you should start spending your money on some other online store. We need to stop spending money on these totalitarian companies.
walmart delivers too
@@hengineer lol. like walmart is any better
I am sure there are other companies who can deliver to you. It may cost a little more but at least you know they are not Amazon. Get in touch with independent stores near to you, and see if they can help. Explain your situation to them, and you could find yourself a better supplier.
walmart+ honestly has better deals 9 times out of 10.
This is even more concerning when you consider that Amazon has now entered the health care market. Are they going to take away health care services if people criticize them? This is a good video and the issue needs way more attention. Thank you for speaking out.
Pretty sure they just closed their healthcare branch.
@@ailynevensen nope, their foray into health care is alive and well. They have Amazon clinic, One Medical, and other health-related services.
Remember the plandemic? Many jab free were denied medical services like surgeries and transplants. It has started.
Amazon health care😱 do they send a drone out with a cardboard coffin if you contact them?
@@pauls7544 yep, it's a DIY kit too
Amazon has gone downhill… recently they shipped me glass screen protectors for an iPad in a poly bag! Arrived broken, upon exchange in a bubble mailer also broken. Upon return took 30 days for a refund of $8.55.
I think you nailed it Louis. Honesty really is the best policy and it's sorely lacking in today's world.
You need to take legal actions against Amazon, they are accusing you of things you haven't done.
Not publicly, he made it public himself.
@@QwoaX doesn't matter if it private or public only that it's recorded into a fixed medium and that it is false. The action of losing his affiliate status is liable for libel compensation for monetary business damages
well, if you are a lawyer who's willing to take on this pro bono then maybe you would get blessing;)
Remember what the libs say, private company can do as they please…..yes we need to regulate them and make them adhere to basic rights especially regarding free speech.
@@PatriotCody You only have protection of free speech from governmental entities, no one else..
The second I saw the title, my first thought was, "Well, that figures." It's exactly what I would expect from a company founded by Lex Luthor.
This what happens with tyrants, whether corporate or government (and these days, I'm hard-pressed to see much difference between the two). If you call them out on their wrongdoings, THEY won't get punished, they will ensure YOU get punished. For the past 20+ years, I've been watching this become the norm in this country. Whistleblowers of any kind are being persecuted and shut down for the crime of bringing the actions of criminals to light.
I sometimes have a dream where all politicians in the world are put on some island in the middle of the ocean and are baited to fight each other as the last man standing would survive (he/she wouldn't). Perhaps in the second wave you could throw all the CEOs, who did anything against free speech, human rights and people.
I'd totally not miss any single one of them.
SNOWDEN IS A HERO AND I AM BUMMED AT TRUMP FOR NOT PARDONING HIM AND WELCOMING HIM HOME. I'm fullMAGARETARD, and proud, but we are no cult. We disagree w our guy.
@@penguinjay You expecting him to do that is exactly the problem with your position.
Thinking a rich politician is 'your guy' is proof enough it's a cult.
"And the animals looked from man to pig and from pig to man and back again from man to pig. Already it was impossible to tell one from the other".. You were warned people......
This is why I don't buy anything from Amazon any more and canceled everything.
"Never underestimate the petty vindictiveness of those in power." - Detective Inspector Henry Crabbe
You are one of the most stand up businessmen of our generation. Amazon cancelling you is a badge of honour!
Amazon would love to buy out Google and Disney if they could afford to...but Disney remains the #1 Corporate Monster.
Badge of honor, rather
He is a small government libertarian, just like the billionaires in the submarine. Don't pretend he's perfect. Small government is exactly what lets the curtains fuck us over
@@trophyscene5015 I mean if you want to know just how evil Disney is, all you have to do is look it up.
Arguably they're worse than Amazon by several orders of magnitude, and Amazon basically shoves kids in cobalt mines.
There is currently a Teamster suit against Amazon in California near Palmdale involving Delivery Drivers like myself. Essentially, Amazon claims they don't have to negotiate with unions because they don't directly employ the drivers. THIS case I think will blow their claims out. They can't claim to be a contracting party and yet cancel accounts and services for customers upon complaints from a driver. I've been weighing involvement and now I think I'm going to offer up my own assistance to the suit.
Interesting
I’m originally from Lancaster, CA, rare to see the AV mentioned. Delivery drivers in Lancaster for Amazon were really good and mostly professional.
Amazon is unfairly pernicious.
Absolutely disgusting to hear this and yeah, I heard about the whole shutting down the house because of some employee 'thinking' they heard something. That is absolutely ridiculous. Gotta stop doing business with these shameless Chinese sellout companies.
Amazon is implementing there own social credit score system. Amazon needs to be investigated and held accountable for forcing this social credit system.
The US already has a social credit score system that is far more personalized and robust than the PRC's version. Amazon doing it is nothing special
so they're copying China? there's no way that's not going south
I hear you loud and clear but unfortunately it goes on deaf ears only because of crooked Joe and his gestures of crooks
by whom? the establishment which benefits from defacto social credit system? hell, they'll probably funding amazon to develop this technology and test it more before they implement it federally.
No, the only reason they have power, is because absolutely nobody is willing to not use Amazon. Everyone is guilty. Stop being a liar.
And they think this is somehow a punishment, this is a favor. They exposed them themselves for what they are. A corrupt company moraly bankrupt to the core
Does it count as exposing themselves if we already knew that?
@VileVamp yes.
Pretty much like all companies
We need better regulation to reduce the power of these corporations.
I would also go so far as to say what’s wrong with my friends family using my affiliate links? they’re still buying
The sad thing is, this is 100% something I'd expect from Amazon.
What's even more scary is how Amazon knows their relationship to you and the creepy extent their purchases are being tracked.
What this proves is that either they don't know the connection of the accounts or that they're willing to violate their own terms because their feelings got hurt.
Those company’s are fascists! Say no to big corpo and big gov!
@@spiderpig1736what up Big Bez
Not just their terms I think, this might even just be against privacy laws? Not that they'd care about breaking laws, but still.
Or rather how they believe that they do. While being wrong about it.
Amazon: "You violated the terms because your kids, grand-kids and nieces bought your stuff at special conditions!"
Seller: "But... I don't have any kids or siblings."
Amazon: "Your account is terminated."
Cancelled my own Amazon account years ago due to their false and deceptive advertising. They blamed it on the fact they are the middleman, but the deceptive ads were on a website under their control. I will do without rather than purchase through that unscrupulous company.
F Amazon. More and more I go directly to the manufacturer to purchase what I want.
Amazon did the same thing to me a few years ago, with no explanation. It does nothing but make them look bad. Great video, Louis. There's plenty of better affiliate programs out there anyway.
Yea 🤗
@@UCgx7OseCrundqkE8oEVeobg depends on niche..
For example if you are reviewing an Logitech mouse and referring them to amazon link (they will give 2.5% comission cut), why not simply refer them to Logitech official store and get 5% comission and exclusive discount codes..
People use amazon affiliate just for ease (for example applying for each store seperately quite a hectic task as compared to amazon where i can find every brand products)..
But it is also true that amazon is one of the worst affiliate program, their terms and conditions never made sense and they just ban most of people for no reason...
Amazon has a broad definition of "family & friends" when it comes to affiliate links... So when they see something they don't like, they can pick and choose which accounts they punish.
they know exactly what they are doing and it is by design.
It never ceases to amaze me how petty a giant, multi-billion dollar company can be. You're right how it is scary how much Amazon owns and how much we rely on them. There may come a day when you don't dare to cross Amazon because being blacklisted by them means you can't purchase anything. At all.
I do not buy, sell, drive semi truck for, or have anything else to do with Amazon. More people should follow suit. There is life before, after, and without Amazon!
It's like the doorbell story wasn't dystopian enough for them so they went from incompetent to malicious.
What's interesting is Amazon admitted knowing who your friends, relatives, employees, business associates etc.
So, how do they get that data?
It's not like when people register on Amazon they would fill in forms telling Amazon who's & who's in their circle of relationships.
I don’t even know what’s wrong with that. They still get the sale. Why should they care who bought it? Many companies actually work like this.
@@TheBoobanyou don't see what's wrong with that? Do you work for a tech company or something, or just empty headed
It makes me think that these corporations need to be dismantled by Roosevelt style trust busting. As in they seem to know more than the FBI would.
First thing I thought of. I can see if they knew about my elderly aunt who I buy for because she is pretty much homebound but how are they getting all the other info? As you say we aren't completing a form. I am in the process of sourcing everything I buy from them elsewhere. Problem is other sources are disappearing like Lake Mead water in the drought.
@@TheBooban Big Tech keep track of all your data and have cooperation between them so if you do something in 1 company, the others will know right away.
It's basically China lite of control everything you do.
So outrageously inappropriate behavior.
6:00 amazing. Exactly. But the corporate overlords don’t think they owe the truth