Limited Run Games ANGERS Gamers for Using CD-R on $70 Games?!
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
- Limited Run Games is getting flak from gamers again, this time for getting busted using CD-R for their "collector edition" 3DO CD-ROM releases. Whoopsie doopsie.
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I can burn games to CD-R myself... I'm not giving other people money to do so.
You too eh? Cool :)
PAYING premium just to do something an average joe does in his freetime, no thanks ill keep burning songs off Bandcamp onto my CD R discs
Don’t give money to people that hate you.
Never give money to bigots.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 Is Limited Run the bigots?
@@SimplyWalkz Yes.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 Yeah, don't give money to those mf'ers
@@SimplyWalkzgood luck trying to convince everybody that
I'm honestly suprised people are still giving business to those scumbags. Not only what they did to Carolyn, but also sometimes not giving people their orders. They need to go under.
I read a guy's tweet that he got banned because he criticized them when they did a physical release of Tetris Effect Connected as it didn't have one then (it retroactively got one later on down the line but that's 20/20 hindsight). Essentially, he had all of his orders cancelled and barred from doing business with them ever again and imo he dodged a bullet in light of all of this happening.
Probably a lack of other options. I don't think there are many other ways to get those games if you don't want to pirate.
@@alzaelnext638 Nope. Unless it's a remake or a remaster, you have no choice in the matter really as there's maybe one or two other companies that do what LRG does? That's what I hate about these companies and I have no qualms about engaging in such matters as some of the best game I've played over the years have been fan translations and hacks of older titles and that's not possible without doing that.
Never even heard of em till now but im not buying any of their games going forward
No idea what you're talking about.
“You can’t be a terrible company that puts out terrible products and get very far.” *Looks at video game publishers*
That's only because the consumers have no spine and treat video games as a necessity rather than the luxury that it is.
Don't believe me? Look at Blizzard fans for an example.
Kara Lynne was the one who got fired for the Tweet. She landed in a good spot with Eric July and the Rippaverse.
Geeky getting distracted by Plumbers Don’t Wear Ties cracks me up
Why are Limited Run Games still a thing? They have done so much shite to warrant closure, yet people keep buying their products to keep them in business.
Because they haven't done anything that bad?
People love physical media and for good reason since we don’t want a awful future where people own nothing and are happy about it.
@@otaking3582 Whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel better.
I haven't bought anything from them, but it's not like there's anyone else releasing physical versions of digital-only games. They won't go out of business unless better competition pops up.
@@otaking3582Can always count on this guy to have the densest takes possible.
$70 for "anonymous eBay pirate" production quality, from a company that bowed to cancel demands of a single Twitter account. ...what could possibly go wrong?
And honestly, I feel like I was just unfair to eBay pirates, because I believe most of them have better turnaround times.
A lot of people going "PCEWorks wasn't so bad" after this debacle.
Limited Run Games did look interesting until I watched Clownfish talk about that manager that was fired because of her excitement to play Hogwart's Legacy. After that I just pass any of their ads. Now they are pulling stuff like this. lol
It's not CD-R disc rot, it's a Limited Run CD-R scrot shot....
The most memorable thing about Plumbers Don’t Wear Ties is the boss screaming at the woman to take her damn clothes off. And so she does.
So those claiming gamers are grifters turn out to be grifters after all, hilarious but not unexpected.
Reminds me of those organisms that paracitize snails to be eaten to infect other snails
As soon as the mentioned Plumbers Don't Wear Ties, I immediately heard AVGN cursing in my head😂
"We're gonna take you back to the past, to play shitty games that sucked ass..." 😂
I refuse to buy anything from them due to the BS they did regarding the Hogwarts Legacy thing.
They had nothing to do with Hogwarts Legacy
@@otaking3582 They fired one of their own employees who was simply excited for the upcoming game due to some 2SLGBTQIA+++++++++++++++++++++++ no-life screeching about it and some ancient, harmless tweet said employee posted years prior.
@@otaking3582they fired a worker because of her post about wanting to play Hogwarts Legacy.
@@MikeTheEnforcer Yup! They sure did.
@@otaking3582dude go sock puppet on other places no one buys your gaslighting bullshit
Each 70 dollar game comes with a kick in the nuts
4:30 plumbers don’t wear ties that was a great episode of angry video game nerd
"You can't be a terrible company that puts out terrible products."
Then there's Disney, that's wraithing on nealy a decade of good will.
Not really
An unqualified DEI hire getting the job, more then likely. Thanks Larry Fink for all the mediocrity, this wouldn't have happened if they hired someone competent & qualified.
@Parlimant_Strifey-Plenty of white trailer trash who do just as bad a job as DEI hires.
They couldn’t even use an M-Disc 🤦🏽♂️
Any company that has so little integrity that they throw their community manager under the bus like LR did isn’t going to have the integrity to give their customers a quality product.
Had a big problem with buying classic Dr. Who DVDs through Amazon being delivered as DVD-Rs. I wound up actually paying MORE for used copies through resellers like Goodwill to ensure that I'm at least getting ACTUAL DVDs.
CD rot? Tell that to my 35 year old music TV collection... that works just fine.
Cds and dvds you burn at home have a shorter estimated shelf life than professional done ones. But of course if stored well, no sunlight, etc., they'll last longer of course.
@@callak_9974 Not necessarily. I have CDRs that I burned back in the late 90s that still work perfectly. Likewise DVDRs from the early-mid 2000s. No issues at all with disc degradation and no read issues at all. OK I always use quality branded media not the el-cheapo stuff you by at your local supermarket but even so, if you look after them and store them properly they're quite capable of lasting several decades at least
Disc rot is largely a myth. If you take care of your discs and store them in proper conditions, they'll last a pretty long time.
@@AverageJoe87 that depends on the quality of the disc.. major label discs from the 80s and 90s are much harder and i havent had one fail me ever.
more recent cds often suck and just rot.
@@AverageJoe87 If it happens then its not a myth. The question though is how long the expected lifetime is for normal use. Written in stone? Lasts perhaps a couple centuries, depending on how deep it is etched for gravestones, if inside like a cave, they'll last for tens of thousands of years most likely at the minimum.
Of course things being taken care of lasts longer though, we've still got the first book printed off a printing press still in existence and that's not including ones that were hand written.
It warms my heart to know that I too can "re-release" games by burning an ISO and having a 3d printer or a connection to a plastics manufacturer.
I used to work in a retail console store in 1996. I used to play Wing Commander:The price of Freedom on the 3DO because it had better cinematics than the Playstation.
Wasn't they both ports of a PC game? I guess they could have remastered the cinematics though, that was, if I remember it correctly, the one thing the 3DO did really well. It lead to some weird exclusive games.... I think Angry Video game nerd did an episodes about the plumbers game way back.
It was one of those odd consoles that was a bit too expensive for most people but if you could play for free at work...
@@loke6664 yes, port of a PC game. However, the 3DO could handle it better. The unit we had was a Panasonic.
@@sashi4440 Yeah, I can see that. It was one of a few PC games back then where cinematics actually were important.
That was until Dragon age came out of course.
Hmm, did they have Red alert too? It also had great cinematics that looked a bit crappy on PC.
Glad to see that there's still folks out there that remember the 3DO, played the hell out of gek and myst on it..
@@loke6664 Red Alert was only on the playstation console if I remember correctly.
What's funny about all of this is that those copies of the games can't even be played on an actual 3DO! They literally scammed you by selling a box with artwork but the discs are beyond garbage. You're better off downloading the doggone games and playing them in an emulator.
You're making that up.
not entirely accurate, but beyond just the lifespan issue of burned disks, older hardware has a hard time with burned disks due to the difference in how the data is recorded, its read the same way but requires that the laser focus more, which for some system accelerates the degradation of the laser
Some models of 3DO can run them but not all. I've seen video evidence of a guy in a social media group running Limited Run's version of 'D' on his 3DO.
@@TromaDogg That's interesting. Maybe there's a happy ending to this story? Then again, I couldn't be happier that LRG is getting the karma they deserve right now.
@@otaking3582 You clearly don't have experience playing burnt cd's on old consoles.
Dreamcast and Saturn are VERY picky about how you burn the data and what brand the CD-R is.
Every CD-ROM uses laser to read the disc and it will deteriorate + misalign from normal use.
This is why Old School is the Best. Watch Television using the Air Waves, Record them in VHS. Archive them in Compact Disk and Hard drives. Don't sell because selling can get you Jail time. Obviously only for personal consumption. I miss those days. Today. Everything is Digital.
I honestly wouldn't support them even if they have retro after the stunt they fire someone who was just excited for a game
Wait what?
@@carterh914they fired a employee for wanting to play Hogwarts legacy
@@PedroIgori whatever happened to that former employee. Are they doing any good at all?
@carterh914 Eric July of Rippaverse Comics hired her as his community manager, and as far as I know, is doing well.
"what the hell is Plumbers Don't Wear Ties?"
*PLEASE* watch the AVGN video, its a classic
Shut up
Wow. My daughter just reinstalled The Sims 2 from the original disks that were kept in the original boxes. That's a 20-year-old game. EA may be a lot of things, but at least they don't cut that corner.
I used to consider buying stuff from them. After the firing for liking Hogwarts, I said NEVER. I will never buy their crap.
The big problem is this: There is NO safe media. CD's rot eventually. Thumb drives and SSD's have memory cell failure problems, sometimes catastrophic failures. Hard drives have head crashes. IBM has been playing with the idea of recording data on atoms, but it doesn't exist today, outside of the pages of Popular Science magazine. I have been preserving my files by "lifeboating" - making a byte by byte copy of my old hard drive onto a new hard drive, via a dedicated drive copying device. I had an Iomega Jaz drive that failed, so I know the pain of losing precious data.
We use tape at work... its pretty expensive but the data survived a fire, we still used the backup tape storage in a different location, but all the tapes from the room that was on fire were fine and we only used the backup to be sure.
Don’t rip off the customers and assume that’s gonna go over well for you. It’s a shame the grift that’s happening but not surprising.
Similarly, Sony are censoring the Tsukihime books, while the Nintendo releases are uncensored.
Soyny just can't stop sucking!
Most Nintendo games are uncensored.
Speaking of which, have you heard of Nintendo (mainly, Nintendo of America) censored the funny/sexy dialog for Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door remake?
@@keeganmcfarland7507 I know the Super Mario RPG remake is close to the Japanese script. I also know that The Three Shadow Sirens are now called The Three Shadows that match with Kage Sannin Gumi.
@@LuigiTheMetal64I’m only gonna ask you this once: with tons of information pointing everywhere alongside stuff that’s easy to mistranslate, in the original Japanese version of TTYD, is Vivian trans or a cross dresser?
@@keeganmcfarland7507Nintendo tend to censor the stuff they develop or publish themselves like Paper Mario, Fire Emblem and so on to keep their 'family friendly' image outside of Japan, but (so far) don't seem to care what third parties do so long as their games get age rated properly and don't fall afoul of the dreaded 'Adults Only' rating. A far cry from the early days when Nintendo wouldn't allow any games on their systems at all unless the content had been run by them first....now it's Sony who are pulling that BS.
I feel like some companies are actively trying to go bankrupt.
The really are living up to the name Limited Run with the path they are going
Fun fact there a Panasonic gamecube that play DVDs, Video CDs, audio CDs, and MP3 CDs.
I was stationed in Japan when they were on clearance... I wanted to get one but the 3DS had just came out so I ended up buying that instead... I liked my 3DS, but as time went by and the price for that Panasonic GC shot up I ended up regretting that. lol
So cheap they didn't even use DVDs, this company is a sad pathetic joke.
Honestly at this point, the gamers should know better. Stop supporting companies that hate you
Remember when you asked your parents what a vhs is?
I cant believe you had to explain what a cdr is
I'd rather buy games digitally than EVER give Limited Run Games a penny, F THEM. We need a new company to take this business away from them.
Fools and their money...
Whos more the fool the one who makes the wooden nickles or the one who buys them?
Anyone paying $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties is definitely the fool...
@@Corvette6317 that and overwatch2
I remember back in the early 2000 we get pirated games from shops that will burn the games for you. Or we go to a friends place with a faster internet and burn all those games coming from limewire. The craziest burned CD game we found was WoW personal server that was like more than 4 cd-r and it worked.
Angry video game nerd did a video on " plumbers don't wear ties".
It had better production and entertainment value than the game.
Limited Run took A YEAR to send me my collectors edition of TMNT Shredder's Revenge! A full year. My first and last purchase from them.
It's been over a year since I ordered them, and I still haven't received my Geeky Sparkles action figure (with brushable hair and power rant button) and my Kneon action figure (with light-up laser eyes and kung-fu grip). Of course, I did order them in the comments section over a year ago, but it's the neglect that really hurts, you know? I guess I'll wait for the collectors edition, with action figures of SquidKing, PinkyBoo, and her stalwart canine protector (whose lengthy name escapes me at the moment).
Lawyers, does this help to sue for false advertisement or other bad business practice? Genuinely curious here.
They can lightscribed those disks at least or print some labels.
God the DEI incompetence.
Labels, huh? I remember burning copies onto CD's and putting those self adhesive labels on the disks. They would either throw off the balance of the disk, making the drive shake, or the label would come loose inside the drive, making a terrible mess. After that, I used magic markers instead. Not the most elegant solution, but it worked.
I'm very disappointed to learn that limited run games is still in business
Thanks for the heads up about disc rot! I've got my music library backed up on CDs, many of which are compilations from the "Old West" internet days ifyouknowwhatImean going all the way back as far as 25 years! I'm starting the process right now of copying them to fresh discs.
If you store the discs properly they'll last for decades
This is also concerning when it comes to piracy, As it stands their are arguements that to some extent it is needed for preservasion. With this it is going to make piracy more appealing.
Just make sure your CDs aren't scratched. I have DVDs from the 2000s that still work fine on my laptop.
They're the madcatz of game sales.
I backed up my video, audio, images and other old projects around 2005 when I ran out of room on my HDD. I knew the life span of CD/DVDs and I try to buy the gold ones whenever I could.
In 2021 I bought a 8 bay HDD enclosure to archive it. One disc have many files that can not be copied to 100% completely. I have to use AnyReader and Unstoppable Copier to ignore the bad sectors. Many files are corrupted. Audio files have hiccups, images are not full, video have missing segments and compressed files does not extract everything.
Man, LRG to use low quality disc? ouch
Similar experience with me earlier this year. People, if you have precious stuff on CDRs or DVDRs, copy that off at your earliest convenience.
3DO doesn't work with cd-rs, even if they are expensive ones.
Yeah I started using M-Discs lately and then even though they supposedly last over 100 years, I create .par2 files (error correction files) along side the actual files just in case....
I will admit there were times I ALMOST went back to LRG bc I wanted to get the new Rugrats game but I held back. These ppl don’t deserve our money
3DO was my first 32-bit console! Unfortunately I bought mine months before the Playstation released. But it was my introduction to CD-R games. Played Soccer Kid, Star Control 3, Starblade... Return Fire! A 3D tank isometric scroller with capture the flag, set to CD quality classical music was a revelation at the time.
Remember this, folks. DEI stands for DIDN'T EARN IT. LOL. 😁😂🤪🤣😆😄😊👌
Kneon, you're gonna have to introduce Geeky to the glory that is Zelda CD-i
I had over $500 on pre-order and got my money back when that firing fiasco happened. I threatened to charge back my card if they didn't.
Yes, you are buying a box. That doesn't excuse that they don't have archival level CDs. But yes, that is what you are doing when you buy a product like this... And if they couldn't afford high quality DVDs what they should have done is included a USB with the files that would have been on the CD, because USB sticks don't deteriorate as fast or just sell the box, I'm sure there's a lot of people who would buy the box even if they knew it was empty for some of these games.
The character art books are pretty cool. It is a good thing other companies that are not LRG are making them. You would get them from Japan.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 sure sure in a way I include that as "the box". My point more was That for companies like that a vast majority of the CDs from their sales are going to be sealed still a year from now...
I mean, did they think no one would notice? What a cluster...
Strictly Limited are better these days. Hard copies should have never been in low quality. TDK even planned on the Durabis to prevent disc scratches.
Limited Run gets two middle fingers up
I knew to stay away from the CD of LRG. Has anyone confirmed the 3DS cart are suffering a similar issue?
The DVD rot can happen even if you are careful, I watched this movie collector who bought a lot of originally packed boxes and a larger percentage still didn't work.
According to him, there was this American DVD company who worked for... Was it Paramount or Universal? Anyways, they had severe issues and in some cases, everything of a certain movie doesn't work anymore and most of the DVD they made are dead.
There is no such known issues with Blueray discs though so there is that.
No way anyone should buy anything from Limited Run Games. Typical CD-R develop disc rot in about 3 years tops.
This is sad. So they're charging almost close to $100 for their games onto low quality media? WOW!!! Talk about nonsense. Thankfully we never bought many games from them that were on disc. At least NSW games are fine.
The biggest problem is the discs they’re producing don’t even run in many 3DO consoles. They weren’t designed with CDRs in mind. Either way this just isn’t acceptable even if the games did work, it’s still substandard quality where people are paying for a real disc.
A while back I was destroying a library of obsolete software. All on various disk media. Some of it pushing 20 years old. You can definitely tell the difference in the media quality. And yes, the cheaper media was all suffering from disk rot.
I have a book from 1814 that is banged up, but readable. It's nuts that disks from 10-15 years ago are now unusable if a book from 210 years ago is readable.
Then there are the people who bought VHS movies from Disney whenever the "vault" opened that can't watch the tapes since no one has a working VCR anymore. Books may be old technology, but they last longer than the newer stuff.
The worst thing about CD-Rs on the 3DO is that another thing that the system is that there where different manufactures for the consoles and some of them use drives that can not read CD-R disks, making the discs useless.
Ummm Kneon a number of us still remember 3DO for a variety of reasons. They were the first ones to get "Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo" at the time where you can play Akuma and apparently it has great original music. It got an original version of Road Rash at the time which Sega Lord X swears by and sadly the ports on the Saturn and Playstation had the licensed music taken out. The first "Need For Speed" was on it.
I think one of the most remarkable things was that 3DO was the first system to have "Policenauts", the "Snatcher" prequel by Hideo Kojima. I remember playing Gex on it at a store and that was def. a game to buy for it.
Oh yeah and 3DO had the full Samurai Showdown. The other non NeoGeo console versions nixed Earthquake while the 3DO version included him.
Geeky the bad discs for Warner I believe predated the big digital push. I get the impression this was a lack of quality control.
When I say buy physical, I don't mean from them.
I added that Plumbers Don't Wear Ties game to my my, digital, wish list a few days ago. I didn't know it was limited run doing it.
So glad I cancelled my KOTR switch order after they fired Kara Lynne.
I used to get stuff from them, and some of it was really good like the Streets of Rage 4 with the statue that was in excellent sculpt. But hearing more about this after the Carol Lyne situation continues to affirm I made a good decision that I dropped them
Now I’m my collection of Homestar Runner DVDs are shot.
CD-Rs are still around? I used those to burn free music from Napster back in 2001
Only for recordings like voice demos.
Of course they are - I burned one just a few hours ago
Good gawd. ...have the original, uncensored Johnny Quest disks disintergrated yet?
I can't believe they haven't seen Plumbers Don't Wear Ties. That game is infamous. They should go back and youtube it or watch the Nerd.
Not many people know about the game cause it was only a 3DO exclusive. Heck it isn't even a game, just a slideshow of event between a loser bachelor and a $20 hooker, both of who kept getting sidetrack by random characters that wants to narrate the story. The worst part is you don't even had to get the 3DO version, Limited Run Games is bringing that crap to PS4, PS5, Xbox, PC, and Nintendo Switch which I don't even know why as nobody was asking for the game. If anything they could had give D that same treatment.
@@VOAN Bite your tongue. Those tits were worth $40 at least.
Omg is that thumbnail Satánia from Gabriel Dropoout?
The 3D0 was actually one of the bigger attempts for a third party publisher to "make" a console, since the head of the vision was Trip Hawkins. Since he was the head, there was a lot of EA games on it, including one of the better versions of Wing Commander 3. Crystal Dynamics was a big developer on it too. The first Gex and Legacy of Kain games were on it. It also had a collection of "adult" content on it as well. The hefty price tag really did the console in when the much cheaper PlayStation came out. It did have a better quality video player though. I'd say the failure is a major reason to this day why we don't see more 3rd parties try their hand at console development.
Plumbers Don't Wear Ties was a "game" on that console that was sort of a choose your own adventure thing, where you were guiding a dude through this story for him to ask out a hot blonde girl. It's barely a game at all...and most people who played it were hoping to see a lot more of that blonde. It's full of jokes and gags that probably were only funny to the people who were making it. If I were making a list of worst games of all time, it would certainly be somewhere on that list.
That being said, Plumbers Don't Wear Ties was not alone, as there were a lot barely games on the 3D0. It just is pretty infamous because it's about as close to being an adult game as there was this side of Leisure Suit Larry.
I spit out my soda when she asked about "Plumbers don't wear ties"
"64 bit!!" - AVGN
I can still read my CDRs burned in 2002. Maybe it's because 1) I don't store my disks in a pig pen 2) my house is not a pig pen. Hope it helps.
Yep - agreed 100%. My CDRs from the late 90s still read perfectly. Buy quality branded media and store them properly and they'll last for a very long time - several decades easily. Maybe more. I'm in my 60s now and I fully expect my CDRs from the 90s to last for the rest of my life...
At this point anyone with a cd burner can start competing and sell themselves as preservationists.
I think I better check my old CD book that I haven't opened since 2006.
My guess is that they'll all be fine
3DO was expensive as heck around the 500s or so at release, saw the Wha Happun on it
And if you leave a CD-R out in the sun, it will destroy it.
Buying CD-Rs at Walmart is insulting to Walmart, they're more like Goodwill.
Plumbers Don't Wear Ties
Please go watch the AVGN episode about this??🙏
I personally buy Nintendo Switch games I'm interested in from LR. Never directly from them though. I also prefer physical media over digital whenever possible.
TENCHI MUYO! Man, I haven't heard anyone mention that anime in so long, I fucking love that show.
I couldn't afford you a present this year, so I got you this box
After what they did, I would never spend a dime on their junk.
wow… maybe it is great quality CD from 2007.
That's fucking scummy and terrifying that Limited Run is using CD-R on $70 games.
Good thing I'm becoming a indie game developer, and I'm not going to work with Limited Run to produce physical games.
I'll work with someone else to produce physical games like FanGamer, Iam8bit, Humble Bundle Games, Devolver Digital, or better, I'll produce physical games by myself (alongside with my team) in the future.
Also, the disk rot stuff is terrifying!🥶
Is there any way we could prevent disks from rotting?
Other than that, indie game developers and AA game studios should not work with Limited Run.
Can’t stand them over the two issues you said of the delays and woke firing practices but there is more. They’ve also raised prices on similar goods making them a bit too spendy. Shantae was $5 more than the old gbc game costs. They just did the most sequel and it’s $60, $20 more than the era costs for the same minimalist game box and manual and even yet old shantae got a card now that’s extra too. They’re crooks.
CDRs. Wow that takes me back... I forgot that stuff even existed 😅
I didn’t even know that was a thing. I thought everyone just downloaded older games.
Mediablasters and Kittymedia also uses DVD-Rs!
Crazy that they did.
they couldn't even spring for m-disks?
m-disks are just regular cds. MIL is just the format. The 3DO doesn't work with burned disks.
The original pressed discs for PlayStation 1 for example were printed on pressed discs with black ink of some sort into the CD itself, the wobble burning technique also added a extra layer of DRM protection for alot of the games. Aswell as these discs were burned on 1x speed but the PlayStation can play games up to 10x speed, 16x speed I think it breaks for alot of games, but there's a chance 16x disc speed games work in some scenarios potentionally. But I have only recalled a 10x speed game to work as the maximum speed but I may be wrong on that, who knows really.
So yeah, a 1x speed original PlayStation disc is more sought after than a cheap CD-R disc that has been burned with a BIN, ISO, and so on file extension with the content of the media of the game or demo disc, movie disc, and so on. It's a disgrace that companies or private persons sell CD-R's I know it's very silly, but some actually do and try to make money from it. It's incredibly funny to me, but also a bit of a scumbag move to try and do that, but some are desperate and are in dire need of money so they take desperate measures and often look bad doing it.
Especially collectors of video games, they like their games in original release. That's why printed discs often burned at 16x speed because it's faster to burn them, they often sell very poorly and they sometimes don't run well on some of the video game consoles. Some are not even tested I presume, so imagine them selling a disc that is burned at the wrong speed and it doesn't even work to play it, LOL. That's hilarious. I'd imagine they have gone through testing the discs before hand, I'm sure they're not that bad at this, but if they don't they will look bad for sure.
It's a crazy time for the markets around the world to be selling cheap CD-R's with old retro games on them, especially if they are low effort made, and no quality to them.