MAGNUS CARLSEN secretly CRUSHES Jan Gustafsson in his live stream

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2017
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    1:55, Jan talks about this game while being with Magnus :)
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  • @jurajjurik9246
    @jurajjurik9246  Před 4 lety +1212

    Have a laugh with the one and only GingerGM, hilarious moments of the funniest grandmaster! czcams.com/video/An7AM7rMwVU/video.html

  • @crulio
    @crulio Před 3 lety +10889

    Magnus Carlsen makes Jan go from unshakable confidence to questioning his choice of career in less than 6 minutes

  • @Meta-Drew
    @Meta-Drew Před 4 lety +13902

    "I already dislike my position"
    Me before my first move

    • @harryblakey3919
      @harryblakey3919 Před 4 lety +149

      me when i am in black

    • @Szabby999
      @Szabby999 Před 4 lety +7

      Good one, same for me! :)

    • @DCfromBC
      @DCfromBC Před 4 lety +33

      This is the greatest comment ever left on CZcams. Period.

    • @GlobusTheGreat
      @GlobusTheGreat Před 4 lety +62

      You reminded me of a moment I saw in a Ben Finegold instructional video. He's teaching a chess class to kids. He goes "okay, now I find that a lot of you guys blunder from this position." Then on his screen, he reveals the starting position.

    • @archdukefranzferdinand567
      @archdukefranzferdinand567 Před 3 lety +11

      @@GlobusTheGreat He's not wrong. My go-to opening move when I was a kid was a4

  • @PrinceofMacedon
    @PrinceofMacedon Před 3 lety +7028

    this is the most real GM I've ever seen: "This is a line I've never studied before."

    • @coltenpfeffer4730
      @coltenpfeffer4730 Před 3 lety +135

      I used to watch your videos 5 years ago because of your strategic intelligence. Its cool that you play chess now too

    • @meikalainen6547
      @meikalainen6547 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah Prince is good In rtw but how is your chess that I can play with you? :)

    • @kevinb314
      @kevinb314 Před 3 lety +122

      Also “I shouldn’t be playing chess” and a few other good ones thrown in lol

    • @coltenpfeffer4730
      @coltenpfeffer4730 Před 3 lety +1

      @@meikalainen6547 im 1100. Not that great

    • @dandogamer
      @dandogamer Před 3 lety +5

      Fancy seeing you here, I've watched your rome 1 videos like 8 years ago 😅

  • @VicenzoV
    @VicenzoV Před 2 lety +2023

    Imagine how relieved Jan must've been when he found out it was Magnus.

    • @travalenguas.
      @travalenguas. Před 11 měsíci +155

      4:09

    • @RaniaIsAwesome
      @RaniaIsAwesome Před 9 měsíci +1

      Probably relieved.

    • @tuandingkang3263
      @tuandingkang3263 Před 8 měsíci +23

      @@danielmorganjr2989 he knows he isn't cheating cuz he keeps repeating "he just keep blizting out move"

    • @biedawo
      @biedawo Před 8 měsíci +27

      5:23 ..... not sure if totally relieved

    • @ryanwongny
      @ryanwongny Před 8 měsíci

      @@biedawoo

  • @callmewisdom
    @callmewisdom Před 6 lety +28498

    "Either he is the biggest genius in the world or this is just weird." Well, he is not wrong.

    • @draxwar3
      @draxwar3 Před 6 lety +183

      he is not magnus it was an engine.

    • @chrisolson2846
      @chrisolson2846 Před 6 lety +507

      Shut it Rocket Man.

    • @4c00h
      @4c00h Před 6 lety +93

      Not really.. it takes about 2 seconds if you're quick with the mouse and anyway nowadays there are software which use OCR and move pretty much instantly so along with a good connection you can get each move at around 0.5 to 0.8 seconds per move. Still not as fast as a human who can premove.

    • @4c00h
      @4c00h Před 6 lety +11

      Sure buddy

    • @Joshuaposada
      @Joshuaposada Před 6 lety +91

      4c00h he isn't wrong. Besides the unorthodox moves is not something Houdini for example would do. There is clear style in his play.

  • @j.6230
    @j.6230 Před 6 lety +22437

    That moment when you get stream sniped by Magnus Carlsen lol

    • @exjwflatearther6554
      @exjwflatearther6554 Před 6 lety +101

      who is magnus carlson?

    • @nebojsazakic
      @nebojsazakic Před 6 lety +96

      Carson*

    • @oneeco
      @oneeco Před 6 lety +9

      Look at the title....

    • @Subscribers-gj6oy
      @Subscribers-gj6oy Před 5 lety +69

      ExJw FlatEarther One of the best and youngest chess players.

    • @MotRi1986
      @MotRi1986 Před 5 lety +365

      @@Subscribers-gj6oy Is it enough to describe the guy that have been ranked as the best chess player in the world since 2010 and is three time back to back world champion as one of the best in the world?
      He is the undisputed best chess player in the world, have been that for almost a decade and you can argue that he is the best of all time.

  • @irisce2799
    @irisce2799 Před 4 lety +4825

    0:16 “he goes f5... now he’s trying to humiliate me”
    I aspire one day to reach the level in chess such that I can interpret my opponent’s opening choices as a personal attack.

    • @TheBeakertube
      @TheBeakertube Před 4 lety +372

      Here it's because that opening, 1d4 f5, is called the Dutch defense, and our streamer is Dutch.

    • @irisce2799
      @irisce2799 Před 4 lety +171

      TheBeakertube I thought Jan was German though

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes Před 4 lety +14

      I know right, lol. At the end he still had the advantage in pieces, but I guess his positioning was bad which made him resign? I have no idea what a bad position looks like in chess but I guess it's when your opponent has the initiative all the time. Hopefully one day I'll take my time to learn chess.

    • @bobbobbity463
      @bobbobbity463 Před 4 lety +95

      @@Leaffordes He was going to lose a rook next move and a pawn soon after. He wouldn't be able to recover from that.

    • @MoleculeTwo
      @MoleculeTwo Před 4 lety +71

      @@TheBeakertube No, Jan is german

  • @puzzLEGO
    @puzzLEGO Před 2 lety +1885

    "either he's the biggest genius in the world or..."
    yeah, you could say that

    • @CABOOSEBOB
      @CABOOSEBOB Před rokem +10

      Yeah lmao

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz Před rokem +23

      He was implying that the guy could be cheating without directly accusing him

    • @kaleidoscope3234
      @kaleidoscope3234 Před rokem

      @@NJ-wb1cz This video is 4 years ago. AI couldn't beat GMs back then.

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz Před rokem +89

      @@kaleidoscope3234 "AI" was beating world's top super GMs over 25 years ago, and regular GMs well before that

    • @U_C_G
      @U_C_G Před rokem +51

      @@kaleidoscope3234 The inaccuracy of this statement is laughable

  • @vanamutt43
    @vanamutt43 Před 5 lety +22314

    Love the dude’s attitude...just straight up said he was outplayed, no excuses...
    Love it, thats really the sign of a strong player/person
    Instant fan now..

    • @betochiwas
      @betochiwas Před 5 lety +18

      0

    • @ex0duzz
      @ex0duzz Před 5 lety +355

      Lol yea, you don't get to be a GM without being honest with yourself about your chess game..

    • @richardmatthias6098
      @richardmatthias6098 Před 5 lety +281

      @Nobodeh DontNeedToKnow Well sharing your account with Magnus is kinda cheating

    • @Kaploy8
      @Kaploy8 Před 5 lety +91

      @@ex0duzz Unless you are Nakamura.

    • @gunnaruppstad3574
      @gunnaruppstad3574 Před 5 lety +535

      @Nobodeh DontNeedToKnow no, he hinted at it being Magnus. He knows Magnus and Salomon are friends and that Magnus has a history of playing on his friends' accounts online, this is well documented, especially on ICC. He's a regular second of Magnus, he recognises the style which is why he says this guy is just too good for me, and mentions the 'instant' moves to clarify no engine suspicion.

  • @davidmcgregor4537
    @davidmcgregor4537 Před 6 lety +6191

    "I'm missing every move, I should not be playing chess." Story of my entire career. (If you can call it that)

    • @Christian_Decroze
      @Christian_Decroze Před 5 lety +65

      David,
      Couldn't help laughing when I read your comment. I could have written it myself.
      Your "career" is mine.
      After decades of practice, my Elo Ranking must be something like 1040 maybe less, and I still can't see a 1 move Checkmate. Why the .uck do I (do we) stubbornly continue playing Chess ?
      'cause it's fun :-)))

    • @rawtrout3402
      @rawtrout3402 Před 5 lety +12

      K R he is rarted

    • @djsickbeatz4005
      @djsickbeatz4005 Před 5 lety +34

      Must be stuck in “Elo hell” and blame it all on ur teammates

    • @nischay4760
      @nischay4760 Před 4 lety +3

      @@KR-oi5yx he is exagerrating a lil bit😂

    • @mrdudeman29
      @mrdudeman29 Před 4 lety +3

      I feel that on a spiritual level just got my elo on chess.com to 800 and it feels like a huge victory :p

  • @noobmaster31
    @noobmaster31 Před 3 lety +1680

    "Why is this guy blitzing out every move, he never thinks. And his moves are not obvious"...goes to show the real difference between your average GM and Carlsen.

    • @jonathanross4851
      @jonathanross4851 Před 3 lety +317

      And most people would consider Jan to be a borderline super-GM himself.

    • @noobmaster31
      @noobmaster31 Před 3 lety +158

      @@jonathanross4851 exactly right. Jan is a good GM.

    • @halligalli3354
      @halligalli3354 Před 3 lety +171

      Jan is in the team of Magnus Carlsen or he was in his team. Jan Gustavson has write books about chess and is really strong. I think that Carlson just make a joke with him. The reaction of Jan was great. Sry, my english is not great.

    • @extremeptgaming6193
      @extremeptgaming6193 Před 3 lety +58

      @daniel hilt Ah, yes, it's for sure only memory... Lol

    • @marcoyolo1095
      @marcoyolo1095 Před 2 lety +46

      @daniel hilt yeah bro sure all memory bc it is possible to memorize 10^120 moves...

  • @shlomosuke
    @shlomosuke Před 2 lety +578

    I'm honestly very impressed by his attitude. Dude's getting absolutly bodied, and acknowledges it. And the line "either this guy's a genius or it's just weird" is the cherry on top. Magnus plays so fast and so perfectly it almost felt like it was a machine. Loved it

    • @Sanderus
      @Sanderus Před 2 lety +21

      He believes he is playing against an engine.

    • @triflomastera4882
      @triflomastera4882 Před 2 lety

      He's on Magnus's team now lol!

    • @IrregularPineapples
      @IrregularPineapples Před 2 lety +33

      ​@@Sanderus No he does not, that's why he says it's weird. His opponent is blitzing his moves -- meaning that it can't be an engine. His opponent is simultaneously playing like a human and an engine. It doesn't make sense to him.

    • @gc6329
      @gc6329 Před rokem +13

      Tbf, he literally said "this is the biggest genius in the world or something weird is going on"
      He was right 😂

    • @s1dew1nd3r4
      @s1dew1nd3r4 Před 4 měsíci

      can you explain to me why he resigned? there was still chess to be played at that point he resigned surely? he could go ruck to E3 then losing the backline ruck but capturing magnus' bishop with the king? or am i totally missing something?

  • @Carlos-bx7ts
    @Carlos-bx7ts Před 6 lety +11287

    Magnus just 360 no scoped him from across the map

    • @thetechegg8859
      @thetechegg8859 Před 5 lety +100

      Who says CSGO players are stupid.Ayy ma man speaking chess!

    • @superbus8102
      @superbus8102 Před 5 lety +92

      Magnus took his awp and did the nifty wallbang

    • @TheMusic30000
      @TheMusic30000 Před 5 lety +103

      @@thetechegg8859 Eh, its more of a cod thing

    • @methadon3000
      @methadon3000 Před 5 lety +33

      Watch your God damn mouth when you're talking to the two time

    • @buddythebeastman
      @buddythebeastman Před 5 lety +6

      you made my day

  • @hudsoncaceres6820
    @hudsoncaceres6820 Před 5 lety +7748

    This is really a testament to how good Carlsen is. He is so skilled that other professional players are sincerely baffled by his playing.

    • @akshith37
      @akshith37 Před 4 lety +729

      Larbitosツ how about others? Do they live in stone age?

    • @limit2620
      @limit2620 Před 4 lety +51

      akshith teki u nailed it !

    • @limit2620
      @limit2620 Před 4 lety +134

      Larbitos O_o firstly comparison itself is wrong... humanity is constantly evolving...so you can for sure expect way stronger chess players in the distant future and Carlsen will look like a club kid along with them

    • @9MRSG
      @9MRSG Před 4 lety +1

      Alpha zero

    • @fks_ado
      @fks_ado Před 4 lety +101

      @Larbitos O_o The new generation will always be better, that's just how it is. You cant bring up a hypothetical situation like Murphy being born in the 2000s as a point because it will always be hypothetical. Fischer, Kasparov, and now Magnus was lucky and skilled enough to be born in later generations and have the talent for chess to be where they are today. You can always say that a caveman could possibly be faster than Usain Bolt but isnt because he isnt born during the modern day, but no, thats just not how it works.

  • @firstlast7184
    @firstlast7184 Před 4 lety +561

    Jan is so lovely. His mother raised him well. Magnus, ya big bully.

  • @anatolydyatlov963
    @anatolydyatlov963 Před 3 lety +183

    "I already dislike my position"
    Magnus: "yeah, me too" and changes the way he sits in his chair.

  • @soumonism
    @soumonism Před 6 lety +7046

    That Jan didn't make more excuses or percieve the situation wrong says alot about him.

    • @youngpatrick29
      @youngpatrick29 Před 6 lety +171

      I’m sure the idea occurred to him... but yes not saying it out loud is the smarter choice

    • @bobdole7292
      @bobdole7292 Před 6 lety +173

      .... "i'm not sure what's going on there mr. salomon, that's too strong for me." "moves made instantly, and they're not obvious."
      he implied he was cheating. not only did he perceive salomon was cheating, but he made suggestive comments.

    • @timangar9771
      @timangar9771 Před 6 lety +211

      bob dole yeah... but also: "this is either the greatest genius ever or this is just weird." Weird = engine, greatest genius ever = ... well, he was kinda right if it really was carlsen

    • @ferretdash
      @ferretdash Před 6 lety +76

      It seems that Jan May have known it was Carlsen, Since he knew that Saloman and Carlsen were good friends, and that Saloman should have been sleeping for the tournament the next day.

    • @Lykyk
      @Lykyk Před 5 lety +137

      @bob dole
      No you idiot, if you cheat you DON'T make moves instantly because chess programs take time to go through thousands of moves if you put it on a high level.
      Try one out before you talk shit.

  • @EGarrett01
    @EGarrett01 Před 6 lety +10303

    3:55 "He doesn't make sensible moves, but he keeps tricking me."
    This is essentially the same description that Carlsen himself gives to playing against superhuman engines. They're like idiots who beat you every time.

    • @thetrickster42
      @thetrickster42 Před 6 lety +258

      Near it doesn't apply to most chess engines and definitely not Stockfish. The points system is not just "9 points for a queen".

    • @govindmprabhu
      @govindmprabhu Před 6 lety +17

      Ancient But you're the one who's Ancient here

    • @Game0verFool
      @Game0verFool Před 6 lety +124

      Near I'm embarrassed for your reading this. Which decade have you just come out of? You seem to have mistake modern engines with ones from 20 years ago.

    • @miladibrahim1068
      @miladibrahim1068 Před 6 lety +109

      EGarrett01 lol I heard that too from Magnus, and this just proves that if a move doesn't make sense to you then it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense in reality,

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Před 6 lety +18

      +Near you are 50 years behind how the current engines work.

  • @babyseal_5
    @babyseal_5 Před rokem +159

    1:52 “I can take the pawn but he will of course have huge compensation on these dark squares. Still a pawn is a pawn. I love grabbing pawns” That part cracked me up. Jan trying to convince himself that taking the pawn is a good idea

    • @discharm210
      @discharm210 Před 5 měsíci +3

      And then regret it 5 moves later🤣

    • @hssy2jrocker
      @hssy2jrocker Před 3 dny

      He mis-spoke. He meant to say white squares. Because Magnus' white square bishop can snipe across the board while Jan loses his white square bishop and cannot counter it

  • @kukuruznik-258
    @kukuruznik-258 Před 2 lety +95

    I love how Jan says "mister Solomon" just like Smith says "mister Anderson" in Matrix.

  • @albertbatfinder5240
    @albertbatfinder5240 Před 4 lety +3619

    Jan, you made a lot of fans with your attitude to this game. Integrity and insight and common decency. Best game you ever lost.

    • @anwardivierparedes7138
      @anwardivierparedes7138 Před 4 lety +33

      Not really. He was basically calling the guy a cheater.

    • @ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle
      @ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle Před 4 lety +9

      Not really. Basically, he was calling the guy a cheater.

    • @EinfachNatur
      @EinfachNatur Před 4 lety +2

      Not really,. when he play vs the best,.. is it a other position. When you´re a super High player,. and a other make you still ez game over. Thats a moment,. who you maybee say,... mh... wtf is this Person?! :D Maybe he is the best in the world!? =)

    • @DerSuperoldie
      @DerSuperoldie Před 3 lety +166

      @@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle No he wasn't. He said multiple times that he was blitzing out moves implying it can't be an engine. The moves were engine moves but in human pacing , which is why he called it "weird".

    • @ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle
      @ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle Před 3 lety +10

      @@DerSuperoldie Context for this comment, there were 3 comments previously (now all deleted) that said a variation of "Not really, this guy is a cheater" So i continued the trend but doing another variation of the comment. I have no idea who these people are or how to play chess.

  • @Gastogh
    @Gastogh Před 6 lety +16441

    *after one minute of playing against Magnus Carlsen*
    I already dislike my position.
    *after four minutes of playing against Magnus Carlsen*
    Either he's the biggest genius in the world, or...

  • @rhysjones4250
    @rhysjones4250 Před 3 lety +235

    Incredibly humble sportsmanship. A GM is a genius in their own right and he got bashed on his own channel? Took it humbly with no complaints.

    • @NotQuiteFirst
      @NotQuiteFirst Před rokem +5

      He kept a professional and polite demeanor, but made many comments suggesting the opponent was using a computer to cheat. It's considered very bad form to accuse an opponent of cheating without evidence so he couldn't say it explicitly, but he clearly believed they were cheating (which in a sense, they were)

    • @barlin4972
      @barlin4972 Před rokem +5

      @@NotQuiteFirst Fair assumption. Very unlikely, that a random guy in the internet beats a professional chess player like this.

    • @vincenzofranchelli2201
      @vincenzofranchelli2201 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@NotQuiteFirst well his opponent is Carlsen in disguise. His opponent was 200 lower than him yet was playing like he was 200 higher so he was right that his opponent was playing above his advertised skill level

    • @NotQuiteFirst
      @NotQuiteFirst Před 8 měsíci

      @@vincenzofranchelli2201 The reason for his opponent outmatching him isn't the point. I was simply responding to the original commenter's assertion that Gustafsson "took it humbly with no complaints".

    • @vincenzofranchelli2201
      @vincenzofranchelli2201 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@NotQuiteFirst he said (or implied) either hes playing the biggest genius or a cheater, he was playing the biggest chess genius. So he was right

  • @matthings4133
    @matthings4133 Před 2 lety +93

    Who else watches this like once a year

    • @tassv5909
      @tassv5909 Před 2 lety +1

      yep, great combination as Jan speaks truth & Magnus plays truth

    • @kintarooe7745
      @kintarooe7745 Před 2 lety +2

      today was the day :D

    • @24sumo
      @24sumo Před 2 lety +2

      Me. And I just way watched it again lol. You’re comment made me laugh, it was spot on

    • @johart309
      @johart309 Před 2 měsíci +1

      here I am again, with all the comments already liked from me. and I still find it funny

  • @n3o924
    @n3o924 Před 5 lety +3649

    Ninja wouldve reported him for stream sniping

  • @dr.mikeybee
    @dr.mikeybee Před 5 lety +1206

    I'm impressed by how quickly Jan realized he was playing an amazing opponent.

    • @puppy8125
      @puppy8125 Před 5 lety +5

      Micheal Bee What? It’s obvious...

    • @jeffpulohanan9226
      @jeffpulohanan9226 Před 4 lety +106

      @@puppy8125 you just realized it because you knew he was losing. Magnus didn't do typical moves but made ones that are a few steps ahead. Incredible though i bet he could beat me in less than 15

    • @erenbaran8184
      @erenbaran8184 Před 4 lety +3

      @ensayofr Somebody really needs to bully you of the internet,you are replying everybodys comments saying Jan is a whiny bitch which he is not and insulting people
      Luckily for you i enjoy just seeing your kind exist in the internet so i am not gonna be bullying.

    • @aracoixo3288
      @aracoixo3288 Před 3 lety

      @ensayofr sarcasm 🎭

    • @3sm1rost84
      @3sm1rost84 Před 2 lety +73

      When the opponent is clearly superior you realize it quickly. There's the feeling that everything he does is effortless while you feel positionally dominated.
      Losing against someone much stronger has a different taste with respect to losing against someone comparable. I don't know how how to explain it better than this., 'cause it's more of a feeling than something quantifiable.

  • @doit425
    @doit425 Před 4 lety +439

    I watched ONE chess video and look where youtube led me...

  • @s2dda
    @s2dda Před 4 lety +2359

    This salomon guy were pretty good. He should consider going pro

  • @lonkis
    @lonkis Před 6 lety +4732

    Magnus Carlsen on a smurf account!

  • @h3lblad3
    @h3lblad3 Před 5 lety +841

    Awww... I was hoping to see his reaction to finding out on cam!

    • @miro6402
      @miro6402 Před 3 lety +132

      Same
      Edit: I don't know why I had to comment 'Same'. I could have just liked your comment like everyone else but I guess I'm a special noodle.

    • @artykillen9251
      @artykillen9251 Před 3 lety +12

      There is a video where they both talk about it in person

    • @zMazine
      @zMazine Před 3 lety +11

      @@artykillen9251 can u post it

    • @BoxLaneProductions
      @BoxLaneProductions Před 3 lety +2

      @@miro6402 same

    • @BoxLaneProductions
      @BoxLaneProductions Před 3 lety +1

      same

  • @janetcho3194
    @janetcho3194 Před rokem +69

    My favorite of all time, Jan is the man. He’s so perplexed. He would normally think it’s some engine use, but then the blitzing moves throws him off. He’s left totally bewildered and confused. It’s such a beautiful video.

    • @s1dew1nd3r4
      @s1dew1nd3r4 Před 4 měsíci

      can you explain to me why he resigned? there was still chess to be played at that point he resigned surely? he could go ruck to E3 then losing the backline ruck but capturing magnus' bishop with the king? or am i totally missing something?

    • @davidzhou718
      @davidzhou718 Před 4 měsíci +3

      His other bishop was also hanging, so after the whole sequence magnus would take the bishop with the pawn and would be up 1 rook (2rooks vs 1)
      This is hopeless and he can resign

    • @s1dew1nd3r4
      @s1dew1nd3r4 Před 4 měsíci

      ah yeah i suppose thats the case, i guess at the point it becomes inevitable..@@davidzhou718

    • @lma5508
      @lma5508 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@s1dew1nd3r4 Even after Re3 (Rd2 would be a slightly better move I believe, still losing badly tho) black would take white rook on F1. White can recapture blacks Bishop but will lose his Bishop. So he's just down a rook in any scenario. He was annihilated, at the level of GM being down a full rook is game over

  • @Spoon80085
    @Spoon80085 Před 3 lety +710

    It’s crazy how Magnus is so good that playing on an account with 2000+ rating and an IM is considered smurfing

    • @user-yv3zk1lk6c
      @user-yv3zk1lk6c Před 3 lety +12

      not that crazy, its no different in other ranked games

    • @r.brandt2246
      @r.brandt2246 Před 2 lety +24

      Eh, it’s 2000+ on Chess24. I’m 2000+ on Chess24. Magnus is 3000+ on Chess24.

    • @Spoon80085
      @Spoon80085 Před 2 lety +14

      @@r.brandt2246 What are you trying to tell me

    • @dracondebates
      @dracondebates Před 2 lety +39

      @@Spoon80085 I think the point is that the difference of 400 rating points is huge regardless of what the actual ratings themselves are. A 1200 against a 1600 is absurdly one sided. Similarly, the difference between a 2600 IM and a 3000+ super GM is insane. I think they were agreeing with you but phrased it in a way that seemed like a disagreement.

    • @stefanutzap
      @stefanutzap Před 2 lety +2

      It is surfing...

  • @kaizah1997
    @kaizah1997 Před 5 lety +783

    Even the anonymous profile picture looks like Magnus LOL

    • @muntiah5871
      @muntiah5871 Před 5 lety +31

      Huh? Thats not anonymous. Thats real account of GM Johan Salomon (was IM at that time). Gustafsson know who Salomon is. But not knowing that his account being used by Magnus.

    • @nelsonsanchez9055
      @nelsonsanchez9055 Před 4 lety +69

      @@muntiah5871 I think he meant the profile picture

    • @chillax9184
      @chillax9184 Před 4 lety +5

      Reading comprehension

    • @vumazwesiziba4103
      @vumazwesiziba4103 Před 4 lety

      Hahaha dude you are brilliant

    • @HalfDeaddz
      @HalfDeaddz Před 4 lety

      @@muntiah5871 its a bit late but,
      r/whoooosh

  • @CS-cd8ox
    @CS-cd8ox Před rokem +82

    Jan is the star of this in my opinion, his reaction to magnus's great play is so wholesome

  • @RonaldinhoPopper
    @RonaldinhoPopper Před 3 lety +111

    Thumbnail: "I will crush everyone"
    Actual video: "This guy crushed me before"

  • @Zenitself
    @Zenitself Před 3 lety +165

    Jan: “He is either the greatest genius in the world or just weird.”
    Magnus: Yes.

  • @marcsDill
    @marcsDill Před 2 lety +58

    "These moves aren't obvious......at least to me." Is why this is my absolute favorite chess match. "Why do I always miss everything? So sad." Is why I rewatch weekly.

  • @willburchett4667
    @willburchett4667 Před 2 lety +102

    “Either he’s the biggest genius in the world or”

    • @vumazwesiziba4103
      @vumazwesiziba4103 Před 2 lety +3

      "He's cheating" - that's what he wanted to say but didn't want to appear as a sore loser

    • @c.221
      @c.221 Před 2 lety +5

      @@vumazwesiziba4103 he said his opponent was "blitzing out moves" and "playing instantly" , implying that it can't be an engine

  • @seanupton709
    @seanupton709 Před 3 lety +124

    Crazy how a really intelligent GM who has devoted their life to mastering a board game can still be outclassed by an opponent that is semi trolling. Chess is so complex.

    • @TheHigherSpace
      @TheHigherSpace Před 3 lety +2

      yeah ches is very deep .. the difference between classes of players is so vast ..

  • @jeykob100
    @jeykob100 Před 3 lety +21

    Hes allowed to be cocky about winning with that honest attitude while losing. Respect to him

  • @isavin1730
    @isavin1730 Před 5 lety +532

    "Why is this guy blitzing out moves?" LOL

    • @AmplifyChris
      @AmplifyChris Před 4 lety +1

      What does that mean? Blitzing out?

    • @LD67117
      @LD67117 Před 4 lety +61

      @@AmplifyChris playing fast

    • @amex4453
      @amex4453 Před 4 lety

      @@AmplifyChris Tell me if you find out!

    • @Caaro99
      @Caaro99 Před 4 lety +10

      AM3X making moves very fast, like in less than 10 seconds.

    • @cizbarca
      @cizbarca Před 4 lety

      AM3X bc he is the best and plays constantly

  • @MaxAires
    @MaxAires Před 5 lety +443

    3:05 lol'd so much at his reaction

    • @DanArnets1492
      @DanArnets1492 Před 4 lety +14

      The internal screaming is BEAUTIFUL.

    • @enskyenskk
      @enskyenskk Před 4 lety +1

      Oh damn, missed that the first time. Priceless

    • @tasewa
      @tasewa Před 2 lety

      and one move later he realizes hes screwed xD

  • @jamesperez6785
    @jamesperez6785 Před 3 lety +89

    0:14 "hmm goes f5. Now he's trying to humiliate me big time by, not only beating me but, but by beating me, with the dutch! Which is even worse."
    that opening commentary by Jan is too funny!

  • @azamat_bagatov69
    @azamat_bagatov69 Před 3 lety +38

    4:15 I really felt that “Mm”

  • @burns9281
    @burns9281 Před 6 lety +1796

    stay humble because there is always someone better then you. oh wait unless u r magnus

    • @Vitringur
      @Vitringur Před 6 lety +106

      Magnus has lost plenty of games. Being a champion and having the best average success rate doesn't mean you win 100% of the time.
      Being better than someone is a vague term.

    • @SouRGraphics
      @SouRGraphics Před 5 lety +80

      Vitringur that's exactly why you play multiple games in championships and that's Magnus is the best

    • @rooksman64
      @rooksman64 Před 5 lety +2

      SouR Graphics lets see vs Caruana

    • @seantomas861
      @seantomas861 Před 5 lety +3

      Than*

    • @giovannibettini2246
      @giovannibettini2246 Před 5 lety +55

      @@rooksman64 rip caruana

  • @TheSchrewer
    @TheSchrewer Před 5 lety +25

    He’s screaming inside you can tell. The will power not to just punch the screen must have been immense

  • @Astrobay13
    @Astrobay13 Před 3 lety +1063

    Rewatched this after 2 years and only now realised he's suggesting his opponent uses an engine
    But tbf, who can blame him! It's way more likely your opponent is cheating than your opponent being Magnus Carlsen

    • @spaghetti2777
      @spaghetti2777 Před 3 lety +237

      Yeah, but he disproves it in the end by saying that the moves were instant which is why he says it's very strange since he doesn't think salomon is that good but at the same time, he can't be cheating.

    • @kimano117
      @kimano117 Před 3 lety +174

      @@spaghetti2777 Yeah players of his caliber can tell when a player is cheating with an engine, and I think he knows it's not that, he's just confused because what else could it be.

    • @KagirinaiYonaka
      @KagirinaiYonaka Před 3 lety +48

      i think he had a suspicion that he played against magnus, hence the sentence "either he's the biggest genius in the world (magnus carlsen) or this is just weird (because salomon was not that strong)

    • @jim0084
      @jim0084 Před 3 lety +67

      Cheaters are very obvious, the engine takes at least 10 seconds to calculate per move. If a GM thinks you are cheating, they will just flag you even in a losing position because it takes too much time to keep waiting on the engine. It's also extremely rare for a titled player to risk his title from an online game. Jan was just confused how an IM played like a super GM.

    • @Astrobay13
      @Astrobay13 Před 3 lety +18

      @@jim0084 😂 it takes an engine on a solid computer about a second to calculate a good move. Humans get crushed even in ultra bullet by engines.
      Apart from that it does usually take cheaters a couple seconds to enter the move into the engine, but there couldve been a way the guy he was playing looked at moveorders ahead of time or bypassed the human component and allowed the engine to interact with the board directly

  • @filmlak-1880
    @filmlak-1880 Před 4 lety +61

    0:19 now he is trying to humiliate me big time there, not only beating me, but beating me with the dutch.
    well, you were not wrong Mr Jan but you earned my respect for your attitude after losing.

  • @TheUntamedNetwork
    @TheUntamedNetwork Před 5 lety +326

    "You should be very careful before you accuse your fellow chessmates, of cheating with an engine. So instead Salomon, I will pay you a compliment; you Sir, play like an engine."

    • @christopherthompson5400
      @christopherthompson5400 Před 4 lety +6

      It seems interesting to me you comment in quotes. I suppose it makes sense because I write my comments like thoughts. Yours was well phrased though. Though I don't know how to define engine like play, I must say these guys put up great games

  • @escaperoomleander1948
    @escaperoomleander1948 Před 4 lety +86

    "Why does he keep blitzing out these moves? These aren't obvious moves...
    ...to me, at least."

  • @alb5275
    @alb5275 Před 4 lety +84

    I love how Jan accepts it and tries to analyze the situation with no bitter, angry or desesperation, that would be a hard battle for everybody himself in any discipline you're good at; we all have been there.

    • @mindfictiontv4664
      @mindfictiontv4664 Před rokem +4

      Did you even watch the full video? ''no bitterness* or desperation*''!?
      He straight up put his whole career into perspective. ''I'm missing every move, I should not be playing chess.''/"Why do I always miss everything? So sad."
      Then: **proceeds to resign** That's pretty desperate.

    • @human7491
      @human7491 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @mindfictiontv4664
      That ain't no bitterness. Bitterness is when you keep complaining and whining for ages, without touching grass.
      He sas just shocked, which is normal. GM's don't often get crushed like that.

  • @matthieu4514
    @matthieu4514 Před 3 lety +17

    every sentence of Jan is gold, can watch this in a loop for a week

  • @michaelreed2787
    @michaelreed2787 Před 6 lety +262

    That tactic at the end with the 2 bishops was pretty sick. Bxc2 Bd4 Bxb4 and then D3. I wonder how many GMs would spot that so fast.

    • @SamuelHauptmannvanDam
      @SamuelHauptmannvanDam Před 6 lety +61

      Jan saw it after the fact, just imagine that Magnus saw it as quickly as he did. The move made no sense - I mean it obviously did, but creating that creative that quickly is just nothing less than impressively scary.

    • @xoranginho
      @xoranginho Před 5 lety +10

      @@softan He himself said that he misses the old days where the moves played themselves. He said that these days he has to think a lot more directly about his moves.

    • @worldisfilledb
      @worldisfilledb Před 5 lety +2

      I have a question

    • @laynemccormic9102
      @laynemccormic9102 Před 4 lety +32

      WorldIsFilledB that’s not how you CZcams brother

    • @victordeluca7360
      @victordeluca7360 Před 4 lety +5

      @@worldisfilledb Don't we all?

  • @SaulMeyersz
    @SaulMeyersz Před 6 lety +25

    the commentary by jan makes this so much better.. since we know its magus playing.

  • @telesphoros
    @telesphoros Před 2 měsíci +4

    The more I see this game over the years, the more respect I have for Jan

  • @chazzz284
    @chazzz284 Před 4 lety +31

    Love the fact he's wearing a shirt and tie for his stream

  • @andersjakobsen9906
    @andersjakobsen9906 Před 4 lety +18

    I must have seen this 10 times now.
    Still makes me smile the entire time 😅

  • @bbxdesign
    @bbxdesign Před 3 měsíci +4

    I probably watch this video once a month. It's just so good.

  • @marcsDill
    @marcsDill Před 4 měsíci +3

    I'm back again to watch in 2024, after bungling 2023, to begin the year with a clear conscience. Perfect display of humbleness, humility, and humor sir. Lovely.

  • @x-Musashi-x
    @x-Musashi-x Před 3 lety +28

    There is engines
    There is Artifical intelligence
    And there is Magnus Carlsen

  • @wmsbasket
    @wmsbasket Před 2 lety +26

    And 2 years later he is a second of Carlsen, helping him to become world champion again. :D

    • @DasBaum123321
      @DasBaum123321 Před 2 lety +8

      at the point of the video he already had been a second for magnus for quite some time.

  • @ZeufAabe
    @ZeufAabe Před 2 lety +21

    The way he clears his throat and he struggles speaking, you can tell the man is in pain. Watching elite chess players get obliterated always makes me feel for them, it's obviously an awful feeling he's getting right now.

    • @Pohlolol
      @Pohlolol Před 2 lety +4

      the throat clearing is a generel habit of him, though. not trying to lower your displayed empathy ;)

    • @ZeufAabe
      @ZeufAabe Před 2 lety

      @@Pohlolol Oh is it ? I'm not familiar at all with the man and I've seen people clear their throat like that when they're shameful/embarrassed. Thanks for the info :)

    • @lucromel
      @lucromel Před 5 měsíci

      At some point Jan has got to start being concerned about his own health during this game. Seeing all these moves that don't make sense yet are winning, he's got to start thinking he's have a stroke or something.

  • @wysiwygdies
    @wysiwygdies Před 7 měsíci +2

    his face looks like almost crying at the end looking for new challengers

  • @sweeanntay5601
    @sweeanntay5601 Před 2 lety +7

    Came back to watch this vid after MC revealed his WCC 2021 team

  • @paultnt1
    @paultnt1 Před 5 lety +254

    This shows the difference between a strong GM and a super GM - Magnus knows complex lines of attack and can recall over 10 000 GM games from memory - he is probably in the top 5 greatest players of all time

    • @karntaneja3693
      @karntaneja3693 Před 5 lety +209

      the greatest of all time

    • @jasonmain6398
      @jasonmain6398 Před 5 lety +10

      Who would you even consider as close OP?

    • @paultnt1
      @paultnt1 Před 5 lety +36

      @@jasonmain6398 Hi there
      Carlson is rated the highest ever but for style and pure ingenuity I like Tal and Fisher ,they played at such a level it would be hard to match

    • @Htheorphanarian
      @Htheorphanarian Před 5 lety +141

      @@paultnt1 fischer prime vs carlsen prime, ali prime v tyson prime, optimus prime v megatron

    • @whokilledpitou
      @whokilledpitou Před 4 lety +41

      @@Htheorphanarian One of these is not like the others

  • @marksnazzy4737
    @marksnazzy4737 Před 4 lety +14

    This is the kind of video you watch at 3am and think: "Ight imma head out"

  • @Roman-fb9mq
    @Roman-fb9mq Před 2 lety +6

    4:09 "Either he is the biggest genius in the world or" Spot on buddy Spot on

  • @stackers165
    @stackers165 Před 3 lety +27

    "Either he's the biggest genius in the world, or this is just weird"

  • @daeuri
    @daeuri Před 2 lety +15

    I haven't seen anyone mention that Magnus made it up to Jan by making him one of his seconds in his match against Caruana.

  • @user-cc4gk6gx6w
    @user-cc4gk6gx6w Před 4 lety +40

    “He doesn’t make any sensible moves...”
    Checkmate

  • @nasekiller
    @nasekiller Před 4 lety +14

    "why is he blitzing all the moves, it makes no sense"
    thats what i as a layman think everytime i see professionals play.

  • @MrAlanfalk73
    @MrAlanfalk73 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Jan seems like a really nice guy😊

  • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
    @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur Před 6 lety +13

    4:07 sums up the video perfectly

  • @DaRza17
    @DaRza17 Před 5 lety +44

    Wow I knew Magnus is extremely good but this video still shocked me...
    ...Prodigy

  • @NoelKerns
    @NoelKerns Před 3 měsíci +4

    "Either he's the biggest genius in the world, or he's just weird...."
    Well, yeah...He's the biggest genius in the world.

  • @pmadood6970
    @pmadood6970 Před 4 lety +86

    Magnus prob over there watching the stream and giggling and shit

  • @theOrbitdeck
    @theOrbitdeck Před 6 lety +606

    I wanted to hug this guy at 4:43.

    • @Reedbull111
      @Reedbull111 Před 5 lety +4

      Orbitbrown I know right haha can you send me a brick or two

    • @Guywithair2
      @Guywithair2 Před 4 lety +4

      Lmao

  • @loosepieces6565
    @loosepieces6565 Před 6 lety +1161

    Code word meaning of "weird" is "engine"

    • @Neo-lc9wu
      @Neo-lc9wu Před 6 lety +5

      That doesn't even make sense

    • @armandoliebenberg6111
      @armandoliebenberg6111 Před 6 lety +144

      Yes it does. Do you know what a chess engine is?

    • @leerobbo92
      @leerobbo92 Před 6 lety +318

      Carlsen makes the most engine like moves out of any player in history, if I remember a chessbase study (or someone similar) correctly. He's not wrong to assume that, there's more chance of playing an engine than Carlsen online.

    • @1001011011010
      @1001011011010 Před 6 lety +9

      leerobbo92
      That would make sense, I've heard the same of Capablanca. But Magnus would make more sense since top players literally run through lines with engines. So it would be like he follows the engine who then agrees with whatever he did.

    • @clashy
      @clashy Před 6 lety

      You're thinking of Morphy.

  • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910

    Years ago he troll Jan and now they are working together.

  • @quebono100
    @quebono100 Před 2 lety +9

    Jan is the best chess moderator ever :) like his calm style and his honesty

  • @ISI.O
    @ISI.O Před 6 lety +6

    This would always be my favorite banter blitz moment.

  • @AsdfgHjkl-cw2gy
    @AsdfgHjkl-cw2gy Před 5 lety +10

    4:05 I come back here and rewatch this "are you serious" part often

  • @JH-en6ql
    @JH-en6ql Před 2 lety +6

    I just have to periodically come back to watch this, as it's absolutely hilarious to watch Jan's responses! :)

    • @JH-en6ql
      @JH-en6ql Před 5 měsíci

      I'm back to watch this again. I think everyone just fell in love with Jan with this video. Such a fun guy to watch. And a very classy guy!

  • @gvnady8380
    @gvnady8380 Před 2 lety +2

    "Mr Salomon" 🤣

  • @gigipapal6445
    @gigipapal6445 Před 5 lety +40

    I couldn't stop laughing on his reactions, haha. Nice guy this Jan. How sad face he had

  • @hvvpRAMBARD
    @hvvpRAMBARD Před 4 lety +7

    The moment Magnus played that Be5 move, Jan's expression😂😂

  • @theunknown21329
    @theunknown21329 Před 3 měsíci +4

    2:14 3:55 This is the funniest part lmao. Respect to Jan for not being a crybaby and simply accepting that he got outplayed by a much much better player than him.

  • @gggfx4144
    @gggfx4144 Před 4 lety +6

    That "mm" he makes and gets slower and deeper each time says it all hehe. Very well played though and great sportsmanship; shows he's truly a lover an analyst of the game to be above his emotions that way

  • @pauldesjardins2912
    @pauldesjardins2912 Před 4 lety +3

    one of my favorite videos on the internet

  • @ss8140
    @ss8140 Před 3 měsíci +3

    "This is a line I've never studied"
    "Looks so strange"
    "I already dislike my position"
    "What's going on there, blunder already? Yeah"
    "Missed that one too"
    "I Shouldn't be playing chess"

  • @zanmatoshin877
    @zanmatoshin877 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Some crazy tempo on magnus moves

  • @jemstar33
    @jemstar33 Před 4 lety +14

    I just pictured Carlsen laughing as he was playing him lol

  • @vahangood5999
    @vahangood5999 Před 4 lety +42

    Good to see Chess is becoming more and more popular over time. Magnus is a great champion and a good ambassador of the game. 👌👌👌

  • @celestrio
    @celestrio Před 4 lety +18

    Those moments when Jan expected Magnus to eat queen but doesn't happen.
    Jan: O_O' *whaaaaa*

  • @pisinoearschess1414
    @pisinoearschess1414 Před 8 měsíci +1

    magnus becomes chess itself

  • @Jemapelbulgarel
    @Jemapelbulgarel Před 2 lety +5

    4:01 When you realize "this can't be an IM"

  • @quantumjoss
    @quantumjoss Před 3 lety +9

    I’m glad he gets to feel how I do when I play chess online

  • @emilcioran8873
    @emilcioran8873 Před 3 lety +34

    3:50 I felt so sorry for him here.

  • @The5trongmonkey
    @The5trongmonkey Před 8 měsíci +1

    this vid + the comments here make this my fav chess moment of all time