Racial bias found in health care company algorithm

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  • čas přidán 31. 10. 2019
  • New York insurance regulators are opening an investigation into UnitedHealth Group over allegations it uses a racially biased algorithm. A new study says the software led to lower levels of care for black patients than white patients. Wall Street Journal reporter Melanie Evans joined CBSN AM to discuss how the algorithm works and the impact it has on patients.

Komentáře • 100

  • @TheMessiahOfPoo
    @TheMessiahOfPoo Před 3 lety +128

    Damn algorithm, deleting Eriks comment

  • @ice3753
    @ice3753 Před 3 lety +73

    Where's big Daddy salvias comment?

  • @luiscarvalho7899
    @luiscarvalho7899 Před 3 lety +27

    Where's big daddy salvia's comment, though?

  • @xx__xx1021
    @xx__xx1021 Před 3 lety +10

    did they delete papa's comment?

  • @skye.mp5
    @skye.mp5 Před 3 lety +18

    bounced on my boy's bernie 2024 to this

    • @abstraktdrey
      @abstraktdrey Před 3 lety

      God bless the United Salvia of America.
      God speed, son.

  • @primiorodriguez4935
    @primiorodriguez4935 Před 3 lety +11

    BIG MONEY SALVIA

  • @alexrobinson6481
    @alexrobinson6481 Před 3 lety +10

    Where is the BIG MONEY SALVIa

  • @NuggetMilitia1
    @NuggetMilitia1 Před 3 lety +6

    BIG MONEY SALVIA!!

  • @bingode1646
    @bingode1646 Před 3 lety +5

    Damn they're trying to make artificial intelligence algorithms racist too smh lol

  • @OldBloxycube
    @OldBloxycube Před 3 lety +6

    where's daddy?

  • @ScottKorin
    @ScottKorin Před 3 lety +15

    Daddy?

  • @mrkrunch4340
    @mrkrunch4340 Před 3 lety +12

    *_DADDY????_*

  • @intentionallyqueen.478
    @intentionallyqueen.478 Před 4 lety +20

    Stop dancing around the information and spill the beans.

    • @freda2758
      @freda2758 Před 4 lety +3

      LOL. She did take a minute to get to it, didn't she?

  • @limpnjen
    @limpnjen Před 4 lety +7

    They seem so uncomfortable talking about this.

  • @jlove8441
    @jlove8441 Před 4 lety +7

    Its Been Like this since the beginning of health Care & Hospitals... since segregation Nothing has changed.. they Just politely Do U Dirty..

  • @LMan-by6mb
    @LMan-by6mb Před 3 lety +1

    They even made the algorithm racist but we're not surprised are we?

  • @twinboyz2004
    @twinboyz2004 Před 4 lety +23

    It’s Been this way for yeeeeears! Cmon 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @MzGumby02
    @MzGumby02 Před 3 lety +5

    I've had doctors go off on me for having mental disabilities. Also haven't had an important surgery, because a doctor didn't like the fact that I'm disabled. It's crazy.

  • @shauncampbell969
    @shauncampbell969 Před 4 lety +1

    My transportation was cancelled by my insurance, now I don't go to the hospital. I have cancer and need to frequently go to my doctor's. It's too difficult to travel on public transportation. I'm on Medicaid and Health First.
    All the best Shaun of NYC

    • @monchtorres2338
      @monchtorres2338 Před 4 lety

      I hear u on that so that's why I try write the best I can . Wen I got fired and that same day they cancelled my insurance. For my PTSD and no the cost to get around is not cheap . But u put ur money in a insurance company and it take a few weeks to get it going and the day u leave are fired they stop that day . Ya they gave me options for medical coverage but if I didn't chose the one I did I have a higher deductible and pay more money for my meds. So the all have a catch to wat u can and can't do .

  • @KiernanMooney
    @KiernanMooney Před 2 lety

    ... i also came here looking for big money's comment

  • @stolswillicute4288
    @stolswillicute4288 Před 4 lety +7

    They really danced around the subject. girl I didn't learn anything

  • @jamesburton1624
    @jamesburton1624 Před 4 lety

    The danger of Termination..AI

  • @caroleparker5271
    @caroleparker5271 Před 4 lety +6

    This is new to these people they needed a computer to figure it out? Ask a black person its daily living for us !!

  • @williamsmith6303
    @williamsmith6303 Před 2 lety

    Insurance still be redlining

  • @jonallen652
    @jonallen652 Před 4 lety +3

    Medical insurance companies run a business after all, it's all about the bottom line. You can't blame them for taking advantage of the current system the same way you can't blame Amazon for not paying taxes. The rules need to change, and until they do of course companies are going to do everything they can to make/keep more money.

  • @lennieklondike7623
    @lennieklondike7623 Před 3 lety

    Yup.

  • @BiGG_X
    @BiGG_X Před 2 lety +1

    I think this is more about money, and we all know this prejudice can also effect how much money someone makes. I can see race and sex possibly being an issue if your dealing with racists and sexists though. My Mother and Father are both white but we have never had a lot of money or great insurance. My Father died from cancer almost 10 years ago, and even though he saw doctors and was tested on a regular basis, they didnt catch it until he was 4th stage and already dying from it. He lived for a week after his last visit to the hospital. My Mother just died from it 2 months ago and the exact same thing happened. She visited on a regular basis and also took a lot of tests, but it wasnt caught until it was too late. She died even sooner than my Father did after her last visit to the hospital. Im left with the thought the hospital knew it would cost more than they would get back and they ignored it until it couldnt be ignored no longer. You can turn this into sex and race all you want but money is the only language they speak. Inequality isnt always race and sex... it is also money. I know racism is a problem and sexism as well, but there is more to it than these 2 things. BUT, racism and sexism can effect how much you make or getting promotions which will increase the problems. I dont debate that, I know its a real problem. DONT IGNORE the obvious when it comes to money... especially in a capitalist country run by corporate donations. MONEY doesnt care what sex/race you are.

    • @saturncrush
      @saturncrush Před 11 měsíci +1

      Money is directly motivation behind racism and/or the perpetuation of racism. Money also is the motivation behind classism which unfortunately what your family experience. These concepts work together not separate.

    • @BiGG_X
      @BiGG_X Před 11 měsíci

      @@saturncrush Money isnt racist. It doesnt care about color, sex, or anything else. People who love money will take it from anybody just to have it. The problem is the people who decide how they want to distribute it. Its not the money, and it still comes down to rotten people.

  • @nadyaherself
    @nadyaherself Před 2 lety

    Omg

  • @jamesburton1624
    @jamesburton1624 Před 4 lety +1

    What kind of person programmed it? Wyt. Racism is so ingrained we don't believe unless you have received it. Kapish

    • @sunkcostfallacy2738
      @sunkcostfallacy2738 Před 3 lety

      It probably wasn't an individual who consciously wanted to be racist. It was probably a team of predominantly white people who unwittingly forgot to take into account other races because of subconscious bias. It was human bias and error. I'm just glad it was caught. Hopefully, it can be recalibrated to accommodate everyone, regardless of race. And they should probably hire a more diverse team in the future to keep this from happening again.

  • @su-enaahleebeautifulcontra3617

    No surprise.

  • @digiprez77
    @digiprez77 Před 4 lety +2

    Health insurance is unethical.

  • @alancold1427
    @alancold1427 Před 5 měsíci

    Wyt lady too scared to really talk about the issue head on

  • @Tbone1492
    @Tbone1492 Před 4 lety +1

    When you take 60% & give Free Healthcare. This isn't race this is Money. Ofcourse Medicaid won't provide same care.🤦‍♂️

    • @Sweetenv77
      @Sweetenv77 Před 4 lety +1

      Well it helps their race baiting propaganda

    • @shadowwolfkano
      @shadowwolfkano Před 4 lety +7

      @@Sweetenv77 You mean it hurts your white privilege, troll.

  • @freda2758
    @freda2758 Před 4 lety +5

    It's time to remove biases from these systems (e.g., gender, sex, age), in order to produce equal results. These database companies need to hire more diversity.

    • @H-Bomb_DaDonDaDa
      @H-Bomb_DaDonDaDa Před 4 lety +2

      Health studies may vary based on physical factors, including: height, weight, age, gender (sex, btw), body fat, heart condition, lifestyle, smoking/non smoking, and etc. But, skin complexion, biased behavioral and/or cultural conditions should not be a factor of insurance costs or health care treatment.

  • @monchtorres2338
    @monchtorres2338 Před 4 lety

    Well I'm not looking at race I'm looking at how much money it's costing . I make so much and the cost of living gas cause I commute daily. I suffer PTSD and every time I ask for help I'm always told to go to the emergency 😔. I don't need that I need affordable health insurance I pay rent car payment insuranc gass food give my daughter's mom money for her and still buy her things that my daughter needs after I spend 🤔300 a month on gas cause of the commute. With out med for PTSD 700 and I still therapy .so what about use I'm struggling to maytain with out my meds and just recovering from two pulled

  • @WITNESSREVENGE
    @WITNESSREVENGE Před 4 lety

    ......

  • @jennjenn9628
    @jennjenn9628 Před 4 lety +4

    This lady pauses too much

  • @jamolcarmicle839
    @jamolcarmicle839 Před 3 lety +1

    Tell the truth we know now .....

  • @suirc
    @suirc Před 4 lety +1

    Fake News For Fools

  • @Derail07
    @Derail07 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for the Race baiting

    • @Sweetenv77
      @Sweetenv77 Před 4 lety

      Exactly!

    • @shadowwolfkano
      @shadowwolfkano Před 4 lety +17

      Wow, facts are race baiting? 😂😂😂

    • @Sweetenv77
      @Sweetenv77 Před 4 lety +1

      @@shadowwolfkano white privilege again doesnt exist.... ur obviously brainwashed

    • @Free_Snooki
      @Free_Snooki Před 4 lety +8

      Is it race baiting b/c it's about maltreatment of minorities?

    • @monchtorres2338
      @monchtorres2338 Před 4 lety

      That's wat that whole topic was about getting people to talk about it be angry and I see a lot of smart people on this topics . Stop fighting with violence and those of education help get the people out and see we r no longer minority. But we have people up there who forget were they come and çame from I. Not forgetting what and were I been and came from .

  • @SkragorSkumdreg
    @SkragorSkumdreg Před 4 lety +3

    Algorithms don't care about your feelings. The so-called "anti-racists" will absolutely HATE it when AI takes over.

    • @shadowwolfkano
      @shadowwolfkano Před 4 lety +21

      "Anti-racist" ? Really? Thank you for exposing yourself, KKKlown.

    • @nerftarkus7158
      @nerftarkus7158 Před 3 lety +15

      >so called "anti-racists"
      lmfao what

    • @richpryor9650
      @richpryor9650 Před 3 lety +2

      So what are you're thoughts on BLM and the Proud Boys?

    • @sunkcostfallacy2738
      @sunkcostfallacy2738 Před 3 lety +1

      The way AI works is you put information into it for it to learn. So if you only put an 18 percent sample size of black people into it, and the rest are white, the AI will overrepresent white people because that's the data it's working with. It's not that the AI is racist, it just didn't have a large enough sample size of black people to properly account for them. It's because of human bias, not the AI.

  • @soopwcf
    @soopwcf Před 4 lety +5

    AI doesn't have SJW propaganda injected, lol.

    • @sunkcostfallacy2738
      @sunkcostfallacy2738 Před 3 lety +6

      The way AI works is you put information into it for it to learn. So if you only put an 18 percent sample size of black people into it, and the rest are white, the AI will overrepresent white people because that's the data it's working with. It's not that the AI is racist, it just didn't have a large enough sample size of black people to properly account for them. It's because of human bias, not the AI. AI doesn't have a will. It's just a set of algorithms humans have to program, and sometimes, human bias comes into play. If the AI isn't taking into account other races, then it needs to be recalibrated to do so. You don't have to be an SJW woke scold to see a problem here. You can't have an AI underrepresenting a certain group of people. That's not SJW, that's just basic human decency.

  • @robert7984
    @robert7984 Před 4 lety +2

    What a lie.