EXPOSED: Thousands Of Bad C&P Exams Ruin VA Claims! Did You Experience This?
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If you believe you had a Bad C&P Exam/Experience, contact the VA hotline at 1-800-827-1000. Speak with a representative and provide a detailed account of your experience. Ensure that the representative documents your complaint in your VA claim file and forwards your request for a NEW C&P Exam to your state's VA Regional Office.
Join us in this crucial discussion as Senator Elizabeth Warren demands a comprehensive review of the VA's privatized disability compensation and pension (C&P) exams. After receiving troubling feedback about the quality and professionalism of these assessments, Senator Warren has reached out to VA Secretary Denis McDonough, pushing for substantial changes. This video, sourced from Military.com, highlights the potential implications for veterans' disability claims and ratings.
Senator Warren's letter to the VA Secretary calls attention to serious issues, including veterans meeting examiners in unprofessional settings and reports of insufficient review of veterans' medical histories. Our video dives into the historical shift towards using private contractors for these exams, the increase in privatization, and the numerous challenges this has brought to the forefront.
We also analyze the responses from the VA and the potential reforms that could reshape how veterans' disability claims are handled. With insights from VA Inspector General and Government Accountability Office reports, this video is a must-watch for veterans navigating VA claims and seeking to understand how upcoming changes could affect their disability ratings.
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Have you had a C&P exam you felt was rushed or sloppy done by one of the contracting companies?
I would like you to do something that will differentiate you from all other VA claim channels and be different and informative to veterans. Many Veterans aren't aware of what a "proper" process would look like compared to an improper C&P exam. Bring a VA-approved C&P medical professional and have them show what is proper or inappropriate for a C&P exam. That way, if the actual C&P exam is conducted wrongly, the veteran knows it and can take appropriate action, such as calling the VA hotline on the same day of the appointment. (An additional avenue that is okay is to send a written statement via fax to Janesville to attest to what exactly is improper with the exam.
I had one on january 2024 fro QTC and 2 months later VA call me saying i had a No show to my C&P. I Told them i was there, the name of the NP that did the exam and they end it giving me another appoinment to do all over again. This people suck big time
In anothe note the VA need to stop giving the NP the right to performe a C&P exams. If there were cualify why i need specialist to diagnose my conditions when as VA a NP can evaluate those conditions.
Yes, I had a C & P exam in November 2023 and was in there for 15 min, examiner did not want to go over the DBQ for Sinusitis/Rhinitis or Sleep Apnea. He said all need to know if you have a diagnosis for each claimed illness. Did not want the DBQ that was filled out said he would do his own. Now going through the appeal process
Yes. I was denied for my tinnitus and hearing loss even they admit that I have it. The examiner didn't believe me that I had a very hard time hearing in my left ear versus my right. She kept coming into the booth to adjust my ear pieces.
Had four exams scheduled at one time last month. I showed up with everything I had uploaded for my claims but didn’t bring the copy or my Service Treatment Records. The examiner hadn’t been given any of the required documents from the VA and couldn’t use the copies I had with me, even though I showed her they were all uploaded to my claim. It was extremely frustrating.
I spent my whole drive home on the phone with VA Hotline making a complaint. Waited a month, and just got notification that I’m being rescheduled for all four exams.
This process and the way the VA handles everything is disappointing and embarrassing for our government and the way they take care of Vets.
Been to at least 20 c&p exams, had a few good ones but most were very pathetic and weak
I believe we know why. VA strongly suggests that the examiner scrutinize the veterans claims. The belief is we are all lying about our illnesses.
And the record reviewers are ignoring your DBQ's !
yea i experienced it. the reviewer of my migraine claim who is a Physician Assistant totally ignored my Medical Doctors nexus, all my buddy letters from active duty.... and flat out said that since I never went to medical for headaches I did not have them. AND she stated that there is no medical link between tinnitus and migraines or visa versa. WTF?? i hired lawyers to do a HLR. such bullshit.
I had a C&P Exam for Sleep Apnea in December 2023, but I never received the test results. My first test was in 2018 when I took a 30-minute test at the VA. I was given a CPAP machine to take home and use, as the VA informed me that I had sleep apnea. I have been using the machine regularly since then. However, despite using the machine, I was denied benefits again."
This is a great topic but I had my VA C&P exam in 2009 at the DC VA Medical Center just before i retired. I have had two major back surgeries (Discectomies) while on active duty due to a parachute accident. Chronic back pain since the accident. My VA examiner never said a word about stopping when i feel pain - I told him i felt pain standing up straight, but i could come close to touching my toes all while in pain. No device was used to measure any angles. My right leg has had constant numbness along my calf and the sole of my left foot is numb. I went in for the hearing test and the testor accused me cheating. I had a flash bang go off near my ear and blow out my ear drum while on active duty. I ended up with 10% for my back and 10% for tinnitus. I called the number you listed in the video to report it but it ended up being a menu with no clear indication of which office to go to in order to report my experience.
I filed for Tinnitus No C&P and when I read my letter it said not military related 😡
YES YES YES! Just recently had my VBA print out my exam and found at least four or five items that were incorrect! I was surprised that the Examiner wrote down incorrect info! It was the difference between a 20% rating and a 40% rating 😢
It’s nuts how some examiners think it’s perfectly okay to make up numbers that should be just measured
My last C&P exam with a VA doctor did not touch or exam my foot I could not walk on. All she did was Yelled at me telling me I can drive a car. No clue what driving has to do with me not being able to walk on my foot.
must be QTC... i had the same done like 4 years ago, didnt even take my sock off or anything, i appealed it, and i got 30% from bilateral flat feet and about $20K in back pay...the appeals judge said it was a crappy examination.
@@LuisRodriguez-vk2ym I called the VA and they sent me to a different doctor not part of the VA or QTC. I live in Germany but my most recent C&P exam was done by QTC.
On April 16,2024
I had a C&P examination for my right knee. Doing the exam, the examiner never took my paperwork, she only asked me to bend my knee twice and did not use a goniometer. This seems like it was not a thorough examination because the exam was done at the reception desk and I heard people walking around in the back. There was no privacy and I felt like she was dismissive.
I think there is a conflict of interest, because the examiners are getting paid by the VA and doing exams for the VA. Veterans should be able to pick their own doctors to do C&P exams.
Just went through that at C&P, and then she looked at my medical records after she had seen me
Thanks man, my examiner was late and I felt rushed
The last part about them assaulting you by going past your pain. My very first time having my lower back evaluated, i had surgery a few months prior on my back. Only had the wound vac off for a week when my exam was because I got a gnarly infection after back surgery. The woman examiner was telling me that herniated discs in an mri doesn't guarantee I'm feeling pain. DDD with stenosis and nerve impaction doesn't guarantee I'm in pain when i bend. I bent forward further than I should have in the first place, and my legs began to shake. She pressed on my shoulder to flex me forward more, and i just fell straight forward. She began apologizing like crazy but what was done was done. Ended up back in the hospital and such and called the VA and got a new exam and such. I never found out what happened to this doctor but I couldn't believe she literally bent me forward until I fell. I'm 100% p&t after the second exam following the nonsense.
Thank you for your time and hard work and dedication to helping veterans with this difficult VA disability claims process, please continue to educate us on all aspects and procedures that may be helpful, thanks again.
Sure did! I had Diagnosis, Chronic Condition, Nexus, all of it. My contractor was LoyalSource. C&P examiner completely unprepared and accusatory. All conditions denied in record time.
No goniometer for ROM too. Even brought medical evidence which was ignored. My mistake was I waited until denial until I called the VA Hotline and wrote my Congressman. HLR/Supplemental appeal here I come with or without my VSO. Also no travel reimbursement after 40 days after the exam, despite the letter saying 10 days. Total abortion all around.
So unfortunate. Hopefully you get a good supplemental claim done and set things straight
I pray they change this because alot of my claims have been denied with the required evidence to rate my conditions.
I've had favorable ratings and they send it out to get a negative opinion just to deny my claims. I do a HLR. They do a duty assist without speaking to me. write it up without stating the error. Then continue the claim.
Great stuff man! Keep up the great work! 💯💯
The VA did not provide my C&P examiner with any of my 10 documents that I uploaded at the time of submitting my claim.
I brought my entire file and the examiner typed almost every document into the computer during my exam. He said it was great that I brought them and that I made his job very easy.
Last week, not sure how it will come back now.
Just did my C&P exams today and yesterday, wish I had a lot of this info before but glad I’m finding it now in case my claims get denied. Thank you for making this channel, will definitely be back here if my claims don’t go my way.
Wow! This is great information! Thank you ❤
Cheers, have a great weekend
They usually wont provide research and rationale for their decision. Just cut and paste out of ur med records
Congress complaining about how another organization is performing their duty, well, isn't that ironic. Congress has a lower approval then a angry ex-wife
Had a.C&P two weeks ago, and the examiner was kind, thorough, and sincere. It was a great experience, but I've had bad exams too. One thing she said to me I would like to share.... she hates it (and I understand why) when she gets a person in that has a list of 40 issues, they all smile and giggle and openly state they "hope they filed right so they can 'get the money.'" When you go to your exams, be humble, answer their questions the best you can, and if you are there to rip off the VA, don't be braggadocious about it. You mess it up for all the legit claimants.
I hope she denies everyone of those POS
Agree
Ngl, it's better that those "rip off" vets get the money than giving it to foreign countries
two weeks ago i had a bad exam. They sent me to a general practitioner when my problem dealt with problems outside the scope of this doctor. First time ever getting a survey on how did they do. I had to be honest and told them that if my general doctor can't evaluate me for nerve, feet and headache issue how is this doctor who this was his first VA claim he did and was 2 years out of school.
I had a bad exam and reported it, requested a new exam, I never received a re exam. Still not connected for those conditions.
I had some good exams but the VA ignored the recommendations of the examiners. When i filed the appeal, the interviewer got pissed because of the way the beginner people at the VA handled my case. Along with not getting exams for more than 3/4 of the things i had claimed.
I have had 6 or 7 exams only one got me anything and I have no idea how much money was wasted on me for these exams that were useless.
I’ve saw line by line bill in hmm for my appointments as of last week and each appointment started at $500
Big time yes! Reason that my OSA secondary to LBP via intermediate step from obesity is waiting to be seen by BVA Judge after 3 denials even with positive nexus provided…
They f.... me over May 27th 2024. Cp examiner was supposed to review my files n didnt. Go denied HLR duty to assist error after 3yrs waiting
This happens to me 2 years ago with mine, the lady was extremely rude, and did not use any tools to measure my back. And they denied me for back and knees.
Yes, it happened to me More than once. But i have hope now that someone is fighting for us
Happend to me with my C&P exam for mental health, the man made me wait 20 min then rushed the exam and was out the door in 20 min. The appointment should have been at least an hour, he even chuckled at some of the stuff I said.
Mine got done in Pensacola Florida. They did good for me. I got 100% p&t. I also got a lawyer.
My recent exams were very supportive on my claim.
Happened to me. Yes or no eval. Pushed me down toward floor saying i could go further. Very rude, non caring. My first thought racial, female issues or just didn't care.
IMy C&P exam was done at a hair salon. I couldn't believe it. Very disrespectful.
How in the world would get a copy of the CNP exam notes…….
I’ve had the VES call me saying I had an upcoming appointment that was not an in person appointment or a zoom appointment, they MAY call me on a specified date for information regarding my claim to possibly ask me questions. They may call from a blocked number or a number that comes up as Spam or scam but I have to answer the call anyway. Turns out no one ever called. This has happened twice now in the past three weeks. I’m now waiting to get the denial letter from the VA.
Same thing for me, that appointment was for someone (physician)who was going to be “reviewing “ my records. The other two appointments were for actual physicians.
Explains a lot. They had an appointment set up and canceled it. Then denied some of my claims
For sure, take your claim file to the C&P to include scan, X-rays, etc. It's a hassle for them to dig through our file after an exam. If they're not writing at the moment your being examined then it's a guarantee you're going to HLR.
This all well and good but my appointment for C & P exam is virtual. Plus, I was notifed like three days after claim was submitted that exam was scheduled. I've been working on supporting documentation but don't think I can get all of it to the VA before exam which was within 3 weeks.
lesson learned, never put in a claim without having all the evidence.
Is this why 4 of my claims were deferred? I had C&P exams done by a VES contractor. When I received my decision letter a month later 4 claims were deferred for "VA medical opinion." I later found the deferred claims were sent to QTC for review.
That happened to me. My exam took place at a regious shared office space in a storage room / office. It was my first exam and i was so confused. Other people in the waiting room was there for interviews for jobs. I questioned if i was in the right place. Im happy i didnt leave because i got a small rating but i thought i was in the wrong place
Plus. The "doctor" didnt know why i was there. I had to tell her my issues. They didnt have the appropriate documentation nor my MRI imaging. Im happy i had it with me. It was like. I had to tell her / teach her what was wrong with me.
I have a high level review in. But i cant believe this is happening to alot if people and not just me
I join your group of people misled about these outside examinations. My examinations were a flop and these people get paid lots of money for nothing by the VA. Our money given to other people instead of to us.
there's absolutely no way they are getting contracted out and paid $5k per 30-60 min exam.
As a medical examiner myself I was literally just thrown into this job with only 2 days of observation. If you can imagine the stress I have while trying to help the Veterans! I never had such an experience with any previous employers in my entire career. So yeah...some of us medical examiners are unprepared for this job as well. I work many hours ( without pay) to be able to help the Veterans I am examining and also do my job correctly.
😊.
Lowest cost bidder. I have had a few sketch locations for sure here in Texas (Houston area).
My buddy was a Sub Contractor for VES. Theyre company made 7 million a year doing Exams. They were a MINIMUM $1500 per exam. They rented a room at another Doc office, or Chiropractor, and paid a doc to be there. So it was expensive. $5000 would not be a surprise at all.
This is just another reason why we Claim Sharks 🦈 have a job! We know the system and we do not allow the VA to jerk our clients around.
Frankly, Even though I’ve been denied by contractors and VA examiners I’d rather use a contractor ALL DAY LONG. The pos VA examiners always deny claims, and hide behind the “I’m just documenting the information that the raters have instructed me to, and I’m not the decision maker for you claim.” WTFE!
They ignore our evidence, diagnosis and nexus and treat us like we deserve nothing from the VA except “thank you for your service.” The VA should stop wasting the $5k for these damn repeated exams just so they can deny Vets. Newsflash: Our gov’t gives our tax dollars away everyday to illegals and others who served a day in NOTHING! I don’t care if there’s a Vet who is getting some benefits that are more than they deserve since the fact remains that they actually served this country once they enlisted.
The VBA raters are the entitled ones who have an over-inflated view of their position and responsibility. They only utilize 38cfr when it aligns with their denial. Every time I hear them say “we want to approve as many claims as we can,” I want to vomit! Ever wonder why so many RVSRs and VSRs are at 100% t&p while the rest of us fight for 10, 30 or 50%. It is a total disgrace!!
I was with my brother in early April when he had his C&P exam. He had to be transported from his Veteran's home to the exam site. The exam was conducted in a room with and exam table in a Physical Therapy facility. I have learned through videos such as this that for back issue the examiner has to use a Goniometer to measure range of motion. My brother is confined to a wheel chair; he can not get up or stand up on his own let alone bend at the waist on his own while in the wheel chair. The examiner didn't use the Goniometer and just recorded 0 range of motion (I believe) and indicating why. Is this an issue that the geniometer wasn't used, especially when it serves no purpse in my brother's condition?
This Man is the truth❤
Cheers Archer
3:58 dawg never puts the picture on screen 😭😭
My C&P examiner sat there chewing his gum and spitting it out and putting in fresh gum. He was about 80 years old. He was terrible!
That’s why you have veterans pissed off and talking about it for five years until they get appeal resolved what a bad reputation for five years for each case as the vet and speak about it………
1.) ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make copies.
2.) WHY WOULD SENATORS GIVE A FF ABOUT VETS?
3.) If I call or email Senators about the J6'ERS, I NEVER HEAR BACK. WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THIS EXAM?
When I hear about these C&P exams, paid consultants don't sound so bad.
How are you getting your clients XRays? I live in Asia, so we get full body XRays no problem. However the USA is a BITCH when it comes to getting that done. So what do you have your Vets do there?
I have a C&P coming up next week. They told me it's a 7 hour exam. I hope they are on the up and up.
Good Lord!! 7 hours... I would be frustrated after the first hour..
I bet that doesn't happen.... i had a combine claims exam and i was in and out of there in an hour! thats good and bad!
Yea the C&P examiners get the cash for multiple exams and have you in and out in 30 minutes. This practice should be stopped immediately because it results in falsified DBQ’s and denials or low initial ratings. It is not a gold strike it is our story of health being minimized for profit.
I had an independent examiner call me up and ask me to send her my medical records last month. I asked her why she did not get them from the va and she said that they did not send them to her. I then sent her my whole claim file and she freaked out and told me to only re send 2 pieces of information instead. I ended up getting denied last week and she ignored all my evidence including a full 34 page doctor nexus and dbq.