広島原爆被爆者とエノラゲイ乗組員の邂逅 Kiyoshi Tanimoto -This is your life-John Hershey's "Hiroshima" main characters
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20世紀アメリカジャーナリズムのトップ100の１位に選ばれたジョン・ハーシーの『ヒロシマ』
主人公の一人、谷本清は、原爆の犠牲者となった25人の若い女性を治療するためにアメリカへ渡る。 その時に出演した番組。
原爆投下したエノラゲイの乗組員ロバートルイスと対面した谷本の娘近藤紘子のこの時の心情はアメリカ大統領バラクオバマが広島平和記念公園を訪れた際のスピーチにも引用されています。
清本人のこの番組についての話やそれ以外の平和活動については本人著書「広島原爆とアメリカ人―ある牧師の平和行脚」 (NHKブックス)に詳しく書いてあるが絶版で市場にもなかなか出回らない為読むのは難しい。今でも手に入る関連書籍は下記
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Kiyoshi Tanimoto: a Methodist minister educated in the United States at Emory University was 3,500 yards from the center of the explosion;
John Hershey's "Hiroshima" Ranked Number One in the Top 100 American Journalism of the 20th Century
One of the main characters, Kiyoshi Tanimoto, travels to America to treat 25 young women who were victims of the atomic bombing. The program that appeared at that time.
The feelings of koko Kondo, Tanimoto's daughter, who met the crew of the Enola Gay, which dropped the atomic bomb, were quoted in a speech by US President Barack Obama when he visited the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park.
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The range of emotions this man was put though in just 30 minutes is utterly heartbreaking
I can't believe they made him meet the man who dropped the bomb and they didn't even ask if he was okay with that. That's fucked up. I feel so bad for that man.
So true! His face is pale and his eyes like saucers as he's forced to endure the pilot's account. And what about the "da, da, da, DA" musical effects accompanying the film of the atom bomb explosion in Hiroshima, "with the whole city burning...people running from the city with skin hanging from their bodies. " This is sick treatment of their guest.
And everyone applauding for the man who dropped the bomb! I get that he was a guest on the show and you want to greet the guests, but... maybe he shouldn't have been there? "Friendship" was their term. Nah. I prefer having friends who didn't MURDER half my city!
ugh and the forced handshake
All of you are so soft. The guy agreed to it, the war was over.
Polite discussion and documentation of the events are good.
Plus Captain Lewis even makes the first donation to their charity fund, and Tanimoto thanks him. This is how you make amends, head-on. All of you would hide and avoid Tanimoto out of fear of offending him.
@@jwonz2054 Its not about soft. its not about that...
You can feel Lewis tearing upside during the entire show. He is unable to say a word without it being forced out of him.
When he talk to Tanimoto, up until he donate his money. Tanimoto you can see really emphasize with him. Lewis did drink before and after the show. This show probably effected him much more. It was a extremely real moment, forced yes, but the "enemy" and "enemy" meet. and the american are so incredible filled in sorrow and regret , he barely can stand.
LPOTL brought me here. I didn’t expect it to be as disgusting as it was. From the moment the interview starts you can see tears in his eyes. Truly gross!
same just paused mid episode to immediately go watch this clip.
Same, these 30 minutes will live with me forever. If anyone tells me that the new generation of content creators are out of touch...I will think of this.
Same. I hate everything about this.
Same
Same here
"Here is the man who dropped a bomb that killed 100,000 people and now treat yourself with Hazel Bishop long lasting nail polish."
This man deserves an applaud for keeping calm during this garbage program
Mr. Tanimoto’s face says it all. A decade after, possibly, the most significantly awful days in human history, he is haunted by what he saw. His face tells such a haunting story. How can anyone look at his expression and not feel for this man, who did so much to help as many as he could on that horrible day. God bless Mr. Tanimoto and his family. God bless all of the survivors of the atomic bombs.
Rev. Tanimoto looks so massively uncomfortable and embarrassed. You can tell he's furious for being subjected to this indignity without being consulted--as if he and his pain are circus sideshows.
I had just finished reading Hiroshima by John Hersey and the first thing I did was to look up this video, as it was mentioned in the final chapter of the book. Honestly the distastefulness of this is disturbing, even if they mean well. I know it was a different time, but my god.
Tanimoto was just there to raise awareness of the Maidens and what he got was this
I just did the same thing. It's great that we can look back in time and see these kind of videos. The banal way which Tanimoto was treated really is horrible
I came here after reading the book as well. I couldn't even get 10 minutes into it before having to stop the video. This must have been horribly uncomfortable for Rev. Tanimoto. :-/ It's one thing to interview someone and ask questions, but having the sites, sounds, etc. of the sirens and the bomb exploding?? Why try to make someone relive such a horrible experience? Like others have said, I know this was a different time but still, ugh. It's too bad they weren't more sensitive. :(
I told someone i had been reading that book in trips to the bathroom. They made a "dropping the bomb" joke. :(
Yea, I agree: this is so fucked up.
Even though the boys warned me, it was still overwhelmingly disgusting. Re traumatizing this poor man, and the sounds didn't help. The look of horror on his face, as he's realizing they tricked him into an interview to remind him of one of the most disgusting things ever committed to other humans
I came here from the boys too and yeah…you, and they, said it all. And the way the host keeps referring to the bomb as “atomic power”, as though it was just a show of the brilliance and fortitude of america. And I’m sure that he believed that too. Just like the boys said, this is why it was, and still is being taught in such a sanitized “means to an end” way in our schools.
@@spoops2357 Ghoulish indeed.
"the most disgusting things" would probably be the dozens of millions of civilians killed and raped by japanese troops during the war
I feel so sorry for this man and how he was treated and spoken to on this show
Oh perhaps but look at that shine - wow! Nothing is going to chip that beautiful Hazel Bishop polish 💅
The blatant condescension shown here is something to behold....
LPN brought me here and boy were they not kidding about this. This is so surreal, especially with the Hazel Bishop drops. Sometimes I think this current era is wild but those who lived through WW1/2 def still hold that top spot down. 😢😮😂
I looked this up after it was mentioned in the Last Podcast on the Left.
At 15:40 they introduce Robert Lewis who dropped the bomb
Oh man. And the girls behind the screen, the host doesn't need an interpreter for that part because they were already told what to say, "They say they're happy to be in America and thank you to the US for what we're doing for them now." Unreal
I could write a whole article on how inappropriate this was. I knew about this episode od TIYL from John Hersey's book Hiroshima, but I never actually saw the episode until it went up on CZcams. Now that I'm seeing it, my flesh crawls. From Hersey's description, Tanimoto was incredibly uncomfortable when the pilot walked onto the set. He had no idea the pilot would be there, and nobody considered whether or not he was ready to forgive. All Tanimoto wanted was to raise money for those girls to get reconstructive surgery, and this encounter with the pilot was an ambush. It's what I call "forced forgiveness," where a school bully beats up a kid and you force them to shake hands. Furthermore, the rest of the Enola Gay aircrew were not happy about the donation being made on their behalf, because they had no regrets about dropping the bomb. They were angry that someone would apologize on their behalf, because in their eyes, they had nothing to apologize for.
Evidently Robert Lewis, who was hard up for cash, was also ambushed. He did not realize that's what the show would be... and when he did, he ran out and started drinking.
The show staff had to go find him and drag him back.
Throw in the account of passports and visas being specially rushed through... and it becomes clear this was a Federal Govt setup from the beginning.
In the Enola Gay crew's defense, they did not know what they were doing... they could not even conceive of what that bomb would do.
General LeMay and Pres Truman should have been there apologizing if that's what Feds wanted...
Even Truman's son and Obama will happily take the opportunity to grandstand in Hiroshima about "peace" while refusing any apology...
@@APsupportsTerrorism The airmen were told, in no uncertain terms, about the magnitude of their undertaking and the horrible power they were to unleash. One Catholic airman is said to have asked a military chaplain for absolution prior to embarking on the journey.
Ultimately, it was not their decision, and they are no more responsible than was the German aircrew over London - that is, as a disempowered appendage of higher command, which they are obliged to follow.
They chose "obligation to obey authority" over obligation to not burn so many babies to death...
@abrahamblankfein5042 They are not altogether peerless to refuse, but it takes extraordinary fortitude, clarity of purpose and desperate indifference to the personal and social consequences.
My heart broke at 6:50. The look in his eyes when he is recounting such a horrible day. I hope he was able to heal from this horrible thing. While I do think this interview was a bit insensitive, the reverend didnt seem to be too upset or offended by it. They did give him many surprises and gifts, and although the guy who dropped the bomb might not have been the best surprise, one of the maidens of Hiroshima said her hatred for him dissolved whenever she saw him.
It was Tanimoto's daughter, Koko Kondo. From an interview of her on NPR, 8-9-2020:
"Kondo, then just 10 years old, was on the stage when they brought on Capt. Robert Lewis. Lewis was a co-pilot on the Enola Gay, the plane that dropped the bomb over Hiroshima. He told the story of the day he dropped the bomb and said he entered into his log, "My God, what have we done?"
"I was so shocked because I wanted to meet those people who own the airplane so I can [get] revenge," Kondo told NPR. "So, I was staring at his eyes [thinking], 'you're the bad one, I'm the good one.' "
But then she saw Lewis crying and thought, "He's the same human being as me. If I hate, I should not hate this guy. I should hate the war itself, which we human beings caused."
She came up close to him and held his hand.
"I just wanted to touch his hand because I thought, that's my way of showing I'm sorry I hated you, but it's not you who I should hate. And he felt [my] hand touch his hand. He held my hand very tightly," she said.
That meeting changed the course of Kondo's life. She decided she wanted to fight for peace and the end of nuclear weapons.
This is history and it should be preserved, but the way Rev. Tanimoto was treated here seems so tasteless and morbid. He's talking about surviving an atomic bomb and they're selling nail polish. Yikes.
That's capitalism baby!
Ugh, what a slap in the face for Tanimoto to see the guy in person who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima...He looks very hesitant and held back during the whole interview. I don't know what to think about it, really. Thanks for uploading this. I needed to watch it because I have read an excerpt on it for University just now and have to critically analyse this.
At least the guy and the bomber knew the gravity of the situation. Even if everyone else was trying to be Little this farce
My blood reached my brain watchin this, the way the interviewer speaks! i mean cant u even PRETEND to look sad?! they treated him like he wasn’t a human!!,,
i tried a lot to write about Kiyshyoshi Tanimoto and the way he act when louis entered but I couldn’t, he is a real hero, i hope he had a happy life.
I believe through his persona you can see the mans uncomfortable when he starts describing they'll be doing something different. He plays with his wrist and he speaks differently. They knew it was bizarre but perhaps thought it had to be done.
....megustalations everyone. I'm struggling not to fucking break down into full blown sobbing at work rn.
Taking a break from the Manhattan Project with the boys to watch this. I’m horrified.
@@DenGirl12 I just don't understand, how.could it have been so flippant..."let's bomb kyoto!" "Nooooo it's too pretty!" "How about hiroshima?" "Cool burn it down lol" "what should we bomb next?" "Idk next on the list" "well this town is hard to hit due to cloud cover sooooooo Nagasaki it is"
It doesn't make sense to me, thst this is real. It all happened. And in this midcentury episode of Maury an angel was forced to shake hands with a reluctant demon. I don't understand I just don't understand
This is your life Yoko Ono and we have a very special guest who has traveled a long way to be with you would you please give a warm welcome to Mark Chapman ladies and gentlemen.
@Carsten Greiner But they couldn't be with us tonight and I've forgotten why ;0)
It's so much like that! The applause for the man who ruined the lives of so many people must've hurt so much!
THIS COMMENT HAS ME SCREAMING AHHHAHAHAHAHAH
My mother, born in the late 60’s, still thought Hiroshima was in rubble before she visited me while stationed there. We took her through the peace park museum which wholly contradicts what we Americans are taught in schools. Melting flesh, Firebombing, black rain, none of these words mentioned in our history books. Only a snide remark about how “they would’ve never given up”.
I'm french and that's what my parents (my father being born in 1945 an my mother the same as yours) were taught too. "the japanese would never have give up, it was the only way" "the war would have never end without the bomb" Although in reality they already lost, they nearly had no army left and even the population started to lose faith. The end of the war just came faster and americans showed the world their power. But even now in our history books we don't talk about the consequences of the bombs.
@@kafei-creme après la premiere bombe y'a littéralement eu un coup d'état pour essayer de continuer la guerre, c'est les bombes + l'invasion de l'URSS qui a fini la guerre, mais pour le coup je vais pas pleurer pour ça surtout en sachant que l'armée japonaise continuait a massacrer des civils en Chine
Modern teaching of this is drastically different.
I'm not defending the bomb, but at the time the main army in Manchuria and China hadn't really faced defeat in any way and was ready to be recalled for defense. USA mostly faced the Navy. Also there were units and single soldiers that didn't give up until years or decades after the war. Hiroo Onoda didn't surrender until 1974. The cimment above me even said it themselves, it brought about the end of the war faster.
If I was in his position I honestly don't know what I would have done. To be condescended to, treated like a funny little pet and then to have to relive the worst thing that has ever happened in human history, that you lived through barely a decade ago, all while facing an audience of smiling pale faced freaks and then having to shake hands with the man who killed every single person you ever knew, who opened the gates of hell on top of you, and somehow you find the strength to not scream or cry or claw their fucking eyes out. Rev Tanimoto was a better man than me. I only hope he lived as happy a life as possible with his family and found peace in his faith. What an amazing, brave man. To walk through floods of black rain and storms of fire and to help you fellow human when they are torn and burned and don't even look real anymore is the most Christlike thing I could imagine. RIP
"the worst thing that has ever happened in human history" lmao czcams.com/video/K2wFsu_O490/video.html
The audacity to say "this is the american way" im speechless
But does Hazel Bishop nail polish provide thermo nuclear protection?
I am glad that I am not the only person who feels disgusted by this. For once, it was a relief reading the comments.
It is sickening to watch this poor man meeting the man who dropped that bomb. Also sickening the are the lengths that tv companies will go to to attract viewers. Just awful on every level.
@@eileenlisett5616 Agreed. I can't imagine myself in his situation but I would have cried meeting Lewis for sure.
@@aarushiyadav7101 The Reverend was an extremely brave man, he demonstrated it early in his youth when he stood up to his controlling father in a extremely conformist East Asian society so he could follow his own personal religious beliefs, and proven himself again when he did all he could to help the victims of the bombings and going as far as in his efforts as traveling to a country where a large segment of the population hates him wished that he died (and had literally put people in prison just for looking like him), and reliving all that trauma in this weird tone deaf television broadcast.
What a clown show, and Rev. Tanimoto has more class and character than the whole lot of smiling simpletons who set him up. Hard to even watch, it's so utterly without taste or class.
gee, glad you could make a mockery of Tanimoto's horrific experience and make Captain Lewis look like a total schmuck so you could sell some Hazel Bishop makeup, NBC.
Nothing has changed.
Thank you ever so much for uploading this.
I feel like This is Your Life was the forerunner of the Jerry Springer/Maury/Phil Donahue generation of "trash television" that became prevalent in the early 1980s - Ralph Edwards feigned ignorance about the inappropriateness of basically sabotaging his guests, pulling them out of the audience and making them relive uncomfortable episodes in their lives, but privately told his staff if they ever tried the stunt with him he'd have them fired. I agree with those who have find his style of questioning to be tone-deaf, grating, and insensitive. That's evident in this vid, as well as the Hannah Bloch Kohner episode discussing her surviving the Holocaust and his infamous Frances Farmer debacle, where you can clearly see both guests withholding tears at various points, where he casually forces them to rethink outright terrifying parts of their lives on live television.
My stepfather was an atty and was representing a client on a statutory rape charge (she was like 14 and he was 20.. and this was in KY in a Trailer park) he and his clients were brought onto the show..(Sally Jesse Raphael). They had a kid together and everything. ANyway. while backstage.. one of the "guests" was a celebrity therapist that managed to get them alone and probably told them and got their confidence.. (they were very naive quite honestly.. and My stepfather wasn't around.. of course.. they were getting their makeup on) anyway.. the woman therapist teased out some information that she didn't indicate she would share.. but during the show.. she sprung this information that they thought they were sharing with a real therapist and she only did it to be sensational and get ratings). It was kind of sad.. cause they were trying to stay together to raise their kid and her father wanted to put him in Jail.. There was only a 6 year differnce and they lived in a very rural area.. (so quit judging) but what this therapist did was atrocious and exploitative.. instead of helping she only did it to be sensational.. barf
This show is freaking nuts. The host is just talking at this guy about the most traumatic experience of his life that occurred only a few years before like he's a cartoon character in a fantasy story. I feel bad for both Rev. Tanimoto and pilot Lewis. You can tell Tanimoto is in shock and working through so many emotions, I can't even imagine what he is going through there. No one should ne subjected to that. And Lewis looks shaken too to be looking in the eyes of a man from the city he watched get destroyed by his action. Lewis was following orders and his immediate reaction to what he witnessed suggests to me he experienced his own form of trauma that day. Say what you want about Lewis, but both of these men are human beings with complex emotions and it breaks my heart that these producers and host subjected them to this for the sake of "entertainment". Really insane
My natural instinct was to start skipping through the in show advertisements but I had to go back because it adds to the jarring and unsettling nature of this program. The second hand embarrassment I feel for all parties involved is unbearable, and certainly for different reasons when it comes to the host and producers of the show versus Reverend Tanimoto and his family. The solemnity of Robert Lewis is the only reasonable part of this dark program.
This might be the first ever cringe video
Very much so.
I can’t believe this clip hasn’t been viewed by millions of people. It’s truly astonishing to watch. Even those unsympathetic to the Japanese in WWIi would probably agree this is all kinds of f&cked up.
they would just execute them on sight if the imperial japanese were in the reverse position. Then play soccer with his head.
@@nullakjg767yes, after they hired all the evil American scientists and welcomed them into the Japanese equivalent of the CIA
@@nullakjg767 some were indeed monsters (unit 731) but it still doesn't make it okay to obliterate their civilians.
It's not black and white.
'those unsympathetic to the Japanese in WWII' isn't that just about everyone in the world?
@@Agent13226 They werent citizens... imperial japan was ordering every citizen to resist to the last. Their own govt declared every one in their nation a combatant.
What a shame! Even from that time, media was of no humanity at all!
Viewers were furious when this episode aired.
I recommend Rodney Barker’s nonfiction book "The Hiroshima Maidens" (1985), which opens with an account of this particular TV episode and also goes on to say how it was received by the American public and newspaper columnists. It's important to realize that Rev. Tanimoto's appearance on this show was a means to an end: he wanted to raise support for the reconstructive surgery of the Hiroshima Maidens.
Thank you for this recommendation, as I'm collecting what I can, since I visited Tanimoto in June 1963 (with my family as he was a friend of my fathers) plus we have met some of the Hiroshima Maidens.
You're quite welcome. You might also wish to flick through Canadian novelist Dennis Bock's "The Ash Garden" (2001) if you haven't done so already, though some readers were a trifle irritated that the author made no mention of Nagasaki in his work (a perennial problem, as you are no doubt aware). Still, it's a good read and it includes a section that re-imagines the "This is Your Life" episode. To the best of my knowledge, it is the only anglophone work of fiction to have done so (please inform me if I am mistaken about this).
You can agree that it's a dick move to do this though. He thought it was going to be an interview.
Last Podcast on the Left brought me here.
A very good dramatization of the bombing of Hiroshima, from a Japanese perspective, is the anime movie Barefoot Gen (although the original manga is more comprehensive).
The manga was written and drawn by the man who was the boy (Gen) whom the manga revolves around.
It shows what life was like for he and his family, in the days leading up to the bombing; exactly what they experienced as the bomb fell; and their struggle to survive afterward.
Another good movie about it is the original Godzilla movie (also created by a Hiroshima survivor).
Godzilla was created to be a metaphor for the atomic bomb (his skin designed to look like the skin of the burn victims of the radioactive blast, and the scene of the top of his head, rising into thee sky, was supposed to look like the shape of a mushroom cloud.
Barefoot Gen's author was himself a survivor of Hiroshima (and the long term damage of the radiation from the bombs would cost him his sight later in life)
Grave of the Fireflies - most devastating movie I've ever seen
@@maryjanedodo That's about the firebombing of Tokyo. Horrific but if you haven't seen it, you should watch that barefoot gen. The scene is horrific.
I found Nakazawa's original comic, titled I Was There. It's a bit simpler in real life, he didn't watch his father/siblings burn, and he didn't deliver his mother's baby. The Korean neighbor was fictional, as was Ryuta. But Barefoot Gen is still a great book. It should be required reading for high schoolers.
This is unreal... What possessed anyone to think this was a good idea? If I hadn't seen this footage I wouldn't have believed it. "Our heartfelt thanks to our sponsors who didn't was us to interrupt the agony..." Inhuman is the closest I can get to describing this.
LPOTL brought me here and it’s true what they said. Truly disgusting and disrespectful what they did to him here. And how they undercut the seriousness of the topic with beauty products is absolutely despicable. My heart breaks seeing the pain in his eyes.
Last podcast anyone?
Hail yourself!
This is beyond Fallout-style satire. But its real..
This broadcast makes the America of Fallout look dignified and mature. This is like a dark version of the Truman show's satire of consumerism in reality television.
هنا بعد قراءة كتاب (هيروشيما) لجون هيرسي ترجمة عبدالله العجيري..
fed erer نفسي
أنا كذلك
fed erer
للتو أنهيته :)
fed erer للتؤ قد انتهيت من قراءتة 👌🏻😃
👍🏽
I've let the last podcast boys take me down a lot of weird roads and paths and holes this is quite possibly the hardest to watch thing I've ever heard about do that about the lack of humanity or the facade of humanity in this really really really sticks to me and makes me incredibly f****** icky
Same here. When they told they had the pilot who dropped the bomb on this man's city I had to pause and look it up
Same, had to look this up in utter disbelief.
What an utter lack of humanity and respect for this man and the unimaginable ordeal he had been through.
This is like something from a nightmare, unsettlingly dystopian
Please y'all notice like earlier in the episode they totally like are talking about that day and Hiroshima and they literally played bomb Sirens like the like raid sirens. Like they not know what PTSD was back then they put that man through so much he was so respectful and he tried to keep his composure so well. That was an atrocity
Usually the boys exaggerate some of the reactions on the people, but not this time the Reverend is fuckin terrified and is looking at that pilot like a he’s a monster. And the pilot is obviously haunted by what he did, this was incredibly shitty of this show to do
@@andrewevans158t was called shell shock back then
Forcing American consumerism into a story about a man who’s life was permanently changed by the first use of an atomic bomb in anger is disgusting.
Welcome PTSD TV brought to you by Hazel Bishop.
Last Podcast on the Left brought me here. Can't believe this is true
Wow. From the 15 minute mark you meet the guy who helped drop the bomb on Hiroshima. Look carefully at Mr. Tanimoto's expression. He's also the first to give a contribution to the cause which brought them there.
+Steven Santos I have to ask what's your thoughts on Dresden
I'm only liking it so I can find it easier. I hate what they did to him. Which is why its important to not let this get swept under the rug. So that people don't replicate how insensitive and morally wrong this is.
One of the rare occasions when Ralph Edwards told the guest of honor in advance, instead of surprising them.
The audience clapping when the captain entered, and the "ta daaa" sound/music is really apalling
This is fucking creepy and exploitative as fuck. Very American. Thoughtless, cheap, mindless, emotionless, easy. And yes, I'm American.
This is really really gross, the fact that the producers of this show would think to push US consumer commercials in the midst of such a heartbreaking, tragic story is disrespectful and completely tone-deaf. Not to mention the condescending tone of the interviewer, he entirely removed Tanimoto's autonomy to speak for himself, and chose to dictate his story as he chose fit, often to the very evident dismay of Tanimoto as he relived what were possibly some of the darkest, most painful moments of his life. He and his entire family are displayed here not as people, but as a spectacle for the audience to gawk at as they watch him meet the man who ended the lives of 140,000 innocent people. And in the most American fashion, they see fit to give them consumer gifts and materials as gesture of good grace as if they heal the the wounds that were likely reopened by this entire half hour ordeal.
Omg you said what exactly in my heart best, this whole deal was so massively inappropriate and sickening
Kiyoshi has very sad eyes :(
People think things like the Jersey Shore and The Kardashians is bad tv.... this is despicable.
+Trevor Bass Why? because he was trying to raise awareness for the Hiroshima maidens?
5🌟 for comparing this classic episode with those 2 phoney shows. You are class apart man.
By the way, it takes balls to come on live television and accept the truth. Salute to Robert A Lewis for being honest.
May these people and their story live forever as a reminder of what we can do to and for eachother.
American television has always been absolutely f*cking morally reprehensible.
count down 1945 brought me here. Kiyoshi Tanimoto a man of God and family, I know he has passed but i would like to say, the world is a better place because you were in it.
i was writing a research paper about the Manhattan project and i saw a paragraph about Robert Lewis and Tanimoto on this show so i decided to look it up.
英語の課題でこの動画見たけど、他の人が言ってる通りクソほど気分が悪い。日本文化ってものを消費する態度も友好を強いる演出も。戦争で日本がしたことも他国がしたことも習って覚えてるけど、正当に怒ってくれる人がコメント欄にいて安心した。
I’ve watched this video for my English class text, and this sucks as others commented. The way how they consume Japanese culture, and they way how they force Mr. Tanimoto to show friendship of US-Japan. I couldn’t watch the screen straight. I’ve learned and remember what Japan or other countries done in that war, but I somehow relieved that there’re people properly show anger here.
أتيت من ترجمة المهندس صالح العجيري لكتاب هيروشيما ✌️🙃
وانا مثلك🙃
@@dodojj3823 بالتوفيق ❤️❤️
Not trying to be political here, but it's interesting how this is presented as not too serious and something to be entertained by, but when the threat was on the United States in the 1960s, the media presented the _threat_ of a Soviet nuclear attack as absolutely evil and horrifying. Makes you wonder how nuclear attacks would be presented today if the cold war didn't happen.
Dude I don’t know why you trying to be political war started because of politics.
People are so afraid to be political that they say "i dont want to be political"........in a even DIRECTLY caused by a major political event.
Christ, if discussing about our soroundings is "political",ill be political all i want
@@dream-lh4pc You’re right. When I wrote this people were calling anyone who criticised this interview anti-American.
Who is coming because HIROSHIMA’s book for John Hersey?
I had to put the book down to look for this
it’s like if aliens interviewed a human
I wonder how much Lewis got from this. His family certainly didn't mind exploiting the horrific tragedy by selling multiple copies of the notes he took during the Enola Gay.
(هيروشيما، للشيخ عبدالله العجيري، ص٢٧٣)
تمنيت لو انه مترجم للعربية
تعال تترجم
أنا هنا بسبب الكتاب :)
Oh my god this heart breaking, awful, I’m 6 mins through and I can’t proceed to watch. It’s ugly I feel like crying. The amount of emotions they put this poor man through, is just horrendous.
The poor guy came for an honorable cause to help the victims of the bomb, only to be used as an amusement for this so called entertainment f* show. I hate humanity.
"Welcome back to the United States! You ready to get traumatized by being exposed to and reminded of your horrifying past that we caused?"
I just have to note how much I object to this. This is a horrible spectacle, but a worse spectacle is the desire to turn Robert Lewis into a monster. The myth of Robert Lewis being 'drunk' for this appearance came from a producer of this awful spectacle. He doesn't seem drunk, he speaks clearly and distinctly, his rubbing of his brow is clearly out of anguish (not out of drunkenness) and when he immediately walks off stage it is because of emotion, not to pound a few. Even the producer's story (as told in 'Hiroshima') makes no sense: a cup of coffee does not make a drunk man sober.
Agree. Lewis was definitely not a monster and many of the pilots had very complicated feelings about the whole thing. Lewis was one of the very few who actually showed remorse
Opportunist Americans acting so fake and condescending toward these people who suffered.
"My god what have we done?" You can hear the pain in that man's voice.
All I can say is thank heaven he had his support system here he's going to need it after this is over. Those who read about him did any of his family understand English? Or were they ignorant of what was going on? (Not sure which would be worse) If so I think that would be very hard being the only one who knows what thier saying and taking it (grimace and bear it) to help people.
No matter what you say, Robert Lewis appeared, despite being drunk, to have more humanity than Paul Tibbets, who talked of the flight as if it were a Sunday joy flight and, according to some, was suppressing deep guilt, yet expressed no remorse or regret for what happened.
Hard to judge fairly. At the time the bomb was dropped, it was considered the most humane way to end the war. Estimates of American deaths to invade Japan's mainland were in the millions and 10 times that for the Japanese. War is hell that most of us will never understand, thankfully.
@@gordonshumway5653 ... all lies ...
It's 2020, we have the declassified Intel.
Hell, this was debunked by Generals and State Dept staff in the 50s.
I'll offer a real defense for the crew.
Only a very few knew what a nuclear bomb was when that plane took off.
Even fewer had any conception of the damage it would do to a city. And that information was highly classified and kept secret.
General LeMay and President Truman did this.
Not the schmucks who were given orders to fly out there and press the button. There's no way they could know.
I'm not surprised Robert Lewis became a drunkard, or that Paul Tibbets callously steeled his heart ... these are things that happened afterwards, not before.
Why does the Media and Government make an ignorant crew the focus of these events ?? Why is it Robert Lewis here halfheartedly offering apology while Truman and LeMay sat at home living high off the hog.
@@gordonshumway5653doesn't excuse Nagasaki
You can see at 17:50 he's clearly annoyed at Edwards' line of questioning and his answer honestly made me tear up
من دقائق معدودة قد اتممت قراءة كتاب هيروشما -جون هيرسي ترجمة المهندس الفاضل عبدالله العجيري,
بعد انتهاء الكتاب اعدت قراءة العبارة التي كتبتها علي اول صفحة للكتاب وهي للسفير الروماني السابق في فرنسا والتي قالها للشيخ مصطفي السباعي ,قال له"ان لكل امة خلقا تعرف به وان خلق الاوربيين النفاق في ادعاء الرحمة" وهم كذلك بالفعل.
ثم استغربت من اليابانيين كون لم تظهر عندهم حركة مسلحة ضد الوجود الامريكي بل بالعكس فلقد تأمركوا!!
واخيرا حزنت لتخلفنا نحن المسلمين عن قيادة العالم,وكم خسرنا بل وخسر العالم اجمع بهذا الضعف الذي نعيشة,مع الامل في نهضة اسلامية قريبا باذن الله عاجلا غير اجل مبنية علي العمل لا الأماني
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أوروبا ليست دولة. إنها قارة تضم العديد من الدول. لقد ارتكبت الدول الناطقة بالعربية نصيبها العادل من الفظائع ، تمامًا كما فعلت اليابان والولايات المتحدة والعديد من الدول القوية الأخرى ، وكل من هذه الدول لديها الكثير لتعتذر عنه. أدرج بلدي ، أمريكا ، في ذلك وأنا آسف على الخيارات المؤذية والعنيفة التي اتخذناها في الماضي. المسلمون ليسوا أسمى من أي شخص ، ولا هم أناس من أي دين آخر. الأمل في المستقبل هو الاحترام المتبادل والحب واستخدام القوة من أجل الخير وليس الشر.
تعا رد على الاخ
Oh…1950's US television didn't care about those who suffered from the atomic attack in Hiroshima...
Well the viewers cared which is why after this episode aired they got a shit ton of angry letters. This episode wasn't a product of its' time; the host was just being a grade A douchebag.
Very strange indeed.
17:50 For historical accuracy, what Bob Lewis actually said after the bomb drop was, "My God, look at that son-of-a-bitch go!"
I would’ve walked out if I were tanimoto
He was focused on a PR campaign to raise funds for bomb victims and children who needed plastic surgery. His cause was much larger than his personal ego. He did the right thing for those he was helping.
Well, we know who the bigger person here is.
This attempt to package the horror of the atomic bombings for an American audience was probably the only way to get the message across at the time - I can imagine that when this show aired, a significant proportion of the viewing audience still imagined Japan as "the other" or worse, and even trying to explain this horrible event from a Japanese view needed the validation of a perspective from the US side. I'm still trying to get through this video, but those of an important part of history, for all its flaws.
But I think this also shows something that has not changed even today - even with social media and the ability to share information far more quickly and widely: Many if not most people still can't or won't stop to process what they're seeing, really try to understand it, unless they get validation from someone more like them. And with social media few people even so long enough to think about context. I think that if the same situation happened today, even with social media, there'd still be as little real understanding as there was back then. It might even be worse, the way things get distorted.
Just FWIW, in Japan, this pilot is still mentioned for the remorse that he showed for the rest of his life. When I visited Hiroshima, in the park along the river near the ruined dome I heard one of the guides, from a group who has made it their mission to preserve the stories of survivors, mention this pilot and what he did to try and make amends. it contrasts to how the other pilot viewed his role.
This is literally heartbreaking
14:42 Is where he meets the man you dropped the bomb.
This is so utterly heartbreakingly repulsive.
That was......interesting body language.
Wow. That was hard to watch. An embarrassment. The tone is completely off.
Poor guy. He really held up throughout that. God bless him.
This is why dystopia stuff like Hungar Games (the superficial society not caring about life or people etc) is so chilling to me.
Its not so much a warning as it had already happened in some ways its to make sure it doesn't get worse. I get the same chilling heart sinking to my toes feeling in this. The worst part is this is real.
توي مخلص كتاب هيروشيما و احب اقول يا بجح منسقين البرنامج ، فيه احد صاحي يخلي احد ضحايا التفجير يقابل اللي ملقي القنبلة ؟؟؟ وش هالسخف و قلة الذوق و عدم مراعاة المشاعر ، حتى مكتوب بالكتاب ان لويس(ملقي القنبلة) كان سكران يوم يجي للبرنامج و ان المشاهدين يحسبون عيونه دمعت حسرة على القنبلة و هو اصلا مصدع ، وساعة و بجاحة وجه بالمقدم لا تحتمل ، يا ساتر يا رب
شي مررههه يحزن يوم شفت تانيموتو كيف وجهه يوم قالو الضيف هو ملقي القنبله 💔
مثلك والله، خلصت الكتاب الذي ترجمه العجيري وجيت هنا 😕
يقتلوا القتيل ويمشوا في جنازته ما أبجحكم من قوم.
Keep it classy, America
"Mr Tanimoto is here to tell us about the terrible atomic bomb. But first ladies check this great nail polish."
(w/ respect to essays in humean trafficking under the color of polity, often parliamentary decree, other than those devoted to prosecution of that which would be whitewashed if described as slavehunting south of 54’40 inclusive of for example 219,000: even should one ignore what might seem customary appeals to deny the existence of 114:06 ("she's going to" validating what she has already done, "again" and "again" = 3) one might ask if we hope you have some pleasant moments is animated by an essay to reprise in micro ("this time") a concession agreement with another capitulation regime under the color of burlingame ("working for weeks" even if but to drop the watercolor "members of our state department", in this instance a subject's likeness being impressed in service of "medical aid" for those "maidens" in hiroshima and nagasaki subject to "research" and "who will never know a normal happy life without immediate medical ... help" to "regain the beauty that might have been lost") given that it is suggested the invitee was baited ("you thought of course you were going to be interviewed" in conjunction with the "many ... who have helped shape your destiny" at not even a few thousand seconds using the ruse that he could organize reconstructive medical procedures among those already subject to crimes against the peace) to participate in an advertizement for hazel bishop and "eternity which comes in one way or another to every man in his lifetime", love, لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله)
America has Main Character Syndrome. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
Last podcast brought me here, and it was worse then they described
This is disgusting. Grin and bear it for the sake of some concocted entertainment production.
He looks scared of him at 16:52
This is an embarrassment!
أثناء قراءة الصفحات الاخيرة من رواية هيروشيما بترجمة عبداللّٰه العجيري وبشيء من الفضول بحثت عن المقابلة
This makes me very uncomfortable
I feel so bad for them... Tanimoto and Lewis both.
I can't fucking the producers had the absolute shameless gall to greenlight this kind of interaction. Kiyoshi must have been holding every fiber of his being from not just breaking down emotionally, but throttling the man who blew up his home, killing over 100k of his people in a second, into a pulp. Unreal.
I’ve seen the condescension in the first 3min, & reading through the comments is enough to tell me all I need to know: I can’t watch any more of this.
ماذا لو كان المسلمون يمتلكون القنبلة الذرية؟؟ سؤال للتأمل..
مين جاي من كتاب 6 ناجين من هيروشيما ؟؟؟
Sometimes I really really really really really really hate my country. One million Jimi Hendrixes and Abraham Lincolns and a billion Mark Twains and every other arguably positive thing from my home country that makes my heart swell with pride to call myself American….canNOT eclipse the evil represented in not only the death and destruction, but the ghoulishly crass culture that would program a show like this. I’m literally sick to my stomach. It would take literally 50 911s to even match the death count.
@@ltipst2962he clearly expressed his hate towards two particular moments in history, nothing more, what's the issue?
@@chuck600 that's not what he did. "Sometimes I really really hate my country" comparing two completely unrelated events. Can you explain his inclusion of 9/11 in this comment? To note: I didn't originally see his "sometimes" so I'll remove the comments but I really find it hard , well I cannot find a country that has not got times in history of disgusting acts and to brow beat other Americans (not I) about their own history is just the lowest form , in my opinion.
@@ltipst2962 "Sometimes I hate X" is a way of expressing mixed feelings about something that has both great and terrible aspects. OP simply measured the death count in 9/11's, it doesn't mean he wants 100 planes to collide with skyscrapers
@@chuck600 I understand, sorry but in regards to the 9/11 I believe it was used to compare how we all acted when that happened and how that is nothing compared to an atom bomb, which is a completely silly and quite unfounded take. Why else mention it? Mixed feelings sure but beating yourself and others down even further for something you had no control over is not beneficial to Japan or Americans - thats my take. I do not approve of the farming of likes by parading your country as some form of devil, especially when next to Japan when in context of world war 2. We have to thank America in other sides of the world for very good reason and they should be proud of their ancestors who died so he could make such a poor comment.