Gerald Swindle & Trey McKinney Bass Fishing Drama
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- What happened at the St. John Bassmaster Elite event with Trey McKinney and Gerald Swindle? Should anglers who compete and police others feel a backlash from the organization and fans? Should professional bass anglers tell on other anglers about infractions that happen during the event?
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Standing up for what’s right… is right. Period.
Agreed!!! Cheers Caro!! Hope your doing well
The fact that he run the no wake zone isn’t as bad to me as the remark he made to G when he was asked about it , I would like to see what Treys parents have to say about that remark !
@@GetUrFishOnmam to man the cunt did it while he was in an interview. That is a move to try and hurt his presence with the media not a man to man a bitch move in my opinion
G-mam is a cunt for this he wanted to approach him in a but did while he was in an interview. He should have approached him but there are ways of doing this. He should have reported him. But he tried to blast him in the media and for what man is on his way out and being crushed by the guys and is acting like a broad
Trey showed his true colors on this one. Zero respect for his fellow competitors and the sport!!
I don't think he knew about this zone, but his response back to Gerald was wrong. He is learning quickly. Thanks for the comment. Cheers and tight lines!!
@GetUrFishOn he knew..if he was too dumb to pay attention there are plenty of guys in the opens that will follow the rules
@@beavisbrowne3497 I agree 💯% tight lines 🎣🎣🎣
@@beavisbrowne3497 Very true!! Agreed!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Would expect nothing less from a spotlighter.
Swindle has experience himself about bad boat handling back in his younger days. He did the right thing. That kid has been anointed as the next wheeler
Trey is learning, but Gerald didn't do anything wrong. It's a learning curve. Cheers and tight lines!!
Trey technically is a kid and kids will push every boundary and if they aren’t nailed down it will get out of hand. No question he can catch them, but hold yourself to a level above and you have zero problems
@@TLBassworksTrey was taught shallow water fishing....LOOK OUT IF FFS IS OUTLAWED...GOING TO CREAT A MONSTER....
You will not have integrity in any sport unless their are rules and the competitors have the integrity to play by those rules. In a sport where it is impossible to have oversight on every competitor at all times, competitors must police themselves and at times others. The rules are there for a reason. I totally agree with Gerald and the way he approached the infraction.
Yes agreed!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Swindler should have waited where there wasn't a audience...it wasn't the right thing WHEN he jumped him....2 negatives doesn't make it right...Swindler is not a sheriff...One of life's rules is out with the old and in with the new...JUST HOW ITS GONA BE !!!!!
If the marshal seen the infraction then I don’t see why g man would get grief.
I honestly don't know. I think G felt like BASS threw him under the bus but he didn't say why in his video. Thanks for the comment!! Cheers and tight lines!!
If the Marshall saw it I would think it would be his job to report it
That's part of his job to report violations not just his pro OK
Am I wrong
G man should have been just a witness
when it is wrong, it is wrong. there is no time not to do the right thing
I agree. Gerald feels like he was thrown under the bus, and I don't agree with that. Thank you!! Cheers and tight lines!!
As the media that was actually there to witness this, I will tell you that everyone of you are reacting to half a story you are being told. Trey is by far the most polite and well mannered kids I have ever met. Everything is answered with a yes sir or yes ma’am and his family has raised him to be that respectful and give every bit of glory to god. They are very very strong in their faith. Had swindle approached him the way he claimed he did, he would have been met with the same grace and courtesy Trey shows everyone. However that was not the case, he approached Trey with a finger in in face, threats of his career being over and more swear words than I care to repeat ever. All
This while Trey was conducting an interview. Treys response was a pure reaction to the attitude he was approached with. Yes his response enraged G further, but perhaps you should consider that you are met with the same courtesy you put forth. There are three sides to the story, theirs, the others, and the truth
I have heard the same thing from others on this after making this video. I think when Trey was approached he probably felt like he was backed into a corner, and we wouldn't have known this unless G did the video. While Trey made the mistake and paid for it, it was handled wrong on both sides I think. Thanks for the comment and hope your doing well. When we going fishing in the Harris Chain? Cheers and tight lines.
I am not a professional angler nor a tournament fishermen. But, those activities fall under the same life rules as any other. If you are not a moral person, nor an ethical person, then you cannot fault someone for pointing your failures for what they are. These rule violations are no different than cheating at a card game, this is your income ! you must call foul when it happens. If one has no integrity, they deserve no quarter.
Agreed!! Love this!! Cheers!!
I used to fish night tournament and the biggest problem was people putting fish in baskets you fish your ass off and would have had a nice bag of fish and then these MF would come in with a bag of fish that could not have been caught that night that's why I quit
Yup seen that
That has happened at all levels of fishing, bass crappie redfish and more. It’s a shame! Cheers!!
All the kid said was "good for you". He paid the price lets move on. GMan has been DQed for running his boat past a competitor too and he didn't think it was warented at the time. If I remember right GMan had a lot more to say then "good for you" and he was older then Tray is now. Live and learn, don't hold on to them hurt feelers.
Hopefully they can move on, and probably will. Trey has a lot to learn and will continue to ge a great angler. Cheers and tight lines!!
In this day and age with all upper-level tournament anglers needing a camera recording in the boat, you would think that another competitor could report a rules violation and still remain anonymously. Hard to argue with video proof.
Jeff, as someone who was a pro angler, did anglers who reported another angler get backlash or trashed? This seems to be happening more and more, but maybe I am wrong. Cheers and keep taking those amazing photos, but if your in Apopka, TEXT ME!!
They do have a camera on board, unfortunately its facing forward looking at fish.....
@@user-sq4dh9ni2z it’s not a camera but I can see you come from Randy B’s channel
So what your saying is if Gerald didn't say anything, and if Gerald Marshall says something and then said ya Gerald saw it, so now Gerald would be on trouble, sounds like Gerald did nothing wrong and trey should've man up
YES!!! Gerald didn't do anything wrong, but he wanted Trey to do the right thing instead of Gerald having to write a report during his evening after day 1. Cheers and tight lines!!
He isn’t the next wheeler by no means because he will never have the knowledge that comes from not having ffs , some of the younger class don’t like all the rules or should I say adhering to them !
Yeah, that rule or no wake zone should be explained to the new guys even more, but he still should have listened during the meeting. Trey is going to be a good/great angler....Wheeler-ish? Well only time will tell but Jacob is in a class of his own. IMO Cheers and tight lines!!
Comical saying he’s the “Next Wheeler”. He’s got the potential of being the next top “Scopeadoper”!
He also doesn’t need the knowledge anymore. Absolute bs sport now because of ffs.
I agree with Gerald
Way back in 2001 I was fishing the end of year championships on a team trail on a lake I was unfamiliar with.
I unknowingly went into an off limits area abd as soon as I saw the sign noting it was off limits we left and never took a cast in there . We were only on there about 30-45 seconds. Another tournament boat saw us and turned us in. We had a huge bag too. At the time it sucked but being older now I definitely agree with what the other fisherman did. We broke a rule , albeit unknowingly but a rule is a rule
That stinks, especially since you technically didn't throw a line....sorry to read this. Glad your able to see the positive now. Thanks for the comment!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Has Trey released a statement? If not then he needs to and needs to apologize. He was in the wrong if he got a penalty.
I don't know if he has said anything, and we only know one side of the story. While he was wrong, he did get a penalty. should be interesting to see where or what happens, and he might not want to continue and throw gas on the fire. Cheers and tight lines!!
Yes, Trey acknowledged his wrong doing and apologized on both Bassmaster and his own personal pages. He accepted his penalty and held his head high. No swearing ranting or threats like he has received from the other side
@@MAJORBASS2021 I think there was other people (channels I prefer not to mention) that insinuated that Trey was the one swearing at G, and think it was the other way around. Cheers!!
@@GetUrFishOn I can 100% promise you that Trey would never swear like that. It goes against everything his faith and family stand for
@@MAJORBASS2021 Ive talked to him last year at Harris chain for a few seconds, think that's the last time I saw someone from your team also, but Trey was extremely nice and polite. I don't think G should have been thrown under the bus, but I also don't think he should be swearing and being confrontational. It's surprising, don't know when I made this video, but since making it, a bunch of people have told me more about this and how it was handled and how other people have lied to fit their narrative. How G's close friends have tried to stear the boat. Cheers!! And THANK YOU!!
I know some people won't agree but there is a difference between etiquette in the pro leagues and etiquette in $25 club tournaments IMO. I've had two incidents in club tournaments where people ran no wake zones and I was convinced they honestly didn't know they were breaking the law and didn't do it to gain an competitive advantage. In both cases I told the anglers, they ran no wake zones, both apologized sincerely, and I did NOT file a protest or tell the tournament director. I don't know if either one turned themselves in and I didn't feel as though I had been cheated by them. In a high dollar derby like Swindle and the other guy were in, Swindle had no choice but to turn the guy in. Swindle could have technically been disqualified, lost his $5K entry fee (or whatever it is), and lost points in the AOY/Classic qualification. I never heard of the other guy but if he wasn't going to turn himself in he's a scum bag. Only cheaters would dog out Swindle, or the guy that turned New in. And frankly going back to the boat accident on the Harris chain I can't believe those two boaters were so brazen as to knowingly break the law, risk harming people, and getting disqualified in a tournament they paid thousands of dollars to fish! The funny thing is; I know the co-angler in the boat that was run over and his old lady is a lawyer...so I would assume both of those boaters were sued.
Trey I don’t think knew the zone or listened properly to the tournament video. In the boat accident, did you buddy get hurt? I’d love to know what he thought of that situation. Cheers!!
Gerald Swindle is just an Honest down to Earth Country Boy with Integrity and that’s exactly what measures a Man period. These Anglers that skate by and bend the Rules are just plain Garbage and Gerald has always been the Man you see and always will be and the Man that’s gets up a 3am to bring you Gas when you run out without hesitation. Semper Fidelis
YES!!! AGREED!!!! Love this. Thank you!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Swindle had a day DQ back in 07' I believe for driving like an idiot
@@beavisbrowne3497 Yes he did!! Your correct and he had to deal with it then. Might have lost his weights for the day.....but I could be wrong. Cheers!!
@@beavisbrowne3497that’s exactly why he is policing the situation, he learned from his mistakes, it’s time for Trey to get his act together. It’s not criminal behavior, but it’s a learning experience. No hate.
Every year further proves that pros and wannabe pros are a cancer to our fisheries.
Well this is something that happens every year, probably more now than ever. Competition brings out the worst in some people. Cheers and tight lines!!
Yep, nothing positive comes from tournament fishing.
Says people that probably never do well in a tourney lol
@yinzoutdoorz2413 Im sure I can outfish you any day. Whether it be out of my fully loaded out basscat or my jon boat. Using the latest and greatest electronics or no electronics doesn't matter to me. I'm on the water 3-4 days a week because I love to fish. Mainly chasing these trophy Texas bass. Not chasing social media likes or trying to eek out a living off of fishing.
@@yinzoutdoorz2413 outed your self as an inferior complex manlet who causes the issues we see in the vid. Probably a litterbug too, like every other "competitive" airhead. Imagine this: going out for a day and doing REAL fishing for fun -instead of- getting a set of waypoints from your "competitors" and then staring at a screen the whole day while you break all the rules.
Yeah some of us don't even participate in the trash culture that is modern fishing tournaments. Some of us are respectful to the environment, other boaters, and the sport. The rest of you are going to be the reason(along with urbanite poachers) that we lose even more angling rights. Your kind are the topic of the video, which is why you get so triggered when you see posts like this.
As an adult and a professional there are two things at question here. INTEGRITY & ACCOUNTABILITY. When ever you have a competition with a major payout there will be individuals who will ignore the rules to win. This happens in every professional sport. Because there are not a lot of officials or replay available during a BASS event, then it becomes essential for all the pros to police their associates to make it a fair and rule abiding field. If this does not occur then cheating and unsafe acts will continue without any reprisal weakiening that sport to the affect that no one will want to participate in it because of all the cheating. You see this a lot in smaller BassFishing trails. Thumbs up to Swindle and Upshaw for reporting the individuals who committed the rule violations.
Agreed awesome comment. Cheers!!
Really disappointed in Trey, he definitely showed his lack of integrity. Hope he realizes his mistake and learns from it.
He learned from this mistake for sure. This is tough and he still fished well. Cheers!!
We live in a world where right is wrong and wrong is right, and the truth offends everyone. In my honest opinion, professional fishing is on its way out. Just like everything else, there’s a whole new breed taking over.
AGREED!!! Cheers and tight lines!!
First, each angler should police themselves, that way it’s not up to other anglers. But, if they aren’t going to do so it’s on to other anglers. That’s what true professionals do!
Love this comment. True professional! Needed to say that in the video. Cheers and tight lines!!
I must have missed GMan saying he felt like he got thrown under the bus. Where did that come up? I did really appreciate that BASS actually came out on X and made a very clear comment about the incident the day that the penalty was being enforced and then later followed up with Trey doing a video for them sitting at the dock explaining the penalty as well. That is the kind of transparency that needs to happen with all of these infractions/penalties IMO. Normally I don't find out until at least a week later because someone is complaining about it after the fact.
Yes, BASS coming out and saying it live was really nice. I didn't know how it happened but knew it happened because of the live show. I thought Gerald said it in his video about being thrown under the bus a little, but maybe I am going crazy.... Thanks for the comment! LOVE THE HANDLE!!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Remove the drama and if there is a boat official, he also witnessed it. Seems logical for the official to handle it.
I think and I could be wrong, but the marshall didn't know the rules as well as the angler. Sometimes people pay to be marshalls and get to learn from the angler, if that makes any sense. I have been a media marshall for the Classic a few times, and I wouldn't have known this. Cheers and tight lines!!
drama in fishing?? who'da thunk it!!
I love your handle. More drama today than ever in the sports. Cheers and tight lines!!
You would think that with so much money and technology in those tournaments, they would have something set up so that other fishermen don't have to worry about having to put themselves in that situation, unless they want to put themselves in that situation. 🤷♂️ I don't know. As always thanks for the video and 🍻 Steve
It stinks that ya have to police yourself and others, but all pro anglers are TRYING to win and some will break the rules to get ahead, and that stinks. Cheers and tight lines!!
@GetUrFishOn Yeah, that's definitely something you just don't see in a professional sport where the players, athletes, or participants have to enforce the rules themselves. It kind of makes you wonder why that is Steve?
Too much pressure on all lakes from tournaments..maybe each lake should be limited to how many tournaments are aloud per year
I agree with you completely. Down here on Lake Toho, they say that there is a tournament 365 times a year. Cheers and tight lines!!
Couldnt the Marshalls have handled that ? Both Gman and the kid had an official in the boat .
That way G is out of it
G's marshall could have but I don't think Trey or his marshall, if he had one knew of the infraction or zone. It wasn't marked. Cheers and tight lines!!
I think G did the right thing.. I have been in his shoes unfortunately just not on that scale lol. Nobody wants to be the bad guy but we must hold each other accountable. I think he did everything right, he gave Trey the opportunity to handle it himself and he got defensive. Which is to be expected.. especially if Trey didn’t know about that rule even though according to G it was mentioned several times about the no wake zone.
Like I said in another comment, yes Trey comment to G was wrong. But Trey is a kid, he’s learning and growing up, developing key characteristics like integrity and accountability.. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable but I wouldn’t take what he said to G to heart.. we were all young and had a bulldog bark when we were younger. Give it time and I hope we see Trey grow into a great young man and an angler we can all support and get behind just like G.
If " kids" can't follow simple rules/safety measures, they shouldn't be allowed to compete.
@@beavisbrowne3497 that’s goes for anyone. Again we don’t know what really happened. Was it a honest mistake or was it intentional? We really will never know. We’re all human and make mistakes. Some of the best anglers have been DQ due to honest mistakes and their attitudes lol. G being one of them..
This was an unmarked NWZ and being his first year he didn't know about it, kinda needs to listen better, but Trey learned. Trey is going to be a great pro angler, the young man has talent. Cheers and tight lines!!
Very well put!!! Not only professional anglers but other non-professional tournament anglers need to police themselves. Look at the cheaters we've seen recently. It was nice for the G-man to go up to Trey and talk to him but it seems Trey didn't want the advice. I agree in every situation so far this year had the angler's right to turn in the incident. Just watch another video on this same situation and it had the G-man 100% at fault. Stay Safe & God Bless!!!! 🤠👍
Someone said Gerald was at fault. How is this possible? Cheers!!
Sounds like tournament organizations don't want to deal with these issues. Sometimes it seems like they actually view the person with the complaint as the problem. The tournament officials need to simply do their job, listen to both anglers and weigh the evidence and make a decision. A decision mind you not based on them being upset that they have to deal with this problem now. It needs to be a decision based on what actually happened no matter who it was.
Awesome comment!! Cheers!!
Gerald was only following rules. And it was done to him years ago in a lot bigger T
Yes it was. He handled the situation as good as anyone can! Hats off to this man. Cheers and tight lines!!
As a tournament albeit not at that level, I’ve experienced both sides of such scenarios! I’ve pulled myself outside of a tournament because my partner & I inadvertently broke a rule. As soon I was made aware, I called the tournament director and disqualified ourselves! It also pisses me off when fellow competitors knowingly break the rules in front of you then deny that it happened when you report it! 🤬🤬🤬G-Man has also been on both sides of this issue and I do believe that he handled it correctly!
I agree with you and I don't think he should have been thrown under the bus, or felt that way. Your experience and knowledge is appreciated. Cheers and tight lines!!
Not many pros are going to like trey with that attitude but hey he sells tech and lures free reigns in the pros today
Trey is a good angler. I think people might be putting a lot on his shoulders right now, but he is selling stuff. He is young and has a lot to continue to learn. Cheers brother!!
@@GetUrFishOn garmin lvs34 is good
@@GetUrFishOnwhen isee him fish some taa tourneys and smacks them there I'll agree with ya, if I was a rookie that got called a libescoper I'd show up to them just to prove I don't need ffs but we all know they do
Trey needs to respect his co anglers and especially the veterans! His cockiness will get him in trouble
I think your correct. Thanks for the comment. Cheers and tight lines!!
Definitely shouldn’t be a backlash from the organization; they ask for things to be reported. Should they ask for that? I’m not sure….
I agree. I think he felt some pressure because of this and that is wrong. Cheers and tight lines!!
Swindle was right this time. Still interesting how he seems to be caught up in Drama more often than others.
Yeah he was right. Sometimes these things follow people. Cheers!!
Competitors shouldn’t be required to police other competitors…leave it up to the marshals to do that, the marshals should be “deputized” otherwise it creates these conflicts among fellow competitors.
Not every boat has a marshall at times, and the anglers know the rules better than most marshalls I think. Cheers and tight lines!!
Any angler on the elite has to do this . If you don’t speak and sign on what you saw as a professional and it is determined other wise that you didn’t police your self or others that you seen do wrong they will DQ you from the tournament as well . Which means it involves your pay check so in return you’re going to do what’s right .
Yes!! Cheers!!
Gerald did the right thing, and he went directly to Trey, who is a rookie( still a hammer). Gerald cares about the league 💯 and has been on the opposite side of violations and had his own penalties 😮 but those who put down a “ whistle blower “ I think need to understand real integrity, and I promise it builds character,especially when you plan to make it your life’s work 🍀🎣🍀👍
I agree. Cheer and tight lines!!
Integrity of this sport depends upon others watching others and be confronted by other anglers. This is ethical and keeps sport about suspicion.
YES!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Well B.A.S.S. hid the fish that someone had hooked outside of the mouth that was bed fishing on day 3 so it doesn’t surprise me they didn’t like him confront someone for breaking the rules. The footage of this over 7lb fish was only shown on the live stream and never replayed again. The commentators were quick to change the subject I couldn’t believe they did that
Who was the angler if you don’t mind me asking? Ty cheers!!
Swindle is known as a straight up guy. Trey should have listened to his experience, But I also feel for Trey. These young guys are experiencing hate at a level no other angler has ever gone through. It's non-stop criticism of these guys. They probably having trouble trusting anyone at this point
I agree with you and there are two sides to this story. I think G did the right thing, but I am now thinking how he went to Trey was wrong..... Cheers and tight lines!!
You stated a key point, Standard. Individuals lashing out against someone for upholding a standard is a product of our society & a continuum of lowering that standard in individual character. These are pro's & should at a minimum uphold that standard if not exceed it. I applaud Swindle in the way this was handled. He went to him man to man & then when no self action was to take place he upheld the standard. Same with Upshaw, I watched the videos & this story was collaborated by other anglers who visually witnessed the same thing. I am not familiar with the Eric situation yet. What @caroferg8857 stated is paramount...what's right is right. Thanks for putting this out sir.
Thank you and we agree. Gerald should never feel like he was thrown under the bus over this situation. Cheers and tight lines!!
Well said. That's the policy and it should be done by everyone.
Agreed. Cheers and tight lines!!
to many anglers,not enough prize money makes people do things they normally wouldn't do simple
When you pay to play and these are their lives, sometimes angler will work those gray areas. Cheers and tight lines!!
The marshals should report it and it would shield the fishermen from scrutiny from the other fishermen , its a very slippery slope the police your own . Think about when there are 4 fishermen who are a team and one did something wrong . Leave it to the marshals .
I don't think the marshalls knew about this zone because it wasn't marked. Cheers and tight lines!!
Gerald has also been completely disqualified for a boat driving violation (rightfully so btw). So it makes sense he would want others held accountable similarly. I say he did the right thing.
I agree. Thanks for the comment. Cheers and tight lines!!
where is the Marshall?
The Marshall was with him but I don't know if they knew this rule or this non-marked NWZ. Cheers and tight lines!!
I think G -man did the right thing. We all screw up some times. So its only fare to do whats right,and have integrity 👌.
Agreed!! Cheers!!
If I recall Gerald’s marshal is required to report this. Did Trey have a marshal?
None of this crap does anything to build the sport. At least it wasn’t over FFS!!
I don't think he had a Marshall on day one while watching the coverage. Or that I can remember. I don't know if Geralds marshall did anything either because I believe G was hoping that Trey would do it himself. Cheers and tight lines!!
They need to police themselves and I hope this is not a reoccurring issue as these guys are two of my favorite pros
I hope not also, but they have to police themselves. Cheer and tight lines!!
Totally agree. True Character is seen best when nobody's watching. Ole Slack Liner has this one on point.
Yeah he did right and shouldn't have been thrown under the bus, Cheer and tight lines!!
Gman shouldn't have called Trey out in front of the reporter though, he should have waited for him to be done and then pulled him aside. That was the part I didn't agree with.
Probably correct, it could have been handled differently. Cheers and tight lines!!
If it were basketball and a player on opposing team fouled the guy taking. Shot but the refs had their backs to it, would anyone say anything, with the guy on the floor?
They might say something but doesn't mean anything would happen. Scott did the correct thing I believe. Cheers and tight lines!!
@@GetUrFishOn Scott?
The Marshal should report any rule breaking. You left out the way it was said....very smart ass tone. Young scoper shoots to the top and has no respect. Disgusting, Swindle should have met "privately" with him.
👊👊🤕🤕 make him run to daddy
Respect your comment. I think there were more words left out of Swindles video that Trey said, but G made it professional. I agree completely with you. Cheers and tight lines!!
They both should report it. And their reports should match, without copying. It’s a lot like golf, as well. How may times has someone called in from watching a broadcast and seen a violation that was the n called on the course. Sometimes doing the right thing just don’t feel good but, it’s still right.
@@robertbell2978 AGREED!!! Cheers!!
Trey needs to be reigned in now as he’s having BASS fluff his peacock feathers up and in the end can create their own monster if you don’t hold the line of accountability. BASS doesn’t need the negative that MLF is facing now so hopefully they take the high high road and hold that line.
Trey learned the hard way and still came out on top. He's doing things right now that are scary. Cheers and tight lines!!
I think Gerald was absolutely right by doing what he did and he went about it the right way my opinion man to man. If he signs the form stating he didn’t see anything then I would have to question his integrity. I know Trey is young also but he needs to understand that all G is teaching him is to handle yourself correctly and admire him for that we got to respect the rules and the integrity of BASS. If not we will have another group like MLF that continues to look the other way for some people and that would be farming for our sport just my opinion.
Love this comment!! Cheers and tight lines!!
He did the right thing by reporting it but he shouldn't of cornered him in front of a BASS Media person. He shouldn't of posted a video, he also said he was fishing the bridge when it happened. It sounds like trey ran over what he was fishing. Use the oppurtinity to mentor him. Did Gerald has been know to break some rules himself. Shouldn't of posted the video until after talking with Trey again when he wasn't being backed into a corner. G can sound very confrontational because of his passion and personality.
It could have been handle differently, but I think both guys probably were on edge. Trey didn't know the zone. So he was probably defensive, and Swindle didn't want to call the young man out too. Cheers and tight lines!!
The Elite Bass Pro Fisherman should handle themselves and represent themselves as well as the organization to the highest level. They are Pro Elite bass fisherman.
AGREED!!! Cheers and tight lines!!
On a different note, I bought a truck from a used car lot, whose name was "Used Cars by Swindle." It turned out out be a great truck at a good price, but I could never get over the owner's name! PERFECT name for a used car salesman! LOL!
LOL thanks for this comment. Cheers and tight lines!!
If Gerald has so much "integrity " why doesn't he speak out against the livescope crap.
Hard to do that when he probably has a sponsorship from one of those businesses. Cheers and tight lines!!
Don't understand why Gerald feels thrown under the bus? Did he explain how he was thrown under the bus? Anyway, when people won't/don't follow the rules, it makes it hard on every competitor. The "G-Man" did the right thing! Anyone, especially someone relatively new, should be trying to do everything better!
He didn't not go into his feelings about being thrown under the bus. I think some naglers questioned him and he felt like he needed to make a video. Cheers and tight lines!!
Swindle is a stand up guy. Rules are rules, Trey knew what he signed up for.
Yes he did, he might not have listened to the video enough or knew the place they were talking about but rules are rules. Cheers and tight lines!!
I think the Co side should have to sign the same type of slip in the TOyota Series
I would completely agree with this. They all need someone to check things better. Cheers and tight lines!!
If these guys that break the rules are never called on what they did wrong, rule breaking would soon get very out of hand
It’s happens more than we all know. Gerald did the right thing. Cheers!!!
Reporting rules violations and doing it face to face is one thing. Making a video about it weeks later airing out a “perceived” slight is another all together. In other words, how will the world know Gee man is our hero if geee man doesn’t make a video and tell everybody about his heroism 😂😂😂
I think you missed the point. The kid had no respect for Swindle, he was trying to explain why he had to report it but of course the spoiled brat shook him off. Plus he only got a 90 min late start penalty for an infraction that could have killed someone. Pro fishing is a joke now...they bow down to these kids. I'm waiting for a good ole donnybrook right on the water. 🤣
@@guyfoscone3193 and nobody would know geee man:? Side unless gee man? Told us.
I think he made the video because he felt like he was being thrown under the bus. I do understand your comment too. How would we know? Cheers and tight lines!!
@@FunkE.Fisherman Are you thick or what? He was showing you what they portray on air isn't always the whole story. Trey is another kid that came out of nowhere due to you know what. And try some grammar- hard tell your point. ✌
@@guyfoscone3193 lol 😂 😂 g man was threatened by a 19 year old and had to make him look bad on social media when he wasn’t there to defend himself. I did not see ANYONE ANYWHERE COMMENT on g man turning this kid in , but weeks later we got ger man making a public video on social making the kid look bad. lol 😂
They have rules in place for a reason for community safety and boaters safety, you should police yourself a make good on it before someone does go to the director, an turn you in. There are repercussions for all actions.
Agreed!! I don't think Gerald was wrong at all. It's a learning thing for Trey. Cheers and tight lines!!
This was a safety violation, it absolutely needed to be reported. Trey should have manned up, but what do you expect from a kid.
Yes, and Trey learned his lesson. Thanks for the comment. Cheer and tight lines!!
I would love to see Trey apologize to Gerald. He is brand new to the game and has already unbalanced his momentum due to an infraction matched with rude and spoiled behavior. Not policing himself and having an attitude about it with a legend is also insanely disrespectful to Swindle, Bassmaster, and whatever fans he may have conjured up in recent months. The kid better wise up and stand on his own two feet and stop having Mommy and Daddy coddle him. He is an adult and should act like one.
He learned the hard way and probably apologized after heralds video, or let’s hope. Cheers!!
Did I miss something? BASS requires the signature stating a Pro did not see another Pro breaking any Rules. Gerald went up to Trey (I would have slapped him on the face - got his attention) and then told him what he did and have him protest himself with me along side himself. An 18 year old with the power of that Boat has No Life Skills (I did not say Fishing Skills). Bottom Line, by this happening, Gerald may have saved this young kids life somewhere in the future. Good Kid, I want nothing but the best for him and so does Gerald!
Respect!! I understand your take, and yes the anglers are supposed to police themselves and others. Trey made a simple mistake and paid his penalty. Cheers and tight lines!!
@@GetUrFishOn - Mistakes are only good if you learn from them and I do believe he learned from it. I'll betcha he doesn't make mistake again. Remember, you're just one cast away...
Seeing as I have always felt Trey was a spoiled rich worm this just help dispel that my feelings were right .trey is also in question for paying for knowledge for tournament lakes, hole sitting , and some other practice infractions . But seeing as his family has money he will prolly not get much more than a slap on wrist .
Respect your opinion. I don’t know about this family but he had to serve his penalty and still did well. Cheers!!
Anglers should know all the rules no matter who no wake or closed
Agreed, but this wasn't marked, but Trey should have known. He paid the penalty and still did great. Cheers and tight lines!!
Not following the tournament rules and you are called on it take your punishment otherwise if the rules are not enforced it gives bass fishing a bad name
RESPECT!! They need to be able to follow the rules. Cheers and tight lines!!
All the old heads comin after these younger anglers would naturally put them on the immediate defensive. Especially if they didnt know or didn’t think they were in the wrong. But swindle is a vet and did what was right. And I believe he did it in the correct order. But from what i have learned and experienced is that competitive bass fishing has a major good ol boys club issue along w some very selfish and entitled behavior. It can be very toxic. I don’t blame anyone for being on the defensive. But people should take notice of the respect that swindle handled this with and learn from it
Swindle did the right thing, Trey didn't know about the zone and had to pay the penalty. He learned the hard way and will continue to fish and build his brand. Cheers and tight lines!!
Yeah, treys goin nowhere lol. The kid is legit. And i agree w ya
You shouldn’t have to tell on them! Rules are rules!
It wasn't posted but I understand your side. Rules are rules!! Cheers and tight lines!!
Yes trey was wrong for not knowing the rules , however who would turn someone in that made an honest mistake. It’s not like he was trying to do something wrong … would it be right of an angler to turn someone in for them forgetting to throw on there life jacket for 3 seconds after they watch them stop and put it on because they forgot. This isn’t any different.
Trey paid the penalty, and it was an honest mistake. He still did really well. Cheers and tight lines!!
So what’s the drama? The guy violated the rules and he got caught.
That Gerald felt like he was thrown under the bus for reporting Trey. Rules are rules!! Cheers and tight lines!!
It’s not like you want to get involved or say something but sometimes you have too bottom line. It’s the way life is in general.
Yes it is. Gerald shouldn't have felt thrown under the bus for doing what is right. Cheers and tight lines!!
Sounds like the youngster acted like a smug prick about it
We haven’t heard his side but he probably wasn’t happy about the infraction. Cheers!!
Penalty could have been far worse. Remember swindle had his catch disqualified for his penalty. Someone has to police them, going way to far. I trust my eyes and my fishing instincts, the next elite series title; Mike Long Snagging Elite, brought to you by super sharp treble hooks 😜
Yes your correct. I think G did the right thing. Cheers and tight lines.
It’s not a hard decision it is being an adult an owning up to your mistake . Gerald didn’t make a hard decision he made the right decision . Gerald did what a MAN should do.
Agreed!! Cheers and thanks
I herd you say police yourself not each other
They have to police themselves and others! Sorry if I misspoke!! Cheers!!
Rules are there for everyone. And integrity is everything. Own up to your mistakes and move on. I feel like he was thrown under the bus.
I think his past issues didn’t help but he was correct. Trey had to learn the hard way. Cheers!!
You follow the rules and if that's the rules.
Agreed!! Cheers!!
What Trey did was wrong and he should've owned it. This isn't just the anglers passion, it's there job as well and they still have to provide for their families. There's always the chance that the rule that Trey broke gave him an unfair advantage over the other anglers which is basically taking money away from them. Gerald did the right thing and Trey didn't. That's on him and hopefully he learned from his mistake.
Agreed. Trey learned and still had a great tournament. Cheers!!
He and Andrew was both in the right when trey grows up he’ll understand and maybe so will Brian new
I do think Trey understands his mistake, and their is two sides to every story. Thanks for the comment. Cheers and tight lines!!
This is a simple answer. They either police themselves honestly or takeaway money from their pockets to put police is places that are most likely to get caught, but make the penalties much more difficult, like fines. Golf is a fine example, if you can’t play by their rules. They don’t want you playing. Those that can’t fish by the rules hurt the pro sport and that goes for any sport.
I love this! Penalties should be stiffer, and there should be more transparency so people who report people don't feel like they have been thrown under the bus. Cheers and tight lines!!
Why should Gerald take a chance of getting penalized if he didnt say anything and he was classy going to McKinney first and still getting a smart assed comment and a handshake from McKinney. Would McKinney have taken a chance of being penalized if he saw Gerald do something wrong, no way.
Gerald did the correct thing. Cheers!!
This is typical of the younger generation. Rules mean nothing to them. Its all about them.
I understand, but he did serve his penalty, but I do agree.Cheers and tight lines!!
First and foremost there is a dam Marshall on every boat. No need to pit GS on a pedestal here, he had to report it because if his Marshall did and he did not, now he is in the wrong. No discussion even worth having here.
There's usually a marshall in every boat if possible. But your right, but I am not putting him on a pedestal. Cheers and tight lines!!
Not you, this thing blew up and most posts left out the Marshall factor. GS was covering his ass as well!
@@NINERS8able Yes he was. I think the marshall probably felt pressure too and talked to the tournament director also. This thing went crazy. I've seen other videos and most are in agreement that G did the right thing. But their are two sides of every story. Cheers and tight lines!!
The fact that people are having a conversation and an opinion on an angler breaking a rule is mind blowing. You break a rule you pay the piper. He should been DQ’d for the day. There’s no discussion, opinions, arguments or anything else, rule violations have consequences plain and simple. Then there’s the whining and crying about when and how Gerald went about telling the rule breaker. Who cares who the hell was standing there, if you wouldn’t have broken rules you wouldn’t have that problem. You want to break rules and not pay attention you should maybe find another hobby or job.
Well Gerald had a problem in a Classic, and I don’t think he handled it well. He got up on the Classic stage and said at least I didn’t cheat! What did he mean by that? I have a huge amount of respect for Gerald since then. He definitely would do different now. Gerald was right and Trey seems very immature and needs to address that attitude.
Trey learned the hard way, Gerald also. Cheers!!
I can tell you what Ray would say about this .
LOL he might tell us at some time. Cheers and tight lines!!
Trey is lucky Gerald didn’t open up a can of whoop ass!!! Such a shame because up until that point I liked the young kid. He showed his cards on this one. Man up and take your medicine.
He made a mistake and did pay for it. He is learning. Cheers!!
LET ME HELP ON THIS PLEASE
1.
if I was fishing say by a bridge and someone didn't power down in time but did afterwards
""" I wouldn't say one word""
2. if someone does something but did it on purpose that is a huge difference you should get a DQ
IF YOU DO SOMETHING AND REALIZE IT WAS WRONG AFTERWARDS THEN NO DQ BUT U MUST WAIT AT TAKE OFF FOR 30 MINS OR SO
??????
if u take a polygraph at boat ramp in a car that took 30mins after 8 hours of fishing in 97 degrees
and get a inclusive
but out of pocket take one
from fbi that took 4 hours and control area and pass
what should happen ??
I don't know. There have been many inclusive polys and those anglers are DQ'd. Or at least they are supposed too. Cheers and tight lines!!
Easier to pass a polygraph when you don’t watch the rules meeting. Did you violate any rules? Nope, because I have no idea what the rules are.
Watching that pre-tournament meeting is their job. They should ask on the polygraph if they watched it. Didn’t watch. DQ’d
End the nonsense. Know the rules. Enforce the rules.
@davidgoodspeed362
agree 100%
it happen to me got a inclusive at boat ramp but I like my reputation so I paid out of picket at fbi to retest and pass
the fbi tester told me
hard to get a real test in 30 mins plus being in a car where folks walking by could cause a false
crazy with fbi it was hours in a control room
fact at the ramp 3 questions
at fbi 10 total
oooo by the way I did fail the safety question at fbi
after the test I ask the fbi guy why he said if I had any thoughts of not wearing my Vest when I crank up then that is probably why
the fbi guy went into detail
ramp test was not
For all the non accountable tattle tale police I'm not hearing a whole lot instances where the guys that got reported were completely innocent.
I think Gerald was innocent in this case, though he has had issues in the past. Cheers and tight lines!!
Somethings are subjective, others objective. If it is objective, then there is a clear right and wrong, and you’re obligated to do the right thing. If it is subjective, then it’s just a matter of opinion and there is no clear right or wrong.
This was objective I believe. Trey might not agreed or understood but that’s another situation. Cheers!!
@@GetUrFishOn if it’s in the rules, it’s objective and G acted as he obligated to.
Anybody mad at Gman is most likely a cheater and has zero integrity.
Its in the facking rules that u r supposed to ‘rat’ other cheaters out.
Yeah Gerald did the correct thing. Cheers and tight lines!!
Let’s put it this way if you see someone stealing from your neighbor you going to let it fly or call the police
LOVE THIS COMMENT. Thank you!! Cheers and tight lines!!