These 3 C&P Exam Mistakes Get You Auto-DENIED
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Your VA Compensation & Pension exam is the most important day in your entire VA disability claim process. This video teaches you how to ace your C&P exam and how to avoid the common pitfalls that keep veterans from receiving their full benefits.
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I'm just starting to get seen by VA medical, collecting notes from fellow service members,and collecting all medical records. This channel is blowing my mind.
Preachhhhhhh 😂❤
My C&P examiner told me that she didn't want me to hurt myself. She told me to just bend until I felt pain or discomfort.
That's what mine did. She was awesome and afyer 8 years of trying to get properly rated she made it happen!
@andresluna351 I just had my C&P on June 5th. I probably won't hear anything back until Halloween..😆
That’s what you call a rockstar C&P examiner, good on her
My examiner didn’t use a ghoneometer to measure my angle.
@@lookoutnow4996 I'm willing to bet August. Took me 6 weeks to hear back, shits moving quicker than before, I'm crossing my fingers for YA.
man I like the way you explain things, you are very squared away
Thanks for this Joe, it’s something I’m continuing to work on
I'm 55 years old and just starting my process. Great videos and lots of information! Thanks!
Preachhhhhhh 😅❤
80 percent of the time they don't send key evidence by the IG office - good video as usual SIR !!!
GTO the legend… Cheers and good health to you my friend
I know they are coming after people like you but I see you are one of the few helpful ones. Yes their is a small charge that you do but not taking advantage like some company I won't name tried to charge me 10k of my benifits off top for minimal work... thank you very much for what you do seriously you have a tremendous effect on some people in a good way I hope you know that.
Just had my exam for my back (ankylosis) on the 22nd. My examiner didn't use the tool to measure my back. She also tried to trip me up by asking me, how did I know I had ankylosis if I never had X-rays? My response "because the military diagnosed me 😏☺️"
My exam was pretty quick. Although she didn't use the tool, when she told me to bend I barely moved. I'll come back with an update.
Update?
@@frankieredd156 I have a few more appointments scheduled today actually. I'm just as curious myself. I will provide an update as soon as I get one, my case is still pending.
If you need to appeal or refile make sure you make that a part of your claim. "C&P examiner did NOT use a goniometer to measure range of motion."
@@TeilaSimon any update?
@@tylerwinchell4467Not yet. As soon as my claim moves I will let you guys know.
Awesome info my brother! Keep up the good work.
Good info! Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Way to break it down. I'd go as far as to leave the examiner your statement and evidence just in case they have any lingering questions. I didn't and the examiner got some things wrong. Keep up the great work. Thank you Sir
My last exam was in March 2024. The first thing the examiner asked was. "Were these not in your records? It's remanded." I had to explain to her the judge remand it back to the VA to get a rating. My records of my back injury were lost on active duty in 2009. It's always been noted that I had scoliosis going in prior 2005. The VA lost my records along with my buddy statements somewhere between 2015-2022. I was able to get new statements and now should be getting a decision here soon. I have 6 claims all dating back to 2012. My whole case was grandfathered into the new system.
Also, I have a TDIU as well in this current claim. I haven't worked since 2021.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2012 oh wow that's a huge payout if approved! Good luck to you I rooting for you batle buddy!
@strongface87 Thanks. It's been a long time coming for my family and I.
Hello Jordan, Great advice! You are truly an awesome guy and Thank You for the video and all you do to help fellow veterans.
It’s my pleasure my friend, great seeing you
@@vaclaimsacademy I’m always waiting on your awesome videos my friend.
Good video, easy to watch, lots of good info, no gloves.
Thank you for your tips.
These insightful tips have assisted me by a huge measure.
I am now at 70% combined, but have my shoulder on active duty, PTSD and my back (I flew Apaches with the 82nd and was airborne qualified in my late 30's).
Thank you!
Very good advice!
By the way, the military lost my medicial records after retiring with 38 years...I had a printout after my last deployment of my injuries and flight physicals, though.
How many vets lose out because of this?
Thanks again!!!!
thanks for the tips and information
As usual, thank you for the great info.
Can you do a video regarding SC for fibroids? Do you know much about this topic?
During my exam dude didn’t even look at me. He sat there looking at his paper. He didn’t say anything about pain. He just said go as far as you can go. I can barely bend over before pain kicks in. But I can touch the floor but I’m in excruciating pain.
You stop at the first sign of pain.
@@shannoncurtis5503 yeah I wish I knew that back then. But the diaper stain of an examiner didn’t say anything about pain. Just go as far as you can.
My MH examiner never asked about history prior to Iraq deployment, talked about stressor statements, how I’ve been dealing with stuff daily and dreams I have. Was very pleasant, talked a little over an hour tele-exam, I didn’t really care if I got a rating or not basically. My VA records noted multiple times about stuff (non MH docs). VA and my VFW VSO (another veteran) actually talked me into just filing and just talk to examiner and see.
Absolutely! Bring your paperwork reflecting your injuries. My doctor didn’t have mine, said he was provided nothing showing my fractured vertebrae.
Oh damn!
Sameeee! .. she said "thank you for bringing these so many people come so unprepared"
Had a similar experience. They didn’t have my health records and MRI but lucky for me I had everything printed out bfr I went there
That having medical documents is a big one. I went for a Migraine C&P They told me the VA put in for tension headaches. They also didn't send her any of my records. I was able to grab a blue button of my recent exams I validated at least the basic info was there before sending them to VES. Currently waiting for someone to update so I know w hats going on. But yeah va is for sure not sending documents over.
I literally just had a C&P and examiner did not have any measurement tool to gauge my ability to lean forward. I was kinda taken back by that based on your previous videos on back injuries. Also brought my personal statement, he didn’t even look at it.
Did you get a favorable outcome?
During my back exam, I could not bend during the ROM test because I was in so much pain. My back literally feels frozen (really stiff and tight with pain), so she was not able to use the tool to test my rom. I signed a waiver for not using the tool. On the paperwork she had me state my reason why I couldn't do the ROM test.
Something to note, I brought my records with me as they didn't have them all even though I loaded them. the examiner noted she could look at them but couldn't use them as a valid evaluation as when shhe submitted the results the "back office" QA department wouldnt have them to review and would kick it back. This was Optum Serve. As an FYI.
I did a sleep study through optim serve and although they determined I had Sleep Apnea, the VA denied my claim because it wasn't in my VA medical record. Now I have to redo the entire process
Had the same examiner twice for my orthopedic and sinus rhinitis issues. The best guy ever. Mental health are the worst got 100 % and my mental health issues got deffered and the 3rd different examiner accused me of filing claims for more money. Did HLR and still got denied I really think there decision is based I’m already 100%
If you are 100% don’t poke the bear.
the issues I encounter with C & P exams, is that the examiner don't get the accurate records and so, they just answer what the VA asking and that alone they denied me a few times for the same condition.
I'm pretty new to this channel and its been great. I ETS in 40 days. I'm aware that things need to be documented to be service connected. I submitted my BDD claim through a VSO with 14 things on it. My VSO said that he couldn't pull records for sinusitis/rhinitis with nosebleeds and a few other things. Is it worth going to sick call while on terminal leave to get some other things documented? I've already gone through the majority of my medical appointments civilian side. Thanks in advance!
I stopped moving my knee at the real point of pain. This seemed to "disappoint" my examiner, a VA C&P examiner, who then rearranged my position such that my body weight collapsed my knee WELL PAST any point of pain
It hurt!!
And, I DON'T WANT to do it again!!
It's the VA's game. We just have to learn how to play it.
Estaban knows what’s going on 🫡
@@vaclaimsacademy Learned it the hard way and been following your channel. Appreciate the good info!
Great information.
If you're going for TDUI (70% mental health), the same advice applies I assume?
Bring your records. Bring your personal statement. If you sent in buddy statements from service or family members bring those. If your personal statement does not talk about how your condition affects your life, write it down and read or use it for notes to tell the examiner. Make sure you talk about how it has affected your current or past jobs (missing work, disciplined for missing work, being fired or laid off etc.) If not currently employed talk about how it will make it difficult to get and hold a job in the future.
My C & P examiner didn’t even use a goniometer during the ROM part of the exam despite me asking about it. It's in HLR now. If no success on that, on to Supplemental.
Sometimes that happens but they’re actually helping you out, but sometimes they will not use it and just lowball you for whatever reason. Seems like there needs to be way more accountability. Especially since it costs the taxpayer like $5,000 per exam I hear
I was stationed at a PRP base and it caused a lot of issues going through the x-ray machine daily. I’m looking into trying to purchase your help and wanted to see if that might be something I could get your help to prove.
Does anyone know if we can still file for Migraine headaches secondary to Tinnitus? I saw it was supposed to change, but didn't see when.
I went to the C&P exam for my back about two weeks ago. The dude used a goniometer...however, the jackass went from measuring one ROM to another and wasnt writing each one down after measuring. I saw the dbq a few days ago and that piece of schit essentially indicated that I had full ROM, even when I basically just peeked at my toes and said that's as far as I can go without feeling pain.
How are you able to view the DBQ’s?
Can you do a video on claim 1151
3 C&P this year. None had any of the evidence I uploaded to VA when I filed. I had my entire file for each claim and all three were excited and input all evidence into the system. It paid off on all three claim/ C&P for me. The VA gives little to no information, from my experience.
If you haven’t, go to va.gov and start an account. If you have an account you can pull up your medical records and bring them to your exam.
How likely is it if we obtain & submit a private DBQ, we will get sent directly (Ready to Rate) without being sent to be scheduled for the C&P Exam? How often do you see it happen in both scenarios?
My C&P Examiner said I am going to rate your claims as approved for Benefits but wrote the opposite on the letter to the Raters.
It's because of the questions the VA is asking on the medical opinion. If VA is asking a specific question then we have to answer it truthfully. This is a legal exam.
Just got denied on back, feet, ankles and knees but was diagnosed during exam…what exactly went wrong?
Just had my C&P exam, my examiner used that goniometer for everything on me. I didn’t have to sign anything though? Could that mean anything?
Why do they ask you to move a second or third time after you told them you have pain on the first movement?
What if I was denied past claims but I was diagnosed by C&P examiners?
I have a question, I have issues and different types of diagnosis, per x-rays with my back and neck. I’m svc connected at 50 for joint conditions-If let’s say I get 80 or 60% out of the back and neck? What would be my total rating?
If you are already at 50 percent and you get another rating at 80 percent that would be 80 percent of the 50 that is left so 80 percent of 50 that's left would be 40 percent your total would be 90 percent. If you got another rating at 60 percent that would be 30 percent giving you a total of 80 percent.
Dam I kinda push my shoulders beyond my pain/ discomfort and the examiner kinda push my arm up as well, and she didn’t seven asked me anything about being connected or not for my conditions, I’m kinda nervous now
If ever offered video call for mental health refuse it. It might be hard to do in person but I will never convey your pain via video like u will in person. I'm telling you from expirience. Goodluck vets
Interesting, thanks for sharing that Andres, and great to see you as always 🫡
I felt my phone call was easier for me to let my guard down and convey what I felt
I second this... do it in person.
Results may vary. I had a video call and was rated 70% for MH, which is what I think fits my symptoms
Not true at all. I received a 50% rating with a video MH conference. And I was able to get my wife to talk to the psychiatrist alone. They both think I have PTSD. I'll use that later...
question im going to the VA for the first time served 10 active army after 20 of being out. all i have been is talk to the VA staffer to get medical for primary care. i do have ringing in my ears and is service related. but never talk to anyone about it my MOS 11M. So do i first go after my ear ringing first. once that's done and wait to get connected then go for 2nd diary conditions cant goto sleep wake up alot have to have tv on for the noise, mental health needs or appointments.
You need to watch more videos and you will see you might be jumping the gun. Work on the big 3 first. I’m in the very beginning stages too.
You definitely want to make sure you are officially diagnosed with tinnitus first before completing your claim submission.
After that, a good personal statement explaining your high noise exposure will help get approved, a nexus letter as well will help maximize your odds at approval
@@vaclaimsacademy I hear ya but that's not necessary for tinnitus, they will test your and the machine makes a noise in the background like the ringing in your ears, say that and they diagnose you themselves
I never had a diagnosis until my c&p exam for hearing and tinnitus
@@real-h1739 Same here.
My CP exam was bullshit .. guy was a piece of work .. he was national guard major in his own private practice doing these exams and always talking over me.. needless to say everything was denied ..
I had a C&P exam for my migraines with VES and I never heard anything or received any more mail telling me of my appointment so I contacted them and after finally getting through they said they didn’t set an appointment the doctor just sent evidence in without me being seen… is that possible? What should I do because it didn’t help my claim at all.
If your claim is denied, file an appeal and let them know you never had a C&P exam; not in person, not by video conference, not by telephone.
Can you file a claim if you believe you have something wrong but didn’t see a Dr yet/ do not have a record of it?
You could file an intent to file which gives you 1 calendar year to finish filing and gather evidence and get diagnosed. But without a diagnosis and a service connection before the year is up your chances of success are near zero. If you file within 1 year of discharge most of your conditions will be presumed to be service related. But, you would still need a diagnosis.
Where did my other comment disappear to!!?? 😮
Can someone explain what a “diagnosis” is exactly. If it’s in my records in general it was diagnosed right??
Have you see a dr yet? It would be in your medical records. Check your blue button report on the Va health website
@@hereforthecomments456 ahhh got you. I just got out the military and the c&p asked me if I was “diagnosed”. Everything I was claimed is in my records, but there was a couple things I said no to since I didn’t understand. I can imagine this having a negative impact on the rating later, unless they look through the records and realize it is there for a decision.
many times the c&p examiner will diagnose your condition, especially tinnitus
Chronic conditions
Diagnosis is true medical evaluation and acknowledgement by a trained medical licenced person who has the education to state such things and write or document it for further use within ones medical history or records. ❤🎉
Does PTSD always need to be combat related?
No! There is such thing as Non Combat PTSD!
My problem is getting a C&P exam. The VA is not wanting to send me for them.
That's strange. Even after you filed claims?
Hopefully your evidence is enough, without a c&p.🤞🏼
Because you don’t have enough evidence
I took my wife's lay statement to my mental health one.
Still waiting on the results. Let me know if y'all want an update.
@@DeltaOscarDelta03Anything yet?
What if your in pain all the time😂
They aren't accepting anything not PACT Act related. So don't bother. I speak from experience. I have tonnitus, diagnosed, treated, and even issued hearing aids from the VA, and they denied my tinnitus claim. The best advice you can guve a veteran is DO NOT BOTHER TO FILE. YOU WILL NOT BE APPROVED.
As a medical examiner... please don't fake the pain. I rather have you tell me the severity of pain when you truly have a flare than fake it. I have different tests that I can check, without you being aware...and see if the truth is not being told. Please tell us the truth. Its best that way.
E4’s fake pain all the time and they walk away with 100% with less than four years of service and no deployment or rotations. How does that happen when a 21yr retiree is denied claims deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan and get less? I’m sincerely asking this question. I’m seeing it a lot lately.
@@iamtheonlywilly we are not rating the conditions. It's VA who decides on what percentage to give. We have nothing to do with it.
@@iamtheonlywillyand no proof of back pain for some of these young guys that never served in a war and they walk away with 100% and our war veterans still fighting for compensation. It’s so sad.
@@naedinehall5806 yes my heart goes out to them! 😔
I was stationed at a PRP base and it caused a lot of issues going through the x-ray machine daily. I’m looking into trying to purchase your help and wanted to see if that might be something I could get your help to prove.