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How To Align Your Psytrance KICK & BASS!

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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • Welcome back! Today we are going to continue on my previous video about making a clean and punchy Psytrance Bass and talk about alignment and clean-up to make your Kick/Bass relationship as clear, crisp and uniform as possible!
    ▼ Video Chapters ▼
    00:00​​ Intro
    00:57​​ Phase alignment
    04:49​ Making your bass tighter
    07:59​​ Removing the sub
    12:06​​ Thanks For Watching!
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Komentáře • 89

  • @MiddleD
    @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +5

    Let me know in the comment section what you would like to see next on my channel, I'm always open to new suggestions! 😉

    • @ELCHimoiX1
      @ELCHimoiX1 Před 3 lety +1

      Which video was the last one? You shuld leave the link in the description so we can check the 1st one.

    • @justynwclark
      @justynwclark Před 3 lety +2

      When do we get the kick & bass layering video? I'm so excited for it.

    • @psynstein646
      @psynstein646 Před rokem

      teach me the neelix saw base :D ♥

    • @enoch13th85
      @enoch13th85 Před rokem

      Your tutorials were the best. I'm working on a track that I used your bass tutorial for and it's turning out really well. I hope you're doing well!

    • @HolyRhythms
      @HolyRhythms Před 7 měsíci

      we really need that
      @@justynwclark

  • @imaginarycolleagues1243
    @imaginarycolleagues1243 Před 2 lety +16

    Cool tutorials, thanks a lot for that👍
    Just a recommendation for future videos (which I hope are going to come😀): When showing the difference between settings or turning plugins on and off, just don't pause the playback and say "Now, with this on/off you can hear...." and then start the playback again. Just let the playback run while switching whatever setting you want to show, so anyone can immediately hear the difference. When you are pausing the playback and speaking, there is no possibility to hear subtle differences, because you just forget what it sounded like before.

  • @snookofficial7211
    @snookofficial7211 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for running through your process! Just a suggestion, when doing A/B comparisons, it's easier to hear the difference if you don't interrupt it with your talking

  • @hyurisalvador3914
    @hyurisalvador3914 Před 2 lety +2

    I always love the coffee drinking in the intro. 😂😅
    Anyway nice tutorial. 😎👍🔥

  • @carptackula7536
    @carptackula7536 Před rokem

    How can you talk about Phase without an Oscilloscope?
    -you edited the phase with voxengo, but then isolated the first 1/16th bass note and added EQ (which alters the phase again).
    Without an oscilloscope, you miss out on seeing what you have done to the phase relationship between this and the kick!
    -seems like if you aren't going to use an oscilloscope, a better way (without eq) to treat the bass would be at the synth level: 2 synth patches, one with the fundamental and one without. You then don't need to eq cut, or worry about the effect of eq on phase for that no fundamental note.
    Sorry for all the questions, but it just doesn't make sense, but you're tutorials are GREAT!

  • @LucianoDias-gc3oo
    @LucianoDias-gc3oo Před 2 měsíci

    Crucial information and knowledge for psy trance musicians

  • @jorgedelarco8851
    @jorgedelarco8851 Před 2 lety +1

    This channel is pure gold

  • @michaelsibayan2307
    @michaelsibayan2307 Před 2 lety +2

    Your videos so far has been the best and clearest work through of making clean basslines

  • @origenic5237
    @origenic5237 Před 2 lety +3

    Another way to lower the sub on that first bass note is to use waves C6 multiband side chain compressor, use the kick as the side chain signal and set the low band to turn down the sub and bypass all the other bands with a release time of around 1/8 so that it comes back up after the first bass note, I found it gives a smoother release/transition than cutting the audio up.

  • @alexanderzaitsev9003
    @alexanderzaitsev9003 Před 3 lety +1

    dont stop, friend. doing videos. its very no bad

  • @user-vi4yx3qe4s
    @user-vi4yx3qe4s Před 11 měsíci +1

    very useful :D better A&B without any speech in middle , mr middle :P thanks for tips

  • @robodopsnei
    @robodopsnei Před rokem

    Thanks very much! I’ve been looking for a breakdown of this very thing! Very well explained ;) Cheers!!

  • @Martin-vj7zx
    @Martin-vj7zx Před rokem

    That diffrence wow 😮😮😵

  • @rolandpirker2697
    @rolandpirker2697 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks so much!

  • @garlandjamieson
    @garlandjamieson Před rokem +1

    amazing, aweswome songs, and
    super tutorial
    supreme

  • @HolyRhythms
    @HolyRhythms Před 7 měsíci

    we really need the layering bass video

  • @enzococuzza4982
    @enzococuzza4982 Před rokem

    brotheer, if you use the shaperbox to make the sidechain, you can cut the low end of the first bass without having to duplicate the chanel

  • @PARTY24-7
    @PARTY24-7 Před rokem +1

    really helpful ......please upload more tutorials on psytrance.......like a vini vici & whitenoise style.
    Peace.

  • @thestever
    @thestever Před 2 lety +3

    This is a great tutorial, but I have one question. Would EQing out the sub freqs from the overlapping part of the bass potentially screw up the phase again?

  • @darbomusic
    @darbomusic Před 3 lety +1

    I love your channel 💞

  • @TranceAlpine
    @TranceAlpine Před 3 lety +1

    Highclass...study in details.greetz

  • @rodolfotolke
    @rodolfotolke Před 3 lety +1

    Aulinha muito boa! No aguardo já da próxima! :D

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +1

      Obrigado Rodolfo! 🙏🏻

  • @marceloribeirosimoes8959
    @marceloribeirosimoes8959 Před 2 lety +1

    1 kick for each beat.
    1 same note for the entire beat tempo.
    1 single same note over every kick
    I must thank you for the video, of course. It's cool.
    But if the bass has note changes?
    And if the kick were not that boring same never-ending pile-driver pattern???
    Hmmmmmmmmm...
    The ducking solution is great.
    Nice and clean.
    Thank you very much.

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 2 lety

      I'm showing it on a simple rolling bass pattern because it's an easier way to teach the basics to producers that are still learning it. Once you have the desired timbre, you can change the notes and the groove as much as you want 😉

  • @foxival5150
    @foxival5150 Před 3 lety +2

    Cool Tutorial 👍

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you Elliott! 🙏🏻

  • @idanmashta
    @idanmashta Před rokem

    Can you please make a tutorial about goa bass and kick?

  • @psynstein646
    @psynstein646 Před rokem

    moooore tutirials (x xD

  • @crazymr1179
    @crazymr1179 Před rokem

    This video is very useful, thank you! Can i use the same method? If I were to mix a Melbourne kick and bass in the future, assuming the bass didn't overlap the kick, how would I check for phase?

  • @someoneelsefromthesameplan4007

    Thanks for video! But can you show it with stock logic pro x plugin? Step fx or lfo?

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe one day in the future! 🙌🏻

  • @MOSMASTERING
    @MOSMASTERING Před rokem

    Hey, I know that this video is +1 year old no, but I was hoing somebody could help me with a question I have.
    So, I've been getting great results for a long time (been making music for +>15 years) but always looking to add a tiny few extra % percent to the sound wherever possible.
    In Psytrance, this obsessive (yet necessary) attention to detail is because Kick and bass is the foundation of the entire track! So I'm assuming that somebody that has gone through the same processing chain has some answers..
    Regarding LFO tool. It looks really simple. It uts, ducks or filters the audio based on time divisions. (18th/ 1/4 note etc.) but my question is - is the timer running free or is it based on audio triggering the envelope. Because if you make a track and for some reason your song goes out of allignment with the overall DAW sub divisions, then LFO tool will start cutting into the middle of sounds that are already playing, rather than an envelope designed to smooth out the end of the quarter note.
    Is there any way to change LFOTool into trigger mode, rather than a free running BPM counter?

  • @jetekkalsitek6346
    @jetekkalsitek6346 Před rokem

    Good tuto, why did you stop them ? (I m french, sorry if my english is not correct)

  • @bionikpulse
    @bionikpulse Před rokem

    Can we get a filtering kick and bass tutorial?

  • @ravewell
    @ravewell Před 2 lety

    Nice one🔥🔥🔥👍🏼

  • @Beyond_The_Fade555
    @Beyond_The_Fade555 Před 10 měsíci

    How to know how much rotation is needed in pca?

  • @abyssent
    @abyssent Před 2 lety

    can i do it w stock pluggings ? i dont got nothing to change the phase besides the logic pros default gain

  • @psylover0
    @psylover0 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, can you explain what is the difference between linear phase eq and eq and when should one use linear phase eq? Secondly can you explain what can we do with fab Saturn on bass?

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you! A normal eq does can cause phase shifts when manipulated, specially with sharp curves, a linear phase eq maintains phase coherence on the signal regardless of your settings, however it does introduce more latency as it requires a higher amount cpu calculations. So if you want to make big changes (steep low cut curves etc) and maintain phase coherence, which can be important on high transient sounds such as the kick and bass, linear phase eq can be very useful, but use it sparingly and only when necessary because it takes up a massive amount of cpu

    • @lukhmanthufile
      @lukhmanthufile Před 3 lety

      @@MiddleD what if, after using linear phase eq, I bounce the track and shift it a few ms early so that the delay is compensated?

  • @ninrocks1
    @ninrocks1 Před 3 lety +1

    Very useful tutorial, just saw some waveforms of professional tracks. I saw there's both fade in and out on the basslines. I will try this out with lfo tool. Will att the basslines get this fade out with lfo tool? Would the voxengo plugin be the same thing as dragging the audio back or forth a few ms? Thank you for a great tutorial 😀🙏.

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Conny, thank you! Regarding the fadesm you should not fade in on the attack of the bassline, this will affect its transient and your bass will have a weak attack, but you should always fade out the end of your bass notes. Also, for the voxengo, switching the phase is not the same thing as changing the timing of your note, the PHA-979 also as a "Delay" knob that you can use to adjust that.

  • @BenbekMusic
    @BenbekMusic Před 3 lety +1

    Esse conhece demais 👽🔥🔥

  • @DeltaSpecies
    @DeltaSpecies Před 3 lety +1

    Muito bom manoo!!!

  • @fredericericsson1943
    @fredericericsson1943 Před rokem

    Why did u stop making these bad ass tutorials?

  • @technosafelife
    @technosafelife Před 2 lety +1

    What about the layering Video? 😁

  • @lebontv6921
    @lebontv6921 Před 2 lety +1

    So is the voxengo vst now not doing anything if you have removed the clashing with the lfo tools.

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 2 lety +1

      The Voxengo PHA-979 is changing the phase on the bass, which means that it's relationship with the kick will change regardless of what I do in LFO tool 😉

    • @lebontv6921
      @lebontv6921 Před 2 lety

      @@MiddleD cool I was just wondering as if your sidechaining then presumably you remove the need to adjust the phase. Unless it sound like you are not completely sidchaining away all phase crossover with kick and bass which sounds like what you are saying.

  • @kuba017
    @kuba017 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey! I never saw this model of Adam's monitors... what model is it?

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 2 lety

      They are Adam F7, unfortunately it's been discontinued

  • @funkerfogt1869
    @funkerfogt1869 Před 3 lety +1

    why u dont use oscilloscope to control phase?

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +3

      I do! But for this video, which introduces the subject to people that are not necessarily used to it, I decided to start simple with the concept so I can go deeper with oscilloscopes in the next videos.

    • @funkerfogt1869
      @funkerfogt1869 Před 3 lety

      @@MiddleD Great! Thanks!

  • @BFHPET
    @BFHPET Před 4 měsíci

    8:25 where is this video about this

  • @ninrocks1
    @ninrocks1 Před 3 lety +1

    I just tried the Voxengo PHA - 979 on a bass in cubase, while having your setting and adjusting the phase it sounds that the bass doesn´t play in time.
    Is there some kind of latency in the plugin and how can i solve this?
    Kind regards Conny

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 3 lety +1

      Stop playback and hit play again, to be able to change phase and timing the pha-979 needs to process its internal buffer and sometimes it doesn’t do it at first, so you need to let it play a bit, then stop and play again.

    • @ninrocks1
      @ninrocks1 Před 3 lety

      @@MiddleD Thank you very much, i will try this and see what happens 😀🙏

  • @doortower3622
    @doortower3622 Před 2 lety +1

    wen next vid

  • @MrDobleagent
    @MrDobleagent Před 2 lety

    good ideas, nice technique, but what I dont like to convert bass in audio, is that is too many edits, and you always need to go back the MIDI instrument if you want to change something

    • @MiddleD
      @MiddleD  Před 2 lety

      Well, if you're still using a sampler (like I am), you're still working with MIDI 😉

  • @avgdeagling
    @avgdeagling Před 2 lety

    or... resampling the last 2 Kick Bars .. repitch it and cut out the first harmonic

  • @dennislacroix9962
    @dennislacroix9962 Před 2 měsíci

    But this works as long as the bass doesn't change the note

  • @gryndermusic
    @gryndermusic Před 3 lety +1

    ❤️

  • @douglasmotoso3835
    @douglasmotoso3835 Před 3 lety

    Free Download do Kick