I was WRONG about Saka.
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Guys I was being sarcastic at 3:00 😂 regarding the response to the first leg. Call back to the first line
Granted it’s a bit subtle 😂
i think another factor is the immense arsenal hate worldwide. People are not used to arsenal having world class players and are still in denial.
Similar to England
@Ghfjgjggj123shdhfnfmdk Funny enough both squads have some of the best in the world lmao
Yeah those people do not know the history of arsenal
Arsenal is the only team that will make rivals and even some fans to think set-piece goals are maybe not legit
Agenda and personal bias, people us facts and statistics where it suits them
"Bro is just walking backward" i spilled on myself, caught off guard on that one 😂😂😂
The problem for saka is that's his best attribute is his brain. Hes super consitent but most of his goals are simple goals. Thats because he does the optimal strategy consistently. His humbleness also makes him take the best aspects from other players games ie mbappe near post shot. Pace isn't that crucial anymore because of all the deep blocks you play against when you have the control arteta wants
I think part of it is that he just such a nice guy. Nearly all the Arsenal and England squads say the same. When you look at Haaland, Ronaldo, Henry and others they all exuded a certain edge or ‘arrogance’ that projected a bit of the ‘I’m special’ aura. Saka just doesn’t have that. He just quietly goes about his work, thanks his God and gets on with everyone. I think many peoples perception of him is influenced by that. The numbers speak for themselves but he is just a ‘nice kid’, not a superstar in the making in many people’s eyes.
Wrote this 3/4 the way through the video, see you addressed this after.
He puts Jesus above football. If he's a true believer, he won't sacrifice his persona for the sake of "looking world class".
@@Grandmaster_Dragonbornbased
no aura 😂
Salah too seems quite nice. Ronaldinho was always smiling while humiliating everyone. Even young messi seemed like the nicest guy on pitch maybe just not the most charismatic.
Watch Saka again and i think it might be another attribute that you're mistaking for his "niceness"?
Bukayo Saka is a monster at such a young age he offers so much for us
you know what, I wish some fans would just leave it at your sentence. Because they are facts. Its his or any other players value to arsenal/our team. The "WC" debate and "go compare" conversation, isn't that important. How important is the player to your club, should be the question...
@@gooner_duke2756 I wish some fans would just wait until Saka wins something before blowing smoke up his arse...
@@JoshFord-zs8dg so with this are you saying that harry kane shouldn't be hyped because he hasn't won a trophy yet?
@@tochukwuezeanyaeche6283 Lol, typical Arsenal fan who thinks just because their Starboy hasn't won anything he's still world class because Harry Kane's won nothing too and he is Spineless
Which he's not for that very reason lol
You'll be telling us Ghostagaard's world class next too right?
@@tochukwuezeanyaeche6283 Only Arsenal fans hype Harry Kane because it makes them feel better that he's also misses important penalties (not decisive ones in finals though) and has won the same as 'world class' Bottle it Like Bukayo as in nothing.
Goals in big games and team success changes people's perceptions. Consistency throughout the season is only for the Arsenal fans to see. If you are a Gooner then you already know what Saka is
That’s the main problem. If you watch arsenal week in week out you know he’s top 3 RW in the world right now. However other fans won’t believe it until arsenal show success. In order to shut them up we need to start winning. Because we know they’re good enough to
If you are a Gooner then you fail to know that goals in big games and team success is only achieved whem them goals lead to success by winning a major trophy which sadly you haven't in the last 20 years
I dont know how to explain this,
But for me a world class, attacking player has that “Micheal Jordon-esque” attitude/mentality. I see this with Henry. That mindset “give me the ball, outta my way. Im bringing this home”.
That kinda mentality is increasingly less common in modern football bc teams always want more control and players have to serve the team/tactics. So really how many are world class if this is a criteria? Very few and you'd struggle to find a defender who has this 'world class' mentality
By your definition, Lebron James isn’t world class because he will always make the decision to pass to the open man if that is the correct read.
How did Michael Jodan and LeBron fluke into a football conversation 😂
@@AllyAlliue ikr, Jordan is arguably one of the biggest legends in all sport.
@SweetCeej correct but I'm still wondering how he got sneaked into a European football conversation 😂
As you said. I watch arsenal week in week out, and what Saka does is absolutely phenomenal. Rival fans wait for one game where he has not produced a goal and assist, and are quick to diminish him. He keeps getting better what a monster we have on our hands. At this rate if arsenal do end up winning big silverware, then he will definitely be in the debate for balon d'or. Buyako Saka.
Love Saka and I think his humility is an amazing attribute. Whether most people think he's world class or not, his positive impact on a lot of people is incredible.
2:20 The key to conparisons like that is that they were the same ages in those seasons. To non-Arsenal fans - we're not saying he is going to have a career on that level, but based on the performance Saka has had at such a young age it suggests he is likely to have an elite career BECAUSE the vast majority of players who have been so good between ages 19 and 22 have had elite careers.
Lmao @ the 'Brandon Williams debate' line 💀💀💀
If, as a player, you've started a weeks long debate about your skill measuring up to some arbitrary, subjective, increasingly meaningless term - you're clearly doing something right.
2:59 Erm, it's a game of two legs?
In my opinion, 2 things. The movie theory(don't know if this is right) with Saka ala Saliba. Where we saw how he struggled to get into the team and the controversy over how he was ready but not used by MA. Saka is perceived by the outside to not have gone through any of that and somehow had an easy way into the team. My 2nd opinion would be how he has fashioned his game on efficiency. How he has always made the right decision every time. The way he plays is not flashy and I think that adds to that image that he has.
And remember Saka started as a defender! What if he got into the first team as a winger?
He was only covering there as there was injury
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World class means you’re in the top 3 in the world in your position and you walk into every Starting XI in the world, even if the 1 or 2 world class player better are in the team, they’re so good that you play them in a different role because their ability and contribution is undeniable and invaluable
Saka fits that definition then, he starts for any time imo.
@@jamesrutterford576He doesn't make the world XI.
@@AJ-nd4nk I think world xi is a bit restrictive. By that logic either Kane or Haaland isn’t world class. To say that a player would start for any team somewhere on the pitch except for maybe 1 or 2 exceptions seems enough to me. Imo Saka starts for every single team in the world, at Liverpool he would just start on the left instead of the right.
I always love your content. Thank you
Brilliant as usual
What a brilliant analysis 😮💨
Almost drop kicked my tv yesterday
Brilliant point about Saka's linear development compared to the classic backstory of overcoming major injuries, struggles, etc. - love your original insights, man. Not heard that anywhere else. Also appreciate the meticulous presentation of stats. Keep up the ingenious analysis 👏👏👏
This video triggered a thought in me. When you mentioned how Ferguson's tacticts allowed Rondaldo to thrive in a way differently to Saka in Mikel's system, it made me think about Diego Simione potentially being so ahead of his time, hence the longevity of his stint at Atletico. Am I onto something or chatting bollocks? Football has just become way more defensive, tactical, and therfore less entertaining now, and if you don't conform to the rigidity of that playstyle you're unlikely to go far. It's hard to think of many maverick teams who play a domineering attacking playstyle in the prem I still love it but I kind of miss the excitement of 2000s/2010 premier leage. To me that is vintage barclays. Maybe I'm just having a weird nostalgia trip lmao idk I'm super stoned.
How did we exit the competition, we have the second leg!
it was a joke
I was waiting for your video all day to calm me down
Great video mate...
We should remember saka started his career as a left back and then after afew seasons moved to the wings...to be compared to Ronaldo at that age says alot ...the boys is world class
Doesn’t that remind you of a certain player who started at fullback, moved to the wings and started winning trophies as a regular starter for one of the biggest clubs in the world?
Saka did not start his career as a full back. Can we please stop with this narrative. He was always an attacker. His debut was as an attacker. He did a job at full back earlier on in his senior career because he was the best or only option at the time. But it was no secret his position was further forward.
We should also remember that saka's not going to win anything near to what Ronaldo has, not even on his XBox
It’s how saliba looks at saka for me.. like a proud father 😂
@@totsh2056 Regardless he got 3 goals and 10 assists playing as a LB/LWB in his first season at 17… He also did well defending. Thats phenomenal
Glad you ate humble pie,and admitted you were wrong;much respect 🙏 to you Sir #numerounodiehardgunnersgal. ARSENAL IN MY DNA!
Unrelated ,but i think we are loosing/ drawing the arsenal game on sunday ,if we win great!,ace! But if we dont pls ,pls i beg every arsenal fan that is seeing this ,lets not go online pointing fingers at our players i think they are in such a delicate point in the season ,they need our support ,thats why we are fans ,lets stop all this toxic nonsense we keep doing
One of the last points, his play style and Arteta’s play style, has been something I’ve banged on about for a while. Is Saka good? Yes. Is he excellent? Yes. Is he world class? Maybe, or probably.
He gets to display certain skillsets that a footballer possesses. He chooses, as adherence to instructions, to not do or try certain things. This results in a system-driven output (where brilliance and ability shine through in the key moments) that people might not relate to. But, still, the output is world class. My only holdup is that he won’t see the other, maybe more expressive, side of the game enough to develop into a player that can fit into any system and be effective in any system (at a world class level).
We (footballing world, pundits, etc) shouldn’t doubt his ability at all. We shouldn’t doubt the output. But I think the truth is that he is spicy sometimes; that he is a dog sometimes; that he puts everything on display sometimes. And, in the end, is that a bad thing?
One word for this analysis : Brilliant !
I think the perception of how good he is (like the perception of many of our players) will change when we win a Premier League or a Champions League. Even if they don't improve all that much, as soon as we win the big trophies suddenly they will go from great players to world class players in the eyes of the outside world
Hey what do you think of playing saka as central striker as we need goals in the team right now
"bro's just walking backwards" lmfao
Saka has become a modern day Andrew Cole. Does what he's paid to do consistently at an elite level but spends his career seriously underrated.
You forget that Andrew Cole played for a big UCL winning club where he won trophies
Just saying..
@@JoshFord-zs8dg Yeah, the same club with a ZERO gd rn, that same club
@aik1191 What's "gd rn"?
Is it similar to "wf aify" rn?
The difference is ronaldo spent his first few seasons with scholes and giggs in the midfield, while saka had guendouzi and elneny. Saka's stats are just amazing when you consider who else he's had in the team
People haven't got used to the idea of Arsenal being good again. If a big trophy is won this year, that changes.
Saka up untill now has proven to fold under real pressure. World Class players thrive under it. He has already missed two massive penalties for both club and country 1 for England v Italy and 1 for Arsenal v West Ham in the run in for the title, almost to prove that the England miss wasn't a one off deal. He is good, just not World Class yet. I agree with Rio, if and when he starts stepping up in moments like the ones mentioned above then he will be. Coming from an Arsenal fan, I think half of the problem is that he buy's into his own "starboy" hype that we've all created.
A teenager had the pressure of scoring the game winning penalty. More veteran teammates should have offered to take the penalty.
@@MT-zm4tn Pele and Mbappe both carried their countries to World Cup titles as "teenagers".
It's pure bias, they watch, they know how good he is, they just aren't willing to admit it.
2 years in a row 28+ g&a thats world class.
Finally someone explained it in the best way possible
World Class - a player good enough to get into any squad around the world
As an arsenal fan and saka supporter I will say this one thing it's going to be when arsenal wins something tangible that other teams will givee us our respect but until then all we can do is preach for the time to come
Just bought Saka shirt after watching this
Until you win big trophies rival fans wont consider you world class. Otherwise you have be consistant for several years to become undeniable, like Kane. Legendary players do both.
The moonwalking analogy is so true
I do wonder why there has to be so much debate over whether Bukayo Saka is world class or not. He is 22 yrs old, everyone needs to calm it down and just enjoy watching him .
I would put world-class in a top 8-10 of each position, in 3 consecutive year period. For top 4-5 in 4 consecutive year, I would categorize them as generational talent. Since I define a generation as 12 year period. 4/12 is generational, 6 or more out of 12 are iconic players. Given that they have to win multiple major trophies in this time period.
If we win either the Prem or Champions League this season everyone's perception will change!
I like Saka. He's under so much pressure for his tender years. I believe He will be world class at some point. If Arteta could manage better especially with rotation, it would help Saka a lot going forward.
I should add one more cm as in regular center midfielder ie. Xavi or prime pirlo
Trophies definitely helps sway opinions.
"Why is he the second best player after Kane" no he's not. He's the single carrier of the whole England's team: just watch the play-offs and how every moment is created by Saka and not anyone else.
I knew "Evil Saka" was a thing😂
Personally - I reckon we just say - he’s a great player and I’m glad is on our team.
Generally my hunch is players start getting talked about with more respect once they start winning trophies.
Like the gunners this season going under the radar, I don’t think it hurts to be an underdog and quietly/humbly go about your business.
Alex, great job at questioning your own opinion! Bravo 👏
Brother also said this is the year we will win the champions league
Me and my Dad both agree that Saka to Arsenal is what Salah is to Liverpool he is so so important to us if he doesnt work we dont work
Obsession with saka and world class is crazy...he needs to be consistent though but i think he will be good
Bros just walking backwards 😂😂
Hat him love him but can’t deny that boy does numbers and we all know numbers don’t lie
There are some players who in their performances show world class ability, but take years to develop the output (goals n assists). There are other players who immediately have the output but need to develop other parts of their game, Saka is in the second category for me, he has always had output, and is so consistent, but lacks an Xfactor, a Flair about his game that makes him stand out. But tbh most players these days have the flair coached out of them so it's not really surprising. He does the most important things in the game consistantly, which I guess can be considered world class
It's ridiculous how people think that you have to be arrogant or mean to be good. You can't be serious.
Why are we the only fan base who are desperate to prove to rivals we have a world class talent? who cares? If he's world class it will become evident soon enough. Let's just enjoy him for what he is and what will be will be #COYG
For me the term World class was completely changed by the Messi and CR7 Era, and the numbers they produced year in, year out. For me 30 goals contribution a season isn't world class, I can understand the argument of saka is not a striker. But for me world class players have a team built for them, and we saw a trend of wide forwards being the main goals source for many team in recent years and arsenal are that team at the moment with they're wingers being their superstars. Therefore for me to say Saka is a world class player he needs to be hitting the Mbappe level of goal scoring. 30+ goals plus assists per season. And Be the main man for England.
Arsenal exiting the champions league on Wednesday night? Mate there’s another leg to play
I dont even know if Saka is "World Class", but more G+A than Ronaldo over 210 professional games is some stat. And its hard to understate how unusual Saka's linear development is. He is not as explosive as Salah, but his consistency and reliability is also highly unusual.
Maybe I'm a biased arsenal fan (as are many of us here) but that lad is made of gold as far as I'm concerned.
The fact teams have to foul him or place 2-3 men on him tells you how dangerous he is.
Also, in a team where we have had many potential talents taken away from us by injury, it's nice to get a world class player who is resilient.
I'd probably go 3 years rather than 2 but decent definition
Can’t wait for “I was WRONG about Fabio”
He's back in the spotlight again. 'Is he world class?' 'Saka vs Foden' etc. People have been downplaying his ability for too long. This is his coming of age. I saw exactly what you saw with that celebration. To me, it was confident but not cocky. Like, a big shoutout to all those who called him predictable saying he only cuts in on his left and shoots. The only thing predictable is him bagging, assisting or otherwise killing it 1v1 on his side.
He's literally above CR7, Salah & KDB were at the same age- there's no argument against that as it's an easy fact. Only question is whether he can keep improving, which, with his natural workrate and humble attitude, you would have to say it's likely.
The only real question is when will he move to a big club to have his his natural workrate and humble attitude put to good use and win something?
You would have to say that after 6 trophy less years at Arsenal it's likely to be sooner than you think...
bro has never heard of the FA cup
People wanna see goalazzos and fit wingers to have that attitude to match. The young man is SO fundamentally sound and a truly nice guy, so people subconsciously dock him for it. Mean killers are more eye-catching
Tell us did we win on field tilt against porto? 🙄
well according to transfer markt he is worth 120 mio which puts him in 5th place. at least someone values him
"world-class" is bandied around like a joke these days... name me a single player today, close to doing what Kaka did for near a decade. Name me today's Ronaldinho, Maldini, Batistuta, Del Piero, Desailly, Terry, Adams, Ljungberg, Henry, Peres, Zidane, Gerrard, Nedved ( I can do this all day folks) and there was no xG or records for goals back then, it was the eye test and consistency. Moments of magic on a consistent basis and opposition teams making sure THAT player doesn't perform... I haven't even named Messi, the 2 Ronaldos, Eto'o, Raúl or Hazard... Saka is average, like most of today's players. That's why City are the best. They have all of the top talent, with the best manager. Everybody else is trying to keep pace
I think one of the biggest catalysts is he missed the penalty in the final. He's associated by fans from foreign countries as the man that bottled it for England and I think a lot of rivals especially online hate him for it like they hate Rashford and Sancho.
We know how good he is and that's whats important. You can't have 28 goal involvements in February and not be world class
28 goal involvements in February and still not winning anything isn't world class
It's a sign that he's not playing for a big club
@@JoshFord-zs8dg 🤣🤣 he's got 28 goal involvements but isn't world class because he isn't playing for a big club? So when Harry Kane spent 8 odd years and Spurs, he wasn't world class because Spurs didn't win anything? Exactly the argument is stupid, it's not a debate about trophies it's about ability.
@@Ghfjgjggj123shdhfnfmdk Lol, typical plastic Arsenal fan who thinks Harry Kane's not world class (which he isn't) because he won nothing but their fake Starboy Bottle it Like Bukayo is because 'he's got 28 goal involvements' but forgetting that he's won fcuk all in his career (other than a bill for flooding Wembley with his tears after letting his country down) because he plays for a small club
@@Ghfjgjggj123shdhfnfmdk Lol, Bottle it Like Bukayo has got 28 goal involvements without winning fuck all in his career at a small club so he's world class loooool
Mug
My standard of world class player is consistency for 3 years on every level
There are some people who think at 18 a player is a finished product and will never improve.
Saka is a baller 🔥 🔥
One day teams will fear saka like they did Alexis
My definition is top 5 in their position. so in theory there can be 5x11(55) world class players in the world.
Quedtion here. Would any doubter consider Saliba a world class player? I bet you he is.
Another question: Will Saka walk into any of the buggest clubs in europe? Hell Yes
I guess these questions should help in making a judgement. Saka is a top top player, and I consider him a world class player. He is the tip player on a world class team. How do you explain that away?
Technically top like 5-10 in their position are world class but the top guy is usually way better then the rest like of there was a list type shit but there is most definitely more so called world class players then 3 In each position
Vini, Saka, Salah, Sané. World class wingers.
and son
Why does everyone forget about the second leg? 😅
Saka is not yet a world class player despite him being so talented he has to do a lot and he has to be so consistent and above all he has to score more goals like the way Ronaldo did
He is world class. He bettered Ronaldo 7's 210 record nuff said end of Source - Sky Sports News
It’s just like how the media and pundits talk about how world class jack grealish is but Saka isn’t??
Don’t forget Saka played at LB for a time period so goals and assists could of been even better if he actually stayed at RW
Stop doubting him
imo world class means you play for your country. be it, the top 1 position of an entire country. I think top 3 in the world I would rather call ''one of the best in the world''
Actually and unfortunately… the reality is…as a striker it’s the numbers and in Saka’s position it’s the type of goals. Lower numbers and ‘worldy’ type of goals and people would say world class. Simple.
I think it's because Saka lacks flair, and it's an exceptional dribbler.
If Saka had the dribbling skills of Doku, or Mitoma, he would be considered World Class by all.
Bro just walking backwards 😂
Saka will be world class
Minute 3:00 Despite Arsenal EXITING the CL?🤔🤔🤔
Sarcasm - related to the opening
It’s more of an eye test bias that dosent favour Saka, but the numbers don’t lie, I don’t personally think we can attribute this all to “Arsenal hate”. I think generally when players are world class they capture a level of respect amongst all fans.
Ahh second lol
Saka does the basics extremely well, near perfect. But world class has always come down to “moments”. I remember more Peter Crouch moments than Saka tbh…then again, the boys 22 and I personally believe he’ll become world class given where he is rn
Peter Crouch is EPL proven player and is now retired. Saka is 22 with many years ahead of him
@@yimnatawandanyika yup, exactly
@@user-tz2yp5jl2w I acknowledge he isn't at that level yet but the disrespectful commentary on him is crazy like they compared him to Doku FFS. If Foden is world class then Saka is world class. IMO it's Saka, Foden, Palmer, Olise then Garnacho.
@@yimnatawandanyika I don’t think we should care what they say tbh
Did you say they exited the competition? Lol