The most popular new yacht today? The Outremer 55 is a dream fast cat for bluewater liveaboards
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- Considering its size and €1.5m price, the sales numbers of the Outremer 55 are extraordinary. Toby Hodges gets a quick, enjoyable sail and gives a full tour
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8:22 Nice Vripack Doggersbank 66 Offshore Yacht in the background (blue hull)
Thank You for the in-depth action video.
Modern lines, spacious interior. Nice Cat!
I’ve been waiting for this. Beautiful boat.
Cracking review Toby, looks amazing
Thanks 👍
Fabulous boat, with speed and comfort ... its a true dream boat ... Thanks Toby for the awesome tour as usual.. Regards from Canada
Thank you for the kind words!
Amazing, and real nice sail config...
Wonderful cockpit area. Very smart indeed!
you are very smart too. Thank you. You are truly owsome
Another first rate video Toby. Keep it up sir.
Thank you!
Great film, Toby, as an ex charter cat skipper, I think it's the ULTIMATE crusing cat. I'm not the slightest bit jealous of you!! Bugger!
just stay ex and do us all a favour
Its success is quite expectable. The Outremer 55 is not just a fast boat but it's also provide such a high level of comfort. The island in the kitchen is just so brilliant that it combines a lot of functions together. I wouldn't be surprised if more high-end cat-manufacturers copy it in the future.
Was not loving the brand but the 55 really converted me into loving outremer, Its as if Gunboat and Leopard/Lagoon had a baby.
Been done already
It's a balance 526 copy through and through, but since that cat was such a game changer it seems like every brand will copy that design from now on, which is good for the consumer
@@datAero the only similarity is the vers helm, and even then the outremer has 2 helm stations either side while balance only has 1. Vers helm stations were not seen on balance first, they have been around on custom cats for years and years just like forward cockpit helm thats now found on kinetic, gunboat, broadblue rapier, marvin & menelli, chris white who is under the delusional impression that he did it first some 10 years ago while David de Villiers has designed a boat with that layout that has sailed across the world twice before chris even penned anything. Also the outremer looks much prettier while the balance look like it was literally assembled by left over scrap parts from all the south african cat builders.
Outremer has no appeal with these oversized vessels with an insane delivery time, expect to wait 4-5 years from purchase. I would rather go with a Nautitech 44 or 46 with just a slight performance/comfort reduction but with much better pricing.
Nice luxury cat, it even has disco lights on board! 😆😉
stunning boats - been following Cat Great Circle on their adventures - awesome
Outremer producing some remarkable after sales for them after that boat hit them.
I would set up my nav station like cat greatcircle ! The extra large screen can be seen easily in the cockpit !
Such a great yacht!
I do sail a Pogo 30 and hate catamarans but Outremer it’s amazing, it’s a dream boat 😍
whats wrong with cats
@@jasonhallam2644 they can't sail as close to the wind as monohulls or trimarans but I admit there are also many advantages.
Panama to NZ across the Pacific: 36 days Pogo 30, 33.5 days Outremer 55 P (Predictwind route planner) Not much in it really.
Amazing Cat! 👍
This cat would cut passage times in half compared to 99% of other cruisers. A game changer for sure. Outremer needs to ramp up production I think 💭
Why big the hurry?
To get ahead of weather/ storms ect...
@@andrewrlitster9966 or head into to it earlier.....
@@waterboy8999 why would you do that instead of slowing down? Especially on a boat that can outrun the storm so you have no reason to get caught in a weather system even if it’s coming towards you if you don’t want to?
@@Aron-ru5zk I didn't mean intentionally.
I love these videos but it’s basically window shopping. Would love to see more achievable craft too. (which for me would be a used paddle board) 😊
Look up Laser sailing!
Bravo! Beautiful! Homages! ⚡⚡⚡ JAR
Outremer made a brilliant marketing move when they partnered with the CZcamsrs Sailing La Vagabonde.
there was no partnership at all between LV and outremer. Riley and Elayna paid full price for that boat which they are now selling. this probably factored in hugely as to why they didn't upgrade with outremer. simply put, the french won't deal on their boats to YT'ers. the value proposition with outremer and other french makes to the consumer market is non-existent. there are much better boats out there for a lot less $'s.
It's true that they paid for LV2. From what Reilly has said, they negotiated a good price with Outremer but no more than that. What the company did was handle the financing in-house otherwise they could not have bought the boat. It was a great move by the company and its paid dividends. Outremer had been seen as performance but not comfortable. LV changed all that and they've sold a lot of hulls because of the deal.
@@guydoesstuff6562 you do not know what you are talking about.
i quite disagree, the lack of space and SVLV way of living on their 45 made zero sense and made me realize that i would rather steer clear of outremer, especially considering the french are supposedly design masters, that's until the 55 and cat great circle changed the whole perspective for the better. (also doesn't help that SVLV are moving onto a new boat soonish)
@@pred7949, i completely agree with you. the value proposition with outremer is poor, at best. SLV spent a LOT of money on their outremer probably thinking that it would suit them for many years, yet here they are pedaling that boat for a race boat from a different manufacturer. i can't quite figure the race boat thing out, but trust they are making good decisions for themselves. yeah, the french boats... if you're buying one, you must have deep pockets and don't care about cost.
BEAUTIFUL....
5:59. That is a sweet helm position though. And check out that lady in the back chilling on the park bench type seating in the middle of the ocean.
Love it
Great video Toby, always nice to see you and the boat sailing. Did no one like the tiller steering chair?, I kinda liked it. But the option, with the bench seat, that "standing seat" & the safe cabin steering. Is the way to go 👍🏼
Thanks Armed. And yes, I still love the tiller steering and bucket seats.... for quick fun periods on the helm. For ocean sailing the ability to steer from a protected/variety of positions would come into its own. Best, Toby
Agree. Quite spiffy! Well thought out. Sometimes I feel like the helmsman-cockpit areas of even cruising boats are the least creative and imaginative areas of otherwise great boats. I really liked the originality here…
@@yachtingworld I would like your thoughts as to why so many great boats simply don’t take it to this level - especially in long distance blue water cruising or racing yachts. Sometimes I think that a little less cramped space, a foot lock, and a well placed winch - is as far as most manufacturers think of taking it. This manufacturer shows that in fact more CAN be done…
@@yachtingworld yes. best. you is owsome
Great Machine Tobey but I still think I'd stay Mono. Thank you!⛵👍
Thanks 👍
thank slv for the sales figures, plenty of fast cats on the market rn
Dream boat.
Great video, remembering what it was like from our circumnavigation in the 1980s, presently cruising the Bahamas. My wife's book is a good read, published by Austin Macauley of New York, literally a fictional story of sailing and adventure: "Seychelle and the Cannabis Yachties". It is very entertaining, hoping you will give it a read.
I just ordered your wife’s book from Amazon!
@@user-pe6hh4rp6c Thanks! Please leave a review when you finish.
Take a great boat mix it with a dream 'Sailing La Vagabonde' and you have a winner 😃
I’ll take a Garcia 52 or Amel 50. 🙏
@2:48 The Lagoon 55 & the Outremer 55 - the two most popular Catamarans today (per Yachting World Lagoon hasn’t started full production yet on the 55 but 50 of them have already been ordered).
I don't think that's any comparison. The outremer is on another plane of existence to Lagoon.
@@adammallerman8153 I wasn’t comparing them I was just stating that the two best selling large catamarans today are both sailing next to each other & considering one of them isn’t in full production yet is incredible.
@@adammallerman8153 You are right. This boat has no luxury aspect. It´s more for thoose who like to get there first and then quickly move on.
I’ll have one thanks 🙏
Very challenging to find any fault with this new Outremer model, so much more livability than the 5X. It’s no wonder they are sold out until 2026!
I think the channel Sailing La Vagabonde had somethig to do with the huge order book.
Question from a newbie: is there any reason why manufacturers don’t install quality cameras on all the corners of the vessel so everything could be monitored at a glance on the 4k screen?
Upselling addons. They charge extra for those.
damn it's perfect cat
...very nice ...I'm surprised the main cabin front screen isn't raked? ...it must create some resistant by catching wind?
Perhaps, but benefit of reduced glare to interior while having surround views and the opening windows for ventilation would more than offset that for cruising?
Cabin aerodynamics reprints a very small factor in winds under thirty knots. The mast is the biggest offender!
Don't forget the HELM now the same as the Versa Helm pioneered by Balance Catamarans. A Great Addition to Outremer
i want one
I'd consider one if they were available.
Please review the ORC 57 & one of the Balance cats if you get the opportunity.
Thanks 👍
Absolutely - very keen to do both. And look forward to seeing them at the multihull show in La Grande Motte next month. Toby
@@yachtingworld This is my 'show business' name btw. Tragically, my show business career never managed to get off the ground. Still a mystery to me to this day.
You are the best. Love your videos. I want a performance 70" trimaran. An idea ? Architect, shipyard...
Merci beaucoup👍
Thank you! Maybe try either Rapido (they do a 60 anyway). Banuls or McConaghy may do a custom one though. Good luck! Toby
@@yachtingworld Banks ix a good idea. Ihave the opportunity for Allure 5x....
@@theskipper9637 Contact Nigel Irens or Devilliers of New Zealand.
15 knots of wind, 15 knots of boat speed....
Damn!!! value for money
Love the Ukranian colour cushions on the first bunk shown 💪
Toby,,Please do a review on a new Balance 526!
No mention of security systems. Yachts are often soft targets in certain parts of the world. Smart security needs to become a priority.
Don't really want big money for much. Don't want a huge house. Don't need a Lambo, or to flex a Rolex. But it sure would be fun to sail a fast cat on a long long cruise.
A cool toy for sure.
Great sailing vessel but i prefer Gun Boat !!
Why are the helm stations exposed? Why don't they have built in, solid Biminis with plexiglass windscreen covers?
With the wheel outboard, it appears the helmsman's head is higher than the boom. You are going to stand on watch during a 20 day passage? The interior looks rather small for a 55 footer. This boat sails well though. Can't argue with that.
Put me down for one
Wonder how the bulkheads were constructed compare to lagoon 450
Carbon , foam and vinyl ester composite I think, defo better than three pieces of marine plywood with some e glass taped to the joint with polyester
Nice, but I’ll stick with monohulls.
Just seen this so not sure if anybody still responds but in case they do, here is a long question.
Any sail boat doing 12-15 knots requires attention from the crew, at those speeds things can go wrong quickly even in benign conditions, most bluewater sailors steer by autopilot for long parts of the day especially when short handing. The temptation with a boat like this would be to passage plan at 10 knots or more and expect to achieve it; what is the safe maximum speed to assume with minimal crew intervention ie under auto pilot and are there safety devices that for example will dump the traveler if the angle of heal exceeds X.
Yes I think you could passage plan at 10 knots on this. And yes, the system a lot of racing multihull sailors use is called UpsideUp - and can dump the main, traveller, headsail sheet etc at given heel angles/loads
@@yachtingworld Thanks for the reply, I am not a bluewater sailor but I have chartered a FP 40 20 years ago which was a revelation compared to the monohulls I had sailed prior to that. We did try to get one of the hulls out of the water but could only do this with the assistance of waves and we hit a maximum boat speed of about 12 knots on a reach. I had never heard of Upside Up but have just googled it and it looks good but its in the range of £12K.
I don't know enough about cats to know whether a FP40 at 12 knots is inherently more or less stable than an Outremer 57 or a Gunboat at 15-17 knots; but I would be interested to read articles that discussed this and similar issues on monohulls.
Upside Up is also specified for monohulls and I can see why; Code zeros have revolutionised light airs sailing for me but are a concern with sudden squalls especially as I only sail as a couple these days or with older/ novice guests.
So long way round but I would welcome an article or series of articles on how to sail cruising boats fast but safely .
Regards Steve
Layout of the catamarans are really appealing compared to in-cave living in most monohulls, but that flap-flap sailing and blue water safety are issues...
They can be made to never sink vs monohull so safety department is better than monos already
Anyone remember Nexus by Silva?
They are beautiful but could be better. If the headsails we're keeled and the main was keeled relative to the sail area with blades she would sail faster with more secure rudder control. 2 to one or better for seaworthy rudder control and normal sail power.
A wider stance to 45 degrees or better mid mast is approaching catamaran speed. Cleopatra's barge was 67 degrees at midmast.
The only way monohulls can catch up is by using cantilevered keels or hydrofoils!
only 1.5 knot of difference? wtf! the price tag is quite different from a lagoon
Good question... Carbon rotating wing mast, carbon high tech sails, expensive daggerboards and all it can do is creep past a floating apartment block!
Is there a Yacht at the back like the Outremer 55 and at the front like the Bali 5.4?
I'm a total sailing noob (well, I did spend much of my youth out on our lakes on my dinghy) and I'm interested in this fast sailing multihull category: Which is faster, these or Neel trimarans? Is the 'sportiness' of both in terms of rigging and overall philosophy similar?
I guess for someone who appreciates more cabins than 4 then Outremer's philosophy is not exactly what I'm looking for...but is there a big difference in speed or does Outremer's more uncompromising sportiness end up with similar speed to Neel's trimaran configuration?
Not sure about the Neel, but I think the Marsaudon cats are faster. Cheaper too, but you sacrifice comfort and luxury.
How do these compare to HH?
Do something about that sound already. Most of your videos have this problem. Strange problem, considering that other marine videos have normal sound, despite being also on a boat and in the wind.
Not sure which is better - Outremer or Balance - Internal space and helm position seems to be better on Balance
Agreed. I like the more “utilitarian” design of the Balance too.
Build quality!........ Balance are several leagues above imo.
@@leobard7767 not sure how you can be several leagues above Outremer, their finish is top class, not at all similar to production cats
@@bernardlanguillier7970 As a design engineer, I have experience with both. It's a Renault vs Mercedes comparison imHo. Their finish may be great, but the inherent structural and component quality standards are questionable at best, considering the price tag. We'll see within the next decade or so, what the resale value of the two are, by comparison. The market may be slow to realize build quality, but it its not stupid. Just compare how robust the steering gear is between the two. It perfectly illustrates the point. Why does La Vaga want to sell so soon? Light cats get thrown around in rough seas, even more than heavier boats and the forces between the hulls are far higher, especially when one considers the higher speeds. Are the Lagoon bhead issues forgivable by those lost at sea? One doesn't mess with the Ocean and there is such a thing as a minimum.
@@leobard7767 Appreciate that point!
I wouldn't be seen dead in a catamaran costing a measly €1.5m and the size of a tupperware dish.
I see Matthieu is keeping an eye on you, there, Toby?
Actually he was busy trying to launch drones and take video footage for most of it - always enthusiastic!
@@yachtingworld He loves his gadgets!
friend, turn on the Russian subtitles, and everyone else too, not everyone knows English; subtitles are needed in order to watch videos on TV)
Toby, question: If you had to choose between a million dollar Outremer or a million dollar Swan which would you choose?
Good question (if indeed that would be enough to purchase their smallest boats!) - it would depend on where I wanted to sail and for how long
@@yachtingworld I appreciate your response to this question. I guess it would matter or come into play where and for how long you’d be out on either boat.
Debating between this and HH50.
A nice decision to have!
Any thoughts about the Rapido 60 or the Bañuls 53 tri?
Me too
Has to be the best choice of helm position of any cat.
This would have been a better option for Lavaga.
When there are really high waves and wind, I find it uncomfortable with catamarans.
what are the statistics on catamarans capsizing? if you look it up you would know your worries are unfounded.
It would be really nice to sit down and have a chat with Toby sometime and pick his brain. I wonder; which would he choose between this Outremer 55 or the Rapido 50 ... *(for blue water liveaboard)
There's obviously a big difference in volume/space between the two - and I'd want to sail the Rapido first! T
Another excellent video but marred by the poor quality sound.
Sorry about that
Nice when its 30+C, no rain and no sea sprey. Where is evolusjon.
Can't stop progress, if I had the money I'd have A beautiful Wooden yacht Built I n Australia or New Zealand, there craftsmanship is 1ST. class. You may I'm kinda old Fashioned see I Grew up With wooden sailing Boats, Some was as old as 50 - 75 almost 100 years when I check the age on Lloyd's Registrar. Every now and and again I spot and old Wooden yacht. If you Take care of your boat it Will TAKE Care of you. ☮️.
Is it just me or is it creaking a lot?? Anyhow, out of my league but a very nice boat!
My fam is in the cue, building starts this year! We are looking for the right partner just incase anyone comes across this and wants to pass along the mesage!
Did he say carbon fiber sail?
Toby, have a look at the numbers on the Seawind 1370, I think you will find similar results to the O55
I agree Shane - although the Seawind is a fair bit smaller and has yet to launch
@@yachtingworld true, though I was just about the results in boat numbers ordered.
Oh, and thanks for replying,appreciated.
I thought you meant sailing performance !
I am actively seeking sponsors to help me acquire one of these vessels. Landlocked my entire life. For the first time in my life at this very late age I only have to do for myself. I want to cross an ocean. Swim at the equator. See the islands scattered across the South Pacific. I only have a few short years left.
An American sailing familly have had one of these and sailed the world in it .... Its a red hull ..i cannot remember their channel name but they've had to stop as hes recently got the job as their CEO. Or Sales Officer 🙂
Indeed Clive - that is an older model, the Outremer 51. And Seth is now with HH Catamarans
@@yachtingworld
My bad as i couldnt find the channel i hadnt been able to check the make was HH.👍🏼
@@yachtingworld
Toby this might interest you .. it certainly makes sense to me.
czcams.com/video/owm0z-Hdt0w/video.html 👍🏼
Shame about the pwm flickering. Might cause an issue for some people
Agreed, and with apologies - It's one of those things you don't know is going to happen until you get back ashore and download the footage unfortunately
@@yachtingworld No I meant it's a shame the boat uses it. Isn't dc dimming a standard these days? I am sensitive with screens that have low flicker frequencie
@@johnny_123b this is the result of an interaction between leds and the camera, there is no flicking perceived when on board
@@bernardlanguillier7970 Low PWM frequency will be picked up by camera more and it might irritate eyes, even if you cant see it.
I have had the pleasure to make two crossings on an Outremer 51. What a fantastic machine! These boats so outshine most boats in their class. To compare the Outremer with any other of the commercially available cats is truly unfair- these boats are amazing ocean crossers.
Can someone name the boat at 12:08? Thx for answers
The tender is an ASTender BEACH 340.
www.ast-yachts.com
@@astyachts Many thanks for the answer. I meant the sailboat in the background. I probably didn't express myself properly, sorry. But congratulations on this great dinghy
Up yours
WADR, what's the point if you have to wait until 2026 for your boat?
You look like your having fun BUT not as much fun as when we saw you on the HH!
This has really upset me. This is where desire and lust is too strong and too far away. I really really love these boats Toby!
一艘雙體帆船要價超過四千萬台幣
A beautiful but flawed design. If the pontoon was wider and deeper between the mast and forestay. The leeward pontoon would not dunk and wash. The sails would have better keeling and bow would have better displacement.
Oh for crying out loud! Just say how many they built!!!! If I have to wait till 2025, it might mean they have 3 orders and facilities to only build 2 a year.
Can anybody give me good Bluewater cats under 450k? Preferably at least 40ft
New? Not many options at that price. Maybe a Seawind 1260 if you can get one (41ft). Otherwise you're looking at around 42-45ft from the big production yards (Lagoon, FP, Leopard, Nautitech, Excess etc). Or go second hand
Me for 2026!
Nice boat , but they can too fast for some people
No offence Boys and Girls.
Nice boat but I'll stick to 5X
Whatever they paid Sailing La Vagabonde… it was not nearly enough!!
Having the helms/controls out in the weather doesn't make any sense to me.
You can swing the wheel inboard and have total protection - in fact probably more so than any other cat!
3:55 Ugly chop? That's a regular day on a midsized lake. Be serious.
Also, for a CRUISER, not a RACER, with a price tag of Euro 1.5 million, why are the helm stations completely exposed? For that price, shouldn't the dodgers, biminis and curtains be included? That is an issue of mine on most sailboats, regardless of the number of hulls. And, I do not want to hear any nonsense about how the wheels tilt down into the cockpit. The helmsman is still exposed to the weather without biminis dodgers and curtains and needs to access the winches on the cabin top. Additionally, the helmsman's view from the cockpit is very limited, especially at night, in spite of your opinion at 6:11. Of course, the boat has radar and fortunately for sailors everywhere electrical/electronic systems never fail on a sailboat, especially when you need them. And speaking of sailing at night, if the boat is going downwind in robust conditions and the helmsman is down in the cockpit and the glass sliders to the main salon are closed, can the helmsman see through the glass sliders and through the forward cabin ports if any lights inside the saloon are illuminated? No glare? Did you test that? Bet not. So, the better, safer, useable option would be to make the exterior helm stations robust, weather and temperature tight because, that is where you want to steer this boat.
A 55 foot long cat is big and wide for a personal boat, but it is not big and wide in terms of the ocean, wind and waves and things. So why are the cabinet and countertop corners quite pointy?
7:06 Wait a minute. This being a fast family cruiser and all, but not a six adult male crewed racing boat, do you seriously expect my 16 year old daughter (or me or my wife) to spend the majority of our watches standing at the helm stations, because there are no seats? This is cruising? And, those benches are not helm seats. They are outboard stern seats.
4:05 & 8:29 Wait a second minute. What is the clearance of the boom over the bimini/cabin top? It looks to me about 18 to 20 inches. So, apparently there is insufficient clearance to install a dodger and bimini over the helm stations. Does this boat come with football helmets for the people at the helms?
Ok, perhaps I have misidentified the boat. It is a racer, not a cruiser. Sorry.
Many of your points are addressed on the video we did on the smaller sister Outremer 52, including what it's like to sail from the cockpit, with bimini protection rigged, at night, helm seat comfort etc. Definitely a cruising yacht not a racer - even if this particular 55 is spec'd for high performance
Seawind buyers are waiting 3 years for their boats and the sell quickly on the used market and their are over a thousand Gemini catamarans so I dispute your claim that the outremer is the most successful
He did say "high end performance blue water cruisering" and I'm guessing Outremer's production capacity is greater than Seawind... either way they're really successful.
@Tom Riley It is. Like Seawind has 84 orders, for the same cat, as Ruby Rose has bought. Their production was setup to build 6 cats the first year, then 12 cats a year. But they are trying to get more people + factory space.
So if you have ordered hull nr 59, you won't know when you get the boat. Got the info from an interview between multihull central and Shane, from Seawind.
Just imagine how amazing it would be, there you are, 10 knots with the wind in your hair, then it starts raining, what wonderful protection you DON’T have.
Did you not see the part where you swing the helm pedestal inboard and stand under the hard bimini?
This is probably the best boat ever made.
?? Please tell why
Gunboat 68.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Yes but 5x more expensive.
@@basilroland I do think the GB 68 is better, but not 5x better. If I'm paying I'm getting the O 55, but I'd still be envious every time I saw a GB 68. If the price was 2x it would be a hard choice.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus yeah sorry i was not talking about the 5x. I was telling 5 time the price. The O55 is defenetly better than the 5X even if he his a bit less powerfull.
Nice looking boat, line management fail, fail and double fail. Its a mess.
I disagree, it's a owner choice to have all the extra packages on sail trim.
the lines in the front are for the "nice weather" sails (big genoa, code, asym), so no problem having them out of the coachroof.
the lines on the roof are for the 3D trim, and even as a casual racer, it's really usefull so again : owner choice