Korg KAOSS REPLAY // Pros & cons vs the competition (SP404 MK2, MPC, Blackbox) // Tutorial

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  • čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
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    1:30 Overview
    2:40 Pad, banks
    4:55 Faders, groups
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    7:45 I/O
    8:50 Monitor
    9:40 SD import
    12:20 Pad edit
    14:25 Time-stretch
    16:30 Quantize
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    18:15 KAOSS FX
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    21:50 Voice fx
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Komentáře • 692

  • @loopop
    @loopop  Před 10 dny +2

    Hey! FYI Korg just released a major firmware update addressing the sync issue I mention in the video, as well as adding a ton of effects and other features - check out their site for more details

    • @vertigev
      @vertigev Před 4 dny

      Does that mean loop recording will start on the one like the RC-505? If yes, that makes this much more attractive for me. Last thing we need is overdub!

  • @elarielo
    @elarielo Před 6 měsíci +470

    My brain automatically went "at first glance, this groovebox is ticking all the boxes"

    • @gelatinous6915
      @gelatinous6915 Před 6 měsíci +56

      At the first glance, the Kaoss is ticking all the "Pioneer DJ Toraiz contraption from 2011" boxes.

    • @zoned7609
      @zoned7609 Před 6 měsíci +32

      IM RUNNING STRAIGHT TO FLORIAN

    • @spectralknights2
      @spectralknights2 Před 6 měsíci +12

      Getting annoyed with that same comment man

    • @MrXamanX
      @MrXamanX Před 6 měsíci +22

      @@spectralknights2 cry about it

    • @CaidicusProductions
      @CaidicusProductions Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@spectralknights2 At the first glance, this comment is ticking all the "I don't like it when people don't follow the rules I made up in my own head" boxes.

  • @letssamplethis7641
    @letssamplethis7641 Před 6 měsíci +116

    For $1000 I would have expected. Korg to combine the Kaossilator Pro with The KP3 and the Kaoss Quad’s ability to layer in 4 effects, plus sequencer. For 1K, that makes sense. For the typical $400-$450 retail this is all I would expect from the Kaoss Replay. I have collected every Kaoss Pad since KP2. It’s been years since we have seen a proper Kaoss Pad and while this looks pretty damn cool, the entry price is literally insane. Reminds me of the Korg Micro Sampler debacle when it was originally $600 - $800 and then Korg saw “reality” called the “market” and that price dropped down to a nice $300.

    • @MrTrubadurable
      @MrTrubadurable Před 6 měsíci +19

      $1000😂

    • @Domn879
      @Domn879 Před 6 měsíci +13

      I agree. I expected this to be a 1/3 of the price. You can get a Force for that which dwarfs this feature wise.

    • @brmbkl
      @brmbkl Před 6 měsíci +3

      "For $1000 ...Korg to combine the Kaossilator Pro with The KP3 and the Kaoss Quad" and the faderboard.
      (if rodec and sherman can...)
      i went "finally!" ....then i saw the price

    • @SvenFx-22
      @SvenFx-22 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Omg really $1000 😮 yeah…no. Sorry korg

    • @effext1
      @effext1 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Definitely doesn’t fit into what I think the Kaos Pads were. They were always geared towards DJs and Dawless performers. They added to your setup. This seems more stand alone. Should have multiple inputs and outputs. Where you can run a couple pieces of gear through it or connect send/returns in a mixer. Have separate effects for each input along with global effects. Use the pads more like the Pioneer DJS-1000 (DJ Sampler) to live loop or load prepared loops. DJ software covers this now a days but for dawlless performers it would great for transitions, etc.

  • @Wagoo
    @Wagoo Před 6 měsíci +82

    It boggles the mind both Yamaha and Korg have unleashed MicroUSB sporting products in late 2023
    Thanks for the video 👍

    • @LukezyM
      @LukezyM Před 6 měsíci +17

      It’s even more weird that it has usb-c for charging, but only micro usb for data..

    • @cresshead
      @cresshead Před 6 měsíci +8

      have you looked at the price yet?

    • @CaidicusProductions
      @CaidicusProductions Před 6 měsíci +14

      Considering even $5 Chinese cheapo goods have USB-C now, the use of Micro USB screams "We're trying to get rid of old stock in current goods instead of taking a loss recycling them."

    • @hoagy_ytfc
      @hoagy_ytfc Před 6 měsíci

      @@CaidicusProductions These $5 products, do they USB-C for data?

    • @CaidicusProductions
      @CaidicusProductions Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@hoagy_ytfc Not sure, I more so mean that the connector has become cheap enough that it should be used exclusively over micro usb.

  • @_Scyber
    @_Scyber Před 6 měsíci +48

    This is an amazing device but can't justify the price when the MPC One+ is $6-700 - half of what this is & can do much more.

    • @MrMissingReel
      @MrMissingReel Před 6 měsíci +18

      In my eyes this a 499€/$ device....but I'll rather stick to my MPCs anyway.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci +1

      This versus DJS-1000 and Toraiz SP-16, not MPCs

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv Před 5 měsíci +1

      MPC crushes this thing, at a fraction of cost.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@sub-jec-tiv According to specs, it can do up 100 minutes of regular recording. 100 minutes of 48kHz 16-bit audio is probably around 1.1GB. I'm guessing that it may not have more RAM than an MPC One/Live, too, aside from far less functionality.
      DJs really overpay for their gear, wow.

  • @drum-computer
    @drum-computer Před 6 měsíci +44

    This thing is 1100 euros! Roland 404mk2 is 450 and akai live which is a whole daw in a box is 800. I don’t get it

    • @GirlfightClub
      @GirlfightClub Před 6 měsíci +10

      “ItS goT RCA tHouGH” 😂

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci

      Kaoss Replay vs. DJS-1000, take your pick

    • @unmothered333
      @unmothered333 Před 5 měsíci +2

      The Akai Live is $1300.
      The Akai Pro is $700

    • @vicopujia
      @vicopujia Před 5 měsíci +6

      The teenage big calculator it's 350....

    • @vicopujia
      @vicopujia Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@GirlfightClubThat's overkill, they don't need to flex like that....

  • @alexkidd4144
    @alexkidd4144 Před 6 měsíci +111

    Feels like the product of ten different people in ten different rooms writing what they want on a list then someone else smashing it all together

    • @mikenoface
      @mikenoface Před 6 měsíci +13

      Imagine if Korg actually listened to what their customers wanted instead of serving up regurgitated effect algorithms from their iPhone apps?

    • @sp-404hypnodiqsoundjunkie8
      @sp-404hypnodiqsoundjunkie8 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You just described Death Row during their Chronic, Doggystyle and All Eyez On Me peak💯

    • @atetraxx
      @atetraxx Před 6 měsíci

      Sounds lit! Yes please

    • @0e0
      @0e0 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Homer's car

    • @discophone_6214
      @discophone_6214 Před 6 měsíci

      Exactly!

  • @aptudo
    @aptudo Před 6 měsíci +24

    Great review for prospective buyers. I'm glad you warned multiple times that there's no guarantee that Korg will make firmware improvements. They often don't. To me, the most concerning oversight is not being able to zoom in on the waveform when editing samples or setting cue points. It's baffling.

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv Před 5 měsíci +2

      Especially for $1000. Just get an MPC already.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@sub-jec-tiv or a Roland sp 404 mk 2

    • @hardtakeoff
      @hardtakeoff Před 5 měsíci

      Uh, Don't. they suck. i own one
      @@sub-jec-tiv

  • @darkambience
    @darkambience Před 6 měsíci +18

    1100 euros? Love Korg and got lots of their gear but they have lost their minds on pricing recently with the Minilogue Bass for 800 and the Raspberry Pi powered MKII stuff they launched for 900.
    Soon as I saw the thumbnail I clicked because I love these sorts of things but for that price I´d rather get a second SP-404 MK2, or even a third, or pair one with an ipad. So many other options for less money. I really thought with the way the economy is at the moment Korg would be smart enough to focus on some new Volcas at a good price point to keep up with Rolands compact range (the S1 is the bargain of the century), a proper keyboard sampler perhaps? Or throwing an M1/Microkorg/Triton or something into a mini box.
    Plus being Korg you can bet they will drop updates like a hot stone after 12 months and all of their stuff has bugs and issues. I actually bought and sold my SP-404 MK2 and then bought another because Roland added the features I needed in the 3.0 update a couple of years after launch. Every time I want to connect something Korg to my computer I have to jump through several hoops to get it to work.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, Raspberry Pi synths with more processing power than 99.9999% of digital hardware synths (non-workstation) out there. I'm assuming that the Waldorf Quantum and Iridium are the exceptions.

  • @chadpescod-realtor3308
    @chadpescod-realtor3308 Před 5 měsíci +17

    There has so be a damn good reason for people to choose this over an MPC or 404. I didn't see one unfortunately. Excellent video as usual. This will likely go over like the Beat Thang did.

    • @gaarakabuto1
      @gaarakabuto1 Před měsícem

      Hold up!!! The beat thung was actually unusable. This one will see some use from some hardcore fx users for live performances. This product is apar with toraiz stuff, but not beat thang.

  • @index7787
    @index7787 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Love this groove of yours, glad to see it back and alive on other gear

  • @gunark
    @gunark Před 6 měsíci +64

    I’m baffled as to why Korg don’t have their open ‘Logue standard in more of their gear. Imagine this with the ability to load new FX from people like Sinevibes, or weird stuff people make for free. Why do you squander that, Korg?

    • @straighttalk2069
      @straighttalk2069 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The tech support required for all the novices bricking their products, would be immense and damaging.

    • @gunark
      @gunark Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@straighttalk2069 considering they already can on the Minilogue XD, Prologue, NTS1, etc.. I can't see that being an issue.

  • @whitedragondojo
    @whitedragondojo Před měsícem +1

    Sir you are the top reviewer of technical synth capabilities with in-time commentary over live play demos. Semper fi :hat1:

  • @letssamplethis7641
    @letssamplethis7641 Před 6 měsíci +16

    Imagine if Korg poured all the features of the Electribe 2 Sampler (E2S, E2Sampler) into this, including scales (note filtering), jump step, ton of synth oscillators, Arppregatiors, sequencer, phrase sampling, transpose. Then allow one to play 4 effects at the same time like in the quad (yes, I love the Kaoss quad).
    But I have a feeling Korg is going to make the same mistake they made with the Electribe 2 (E2).
    The Electribe 2 was originally a complete synth and sampling system but was nerfed for different uses. The E2 was just a synth and only synth features worked on it. The E2Sampler was a sample player that allowed you to play a single one shot all across the keys in the note and scale you chose and some fun edgy oscillators switched on. But all other oscillators and special filters were switched off. The E2 came out first and a year later the E2Sampler. It wasnt until the Sampler’s release when savy hackers discovered that they could change out the synth firmware to the sampler one on their E2. This angered Korg.
    A couple years ago someone did a new Firmware hack (Hacktribe) that unlocked EVERYTHING in the E2 which uncovered more oscillators, the sampler, more effects and a few experimental things Korg was toying with. Basically one no longer needs to switch from one firmware to the next. It’s all there.
    I bring up this history because the Kaoss Replay looks like it will have a brother (or sister) in the same box and configuration but be called a new Kaossilator Pro. If my prediction is correct, then my guess is that it will be the exact same hardware and chip set but with the sampler turned off and the synth turned on. A move that will invite a whole new generation of the Electribe 2 fiasco.

    • @templeofg
      @templeofg Před 6 měsíci +1

      riiight. untouchable.

    • @SimpleTrax
      @SimpleTrax Před 5 měsíci

      I never understood what Korg was trying to do with E2. Electribe 2 felt very hands on, but its firmware felt just uncomplete, forcing me to look for unconventional turnaround solutions to simple problems. Its step edit mode was pain to use, beat chopping was taking up all the instruments basically -- I just could not understand what they were thinking... good I got mine used, wasn't worth the price new. I liked it, but sold it because the problems were too annoying.

    • @vicopujia
      @vicopujia Před 5 měsíci +1

      Let the hackers do their thing

  • @Marco-ek8wu
    @Marco-ek8wu Před 6 měsíci +11

    When I first saw this I thought wow a mini MPC in the Roland SP404 style. Then after watching the video I realised it wasn’t 🥲
    Quite expensive too.

  • @e-conrecords4665
    @e-conrecords4665 Před 6 měsíci +14

    They need to add chromatic playback of samples. It’s 2023 & should be a given.

  • @CaidicusProductions
    @CaidicusProductions Před 6 měsíci +8

    This was an excellent watch. Man, I feel like Korg made some baffling decisions in regards to some of its firmware limitations.
    Here's hoping they remedy some of these limitations in further firmware updates.
    Thanks for an excellent presentation, Loopop.

  • @scottfarrell1906
    @scottfarrell1906 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I will wait for the Behringer copy to come out

  • @elissitdesign
    @elissitdesign Před 6 měsíci +44

    It’s too close to my AKAI Force. Be cooler if it had multi in/outs and focused more on just fx processing. Where you could place it between multiple signals for live fx fckry.

    • @OnceSolem
      @OnceSolem Před 6 měsíci +3

      This !! If someone could make the love child of my octatrack and force and make it more focused with the multiple signals i'd be very happy indeed.

    • @user82938
      @user82938 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@OnceSolem I hear you. My OT is so good for doing things quickly and the Force is so good at building deeper projects with more FX and channels.

  • @M1k1haus
    @M1k1haus Před 6 měsíci +8

    I started making music on a Kaosspad pro. I would have been drooling over this back in the day.

  • @mikenoface
    @mikenoface Před 6 měsíci +32

    Audio out over mini usb.. or RCA. Great. Great job, Korg. That time stretch algorithm sounds like when I used Cakewalk as my main DAW in 1998.

    • @Wagoo
      @Wagoo Před 6 měsíci +4

      MiniUSB is actually robust and quite nice and durable.. I have MiniUSB ports/cables 15 years old that still work fine. Sadly this is MicroUSB..

    • @edjefferson9175
      @edjefferson9175 Před 6 měsíci +7

      RCA is standard on DJ mixers. Simple reliable connection easily adaptable. Need to send to front of house console? That’s what DI boxes are for.

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@@edjefferson9175After watching a few videos on this, I've realised that this box is definitely intended for DJs and live performers rather than producers, so yes perhaps RCA was deliberate. I don't think there's an excuse for Micro-USB though

    • @H4NDCRAFTED
      @H4NDCRAFTED Před 6 měsíci +2

      Micro usb is horrible , not durable at all in my experience

    • @edjefferson9175
      @edjefferson9175 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Universally agreed micro USB is garbage

  • @AKJ828
    @AKJ828 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yay finally some loopop in the morning! Boker Tov

  • @chuckvicious
    @chuckvicious Před 6 měsíci

    Enjoyed the performance at the end. Chill song!

  • @coolo73
    @coolo73 Před 6 měsíci +17

    Basically 1/5 of a SP-404 MK2 for double the price. Ouch… At least the screen looks nice. Korg went after Roland and missed big time.

    • @magnuseriksson8081
      @magnuseriksson8081 Před 6 měsíci +1

      This is the big screen we should have had on Roland MC101, 707, MV1 and SP404

    • @ghanezu
      @ghanezu Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@magnuseriksson8081mv1 with that screen ❤

    • @coolo73
      @coolo73 Před 6 měsíci

      @@magnuseriksson8081 Nah…the touchscreen is probably one of the major reasons the Replay is double the price of the 404 MK2 with a 1/5 of the features.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci

      "Korg went after Roland"
      *Korg went after Pioneer

    • @coolo73
      @coolo73 Před 6 měsíci

      Initially both Korg and Roland went after Pioneer, as the Pioneer FX boxes and mixers were very, very popular with DJ’s. (late 90’s-early 2000’s) However, when digital DJing became the standard, standalone FX boxes became unneeded and a rare site in DJ booths. The Roland SP gained popularity afterwards because folks started using them for mobile production and standalone live performance…uses they were not initially designed for. In classic Roland tradition, a whole sub-genre was formed out of the device’s quirks and limitations.

  • @w-h-y-
    @w-h-y- Před 6 měsíci +18

    The back of this thing looks like it was a diy project

    • @DeathTrapProductions
      @DeathTrapProductions Před 6 měsíci +2

      Old Sp vibes fr

    • @ChrispyDubstep
      @ChrispyDubstep Před 6 měsíci

      Don't know why they would need a usb c and micro usb port, also why RCA instead of 6.35mm

    • @lolwho
      @lolwho Před 6 měsíci

      @@ChrispyDubstepRCA because it's for DJs

    • @brianvanhaaren2713
      @brianvanhaaren2713 Před 6 měsíci +1

      OK, I guess RCA outs would not be that hard to get used to when you have enough cables lying around your music room somewhere... But USB C for power and micro USB for data? Hmm I won't get this thing then. Also the price is INSANE

  • @JRosevelt
    @JRosevelt Před 6 měsíci +2

    I would just like to acknowledge, in addition to your superb reviews, your theme song is excellent, I've enjoyed hearing it across the different videos. As far as the device, WOW. I grew up using the SP 202 in the late 90s as a kid. Things have come a long way, I'm kind of mind blown!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 měsíci

      Much appreciated!

  • @clayperdue1798
    @clayperdue1798 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Fond memories of my Kaoss Pad, many which involve me wishing it did a little bit more.

  • @visisydandthevoid
    @visisydandthevoid Před 6 měsíci +6

    Was very interested,… until seeing the price,.. the i/o,.. and learning about the lack of features. 🤕
    If only we could have an interface like this with features comparable to the octatrack. 😞

  • @psypher19111911
    @psypher19111911 Před 6 měsíci +106

    This seems very beta-prototype-like with so many annoying workflow issues (classic Korg and Roland) and with a price of almost 3 Kaoss Pad 3s then it seems like a no-go. Korg should really proove that they aren't going to let us hang with a lot of bugs and no updates this time!

    • @jeepee2
      @jeepee2 Před 6 měsíci +9

      They left the latest Electribes with lots of bugs so for me it's a big no.

    • @christopherboolean5074
      @christopherboolean5074 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Well, you could start your own brand

    • @DeathTrapProductions
      @DeathTrapProductions Před 6 měsíci +4

      You know that screen interface is going to go wonky in just a few years. The R&D was WEAK with this one.

    • @Eli_B3000
      @Eli_B3000 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You can buy two or three MPC Ones for the price with a touch FX pad

    • @mudi2000a
      @mudi2000a Před 6 měsíci

      Somehow the pricing of all new Korg gear (at least in Europe) seems a bit out of touch. Worse than Roland, and that is not so easy to achieve 😊

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq
    @MrOuija-rr8kq Před 6 měsíci +2

    Can’t wait for Korg to give it one update and drop it immediately.
    Another Korg device going on clearance in about a year.

  • @Divuar
    @Divuar Před 6 měsíci +1

    Omg I love this workflow. Something very different from my workflow but that's why it's so cool. Also seems pretty intuitive which is why m,any of us like Korg's products.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci

      DJS-1000 is probably the better choice over this.
      RMX-1000 if you don't need built-in sampling.

  • @alexandrosroussos
    @alexandrosroussos Před 6 měsíci +10

    Come-on Korg, micro-USB in 2023 ! Seriously ?

  • @milkweedreflections
    @milkweedreflections Před 6 měsíci +4

    Looks very cool. Price is completely insane.

  • @digital_Inside
    @digital_Inside Před 6 měsíci

    I love it. THX LOOPOP. Best rewievs on YT.

  • @syntheticjuice9279
    @syntheticjuice9279 Před 6 měsíci +4

    kp3 is a fun "master fx" unit to use with another synth or two for live performance. I can imagine this can be one too, possibly with a few new tricks with the sampling/resampling/playbavk and dj style faders for transitions, backing tracks, or just some fun 1 shots.. Hmm

  • @iamYork_
    @iamYork_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    NEW KAOS!!! Ive been itching for Korg to bring back some form of this for years... And i told myself i wouldn't GAS out again until 2024

  • @orbitfold
    @orbitfold Před 6 měsíci +8

    "Korg KAOSS Replay will cost 1099€ and will start shipping in January 2024." wtf, why would anyone get this instead of an SP-404 mk II which is 400 and in a much more mature state and has much better connectivity

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 Před 6 měsíci

      The only advantages I can see really are the big touch screen and a couple of assignable faders. SP-404 MK2 definitely seems like the better device overall

  • @popnfresh2928
    @popnfresh2928 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Omg, I would never go to sleep again messing with this dam thing😂😂😂😂…..brilliant 🙏🏾

  • @timdanyo898
    @timdanyo898 Před 6 měsíci +12

    This has some major growth potential. It has a lot of really interesting raw fundamentals geared around exploratory performance which I really like.

    • @Patriotic_Eagle1995
      @Patriotic_Eagle1995 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Korg products don't grow, they never even got MIDI working properly on the KP3 which was on sale over a decade.
      Assume this will never see a single update

    • @RemyGold
      @RemyGold Před 6 měsíci

      Thats what i said when i bought the Electribe sampler and they never supported it.

    • @timdanyo898
      @timdanyo898 Před 6 měsíci

      @@RemyGold that’s not been my experience with the Wavestate.

    • @timdanyo898
      @timdanyo898 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Patriotic_Eagle1995 this is a new era though.. look at the Wavestate and what they gave us with that system.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci

      Cross your fingers and pray to the Celestial Father, Korg sucks royally at updates. More than one or two very minor updates would be a miracle.
      No doubt Wavestate rocks, but that's a ROMpler, and ROMplers are Korg's specialty and what they tend to be best at. But they occasionally screw that up as well when they get too ambitious, like with the Kronos2.

  • @noisehead
    @noisehead Před 6 měsíci

    that is a device really nobody needed but amazing tutorial as always!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 měsíci +1

      ouch and thanks!

  • @Rightly_Divided
    @Rightly_Divided Před 6 měsíci

    I need it. That outro song so good!

  • @bembeleee
    @bembeleee Před 6 měsíci +16

    Would love to see a groovebox from Korg in similar form factor with a nice sequencer

    • @PorchBass
      @PorchBass Před 6 měsíci +1

      After the drumlogue I think they would hesitate

    • @lukeimontv7086
      @lukeimontv7086 Před 6 měsíci +5

      You mean like an Electribe?

    • @Mikepepp2
      @Mikepepp2 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@lukeimontv7086 An electribe esx-1 OS in this box would have been amazing . Ya know like what electribe users have been asking for for years

    • @synthetic_paul
      @synthetic_paul Před 6 měsíci

      @@Mikepepp2 Yup.

    • @bembeleee
      @bembeleee Před 6 měsíci

      @@PorchBass why do you think so ? It's not a goovebox

  • @bbailey0625
    @bbailey0625 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I aint gonna lie, for me, this machine makes you appreciate the sp 404 mk2 A WHOLE LOT MORE.
    This machine seems really clunky operational wise...they have a ton of catching up to do with sp404mkII

  • @heatherwhyte9527
    @heatherwhyte9527 Před 5 měsíci +3

    As a DJ and huge fan of Kaoss pads, I consider this to be the fantasy upgrade I've been dreaming about. Although it's expensive, if it took me a gig or two to pay for it and I could incorporate it into every set for the rest of my life, the fun I'd have alone would be worth it. And maybe I'll wait for it to go down in price a *smidge.* ;D
    Thank you @loopop for all of your knowledge and efforts that you put into these videos!

    • @javiermeza2557
      @javiermeza2557 Před měsícem

      hey Heather! I am looking for something to help me with transitions on my Deluge, would this help? What kind of effects could I add to help with transitions?

  • @BennJordan
    @BennJordan Před 6 měsíci +6

    Wow. I may need to start touring again. 🤯

  • @kgreggbruce1552
    @kgreggbruce1552 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I can’t wait to see Korg release this then never update it!!! Can’t wait!!!!

  • @lolwho
    @lolwho Před 6 měsíci +6

    My first thoughts: wow finally, a proper format, seemingly good controls, and likely a proper sampler?...... After watching this review: what a bummer, is sampling cursed, why are they all so underengineered?

  • @JoeHensson
    @JoeHensson Před 6 měsíci +1

    Was just reading some of the more disappointed comments here. I think the problem is that “sampler” is not really a good and descriptive category itself and everyone has their own expectations towards a proper “sampler”. What really defines the workflow is if the device tends more towards being a DAW …or a looper …or a groovebox …or a dj player …or just playing notes with the sampled clip via a keyboard - can also be considered a proper sampler.
    I like the approach that they took here making it look a bit like a DJ player with some FX (I don’t really need those FX though). BUT ability to sync a dj player of this kind (using auto BPM) to other MIDI synths, drum machines is an absolute untapped niche. Only computers currently offer this functionality.
    I am glad Korg took this route, I ordered mine.
    BTW: Korg, you forgot the sync jack that all your synths have, but OK midi sync has to do then.

  • @EdgyNumber1
    @EdgyNumber1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wake up Akai!
    Streaming data is a must!!
    Look at what Korg is doing!

  • @jp99301
    @jp99301 Před 6 měsíci +2

    At this price, seems like one of the competitors would be the Pioneer DJS-1000 and it's more studio focused Toraiz sibling

  • @blkrbbt
    @blkrbbt Před 6 měsíci +5

    THE TRIP STARTS HERE!
    Well, Ziv.. I have to say.. quite the META callback to the SP404 review, having it as the intro jam to a device that seems very similar to my beloved 404... Which your video helped me understand how to use it. I absolutly love your music, and hope for a new album at some time. OUTRO WAS A SMOOTH BANGER (love the phaser)!!!!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks very much!

  • @krissXfaded
    @krissXfaded Před měsícem

    Had no idea they had this one , I was looking at the older Kory kaoss. I really like the screen . I now have to research the pros and cons compared to the 404mk2

  • @SNOwyte
    @SNOwyte Před 6 měsíci

    This seems like perfect for the dawless chopped n screwed setup i was told to use an SP404 for or more commonly to use serato WHEN THE POINT WAS DAWLESS.

  • @730productionsllc2
    @730productionsllc2 Před 6 měsíci

    I’ll wait for some updates that you pointed out.

  • @willmyers8600
    @willmyers8600 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The price kinda starts to make sense when you realize that this is aimed pretty squarely at the high-end DJ market (and not really producers/musicians). It intentionally looks like something you'd squeeze between some Pioneer's CDJ/XDJs.

    • @kiickinballistics
      @kiickinballistics Před 6 měsíci +1

      For sure. It’s a much cheaper version of the DJS1000.

  • @Steve_643
    @Steve_643 Před 6 měsíci +6

    They should of put a pitch fader on it and gave it a turntable mode so you could chop tracks and use the live looping in a DJ set while using the effects on a send return. It kind of looks like the Native Instruments S4 they made for DJ’s to use stems

    • @UONeal
      @UONeal Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's the First thing I thought when i saw it... But I think you mean the D2... Which is the single deck version of the S8/S5

  • @joeglassy7821
    @joeglassy7821 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Excellent walk through video, as expected! I was amused that for the long list of 'Pros', each Pro was almost too politely countered with qualifiers that rendered the 'advantage' almost moot. The list of Cons was helpfully honest. Even acknowledging its target of Live Performance over (Production) and aside from the obvious (it's too expensive for what it offers) almost every compelling design feature on this new Kaoss seems to be nullified by deal-crushers (major under-use of otherwise good screen technology, too power hungry/no-batteries, Micro-USB in 2023?, alongside USB C??, etc). This device could have had a lot of potential and appeal, but as it is, could use a recall or do-over, esp at this price.

  • @BigBadWolf..............
    @BigBadWolf.............. Před 6 měsíci +1

    A portable high end multi effect with 6 effect slots that has a headphone output and runs on batteries would sell like crazy right now. This giant effects box style with a deep learning curve and lots of screen diving doesn’t offer much more than most iPad apps.

  • @8-BitHeart79
    @8-BitHeart79 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Korg, what would make this box complete imo is a granular sampler with full ADSR and lfo capabilities. And the ability to play the granular sampler from the touch screen similar to the I pad play position, etc... Before this thing hits production, dual USB C that mini has got to go. Making this class compliant is also a must, Korg.

  • @joelou
    @joelou Před 6 měsíci +2

    I got excited at first because I got a lot of use out of a KP3 many years ago. But this thing isn't doin much for me.
    I think it might be a good fit for a rapper that just wants to play their songs, 1 shots and have an easy to reach FX unit.
    If it had 2 inputs and more live loop functions I'd say it would be good for DJs

  • @deepsynth3495
    @deepsynth3495 Před 6 měsíci +3

    How can you build a product like this and not include something like envelopes. Or crossfade on samples. Pretty much makes it unusable

  • @GlitchComputer
    @GlitchComputer Před 6 měsíci

    OH MY GAWD 😍😍😍

  • @kirkegodfrey414
    @kirkegodfrey414 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Awaiting the new CURE album wiuth glee if the intro is anything to go by!

  • @ruffiankickloops
    @ruffiankickloops Před 6 měsíci +10

    This looks doooppee! but looks like Korg's version of a BOSS SP-303. lol makes you wonder; Why Korg ain't really going Electribe 3 instead of this. But heey why not lol

  • @bonsaibloom
    @bonsaibloom Před 6 měsíci +1

    Damn that opening jam kinda went hard 👀

  • @epigon1
    @epigon1 Před 6 měsíci

    Bomba!!

  • @ActionlessLoveless
    @ActionlessLoveless Před 6 měsíci +2

    MPC One and Kaosspad are my favorite devices, so this looks like a based thing, but damn it also cost like both MPC One and Kaosspad at the same time 🙄
    i wish they would just re-issue Kaoss Quad literally all the same but with modern-quality converters, and mb 2x higher pad resolution - it have outstanding usability but just that lo-fi-ness is not always desired

  • @user82938
    @user82938 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Honestly curious about who this will appeal to. I'd rather have the 404. The dedicated faders are nice, but it's not too much trouble to hook a small midi controller to the 404.

  • @steviezeven1067
    @steviezeven1067 Před 6 měsíci +7

    As an owner of a KP1 and 3 I always loved having them in a live setup over the years just for a little extra improv fun, I would consider upgrading to this if the effects and overall sound was substantially better. I would consider definitely for a backing track setup. This is probably more for those new to the line itself, which I get- everyone needs a little Kaoss in their life at one time or another. It looks nice, but I think the current design trends are not going to age well. I mean where do you go from modern brutalist minimalism? I'd have to actually play with it to see if it is worth a car payment TBH.

    • @willyum3108
      @willyum3108 Před 6 měsíci

      I've had 2 kaossolators and a kp3. I completely understand this comment.

    • @X22GJP
      @X22GJP Před 6 měsíci

      Just start with “I own X and always loved having them…”. As it stands, your sentence structure is as Kaotic as the product.

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture Před 6 měsíci +1

      To me the design feels like a TI-82 graphical calculator 😅

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@SyntheticFuture LOL YES! Reminded me of those digital watches with the calculator from back in the day 😂

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture Před 6 měsíci

      @@unbearifiedbear1885 oh yeah totally 😂

  • @SpyderBlackOfficial
    @SpyderBlackOfficial Před 6 měsíci +2

    LOVE YOUR REVIEWS

  • @jaxobophiuchi676
    @jaxobophiuchi676 Před 6 měsíci

    Holy shit
    I want to play!

  • @mrdayvidjon
    @mrdayvidjon Před měsícem

    I really like it’s instantaneous fluid motion well done video a little pricey for rca jacks I could do Intement shows w/ this and mpc my multi moog I’m sure the updates will be nice.kinda swisss army knife in the studio very cool.thanks Bo!

  • @_c_y_p_3
    @_c_y_p_3 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Glad to see a new evolution of my beloved Kaoss pad! This will no doubt be many peoples very favorite instrument. I do hope Korg will polish this off with the features Loopop suggested. The quantize and better label and name persistence, we appreciate the clean Korg UI but that basic data like FX types and details and basic data really makes it more comfortable. Those are the ones that stuck out to me. I do wonder if the quantize isnt hidden under a shortcut somewhere.

    • @VJFranzK
      @VJFranzK Před 6 měsíci +1

      There is a Quantize button at mid right, perhaps they could add this functionality to it via a firmware update? Which companies should always be encouraged to make!

  • @sorenrichenberg3313
    @sorenrichenberg3313 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Those USB ports are disrespectful

  • @manonthelivingroad
    @manonthelivingroad Před 6 měsíci +3

    Is a steep price for having a device that just does 1 fx at the time (and that was kind of the selling point) can't be powered by an external battery, uses two different usb ports (usb c AND micro usb) sampling is kind of so.
    And reminder that the mini kp series and kp series are discontinued
    I had hope when korg announced the kp3 vst ( in which you can modify a lot of parameters) after they invested into nu teks and an oscilloscope (really?). But im pretty unsure about this

  • @RenoFriends
    @RenoFriends Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nice machine and great review as always but the price is just insanely absurd

  • @SpyrosVJ
    @SpyrosVJ Před 6 měsíci +1

    It took KORG a while (17 years to be precise - as KP3 was introduced in 2006) to evolve it from a groundbreaker into a me too product. Still, it looks promising.

  • @ancientmartianunderground
    @ancientmartianunderground Před 5 měsíci

    If anyone from Korg reads this, please listen and learn from this man. He is a treasure

  • @loophren
    @loophren Před 6 měsíci

    New challenger incoming 😮.
    I sold my MPC for workflow...
    Had a look on SP-404... Seems very complex...
    And now this Korg...Why !!!!??? 😅
    Thanks as always

  • @rocoafricamg1094
    @rocoafricamg1094 Před 6 měsíci

    I will buy it at first glance once it fits my workflow

  • @kisho2679
    @kisho2679 Před 6 měsíci

    could the pitching of the samples over the pads (chromatically) be added in a feature software update?

  • @oopsgoth
    @oopsgoth Před 6 měsíci +3

    i guess a lot of people are missing that this is meant to be a companion in the dj booth, it can be used standalone without a mixer, or used in tandem with something like a pioneer cdj which is pretty club standard. i think it's pretty impressive to have this be a 2ch in 34ch out audio interface, and i'm not sure, but by having a usb 2.0 jack, it means that in Surface Mode you can use a usb A cable straight into a cdj to access your sd card and then you can still use your xy pad and faders as midi control surfaces. when you compare this to a cdj-3000 it is an absolute bargain and an interesting workflow as well. loopop is demonstrating very surgical uses for what is something that could possibly make waves in electronic music djs and producers. being able to do full songs per pad over 8 banks with 12 hot cues per pad would be pretty exciting to a dj. i just think the synth market isn't the market for this. we want a new electribe ;)

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Korg decided to use synth/groovebox influencers instead of DJs and will be taking flak for their moronic screw-up.

  • @Shlumpty12
    @Shlumpty12 Před 5 měsíci

    Will you be making a video on the new behringer edge? (genuinely wondering because I love your video format, and how you explain features)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks - no, but check out my DFAM videos since that's what it copies

  • @EarJuice
    @EarJuice Před 6 měsíci +2

    2k Australian. Lol. Kaoss pad mini has exact same effects. Blackbox does more and better for half the price. You can multi sample, it has multiple audio outs not via usb, usb controllers implement so easily and the quantised loops play together so well. Also has sync in and out for modular n volcas, etc. Then you have sequences and can send midi in and out so it's not just a performer but sequncer n brain for a live setup.
    I would've gotten this if the price was right if I didn't know about the blackbox. Just having the ability to play loops quantised and in time with everything else playing along or being sequnced by the blackbox was what I always wanted in my main hardware brain.

  • @linuxbender
    @linuxbender Před 6 měsíci +1

    The primary purpose, it is a DJ Performance Effect Box and not a groove box or performance box for synth or sampler. That's why the inputs and outputs are primarily RCA, where you can easily connect to a good DJ mixer.
    Sure you can use it in another music setup, but the primary firmware updates are not made for a synth or sampler setup. I wouldn't expect that unless you're lucky.

    • @linuxbender
      @linuxbender Před 6 měsíci

      I personally hope Korg makes a new emx 1, esx 1 version. A great grovebox and sampler with lots of good synths and effects. Just like the old blue and red tube devices. With a good and modern sequencer where stochastics, euclide and trig triggers, lfo, envelop, effect stack, sample, sample layer switch would also be included. With lots of memory and streaming from a memory card. Long Stereo sampling and good simple crop, slice, merge, stretch and normalise functions (like the Koala App). App like Overbrige integration etc. Because my old Korg electribe boxes will soon but surely give up the ghost and memory cards are hard to find.

  • @futuremontreal
    @futuremontreal Před 6 měsíci

    Haha I like how you recreated your old beat

  • @dankeplace
    @dankeplace Před 6 měsíci +2

    The most important part, MIDI, do you think you will revisit?
    I want something with motion control MIDI where I can have multiple things going on to control my gear.
    I already have a KP3 and KP3+, would love this instead of the Gaia2, I don't need anymore synths, just ways to manipulate them in a better/quicker way.
    I might read the manual and see what can be done.
    Was looking for a MIDI knob interface and there is really nothing that I can get that is suitable.
    Not a fan of the RCAs, not in this day and age.
    Thx for the upload.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I don't think I'll make a video about the MIDI control aspect of this - like you mentioned it's in the manual, and personally I wouldn't buy it if my focus was MIDI control

    • @dankeplace
      @dankeplace Před 6 měsíci

      @@loopop This and the Gaia2 are the only things I know of that allow motion control, Korg is way over priced, G2 isn't something I would consider now as I don't need another synth.
      Shame as it really is the MIDI aspect I love of both.
      Thx for your response.

  • @newgreyarea
    @newgreyarea Před 6 měsíci

    Hmm. Looks rad. A bit $$$. Can it do the Octatrack cross fader trick for live performance? If so, I’d probably grab. The only thing I miss about the OT.

  • @Scyber_Official
    @Scyber_Official Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have 3 Kaoss Pad 3s which are the heart of my studio - Just everything I program & produced gets manipulated through them & I've been waiting over 12 years for Korg to update their Kaoss Pads - they did with the KP3+ but they let old KP3 users down by not including a software update for regular KP3s.
    I'm very exited for the KP Relay yet I'm gonna wait to buy it until either the price drops or Korg has a sequencing update for it, or they come out with a MKII version with 1/4" ins/outs

  • @kisho2679
    @kisho2679 Před 6 měsíci

    "scratching effect" of the sample by hand over the touch screen would be cool

  • @mad_bad_cat
    @mad_bad_cat Před 6 měsíci +11

    Nothing like an evening loopop video. And with the hallmark intro jam!

  • @3tree
    @3tree Před 6 měsíci

    Great job as ever thanks Ziv. Now after catching it on your chest, volley it over to Florian for the ‘response’ 😬

  • @bill77
    @bill77 Před 6 měsíci

    So taking in to account there aren't very many Synth fx on this new box ... on the Kaossilator Pro, it was possible to play the synths via MIDI with a speciial cable. Is that possible here? Does the Replay respond to MIDI notes on the synths? Or perhaps just for triggering pads?

  • @camerontube87
    @camerontube87 Před 5 měsíci

    Could you connect external drum pads to this to trigger samples ect?

  • @bigbadjojo4863
    @bigbadjojo4863 Před 6 měsíci +1

    it looks like something from Native instruments Traktor. I heard Akai was making something similar called the MPC Live mini.

  • @mcilrain
    @mcilrain Před 6 měsíci +1

    Reminds me of the Korg KM2.

  • @kelvin_darwin
    @kelvin_darwin Před 6 měsíci

    Interesting to see a new sampler/effects unit on the market. Some pretty unique features, but nothing that comes near the MPC Live II. No envelop, no phantom power, can't be powered by a battery, and only one effect at a time make the SP404 a bit more practical of a unit. The build quality, 2 faders, kaos pad, and the workflow are impressive though. Interested in where they will be taking this thing.

  • @kriss12loverap
    @kriss12loverap Před 6 měsíci

    Love it korge please update kaossilator app

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK Před 6 měsíci

    21:50 Hey! PITCH CORRECTOR - This is a first? for a KORG product to have it. You are moving through different chords, but can you do "chromatic" / non-chorded? What does the Y axis do? The machine only does one effect at a time? so it's too bad you can't add another effect after the Tuning. (Which you can do on 404 and MPC now.)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 6 měsíci

      Please check the manual for a list of all the XY controls for the different effects (and like I mentioned I wish they added that on screen...)

  • @romi2910001
    @romi2910001 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi and happy new year, do you know if this unit comes preloaded with samples in the sd card or completely blank ? Thanks👍

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Před 4 měsíci +1

      What I got was a preproduction unit, but it did come with a factory project with many of the pads full, so I think it's safe to assume yours will too. Happy New Year!