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If you cant change the ECU program, I dont understand why You dont create a ECU that uses the analog input from your o2 sensor and then sends a offset analog input into the stock ECU ????
The installation of an aftermarket ecu and all items required to allow it to properly function would cure all of this. It would also make it a race bike that requires highly skilled tuner(s). We are not in the race bike business. We are in the simple/economical to bolt-on and go enjoy your bike business.
AWESOME! Great to see progress and smart tuning. Its great to see a tuner looking out for us customers. I also love the new damper, I will definitely pick one up, this bike needs it.
Well I’m def a little confused but I almost cried when you mentioned the steering damper, it’s a been a rough 13k miles, 🙌🏿 to the Kawasaki tuning lord that is, Brock Davidson
Z H2 Steering Damper Kit is LIVE in our store and available for Pre-Order Now. It's even on SALE until December 4, 2020. Use Coupon Code: CYBER20 at checkout and shipping is also FREE: bit.ly/2VqEurk
Yah. Yesterday I took the ZH2 again. The acceleration at cold 3 degrees in gear 4 is pretty much the same as at 30 degrees in Gear 3. I recognized that the wheele started with gear 3, full throttle and a little pull at 30 degrees. The same behavior in 4th gear at 3 degrees :D
Love nerd time with Brock, little different than pulling secondary flies back in 2008 on the zx14 but still the same. Maximizing what's really hidden in there. Used my new Brocks Bitubo damper at Tally for the 1st time and can definitely feel a a little more confident when the front wheel touches back down at over the 100+ mark.
I generally only like watching vids that are around 10min long but your so damn interesting that I really enjoy your almost hr long vids and I watch them over and over again to try to gain some of your knowledge.
As a long time car/bike nerd, thank you! Never have I clicked on one of your technical videos and not learned something. You have an excellent way of explaining this stuff. Thanks for the lesson👍🏻
Brock, I really like watching your videos from beginning to end, because it’s fun to pretend that I understand more than 10% of what you’re talking about. 😆🤷🏻♂️🤯
@@MariusGuitar2007 No, sorry I wasn’t clear in what I said. I watched it on a laptop, when I Say on the zh2 I meant I was sat on the zh2 watching the video on a laptop 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Chris at CJS is now able to map the H2 via the diagnostic port. So no need to remove the ECU for tuning, massively convenient as ECU is a pita to remove on European spec bikes as locked in with tamper proof bolts. Unfortunately still no way to do this on ZH2... yet. Very interesting video, didn't realise throttle was shut at low RPM also! Great vid 👍
Testimonial, of sorts: Picked up 6 mph on top end and more available with 1 or 2 t off rear sprocket. 169 mph, full pipe, Power commander and Sprint filter from Brock. Prior run was 163 mph , with slip on, stock filter and no Power Commander. 169 run, yesterday: czcams.com/video/ujO6IHzSGis/video.html 163 run, czcams.com/video/Ch-tfTboTmc/video.html
It will eventually be unlocked, but it's 100% impossible to know when that might happen, so the the PCV is the only current means available to adjust the fuel.
It’s funny that one would get this bike and say to himself “ now I need to do some upgrades’, the thing stock is insane fast stock, and you would not be hurting for power or performance. But I get I it’s fun to tinker, the VH tuner really spiced up my softails engine, but this is a whole different animal.
"insanely fast" is a matter of perception. If you come from the HD world...your statement makes perfect sense. If you come from our world...yawn in stock form.
How would you know top rpm throttle cut is due to emissions? Could it be for traction control? For going fast in the corners traction control cutting throttle is very abrupt and upsets the bike a lot. maybe factory tune is designed so that throttle is not open in the first place until ecu can detect there is no wheel spin and then it will open 100%. That way if traction control needs to interrupt it will be smooth.
The US models have these restrictions. Even Euro 5 approved models do not in other countries. What you are describing with traction control happens in lower gears, at lower throttle openings and rpm's.
After running my ZH2 a few times at Atco, I've pretty much determined that this is not a very good bike for drag racing. No, I didn't invest significant money into the swingarm extensions and everything else needed to give the bike a longer wheelbase, but I did gear it taller with a 19 tooth front sprocket, remove the stock air filter(only when the bike was being used at the drag strip), lowered the front by one inch, and strapped the forks down as far as I could get them. I even ran with a full tank of 93 octane fuel in hopes the extra weight in that location would help keep the front end down, which it did. Even though I'm 210 pounds fully suited and no pro drag racer, I've been drag racing bikes since 1977 and have done pretty well overall. The ZH2 just doesn't have the low end torque to get any decent 60' numbers like say a stock ZX14R does. The ZH2 weighs a lot less than the 14R and is rated at the same 197 hp but out of the hole it's just not enough. My best ET was a poor 10.56 and my best trap speed was a so-so 142.16 mph.Unless the torque can be made to come on a lot sooner, I don't see how this is going to be a decent bike at the dragstrip. I will say that from as low as a 40-50 mph roll on race, it is very potent! It is just disappointing as a drag bike :(
@@jockojockoson9995 First, people actually still use "lol"?? How childish. Second, name me one factory stock, mass produced motorcycle that is meant to be a drag bike. In my world, you can drag race pretty much any self propelled vehicle at a drag strip. Teslas for instance have been raced at drag strips as shown on many CZcams videos , as have been anything from "bagger" harleys to quads, old station wagons to pit bikes, none of which are "meant" to be used as drag vehicles. I enjoy drag racing and have been doing so since 1977 on my then new Kawasaki KZ1000. The only factory motorcycle that I'm aware of as being "meant" to be, or intended to be "drag bike" was the Kawasaki 900 Eliminator of 1985. My 2002 Kawasaki ZX-12R Ninja was much quicker at the drag strip than my ZH2 . The Ninja had less peak torque than the ZH2, but had more low end torque making it easier to launch hard plus it was a bigger bike with a longer wheelbase and thus was much less prone to doing a wheelie. Your turn.............
Between the wheelbase, huge restrictions and assist clutch...10.50s sounds about right. That said, once all is corrected the Z H2 will be a solid 8 second machine.
This is a great and informative video... What would be really cool is if you could do three test. And it may have to be on something a little older. But it would be great to see a stock run with a full exhaust on a bike. Then put in a dynojet map to see the results. Then see a dyno tune by you to see the differences in the three. Everyone always claims the maps on their website aren't great, but it would be cool to see the true differences. I know on my old K6 750 it ran the best with the 2 Brothers map because it was adding a lot of fuel to it.
The problem we see with the DJ maps is that most are created in the high desert of Northern Nevada...which means that's where they work best. Once you get to areas closer to sea level, they must be adjusted to work properly.
My thoughts : its a naked bike. i'm not sure if i want it to go more than 160mph ...it's a street bike...a slip on - or a full exhaust system to reduce weight , and i'm sure a steering damper would help the cause under hard acceleration...thats all i would do , plus save money for tires....( 14.7 : 1 @ sea level )- is the best air fuel ratio.
PLEASE do not tune your AFR to 14.7 for anything other than low load cruising, as severe engine damage can result after sustained high rpm use. We shoot for 12.8-13.2 for most bikes. More info: bit.ly/37yLNUR
Can you build an o2 sensor interface between the sensor and ecu? The interface would tell the ecu that the engine is running leaner than it actually is? That would richen up the cruise range.
Looking verry good 👍 I am very curious what you can do with other velocity stacks and supercharger gearing on this bike .... Keep the nice videos comming...
Smash that like button! Shake and bake! Sure would like to take the Z for a spin! Is the PC5 fighting the ECU for control? ECU lockout, welcome to the future.
Brock, the master of them all. Please do tell, is this OBD tool useful for other models from Kawasaki and other brands..? Yamaha, SSuzuki, Honda.. BMW.. etc Also, where did you bought the adapter from? I really need such tool.
only 33 k plus subs, oof still tho like the way you do it , i'm more the trackdays setup guys, and getting a good map will cost ya dearly ;) what i learned in the past 10 years .. it would have saved me some bucks a bitubo specialst is just an hour driving away from he did alot ilse man tt stuff and BSB learned a few tricks about supension :D
If you are waiting for the quantity available 0's to turn to + anything...you may be waiting a VERY long time. Example: we recently received 50 on a hot-selling Penta-Carbon exhaust. By the time they arrived, 55 were already on order (backorder), so the first 50 to order received systems and the remaining five have to wait for another order, (which takes at least 8-12 weeks). So 50 pipes went out the door and the numbers in the store never changed from 0. If you want one, you need to place your order and wait (sorry). Our system ONLY knows first in/first out. It's a crazy time in our industry right now and we expect it to be this way well into 2021.
Update went 2 teeth smaller 46 > 44 on rear sprocket and went from 169 mph to 176. Will try 43 t , next. Very steady at speed , even with no steering dampener. Gearing didn't make my inst go crazy and throw code like my 400 Ninja. Today's run: czcams.com/video/1stxbAhMxoE/video.html
So what did you do... make the afr 13.6 on a boosted engine...that should blow up nicely! My goodness, I really suggest you look at your tuning and understand air fuel ratios with forced induction..
Newb question. @brockdavidson For tuning a bike like this, or any torque rich bike that has 6 axis imu, can you take acct > lean angle = < throttle open position? 100% throttle on any h2 at 4k rpm may be a bit too much for mortals 😎
The fuel tuning is 100% seperate from rider controls. Example: proper AFR is proper AFR, regardless of if you have all rider controls turned off, or you are in rain mode with TC maxxed out where even an H2 won't spin the tire in a gravel parking lot. I can tell you that a bone stock H2 with the KTRC turned off will scratch up the back of your helmet quicker than you can say "what just happened?!"
@@BrockDavidson Oh damn, i thought you guys managed to crack it in this video.. Ah well. i still look forward to when you guys do! Much love from down under brother, keep up the awesome work :)
I'm confused Brock haha, if i JUST put a slip on on , leave the stock air filter with no tune will my bike throw up codes on the dash and stop? or will the slip on be safe and not do any damage?
The supercharged kaws respond like normally aspirated bikes on the dyno...so lean is mean. Unfortunately, some dyno operators don't realize how mean leanness can be to the engine...
@@BrockDavidson the Kawasaki does not respond like a normally aspirated engine. I’ve used a knock link on a H2. These things knock on Australian pump 98 octane which is the same as your 93 when the afr is leaner than 12.5 and especially if your pushing timing. 13.6 is crazy especially with how high the IATs are, I wouldn’t even tune any NA bike that lean, unless your afr probe is actually incorrect and showing leaner falsely. Why would you stress an engine out that much for what 2 hp or so. As you know, bike motors are tough but after a while the motor will only take so much heat and detonation before something goes wrong. I would really advise on a decent knock unit when tuning these in the future.
@@BrockDavidson unfortunately.. and they havent figured out how to standardize anything for longer than a specific model's run, real PITA trying find the plug-ins and trying to service them.
Great question. Is it really "ram air" in a supercharged application? Or simply improved intake filling ability? I can tell you that our Ninja H2 data logging in LSR shows the AFR becomes consistently leaner as the bike gains speed, but the ECU does not compensate for this. That's a major reason we also install a PCV on any supercharged Kaw that we race, so we can control the AFR ourselves.
Hi !! Me again . I have purchased the PCV from you and was eventually installed yesterday ... I for the life of me cannot remember if it had the map already installed. Also does the rider mode need to be set in a certain setting ie - Rider or Sport or Road ?? Sorry but hope you can help me
Stay away from rider mode. Road Mode is least aggressive, start there and then move up to Sport Mode once you are comfortable. There will be a white, hand written tag on the back of your PCV if we installed a map. You will need a laptop and the Dynojet PCV software to confirm it is the correct map for your application. DO NOT run the stock map in a flashed ECU as severe engine damage can quickly occur.
@@BrockDavidson Thanks for the reply! I rode it in sport and it really didn't feel much different , I will double check the bottom of the PCV and go from there. Thanks again for the advice.. 👍
For cruising, we shoot for around 13.2-1 on the H2’s and WOT 12.8-1 for drag and 12.0-1 for LSR. These reference numbers assume a 5 wire sensor is placed directly into the exhaust bung in our pipe.
Since the throttle blades are constantly monitored, as soon as they are in a position that the ECU did not request - the bike will throw codes and go into limp mode.
Hi Brock. I was about to check out my cart last week in your web site i was about to buy the complete kit for extended swing arm for my Z H2, I did not proceed because there was no ready available extended brake line kit from Spiegler. Your Sales staff Steve Sex knows this. I forwarded my communication with Spiegler to Steve. Please give me update on this. Thank you very much.
Brock i am so happy and sad... Happy because your sprint filter and pcv is already here but the brocks penta carbon exhaust and other performance parts are "still awaiting fulfillment" (ordered 05/03/21) I still cannot install the pcv on my bike because the pcv according to you is pretuned and matches your penta exhaust 😥😢😭. Please tell Steve and Karissa to expedite my orders i am proudly advertising your products here in Ph via CZcams Brock. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎💖💗💛💞💕💟
Hi Brock, will you please help me expedite my orders from you? Still "WAITING FULFILLMENT" for more than two months now ( order ending 982).. My project bike Z H2 is pending at this moment. I cannot install the Dynojet PCV without your PENTA CARBON exhaust... ( Brock, can i install your PCV now using other brand of exhaust for the meantime? SPRINT FILTER ALREADY INSTALLED). Hope to hear from you soon THANK YOU! 🥰😍🤩😇
Hello TITO, what you are going through sucks and we feel for you. Unfortunately, it's a sign of the times that will take a while to get sorted. All we can ask of you is to have a bit more patience. Please use the blue support button at the bottom right at Brock's performance.com. Type in "where is my order" and it will guide you to our best estimate on the actual ship date.
Thank you so much Brock. You are my Angel in building my litle monster zh2. I can now run 290kph just the sprinter upgrade alone. I am keeping these Brock'$ Performance upgrades a secret in my youtube channel lol😇
essa moto não tem ECU desbloqueada ainda nao, pelo que entendi, mesmo com power comander se ele fizesse alguma alteração na mistura e no ponto de ignição, a injeção altomaticamento não permitiria, iria ficar corrigindo a alteração no combustivel para mais ou menos, e acima de 9 mil rpm o acelerador ele vai se fechando até uma certa porcentagem, com o acelerador desbloqueado 101% essa moto tem potencial para mais de 240HP de roda, 260HP com combustivel de "corrida" igual a H2SX, ambos tem o mesmo motor taxa de compressão etc, sem alterar em nada nas engrenagens do supecharger, um monstrinho de Naked, deve ser o maximo andar com essa moto, potencia o tempo inteiro sem lag, show.
We will have them mid December. Watch our store and place your order, even if they show no inventory. Our system automatically puts you in line and its first come first serve.
@@BrockDavidson can you put them up on the website so we can get in on some “Black Friday” deals?! I’ve been checking 2-3 times a day for this system to go live!! Lololol
Why does this bike have to go any faster. Nobody on this planet can ride it to it's full potential as a standard bike on the road anyway. Bragging rights maybe only
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Have you tried a Service mode? Is there one?
If you cant change the ECU program, I dont understand why You dont create a ECU that uses the analog input from your o2 sensor and then sends a offset analog input into the stock ECU ????
The installation of an aftermarket ecu and all items required to allow it to properly function would cure all of this. It would also make it a race bike that requires highly skilled tuner(s). We are not in the race bike business. We are in the simple/economical to bolt-on and go enjoy your bike business.
czcams.com/video/jeLsEJ8e9L0/video.html BROCK!!!!!
Who else leans in every time the camera goes up to see the horsepower? Great video, keep them coming.
We have nothing to hide. Thanks for the kind words.
AWESOME! Great to see progress and smart tuning. Its great to see a tuner looking out for us customers. I also love the new damper, I will definitely pick one up, this bike needs it.
Well I’m def a little confused but I almost cried when you mentioned the steering damper, it’s a been a rough 13k miles, 🙌🏿 to the Kawasaki tuning lord that is, Brock Davidson
Z H2 Steering Damper Kit is LIVE in our store and available for Pre-Order Now. It's even on SALE until December 4, 2020. Use Coupon Code: CYBER20 at checkout and shipping is also FREE: bit.ly/2VqEurk
Does the 2021 Z H2 come with steering damper standard???????
Just got my Penta carbon for my H2 SX couldn’t be happier love that you’re always pushing a boulder uphill thanks, Brocks.
Likes and subscribed. Even have parts in my Brock’s Performance cart waiting for my 2021 ZH2 to come in! 😁
Every brocks video gets the thumps up from me fantastic content 👍👍
Thanks!
This explains why my bike is faster on cool low humidity days. Thanks great content keep up the good work.
Yah. Yesterday I took the ZH2 again.
The acceleration at cold 3 degrees in gear 4 is pretty much the same as at 30 degrees in Gear 3.
I recognized that the wheele started with gear 3, full throttle and a little pull at 30 degrees.
The same behavior in 4th gear at 3 degrees :D
The steering dampener is going to be a must on mine!
Wow.. You are sir a bikeopedia . Huge respect.
Mind blown about Auto tune rich part.
Love nerd time with Brock, little different than pulling secondary flies back in 2008 on the zx14 but still the same. Maximizing what's really hidden in there. Used my new Brocks Bitubo damper at Tally for the 1st time and can definitely feel a a little more confident when the front wheel touches back down at over the 100+ mark.
I generally only like watching vids that are around 10min long but your so damn interesting that I really enjoy your almost hr long vids and I watch them over and over again to try to gain some of your knowledge.
As a long time car/bike nerd, thank you! Never have I clicked on one of your technical videos and not learned something. You have an excellent way of explaining this stuff. Thanks for the lesson👍🏻
Glad to help!
Thanks so much for putting this series together. Super informative
Brock, I really like watching your videos from beginning to end, because it’s fun to pretend that I understand more than 10% of what you’re talking about. 😆🤷🏻♂️🤯
You're working hard Brock! We will get "our horses" hidden in the Z H2 thanks to you! 👍 The steering damper will also be on my purchase list!
Once more an amazing video. Awesome job. You´re fantastic Brock! Greetings from a Brazilian subscriber.
Ive watched all these on the zh2, this video completely blew my mind !!
Can you watch youtube on the z h2 TFT-screen??
@@MariusGuitar2007 No, sorry I wasn’t clear in what I said. I watched it on a laptop, when I Say on the zh2 I meant I was sat on the zh2 watching the video on a laptop 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Chris at CJS is now able to map the H2 via the diagnostic port. So no need to remove the ECU for tuning, massively convenient as ECU is a pita to remove on European spec bikes as locked in with tamper proof bolts. Unfortunately still no way to do this on ZH2... yet. Very interesting video, didn't realise throttle was shut at low RPM also! Great vid 👍
Love to see Brock packing some heat, even on the dyno!
better have them make a lot of those steering dampeners. They're going to sell like hotcakes. Thanks for the updates!
For a select group for sure. The ear drum breakers would get me so many tickets in Japan.
Great Progress. I was waiting for a steering dampener to become available. This bike is on my list for 2021.
Testimonial, of sorts: Picked up 6 mph on top end and more available with 1 or 2 t off rear sprocket. 169 mph, full pipe, Power commander and Sprint filter from Brock.
Prior run was 163 mph , with slip on, stock filter and no Power Commander.
169 run, yesterday: czcams.com/video/ujO6IHzSGis/video.html
163 run, czcams.com/video/Ch-tfTboTmc/video.html
Thank you Brock. You make dyno tuning very easy to understand. It's really cool how you can do a workaround from the OEM ECU.
More to come!
Awesome video, great description as always. I’ve got the same problem with my 2020 R1. No one has been able to unlock the ECU yet.
Not surprisingly, the new R1 and Z H2 both have the same new processor and anti-tamper technology.
@@BrockDavidson Do you think the ECU’s will be able to be unlocked or is a piggy back controller the best we can hope for?
It will eventually be unlocked, but it's 100% impossible to know when that might happen, so the the PCV is the only current means available to adjust the fuel.
Genuinely good products for bikes most people’s complaints come from improper installation
Awesome to see you putting out the steering damper my 2019 h2 tank squeals! Really enjoyed the video ! Team Kawi!
Enjoyed all the technical tib bits, nice work!
Great channel Brock, I'm looking forward to your next ZH2 video.
Greetings from Germany.
Coming soon!
It’s funny that one would get this bike and say to himself “ now I need to do some upgrades’, the thing stock is insane fast stock, and you would not be hurting for power or performance. But I get I it’s fun to tinker, the VH tuner really spiced up my softails engine, but this is a whole different animal.
"insanely fast" is a matter of perception. If you come from the HD world...your statement makes perfect sense. If you come from our world...yawn in stock form.
This guy is the coolest I wish he was on the west coast
check this out: blog.brocksperformance.com/ufaqs/do-i-need-to-physically-bring-my-bike-to-brocks-performance-in-ohio-for-a-performance-tune/
always good to learn more from you brock. and one more thing do you send item to israel so i can bye some of your stuff
Glad you like and we ship internationally 👍👍
Great video. Can't wait for when you achieve breakthrough!!
You and me both!
You never bore me with anything & i wanna know All you know about bikes & tuning. If i could i would eat your brain to gain your knowledge.😂🤪
lol, thanks! (I think? 😉)
Great vid again B! 💪🔥
How would you know top rpm throttle cut is due to emissions? Could it be for traction control? For going fast in the corners traction control cutting throttle is very abrupt and upsets the bike a lot. maybe factory tune is designed so that throttle is not open in the first place until ecu can detect there is no wheel spin and then it will open 100%. That way if traction control needs to interrupt it will be smooth.
The US models have these restrictions. Even Euro 5 approved models do not in other countries. What you are describing with traction control happens in lower gears, at lower throttle openings and rpm's.
@@BrockDavidson got it. Thanks for informative videos and explanations!
After running my ZH2 a few times at Atco, I've pretty much determined that this is not a very good bike for drag racing. No, I didn't invest significant money into the swingarm extensions and everything else needed to give the bike a longer wheelbase, but I did gear it taller with a 19 tooth front sprocket, remove the stock air filter(only when the bike was being used at the drag strip), lowered the front by one inch, and strapped the forks down as far as I could get them. I even ran with a full tank of 93 octane fuel in hopes the extra weight in that location would help keep the front end down, which it did.
Even though I'm 210 pounds fully suited and no pro drag racer, I've been drag racing bikes since 1977 and have done pretty well overall.
The ZH2 just doesn't have the low end torque to get any decent 60' numbers like say a stock ZX14R does. The ZH2 weighs a lot less than the 14R and is rated at the same 197 hp but out of the hole it's just not enough. My best ET was a poor 10.56 and my best trap speed was a so-so 142.16 mph.Unless the torque can be made to come on a lot sooner, I don't see how this is going to be a decent bike at the dragstrip.
I will say that from as low as a 40-50 mph roll on race, it is very potent! It is just disappointing as a drag bike :(
After all those years as a drag racer you should know that it’s not meant to be a drag bike lol.
@@jockojockoson9995 First, people actually still use "lol"?? How childish. Second, name me one factory stock, mass produced motorcycle that is meant to be a drag bike. In my world, you can drag race pretty much any self propelled vehicle at a drag strip. Teslas for instance have been raced at drag strips as shown on many CZcams videos , as have been anything from "bagger" harleys to quads, old station wagons to pit bikes, none of which are "meant" to be used as drag vehicles.
I enjoy drag racing and have been doing so since 1977 on my then new Kawasaki KZ1000. The only factory motorcycle that I'm aware of as being "meant" to be, or intended to be "drag bike" was the Kawasaki 900 Eliminator of 1985. My 2002 Kawasaki ZX-12R Ninja was much quicker at the drag strip than my ZH2 . The Ninja had less peak torque than the ZH2, but had more low end torque making it easier to launch hard plus it was a bigger bike with a longer wheelbase and thus was much less prone to doing a wheelie.
Your turn.............
Between the wheelbase, huge restrictions and assist clutch...10.50s sounds about right. That said, once all is corrected the Z H2 will be a solid 8 second machine.
Very cool. Looking forward to the damper!
Coming soon!
Im amazed how de-tuned this H2 motor is. You had the H2 SX making over 240HP+.
Today's new normal...
This is a great and informative video...
What would be really cool is if you could do three test. And it may have to be on something a little older.
But it would be great to see a stock run with a full exhaust on a bike. Then put in a dynojet map to see the results. Then see a dyno tune by you to see the differences in the three.
Everyone always claims the maps on their website aren't great, but it would be cool to see the true differences.
I know on my old K6 750 it ran the best with the 2 Brothers map because it was adding a lot of fuel to it.
The problem we see with the DJ maps is that most are created in the high desert of Northern Nevada...which means that's where they work best. Once you get to areas closer to sea level, they must be adjusted to work properly.
I see... So that's why it wanted the maps with more fuel to it. That makes sense and never really thought of why it was that way.
My thoughts : its a naked bike. i'm not sure if i want it to go more than 160mph ...it's a street bike...a slip on - or a full exhaust system to reduce weight , and i'm sure a steering damper would help the cause under hard acceleration...thats all i would do , plus save money for tires....( 14.7 : 1 @ sea level )- is the best air fuel ratio.
PLEASE do not tune your AFR to 14.7 for anything other than low load cruising, as severe engine damage can result after sustained high rpm use. We shoot for 12.8-13.2 for most bikes.
More info: bit.ly/37yLNUR
Cheers brock. Good vid as always. Good info and well made
. I will keep my eyes out for you steering damper kit :-)
Thanks 👍
Always appreciated for great information.
Glad to help
Can you build an o2 sensor interface between the sensor and ecu? The interface would tell the ecu that the engine is running leaner than it actually is? That would richen up the cruise range.
We are really close to getting this done properly.
Looking verry good 👍 I am very curious what you can do with other velocity stacks and supercharger gearing on this bike .... Keep the nice videos comming...
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Smash that like button! Shake and bake! Sure would like to take the Z for a spin! Is the PC5 fighting the ECU for control? ECU lockout, welcome to the future.
They are fighting without the ability to derestrict the ecu... but we have them both playing nice.
Brock, the master of them all.
Please do tell, is this OBD tool useful for other models from Kawasaki and other brands..? Yamaha, SSuzuki, Honda.. BMW.. etc
Also, where did you bought the adapter from?
I really need such tool.
Amazing!
Waited a long time for this video
Hope you enjoyed it.
@@BrockDavidson I absolutely did , thank you
only 33 k plus subs, oof still tho like the way you do it ,
i'm more the trackdays setup guys, and getting a good map will cost ya dearly ;)
what i learned in the past 10 years .. it would have saved me some bucks
a bitubo specialst is just an hour driving away from he did alot ilse man tt stuff and BSB
learned a few tricks about supension :D
Great video as always!! One question I have is though, when can we expect stock availability on some of the out of stock exhaust systems?
If you are waiting for the quantity available 0's to turn to + anything...you may be waiting a VERY long time. Example: we recently received 50 on a hot-selling Penta-Carbon exhaust. By the time they arrived, 55 were already on order (backorder), so the first 50 to order received systems and the remaining five have to wait for another order, (which takes at least 8-12 weeks). So 50 pipes went out the door and the numbers in the store never changed from 0. If you want one, you need to place your order and wait (sorry). Our system ONLY knows first in/first out. It's a crazy time in our industry right now and we expect it to be this way well into 2021.
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Welcome aboard!
Great video!!
Thanks for the best of the best .
I could be late on this, but... You’d make the internet go crazy with entries if you did a bike build giveaway.
I’d enter for sure!
Wish we had the time.
@@BrockDavidson I totally understand that!
Have you ever tried moving the rear speed sensor to the front or vice versa? That way both sensors are reading the same ring.
Yes. As long as you are not interested in any of the safety features functioning correctly - it's a great way to get rid of your dash light.
Brock - firstly great video, question - why wouldnt you use woolich flash instead of a piggy back dyno jet
There is no Wollich flash for this bike.
That's a ton of power for a naked bike.
Wait until we are finished ;)
@@BrockDavidson yeah I'm sure it's going too be pretty nasty.
Update went 2 teeth smaller 46 > 44 on rear sprocket and went from 169 mph to 176.
Will try 43 t , next. Very steady at speed , even with no steering dampener.
Gearing didn't make my inst go crazy and throw code like my 400 Ninja.
Today's run: czcams.com/video/1stxbAhMxoE/video.html
So what did you do... make the afr 13.6 on a boosted engine...that should blow up nicely!
My goodness, I really suggest you look at your tuning and understand air fuel ratios with forced induction..
I suggest you actually watch the video...
Newb question. @brockdavidson For tuning a bike like this, or any torque rich bike that has 6 axis imu, can you take acct > lean angle = < throttle open position? 100% throttle on any h2 at 4k rpm may be a bit too much for mortals 😎
The fuel tuning is 100% seperate from rider controls. Example: proper AFR is proper AFR, regardless of if you have all rider controls turned off, or you are in rain mode with TC maxxed out where even an H2 won't spin the tire in a gravel parking lot. I can tell you that a bone stock H2 with the KTRC turned off will scratch up the back of your helmet quicker than you can say "what just happened?!"
Brock you rock 💜
Hey brock, love your work as always. what's stopping it from making it as much power as a h2?
The heavily restricted ECU. Until we can derestrict, power gains will remain similar to a normally aspirated engine.
@@BrockDavidson Oh damn, i thought you guys managed to crack it in this video.. Ah well. i still look forward to when you guys do! Much love from down under brother, keep up the awesome work :)
All the technical information was awesome BUT, damn i can't wait till you get that steering damper in production. Is there a pre order?
We should have them on our site for preorder in a week or so.
@@BrockDavidson oh hell yeah, thank you sir
Amazing work as always! 👏
👨👩👧❤ 🖥 Brock's
Thanks again!
I'm confused Brock haha, if i JUST put a slip on on , leave the stock air filter with no tune will my bike throw up codes on the dash and stop? or will the slip on be safe and not do any damage?
Not sure as we would not test such a combination on a super charged bike.
Hi Brock, does the bike need the servo buddy if its just the slip-on and not the full system?
Full - as long as the stock EXUP is in place and functioning with the slip-on.
My dream bike 😍
Why tune forced induction to 13.8 or whatever? Generally 12.5 is a good rule of thumb, at least in my experience
The supercharged kaws respond like normally aspirated bikes on the dyno...so lean is mean. Unfortunately, some dyno operators don't realize how mean leanness can be to the engine...
@@BrockDavidson the Kawasaki does not respond like a normally aspirated engine. I’ve used a knock link on a H2. These things knock on Australian pump 98 octane which is the same as your 93 when the afr is leaner than 12.5 and especially if your pushing timing. 13.6 is crazy especially with how high the IATs are, I wouldn’t even tune any NA bike that lean, unless your afr probe is actually incorrect and showing leaner falsely. Why would you stress an engine out that much for what 2 hp or so.
As you know, bike motors are tough but after a while the motor will only take so much heat and detonation before something goes wrong. I would really advise on a decent knock unit when tuning these in the future.
It almost looks like its fueling for TPS input (hand), but the ecu is changing "only" the throttle angle behind everyones back 🤔🤔
Welcome to today's bikes. It's almost impossible to find one that doesn't work this way these days.
@@BrockDavidson unfortunately.. and they havent figured out how to standardize anything for longer than a specific model's run, real PITA trying find the plug-ins and trying to service them.
@@crash5811 agreed!
Would anyone out there pick a ktm superduke or a Ducati streetfighter over this and why??
Awesome as always, does this engine have the potential to go above 200hp?
Yes
do you know if the euro bike is less restricted (like the gsxr 1000 and the 2020 s1000rr) ?
If anything euro bikes are more restricted.
Does the ram air change any perimeters being variable at changing speeds?
Great question. Is it really "ram air" in a supercharged application? Or simply improved intake filling ability? I can tell you that our Ninja H2 data logging in LSR shows the AFR becomes consistently leaner as the bike gains speed, but the ECU does not compensate for this. That's a major reason we also install a PCV on any supercharged Kaw that we race, so we can control the AFR ourselves.
Hi !! Me again . I have purchased the PCV from you and was eventually installed yesterday ... I for the life of me cannot remember if it had the map already installed. Also does the rider mode need to be set in a certain setting ie - Rider or Sport or Road ?? Sorry but hope you can help me
Stay away from rider mode. Road Mode is least aggressive, start there and then move up to Sport Mode once you are comfortable. There will be a white, hand written tag on the back of your PCV if we installed a map. You will need a laptop and the Dynojet PCV software to confirm it is the correct map for your application. DO NOT run the stock map in a flashed ECU as severe engine damage can quickly occur.
@@BrockDavidson Thanks for the reply! I rode it in sport and it really didn't feel much different , I will double check the bottom of the PCV and go from there. Thanks again for the advice.. 👍
@Andy Coles, remember your bikes new life STARTS at 10,000 RPM. Under that...its still a kitten.
@@BrockDavidson 10K ???? Blimey , Not taken it that high B4 but, Its got to be done .. Thanks again fella ..
So what is your usual target afr in tuning for most power? 13.0? I’ve heard of some coming down to 12.9 or even 12.8
For cruising, we shoot for around 13.2-1 on the H2’s and WOT 12.8-1 for drag and 12.0-1 for LSR. These reference numbers assume a 5 wire sensor is placed directly into the exhaust bung in our pipe.
Why don’t they just put a throttle cable on it aswell so you can keep it forced fully open ?
Since the throttle blades are constantly monitored, as soon as they are in a position that the ECU did not request - the bike will throw codes and go into limp mode.
@3:08 Letting the state take care about clean air is like setting a thief to catch a thief.
Hey Brock, will you make a steering damper for the H2 SxSe too?
blog.brocksperformance.com/product-request/
Hi Brock. I was about to check out my cart last week in your web site i was about to buy the complete kit for extended swing arm for my Z H2, I did not proceed because there was no ready available extended brake line kit from Spiegler. Your Sales staff Steve Sex knows this. I forwarded my communication with Spiegler to Steve. Please give me update on this. Thank you very much.
The 2020 Kawasaki Z H2 6" over rear brake line (to match our extensions) Spiegler part number is: S-KA0428 ask for Brian when you call 937-291-1735.
Thank you very much brock!
Brock i am so happy and sad...
Happy because your sprint filter and pcv is already here but the brocks penta carbon exhaust and other performance parts are "still awaiting fulfillment" (ordered 05/03/21) I still cannot install the pcv on my bike because the pcv according to you is pretuned and matches your penta exhaust 😥😢😭. Please tell Steve and Karissa to expedite my orders i am proudly advertising your products here in Ph via CZcams Brock. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎💖💗💛💞💕💟
Hi Brock, will you please help me expedite my orders from you? Still "WAITING FULFILLMENT" for more than two months now ( order ending 982).. My project bike Z H2 is pending at this moment. I cannot install the Dynojet PCV without your PENTA CARBON exhaust... ( Brock, can i install your PCV now using other brand of exhaust for the meantime? SPRINT FILTER ALREADY INSTALLED). Hope to hear from you soon THANK YOU! 🥰😍🤩😇
Hello TITO, what you are going through sucks and we feel for you. Unfortunately, it's a sign of the times that will take a while to get sorted. All we can ask of you is to have a bit more patience. Please use the blue support button at the bottom right at Brock's performance.com. Type in "where is my order" and it will guide you to our best estimate on the actual ship date.
Thank you so much Brock. You are my Angel in building my litle monster zh2. I can now run 290kph just the sprinter upgrade alone. I am keeping these Brock'$ Performance upgrades a secret in my youtube channel lol😇
I want to see it cross 250hp 😎😎
Sprint doesn't have filter for zh2 on thier site...
They will be available for pre order on our site soon: brocksperformance.com/air-filters/kawasaki/
Blimey Kawasaki! Why'd you make that ECU so doggone high security?!
california...
@@BrockDavidson Yeah, good ol' CARB bureaucrats. Newsom has a lot more shenanigans in mind, than CARB.
Não se usa fator de correção em motores superalimentados.
Um fator de correção é usado em qualquer / todos os resultados do dinamômetro...
@@BrockDavidson De motores aspirados.
essa moto não tem ECU desbloqueada ainda nao, pelo que entendi, mesmo com power comander se ele fizesse alguma alteração na mistura e no ponto de ignição, a injeção altomaticamento não permitiria, iria ficar corrigindo a alteração no combustivel para mais ou menos, e acima de 9 mil rpm o acelerador ele vai se fechando até uma certa porcentagem, com o acelerador desbloqueado 101% essa moto tem potencial para mais de 240HP de roda, 260HP com combustivel de "corrida" igual a H2SX, ambos tem o mesmo motor taxa de compressão etc, sem alterar em nada nas engrenagens do supecharger, um monstrinho de Naked, deve ser o maximo andar com essa moto, potencia o tempo inteiro sem lag, show.
Does this mean you’ll have your slash cut full exhausts available?!
Yeessir, black slashcut with green logo plate looks sick af!
@@BrockDavidson duuuddeeee!! Let me be the first to order up! Only I want all polished / h2r look ;)
We will have them mid December. Watch our store and place your order, even if they show no inventory. Our system automatically puts you in line and its first come first serve.
@@BrockDavidson SMASHING that refresh button!! Waiting for them to populate!
@@BrockDavidson can you put them up on the website so we can get in on some “Black Friday” deals?! I’ve been checking 2-3 times a day for this system to go live!! Lololol
Where did you found the sprint filter for the zh2?!
It's a prototype we are testing for them. Production versions will be here soon...watch our store.
@@BrockDavidson I’m still waiting you full line exhaust already paid in July :D
I’m waiting Woolich too for an interface.
Greeting from Rome
slammed like ;)
But everyone says this bike is 200 hp?
Lol, not in the US...and certainly not on our Dyno.
This guy reminds me of Paul Giamatt so much. Sure you're not related 😂🤣🤔
Why does this bike have to go any faster. Nobody on this planet can ride it to it's full potential as a standard bike on the road anyway. Bragging rights maybe only
Haven't fast motorcycles always been about bragging rights? ;)
I don't understand this shit I wish I did all these numbers and stuff...
@15:37 You Muricans are so privileged. In "krauts" country it isn't even legal to use a powercommander in the roads.
Too long I had to skip through
Lol.. Nobody cares