I blame KD for not doing enough to convince James Harden to stay - Bucher I NFL I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- James Harden is heading to Philadelphia after the blockbuster trade that sent Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummond and two first-round picks to the Brooklyn Nets. Kevin Durant said he was quote: 'happy we got guys who want to be a part of this.' Last night, he had several chances to put Harden on his All-Star Game roster but ended up finalizing it with Rudy Gobert. Marcellus Wiley, Emmanuel Acho and Ric Bucher debate how much of Harden's exit falls on KD.
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Marcel, Kyrie not in bubble, went sabbatical then part time.. Who'll play with that.
Slick Rick killed this take 😂😂
Slick rick: "its your fault i punched you!" "you shoulda known i'd punch you!" "i punched the last 3 people why would i not punch you?"
Slick rick need some therapy if he think this logic checks out
And on Cell relationship. You know what was coming, you just didn't want to believe it🤣🤣🤣
You know, the more I think about it, I think Harden wanted to be in Philly initially. But rockets weren't trying to give him to daryl Morey. I'm a Sixers fan because we would have had to give up Maxey last season, now we get him just giving up curry and Drummond. Still kept our good young stars.
that's true.
I agree ☝🏽 Rs I think that’s it
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Yes sir!
Facts he wanted to be there in philly when he was still in houston.
That was a really good segment. All around good talk. 😅😂🤣
Love this crew of guys, love whenever they bring in Rick, or Greg, or Joy and even Mark Sanchez. Best sports talk show, eva!
Joy really?
Joy really?
Nah it’s undisputed first ! This the lil brother 🤣 great show tho
💯
@@jimmydean5663 joy is very knowledgeable and entertaining imo
If Harden's mind was made up there was nothing KD could do about it.
Yup and that's why I like Marcellus' relationship example. When your in a troubled relationship with someone, there's no way to work things out if their mind is elsewhere and captured by someone else.
Exactly. Grown men actions.
Kyrie playing part time was a deal breaker
No bubble Kyrie went on sabbatical then now part time.. No way to play with that.
@@semi5alpha You can have the cake. But you cant eat it.
The personal references and experiences are what make this show fantastic!
Facts
Yeah that Marcellus, n acho combo crucial
Bucher walked Marcellus into a pole at the end lmao.
He didn’t Marcellus point still stands it only takes one
@@cjsparringmatches4893 when ppl say it takes 2 to tango most ppl feel like it has to be an equivalent when it doesn’t. Like Slick Ric said, Wiley ignored the signs plus he was blinded by love on top of that.
It still takes 2 to tango and his action was taking a chance.
@@cjsparringmatches4893 that maybe true in certain cases but in Marcellus' case.
Slick rick is right. If you knew something was up, u have a fault/blame/ responsibility in that. cuz u allowed it, Continued with it.
Yeah that other person may have done something to break it up or w.e but if you know better, then take the L on the chin cuz that's what you deserve cuz you could of gotten out of there to avoid that mess and pain.
@@lspr215 but the point is it only takes one person to end a relationship no matter if there are signs before hand or not
@@cjsparringmatches4893 But it still and always will...take two to tango...that's how relationships work
I’ve never laughed so hard 😂😹
Ric's take on Wiley was so ruthless. Best ever. Love this show.
That exchange was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You act like he's supposed to beg James harden to stay James harden is chasing a championship Durant has already got two and rings & two MVPs so he ain't chasing nothing James harden is the One chasing rings...
I mean he begged him to come to Brooklyn 😂
Harden was going to leave all along. he was only gonna stay in Brooklyn for two years to get a championship when he realized that there was no chance of getting a championship this year he bailed out. He was Going to Philly next season even if he won.
Wiley had me on the floor!!!😂😂😂😂
Give this men the sports emi yesterday!!
So talented and entertaining these 3 geniuses
Slick Rick came with that 🔥 at the end
I always said, KD could have kept that OKC team together. He didn’t say anything in OKC. As a result, It allowed James Harden to be traded. He didn’t say anything this time around. James Harden was traded.
OKC should have won about 3-4 titles by now.
Still curious how Sam Presti still has a job. 🤔
Sam Presti is one of the better GMs in the NBA when it comes to drafting and eyeing talent. Also Harden declined the deal and took the Rockets offer lol that ain't Sam's fault bruh.
@@GodbodyRoku There is no way to justify having 3 MVPs on your Roster and having no titles to show for it. It was a poor decision to pay Ibaka before Harden. Also, there were other moves the Thunder could have made to keep Harden on a Thunder uniform.
Thanks to Presti, the Warriors and Spurs were winning titles that should have been going to OKC.
@@Jroddxilla Spurs are a good organization. You acting like all three were in MVP mode when they played together lol.
@@GodbodyRoku You are right, I would take it a step further. I think the Spurs are an amazing organization.
At the Age of 23, the Thunder bounced the Spurs in 6 games and eliminated them on their home floor. Everyone knew the Thunder had an amazing run ahead of them.
The Spurs were no match for OKC. Russ, Harden and KD were too talented and skilled for for any team in the Conference. The scary part, they were just scratching the surface of what they were going to eventually become.
However, it was the last time we would see those 3 guys play together.
The trade of Harden sent shockwaves through the NBA. Kobe Bryant even said he didn’t see how anyone was going to beat them going forward.
K.D. is not a leader. It’s just that simple. Talent is not an equitable replacement for leadership.
@X Harden may use any excuse, but imagine being on a team where one of your best players uses excuse after excuse not to play.
Kyrie has the lion share of blame. But, at least he didn’t get vaccinated.
@X all 3 of 'em (including Kyrie) are a bunch of b*tches... NBA is so soft now a days
Shut up … you just don’t watch basketball 🏀 this statement has been dealt with
KD hasn’t played in a month and he’s getting all of this unwarranted slander lmfao y’all are sick miserable people
Everybody knows kd isn’t leader. He doesn’t want to be the leader; he’s said this before.
So KD have to convince a grown man to stay?
If he wanted to win a championship with Harden, then yes.
@@dilly70533 if Harden don't want to play with him than no need for him to try to convince him
Harden better hope Brooklyn don't win without him cause that's gonna hang over his head forever if he never win a Ring
Exactly
@@Stonecoldalston I blame NYC Mayor Eric Adams...
@@azac9627 I wouldn't blame Adam's because he just because Mayor and it was termoil before that
Kyrie left LBJ and Boston.
KD left OKC and GSW.
Harden left OKC, Houston and now Bk.
Who here is surprised that this happened.
Difference is KD and Kyrie left with rings.
Not surprised at all, other than it didn't happen last season. This was so predictable. smh
Also, KD was a free agent for both of those team! Harden was NOT a free agent and he quit on Houston and Brooklyn! Big difference!
harden was traded from okc he had no choice the first time
The difference is Harden wasnt a free agent when helot Houston and Brooklyn he forced his way out.
Love Ric. He’s always spitting whenever he’s on the show lol.
LoL slick got this one today
Harden wants a ring… KD n Kyrie got their and Kyrie playing half the tyme and in his own world. Harden ain’t leave HTX to carry this load when it’s supposed to be 3 super stars. I’m not mad at him…
Ky was no bubble then sabbatical then part time.. Fook that..
Harden’s playoffs play is not good.
Harden actually came over on his own and tried to get a cheap ring last year, and then dip to Philly anyway. KD and Kyrie didn’t include him in there plans to go to BK, they really didn’t need him at all, he seen them building a monster and tried to slide in so he can be a champion. Levert, Jarrett Allen and draft picks is what he costed BK, he gone go to Philly and frustrate Embiid with all that iso ball and predictable game
@@quanmuhammad1146 Harden was not included in Bkn? Ehe yah that's why Kd forced Marks to give all the good players to have JH there..
I didn't hear kd complaining when both kyrie and harden got hurt was basically carrying the nets through that bucks series
Great Show I truly admire Wiley from the first time I witnessed him on other shows and partner up with others I seen him as a class act! Best thing since the TNT Crew!
These three are great and humorous together. 😂
“ you were hoping the signs weren’t really signs”
💯 truth
Or you could blame James for leaving.. That's just me
Nah. Kyrie not in bubble, went sabbatical then part time.. Fook that.
I blame NYC Mayor Eric Adams...
Have to admit - this trio is A+++
Slick Rick is a savage lol
Ric Bucher is right up there with Skip Bayless in terms of idiotic takes
Nah you just disagree and that’s fine
Usually, but he’s spot on here
Times get tough for harden and he just quits even when he has kyrie playing he quits. Kd played w 4 rookies on the floor and was playing 1 on 5 and he never complained once he never quit on the team and looked disinterested
Harden has been playing with rookies by himself all season and had a winning record. That's a bad example
@@EhhSenpai wtf??? When? Kd played with rookies and patty, and went 3-0 james harden had been losing games for weeks now
@@EhhSenpai all season? KD got hurt not even a full month ago and was atop the mvp candidates and leading the league in scoring.
@@EhhSenpai you ain’t getting my point . I’m saying kd played w 4 rookies when harden was injured but now KD injured he don’t wanna play and he also had kyrie for these games
@@saadsalman2261 he got your point. He even made up a lie to counter your point aahhaha
Less is more. This trade is being over analyzed. James Harden came to Brooklyn with certain expectations. Unfortunately for a few reasons it didn't work out. OK James Harden wanted to move on. So be it. Now its time to turn the page and move on.
Its ultimately Kyrie's fault that J Harden got or wanted to be traded. We saw how good the 3 was last year, when everyone was committed and healthy. Why blame KD? James is a grown man, he made a grown man decision. Right or wrong.
Y'all gotta do your research Harden was planning to leave before the season started & mandate was put into place its easy to follow the narrative but articles by the people that were involved the trade have said he was never going to stay ... I guess most people are lazy or can't read
Nets the hype was out there earlier this season of them winning the eastern conference. The hype was still there with Kyrie playing only part time. The Simmons should recover quickly from his mental health issues he was having with the 76ers. Harden hamstring problems should dissipate now he is no longer with the Nets.
If KD said I’ll be back after the all star game. That didn’t mean go ahead James go to the team you really wanted to be on before trade deadline..all that been said KD said that for reinsuring James without begging to much for him to stay..I wanted Ben anyway for this new bucks team in the making
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣who says they want no jumper ben 🤣🤣🤣you weird asf
@@fresh2def23231 He's now on a team where he doesnt need to shoot a single jumper.
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 Yea I watched every game of his & keep hearing that. Remember that playoff time he don't gotta shoot one.
LMAO!!! I wonder how Wiley's wife feels about him always talking about his exes. HAHAHAHA
Harden is like Aaron Rodgers. Both Regular season MVPs, both Divas, and both cant do sht in the postseason.
He gotta win a title to be compared to him
Aaron got a ring what you talking about😂
@@justdoit_s.i.i.e6268 exactly mfer tweaking lol
Nah. Kyrie not in bubble, went sabbatical then part time.. Fook that.
Sad commentary on today's society that a guy who quit on the team (second time he's done this) and you're going to point fingers and say someone else didn't do enough to convince him to stay.
I don't really think KD is the one to blame but I also this he's part of the chaos to an extent even if he didn't intend to be...being injured a lot and the kyrie being kyrie...asking Harden to be ready all the time while saying hey kyrie you good for half the games? That would rub me the wrong way and I'd want out too...now that said I would be a pro and leave after the season
I don't think anyone is exonerating Harden or saying he's free of blame. I /do/ think that Durant has more responsibility for this than "well, if he doesn't want to be here..." Durant recruited him and convinced the Nets to acquire him. He knew what Harden was -- a very talented, temperamental athlete (Kyrie is similar -- must be Durant's type). Anyhow, Durant wanted to do the LeBron thing and build his own team. He succeeded in pulling them all onto one squad. But having done that, he bears some responsibility for doing whatever he can to make it work.
I'd love to hear Durant honestly talk about his decision to leave the Warriors and what he thinks now. We'll never get that take. But it would be fascinating.
@Free T CP3 is one of the BEST leaders in the league & couldn’t work with Harden, can you stop?
@Free T Like I said, scapegoating KD for Harden quitting... again
Amazing segment 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😭😭😭
Loved this conversation 😂
FINALLY, someone is giving kd that LEBRON JAMES energy. If you're the best in the world to some, we should CRITIQUE you as such bro
I’m starting to see why black athletes feel like the media lives just to criticize them. Are they literally sitting here throwing dirt on kds name for another grown mans decision. And keep in mind we literally just saw him do the same thing with another team that kd did not play for
Basically
I’ve NEVER heard of the OKC trade of Harden being portrayed as Harden quitting on OKC because he wanted a Max contract! WOW!
Not to mention the Thunder traded James Harden to Houston when Sam Presti gave him a one-hour ultimatum to accept a deal.
Slick killed that....Got'em
Y'all funny asf 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂 Did Slick just drop knowledge!! 😂😂
If James harden was in shape and a better playoff performer he wouldn’t be leaving we’ve seen this before with him
Great segment.
I have to disagree with Rick saying Harden quit the thunder. OKC didn't want to give him what he was worth. I don't think harden really quit on the Nets. He has been having a down season considering his usual in standards before kd got injured. If KD and kyrie were playing I don't think he would have been upset, and if the Nets decided to keep him, I think he would have continued to play to the current season started. I mean didn't he put up like a 30 point triple double against the Lakers like just last week or so?
“Bengals gon’ treat you like my ex did.” 🤣 = perfect close to that segment
Goes back to what I always say:
Just because you have great skills as a player doesn’t mean you have great skills as a leader.
There are levels to this…
💀💀💀💀💀THIS IS GOLDEN!!!!!!!!! GREAT WORK!!!!!!!!!
Why are they saying Harden quit on the Rockets. Bruh that roster was trash and teams in the west were ascending still.
Harden is a grown man who wanted out. How is any of this on KD?
No need for a comment... you said it right!
Bingo. Smh
So why yall blame lebron for kyrie leaving?
@@dparks2856 right people change the narrative Everytime it comes to KD! But oh when players leave LBJ, they blame lbj
@@bishopbad373 Gettem
Ric killed this one, he was on fire!!!
You definitely bounce on a cat that won't get vaccinated and can only play in half of his games 😂
Yeah, I can totally see that. That shows a total lack of commitment. I don't see what KD did wrong though.
I agree with Acho that James Harden is a grown as man and KD should not have to convince a player that does not want to be there and i really think the Nets won this trade.
This is next level stuff right here!! Slick Rick was in his bag!!
Good gawd!! I love this show! They had me cracking up.
You guys have a fantastic show! WHO DEY NATION STAND UP!
omg that was soooooo good. Great Job.
Realest & funniest one in a long time
"SHARED RESPONSIBILITY"(BLAME).....That's the term to describe why Harden bounced. They all played a part but ULTIMATELY it was Harden's choice to do what he's done. Colin Cowherd made valid points about KD.
He's quirky and not really a strong leader.
I think Harden wanted them to reach out more and they wanted Harden to want to fight for the relationship more.
How much did those guys make up their minds to sit in a room and work it out? Like really, did they ever just talk??? If so, how much?? Not enough. IMO
The relationship could've been saved if all parties fought for it more. *DRAIN SOUNDS FROM CHAMPIONSHIPS GOING DOWN*......SMDH!!!
love this arguments today hahaha
The last minute had me cackling
I love the play with sljck amf the crew lol
I love when Slick Rick and Mark Sanchez are on the show
KD couldn’t convince Kyrie to get vaccinated. Kyrie playing part time is psychologically draining to the team. It’s better for him not to play at all. James harden knows he’s getting older and wants a ring. He’s not going to waste time! Kyrie not getting vaccinated was the issue.
I blame NYC Mayor Eric Adams...
I blame NETS ORGANIZATION. Giving away Taurean PRINCE, Cars LeVert, Jarret Allen, Letting Spencer Dinwiddle to leave For this BUM Harding. They had a championship team before Harding got here!
Kyrie not in bubble, went sabbatical then part time.. Fook that.
Acho pulling out that tissue got me weak 😂😂
Mannnn acho is a really smart guy!!! Love the way he puts things together. So intelligent
Love all 3 of em....Ric is the OG
I'd love to see Ric as a host as well
Marcellas adlibs be hilarious
Steve Nash would tell Harden in the 4qt to not take certain bad shots but he would never say a word to Krazy Kyrie…..Harden said deuces
This show deserves more views
Me to Emanuel: Well yes, but actually no... In the law causation is synonymous with blame. So no need to get semantical lol
2:03 acho is tripping!!!!!! lmfaooo
Tripping big time! "If I tell you what I need to be welcomed." That's some high maintenance, diva attitude there.
Cel & acho are true intellectuals, this show is refreshing.
I like the loony tune back ground on Ricks screen :)
I'm old enough to remember everybody blame Bron for Kyrie leaving so of course it's KD's fault!
Bron wanted him traded for Cp3 so u can’t really compare lol
Slick got ‘‘em on the last one 😂
K.D. like Lebron can't seem to get the 3rd best player to play the Chris Bosh role::/Kyrie/Russell
Because kyrie and russell are not that type of role players.
Bosh was a tall and a great defender who could rebound and shoot.
He didn't need the ball 30% of the time to get his 18 points on 50% shooting while giving you 8 rebounds and 4 assists.
@@Christopher._M kinda?? That Heat team underachieved with all the talent they had and Bosh was getting hated on while it was happening bc he was turned into a spot up shooter. It wasn't till people looked back and appreciated what he contributed especially situationally. Kinda like Love situation except Bosh played much better d.
@@damienaiden4302you make a good point.
I love Ben Simmons and I’m hoping to see him Win soon 🔥
The Best Duo in Sports Talk show 😂😂😂
The storytelling was top notch
🤣🤣🤣 yo they had me dyingggggg
You know it’s 2022 when a grown can make a decision then another grown man get blamed🤦🏾♂️i feel sorry for the future
Harden was not recruited like westbrook was though
Dayum, Slick Rick body bagged everyone’s take! 🤣🤣🤣
Great Show! ✊🏾✊🏾
WOW!!!! Ric Beuchler's final take is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥! Interesting debate on the topic nonetheless!
I agree with Slick and simple 😆
Ric unloaded the cannon on Marcellus
Had KD or Kyrie talked to him dude would have stayed , when they didn’t say anything he very likely thought it didn’t matter to them.
They know harden a quitter
KD knows that Harden is a quitter. He quit on him in OKC so why would he waste his time tryna convince a grown man to stay?
@@jmcgee39 quit everywhere he went literally
@@Luka77Legend Yes I know that. I'm replying to the original post about KD.
@@jmcgee39 he left OKC because they were $6M short. Sure, he wanted to be the man, but had they come with the full $60M or so, he would have stayed. The writing was on the wall that they were gonna win a title soon. I thought in 2016 without harden they were the most talented team in the league. They may’ve won well before then. In 2014 (or is it 2013) they were an Ibaka calf away from making the finals again.
In any event we don’t know what was said or not said behind closed doors but I think we can agree the Nets were a circus which didn’t help.
Erving's playing only away games (1/2 the season) are probably part of the reason.
@X How many rings has Kyrie won without Lebron?
Slick Rick got Marcellus gooooood 😂😂😂
KD is a baller, not a politician. He loves hims some kyrie, and ain't gonna turn on um.
Narcissist harden came to Brooklyn to make a run at a Chip, but narcissisist kyrie found another destraction that he can own his adoring fans commitment with. KD's love will cost him some years of trying to win a Chip without the GSW squad, and he ain't gonna get no younger.
Love this guys 🤣🤣🤣
Rick just preached a whole sermon on here!!!!
I love what all 3 said. They are all right.
Rick with that wisdom! 💯😂
Slick broke it down 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Loved it!!🤣🤣