Sleep Apnea Tips for a Better Night's Sleep #1 - Chin Strap - Thousand Oaks
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- www.SleepMD4U.com -- In this video, Dr. Popper shows how to make an alternative to commercially available chin straps for patients who may be using Provent Therapy or a CPAP mask for obstructive sleep apnea.
If you're using Provent Therapy for Obstructive Sleep Apnea, or a CPAP device, but are having minimal success because you still sleep with your mouth open, the demonstration in this video can help. Dr. Popper demonstrates how to make a better chin strap than the ones you can buy, and explains why your "home made" chin strap should be more effective in preventing snoring, making your sleep apnea solution perform better.
Dr. Ronald A. Popper is a Board Certified sleep specialist and the Medical Director of the Southern California Pulmonary and Sleep Disorders Medical Center in Thousand Oaks, California, a four bed, state of the art, fully accredited sleep disorders center located at 2230 Lynn Road, Suite 101 in Thousand Oaks.
Southern California Pulmonary also serves the communities of Westlake Village, Malibu, Agoura, Camarillo, Newbury Park, and Simi Valley, as well as surrounding areas.
You can reach Dr. Popper at (805) 557-9930 with any questions you have regarding diagnosis and treatment of all sleep disorders, including obstructive sleep apnea, restless limb syndrome, insomnia, and others. You may also visit his website for more information: www.SleepMD4U.com
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I added a strip of Velcro around the back of my head as well because it was sliding off the front while I was sleeping. I have not slept this well in at LEAST 4 years. I sleep all night, maybe waking one time for just a few minutes but I'm too tired to do anything but go back to sleep. This has seriously saved me! I cannot remember the last time I felt this good when I woke up. No more headaches or paste mouth! Thank you so much!!
What do you mean, Christina? Where and how exactly is the Velcro placed, and what is its function? *What* is it keeping from sliding--the cap, or the other Velcro or what?
Peg, I just put a piece around the back just like the video explains to do with the front and the cap stays on all night and does not slid around. I hope that helps :)
No, I'm still confused about what you're doing. He's got 2 small strips of Velcro on the sides of the cap and a longer strip of Velcro under his chin that attaches to those side strips. I don't know how a piece of Velcro around the back of the cap, either lengthwise or width-wise, would help, unless you're Velcro-ing the back of your head to a pillow ;-). Did you mean to say you put two more small pieces of Velcro *inside* the cap, directly underneath the strips on the sides, and you have a second longer strip as a second chin strap, so you're wearing two chin straps, one attaching inside, one outside? If you literally mean you've got a piece of Velcro around the back of the cap, on the outside, what the heck is attaching to it? Or if you mean you've got the strip inside but no second chin strap, how is that helping keep the cap on? Because of the friction of the Velcro against your hair (not that I can see that actually helping)?
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@Christina Burgess do you use cpap as well?
Thank you Dr. Popper, this is the best idea I seen. I've been using it for 3 months now and it works great!!!
Thank you. All the ones I've been able to find start in front of the chin, pushing it back. I don't want to (painfully) realign my jaw, just keep it closed. I've been making my own using a headband. I sew a loop across the back to keep it from sliding off. It works very well for a week or two but then they stretch out. This looks like a great, permanent version of that.
### 10 years later and I am just finding this now as I searched for "sleep apnea chin strap" with it being at the top of the search. This looks like an absolutely revolutionary idea and just by looking at this I am already sure that it will work flawlessly. Thank you so much, Doctor for sharing this. My only concern is what my hair will look like in the morning. I guess a shower will fix that. Is it a wives tale that constantly wearing a baseball cap makes you go prematurely bald.?? I am definitely giving this a "like"
thanks for the brilliant ideas..
Thankyou sir....this is the only problem I am having is mouth opening at times when using my cpap machine.
Excellent ...I have been plotting solutions for a while and this is the best/ simplest ...thankyou
This is a great idea!!!
thank your so much doctor, i' ll try this method.
Good vid, but i can't find that kind of velcro, do anyone have a link where I can get it from?
Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for this video!
Dr. Popper, Thank you for your advice on making a non-slip chinstrap. Will try - your procative concern is appreciated
Dr. Ronald
This Idea seems quiet practical, I will definitely try it today itself,
Thank you, God Bless you !
Love it thanks 😊
Thank you for this. I had a huge issue with my jaw relaxing during the night, causing a mouth leak, and all chin straps on the market in my country are garbage. This idea worked great - im my case, I used a cap with mesh top so it's a bit less sweaty during the night. I recommend sewing the velcro straps instead of glue
I'm gonna try this.ty
Not sure about losing the backup of unconsciously being able to push away a strap that has some 'give' should there be an airway issue with the nose in the night. Good idea with the cap for anchoring it more for a bald head though, might try that bit.
that's the best tip I've seen on how to keep my mouth shut Sure beats a cervical collar I'm going to try this
I'm going to try this.
I have one of these. Different brand but it works though
I need a link to the velcro strip that's being used? Is it an adhesive?
thanks
Thanks
Why does it feel like air is going into my stomach when i use my cpap machine in the airplane as I am in an upright position?
That's a good idea
Is it comfortable or irritating . If it is then even if your lips open , it’s still providing some benefit than no strap . Also, I am assuming you can Velcro to the head heat of the mask? I’m going to try since I have some in my closet. It can easily be bought online, in any cvs type store, craft , Home Depot etc I’m just worried the material is too thick and will irritate the skin. I’m seeking the dojo mouthpieces that keep both upper and bottom teeth together but I have no idea where to start. I’ll try and see in a sporting food store or karate class in town this weekend. Did anyone see the guy selling his version for like 600$ online? Imagine
Could this not put pressure on the carotid if it got dislodged?
Thanks I bought at least 6 or more different chin straps and none work. I am definitely going to make that cap tonite 👍
Does this make it hard to put on CPAP mask?
This method is as effective as the Knightsbridge dual strap water polo cap which costs $45-$50. Chinstrap and tape here. Comfortable and safe (tape has a slit and is dogeared for easy removal).
Thanks..that is an awesome idea..my chin strap falls off EVERY night..this should work well
I am so excited; I can hardly wait to make one for myself. Also, the insurance companies charge horrible cost of their supplies because Medicare will pay (with me paying 20%) and our poor gov't gets stuck being ripped off, one more time. Bless
you!!! Also, believe me...the nasal "pillows" are so much better (and comfortable) than the bulky, AWFUL full face mask. I use the bi-pap machine, but the theory is the same.
I need to come see you from Woodland Hills
Oh my gosh! I had tongue cancer surgery and radiation that destroyed saliva glands. If I breathe thru my mouth it sets my mouth on fire. Used tape and worked great but some cheap silicone tape burned my lips so badly can’t do that anymore, so I’m going to do this! Thank you thank you
The problem I have is air comes out if my lips are not clamped together. Lips relax and aire puffs me up and out! What is the solution for that. I am new to CPAP and it is very awkward. I also have a problem with marks on my face from the CPAP mask nose piece even though it is soft pliable rubber.
JimmyCricket61258 Just read your comment about nasal congestion. My husband took steroids for years for really bad nasal/sinus congestion. Steroids were really hard on his nasal passages. While watching telly one afternoon, a doctor recommend the neti pot. Husband bought one, watched videos on how to do it PROPERLY (you must learn the right technique), and no more steroids or congestion. He does it morning and night, and he swears by it. I couldn't stand the feeling of the water up my nose, but if you're keen, look it up. Hope it helps.
if the neti pot is working give the navage neti machine a try works incredible and so much easier than the standard neti pops
I need help everyday my throat hurts more and more I even de a white spot today and my uvula is very hurts and mouth and mostly throat Dry during the day !
For anyone finding even the soft fuzzy side of the Velcro itchy and scratchy, I can highly recommend the tubular gauze meant to secure finger bandages. Mine is CVS brand and came in a rope 7/8" wide and 48" long and you can cut it to your desired length and slip it over the Velcro that touches your face. It's not really gauze though it called that, it's more of a smooth soft cotton. Someone else also mentioned cutting the toe out of a toddler sock.
I chose to use a men's stretchy cap from the hair care section at Walmart, called Dri Sweat, & it works, but I did find I needed to add velcro horizontally across the back under the occipital bone to keep the cap from sliding forward. Kind of like the first pancake batter you pour, that one's usually not a keeper. Now that I know what I'm doing, the 2nd try should have a better result. I have long hair & it's a problem when it gets stuck in exposed Velcro!
I don't use CPAP, I just used to tape my mouth to stop snoring & promote 100% nasal breathing,. It changed my life for the better, but I developed a horrible allergy to any and all tape adhesive.☹ So happy to find this video!
great idea, add a comfort sleeve to that chin strap and you got a winner, I make my own from real soft micro fiber type material, however, if you go to the infant clohes section of any store and buy some toodler socks, cut the toe out they work good as mask snuggies
Thanks doc! I will try that myself :-)
I'd like to try it.
Thanks for this tip. The ones I buy for $45 don't last long at all and slip off. I have been using Elastoplast to tape up the mouth but this resulted in real bad skin rash from the glue used on the tap.
Instead of using Elastoplast to tape up your mouth; buy a roll of 1 inch Johnson and Johnson paper tape from the pharmacy at Walmart. I use it. It works well.
Graham Millward
Since stop using tape all nasty rashes are gone. I now use a home-made chin strap (new pair of stretchy socks cut & sewn up)- works fine and trains my mouth to stay shut. ( I was using so called non-allergenic tape)
A full face mask solved the problem.
The way I wake up gasping I would be afraid to try it.
Will this work for someone that sleep on their side compared to their back?
+kyoo choe if you have not tried this yet, please do. It works great if you can handle having something on your head. It does work for side sleeping, I fall asleep on my back and then roll to my side. It helps me sleep like I have never before! LOVE IT!
Thank you very much for the free advice ....today I woke up and thought I was about to die...wasn't able to breath,,,not sure what it was....I am told that I snore like a lion when I sleep,,,not sure if I have sleep apnea...I am overweight and I think it plays a big part of my snoring....
Hallo mr. popper,...
What about your nose? the REASON WHY we mouth breathe in the first place... !!!!!!!
Air comes out if my lips unless they are taped together. Lips relax even when I use a chin strap. You can blow air out your mouth even while holding your chin closed. Is there a solution for this? Maybe a mouth piece?
I use chin strap and tape. Overkill?
Can anyone tell me where to get this non-stretchable velcro?
Joanns fabric store or possibly Michaels
I would like more information on thus as well
@@jeremytripp5492 Walmart in the crafting section, in case a year later you still haven't found it. 😉 Just bought 24" for $3.47 or something like that. Can search it online re: velcro roll.
What if you constantly struggle with nasal congestion?
Get a breathe rite
isnt that dangerous i mean what if your tongue muscles and throat collapses and is relaxing you wont be able to breathe while your sleeping...
Wouldn’t just the chin strap alone hold the jaw up so the tongue doesn’t fall back and cause the obstruction?
No
Dear Dr Popper. If I can suggest another approach to ensure nasal breathing during sleep. I have been using this myself since 1997. Wear 3M one inch micropore paper tape across the mouth. It is more comfortable that either a strap, cap or both.
Hey there, my tape always comes off or loosens as my jaw relaxes during sleep and I end up breathing through my mouth. Is there a certain way you tape it? Also with a beard it is hard to keep stuck on...
I tend to drool heavily when I’m asleep. Is drowning in your own saliva a possibility when using a chinstrap during your sleep?
Professionals have warned me that any method of securing my jaw that makes it impossible to breath through my mouth endangers me in the event that CPAP fails while I sleep. Is that true? I'm sceptical because it seems that would also mean full face masks are inherently dangerous.
What professionals? My therapist doesn't know as much about sleep apnea as I have researched myself.
I'm afraid, what if I start suffocating while asleep?
Excellent Video clip! Forgive me for butting in, I am interested in your initial thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Letochy Fast Apnea Plan (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a good one off product for getting rid of Sleep Apnea without the normal expense. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my close friend Aubrey after a lifetime of fighting got astronomical success with it.
I can't sleep more than four or five hours. I have been using a chin strap for years and it really doesn't help. I am still snoring and my airways get swollen. Prob need surgery to correct it but I am unemployed and my insurance won't cover it.
how are you now?
Or use a welders cap or "bikers" do-rag...
Interesting points ,if anyone else is searching for alternative sleep apnea treatments try Tarbetti Apnea Expert Tutor (do a search on google ) ? I've heard some unbelievable things about it and my friend got amazing success with it.
@@neomclic4365 This comment is just an advertisement for some "natural" sleep remedy crap involving neck & throat exercises that probably won't do much for anything severe enough to need a CPAP machine.
Seriously? Does anyone who wears a CPAP have controllable hair after a night "sleeping"? Matter of fact, my hair has gained a permanent bend where my strap sits and this is actually pretty common, but doesn't make for a great cut when your hair is short. It's always sticking out where my strap sits no matter what I do, and this is not uncommon.
I'm also an obligate nose-breather like a baby, so my mouth doesn't come open until I have no air moving through my nose ... but the nasal pillow migrates because I have no functional occipital ridge. The back of my head is flat, and more so, I have a child's large head, which means I can't get the right fit ... and I have NO idea why because children of all ages from birth to the official age of 9 should also gave CPAP options.
I got the small size, which is better, but the damn thing still won't stay in place, so I'm going to have to make something. I can see the benefit of having a velcro strap and my design will likely use that tool, but the ends of the straps are hard and frankly, itchy and uncomfortable. I'm allergic to nylon, officially by an allergist, so anything nylon is a no-go. Many strips of velcro or elastic are nylon. Also, I cannot find a ball cap that fits properly without having that annoying plastic adjustment in the back that I have to either sleep on or avoid. So, what then?
So, what say you to a solution for an adult with a child's large head, wearing a small headgear, that still slips easily because I have no functional occipital ridge, and the slippage wakes me often throughout the night ... so that I get NO reasonable sleep even when I'm wearing the CPAP and can breathe if the dang thing stayes in place?
This is dangerous. Sometimes my breathing gets stuffy and I tend to gasp for air. If this is in place I will not be able to breathe.
If you gasping for air, then you have sleep apnea, and that’s just as dangerous.
Hello there, have you considered Saladulux Method yet? Just simply do a search engine search. On there you will find a great suggestions about how exactly you can end your snoring problem safely. Why don't you give it a shot? maybe it will work for you too.
This comment is just an advertisement for some "natural" sleep remedy crap involving neck & throat exercises that probably won't do much for anything severe enough to need a CPAP machine.
Looks very uncomfortable
You gotta be kidding me
Totally Insane! One should AVOID the Southern California Pulmonary & Sleep Disorders Medical Center AT ALL COSTS. Your life depends on it!
Is this a fucking joke??? A hat holding in all the heat on your head.. Please tell me this ia not THE video!!!!
I know this is a very old video but I just had to comment I love this idea and will be making one as soon as I can because someone used this idea and is now selling a very similar version for an outrageous amount of money and I simply can not afford their price for such a simple and very cheap to manufacture product.